Nick's 2023 TMNT plans revealed

[CyberCubed]

You guys need to visit twitter sometime, this place is slow:

https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/1493709630840750086

https://twitter.com/paramountplus/status/1493707572972429315

The 2023 Seth Rogen CG movie will be followed up by direct-to-streaming movies about TMNT villains debuting on Paramount Plus. I assume from the same universe as the new film, but it's hard to tell based on wording.

No news on a new cartoon yet, but I get the feeling something based on the 2023 movie might happen especially if it's a hit.

[joe-eyeball]

especially if it's a hit.

So you’re saying a new cartoon isn’t likely?:D

[Andrew NDB]

So... Rogen's movie will have a bunch of different villains? Is that the takeaway here?

[The Deadman]

So we're getting a TMNT cinematic universe of sorts? I'm interested.

[TigerClaw]

So we're getting a TMNT cinematic universe of sorts? I'm interested.
Obviously Shredder would probably get his own movie on Paramount+, But which other TMNT villains they also can do? My money's on a Bebop and Rocksteady movie as well.

[The Deadman]

Obviously Shredder would probably get his own movie on Paramount+, But which other TMNT villains they also can do? My money's on a Bebop and Rocksteady movie as well.

Baxter Stockman, Krang and Dimension X etc.

[Galactus]

It's an interesting idea and conceptually some of TMNT's villains you could easily craft interesting stories around...but if this is going to be in the same continuity as Rogen's movie we'll have to wait and see what kinda tone that movie goes for. Like you could totally do a great in depth Mirage-based story about Oroku Saki's journey into becoming the Shredder...but if it's based on the Fred Wolf version were he's just a dick who pins Yoshi to the wall to get his position then I aint interested.

Then there's the bigger question of whether TMNT really has the popularity to have spin off characters. It's like Sony's insistence on making an adjacent Spider-Man universe when other than Venom no one is really interesting in Spider-Man villains on their own.

[NinjaPug]

Yeah that sounds like every big Fred Wolf villain will be in the Rogen movie and they’ll get their own follow-up movie

[Ninjinister]

So... Rogen's movie will have a bunch of different villains? Is that the takeaway here?

Based on the phrasing it might be that at least one/a few will be supplemental stories to characters that might not actually be in Rowe's movie but instead just mentioned/alluded to or even just not at all, like universe expansion.

seriously though why does everyone credit this movie and the last two to the producers despite the first four not having that distinction, let alone every other movie on the planet??

[Sumac]

15 years ago I'd be excited about possibility of TMNT multiverse...now, and especially with Rogen participation...thanks, but no thanks.

seriously though why does everyone credit this movie and the last two to the producers despite the first four not having that distinction, let alone every other movie on the planet??
Because, people think that producers lay a bigger role in creative decisions than directors, which might be the case, due to the potential profitability of the franchise.

[Chris]

So we’re getting the Rogen reboot/Next Chapter movie plus a series of villains films that may or may not be related to it. Presumably they are linked but it’s not clear from the wording. Shouldn’t be surprised, they still haven’t cleared up if Rogen’s film is a full on reboot or if “The Next Chapter” subtitle means it’s a MOTU:Revelation style loose sequel. Or even if “The Next Chapter” is the official subtitle.

On the plus side it will be nice to see some different villains getting movie focus and I get that animation takes time so this will allow them to have stuff in the pipeline but after the last 2 movies this is putting the cart before the horse. Let’s get a solid movie out first before we worry about universe building.

[TigerClaw]

Official concept art for the CGI movie has been released.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLrRWNDVgAAbffU?format=jpg&name=medium

[phillytmnt]

That is god awful if real. I’m confident that this movie could kill TMNT forever if it takes a goofy tone like that.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Please tell me that art is a joke.

[neatoman]

Official concept art for the CGI movie has been released.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLrRWNDVgAAbffU?format=jpg&name=medium

What the hell am I looking at?

[The Deadman]

Concept art isnt the same as the finished product, lets not forget that.

[Kyo Hisagi]

It... could be worse... but wth did they do to Donnie?!

[CyberCubed]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if one of the Turtles are gay in this version.

[sdp]

TMN villains aren't Batman villains, they can't carry a movie. I mean I'm curious to see how they handle it but perhaps the TMNT show up in all of them, I don't know it could be exciting. I think this is very ambitious and I don't think it'll pay off but I'm actually curious now.

As far as the turtles, they look like Kermit but it's only concept art, it'll look much different once it's all said and done. We always knew this was going to be aimed at kids. At least they seem to be doing something new so I'll give them props for that.

[CyberCubed]

Besides Don's glasses, the Turtles designs at least feel much more normal than they were in either the 2014 movies or Rise of the TMNT. No huge Hulk Turtles with human noses, and Rises' designs were very out there.

If they dropped Don's glasses I wouldn't mind these designs. Raph with a durag doesn't bother me.

[Jester]

seriously though why does everyone credit this movie and the last two to the producers despite the first four not having that distinction, let alone every other movie on the planet??
Because people know who Seth Rogan (and earlier Michael Bay) is. I had to look up Jeff Rowe.
Though the fact he worked on Gravity Falls gives me a bit of hope.

[TigerClaw]

Nickelodeon has clarified that the TMNT movies about the villains isn't related to the CGI movie, Looks like its gonna be its own thing.
https://twitter.com/DailyNickNews/status/1493765602309066759
Nickelodeon has clarified that the villain #TMNT movies won't be related to Seth Rogen's upcoming animated reboot.

[sdp]

Ah ok, so this isn't as ambitious as I thought. I'm really curious to what they will do and what villains they'll choose, will they be like origin stories and the turtles will show up? Villains I can see carrying a movie by themselves would be Triceratons, Baxter Stockman,

[TigerClaw]

Ah ok, so this isn't as ambitious as I thought. I'm really curious to what they will do and what villains they'll choose, will they be like origin stories and the turtles will show up? Villains I can see carrying a movie by themselves would be Triceratons, Baxter Stockman,
They should look into the IDW comics where some of the TMNT villains had there own comic mini series.

[ProphetofGanja]

It's not a bad idea, it's literally just a setting and it's one ripe with many story possibilities

[Slash-Dash]

has the live action movie been canned?

[Zulithe]

I am digging the concept art. I’m tired of having negative feelings about newer TMNT stuff. So please make this good.

[Chris]

Nickelodeon has clarified that the TMNT movies about the villains isn't related to the CGI movie, Looks like its gonna be its own thing.
https://twitter.com/DailyNickNews/status/1493765602309066759

As much as I think it's too soon to worry about franchise building before seeing if the first movie is well received, the idea of unrelated villains movies is just bizarre.

I know they're just fodder to build Paramount+ content library, but Sony's Spider-Man villains universe without Spider-Man feels pretty pointless (is anyone really looking forward to Morbius?) and even Spidey's B-list villains are more well known than TMNT villains (outside of maybe Shredder, Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady). At least if they were connected it would feel like maybe there was some purpose to them.

[AquaParade]

Nickelodeon has clarified that the TMNT movies about the villains isn't related to the CGI movie, Looks like its gonna be its own thing.
https://twitter.com/DailyNickNews/status/1493765602309066759

That's somewhat promising from where I'm standing. The more shots we have, the better. Maybe this universe can be of a slightly different flavor that appeals to a different breed of fans.

[shredder orokusaki]

TMN villains aren't Batman villains, they can't carry a movie. I mean I'm curious to see how they handle it but perhaps the TMNT show up in all of them, I don't know it could be exciting. I think this is very ambitious and I don't think it'll pay off but I'm actually curious now.

As far as the turtles, they look like Kermit but it's only concept art, it'll look much different once it's all said and done. We always knew this was going to be aimed at kids. At least they seem to be doing something new so I'll give them props for that.
A movie about me will be the best movie ever made! Batman is nothing compared to me!

[neatoman]

You guys need to visit twitter sometime, this place is slow:

https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/1493709630840750086

https://twitter.com/paramountplus/status/1493707572972429315

The 2023 Seth Rogen CG movie will be followed up by direct-to-streaming movies about TMNT villains debuting on Paramount Plus. I assume from the same universe as the new film, but it's hard to tell based on wording.

No news on a new cartoon yet, but I get the feeling something based on the 2023 movie might happen especially if it's a hit.

Which villains? If it were up to me it would be:

Shredder
Karai
The Triceratons
The Purple Dragons
Rat King
Savanti Romero
Old Hob
Bishop


But let's face it, it's Viacom/Paramount, so it'll probably be:

Shredder
Krang
Bebop and Rocksteady
Tokka and Rahzar
Mutagen Man
Leatherhead (labelled as a villain)
Rat King
Karai (if we're lucky)


Obviously I'm hoping more for my list but... They are going to give Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady solo movies...

I am digging the concept art. I’m tired of having negative feelings about newer TMNT stuff. So please make this good.

Well, I always hope movies are better than I expect... I just don't expect much here...

I hope Mutant Town is adapted and the main setting for the movies.

Great idea, then general audiences can finally see how much ass it sucks!

[TigerClaw]

That's somewhat promising from where I'm standing. The more shots we have, the better. Maybe this universe can be of a slightly different flavor that appeals to a different breed of fans.
I see the potential of doing movies about the villains, which would lead up to a live action TMNT movie as a result.

While a movie about Shredder is the most obvious, They can also do a movie about Bebop and Rocksteady, How a pair of wannabee street thugs became a rhino and warthog.

These movies can work as interconnected stories.

[CyberCubed]

Also I doubt the movies based on the villains will be real full-length movies. They probably mean something like 40 minute specials at most. Obviously a villain isn't going to get an hour and a half movie, especially if they make multiple of them like they say they are.

[Chris]

I’d think they will be more around the hour to an hour and a half range personally. If they were only 40 minutes it would be a series of specials rather than movies.

[TigerClaw]

Remember that we are also getting a new live action TMNT movie that they announced about a year or so ago, And with the news of these villain movies, It will probably be related to that new live action movie.

[neatoman]

Remember that we are also getting a new live action TMNT movie that they announced about a year or so ago, And with the news of these villain movies, It will probably be related to that new live action movie.

Most of us think that has been canned in favor of this. It might not have been but... Well, TMNT ain't exactly Spider-Man. Sony may have 14 movies and a live-action TV show for Spider-Man but I doubt Paramount is willing to do the same for TMNT:

[Rooish]

Besides Don's glasses, the Turtles designs at least feel much more normal than they were in either the 2014 movies or Rise of the TMNT. No huge Hulk Turtles with human noses, and Rises' designs were very out there.

If they dropped Don's glasses I wouldn't mind these designs. Raph with a durag doesn't bother me.

Sigh. Yeah whatever about the do-rag, the Turtles have been drawn like that since the early days, but I would like to know what idiot behind the scenes insists on Don needing glasses and a bucktooth. I sort of feel like people who make kids' cartoons have a responsibility to not constantly reinforce stereotypes and rely on lazy tropes, but whatever.

It's not like it would be too incredibly trailblazing to have a smart character not have to fit into this one visual representation. I mean, if in the 90s they could make Rhinox look like this:
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I think we can handle a tech guy having some visual complexity.

[Leofan26]

Think if we complain they'll change the look like what happened with that Sonic film?

I like both but is it really that much harder to make turtles compared to a hedgehog?

I wish they'd already give us an release date for that Rise movie.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I am digging the concept art. I’m tired of having negative feelings about newer TMNT stuff. So please make this good.

Then, avoid all online discussions about upcoming TMNT stuff. The Internet has made it very easy for fans to break it all down just after one concept art image. This isn't the early 1990's when you just heard a movie was in production, and was exciting for months (maybe it was all a schoolyard rumour, sometimes you didn't know for sure until you read it).

[Slash-Dash]

is it safe to assume the live action movie has been scrapped?

[Andrew NDB]

is it safe to assume the live action movie has been scrapped?

It would've had to have taken on more substance than mere vague press releases from ages ago for it to be able to be considered "scrapped," methinks.

[AquaParade]

The thing about the tmnt is they need to be cool. As nebulous as that sounds and is, it's part of the appeal.
You surround the viewer with danger, and then they arrive to feel better like the coolest older brothers you never had.

Whenever they turn Michelangelo into the idiot, it's like a magnified version of the problem.

It's not that they have nothing to learn, it's just that there is an aura around them. You want to be around them. I think that's lost in most modern incarnations.

[Slash-Dash]

It would've had to have taken on more substance than mere vague press releases from ages ago for it to be able to be considered "scrapped," methinks.

hopefully.

[CyberCubed]

is it safe to assume the live action movie has been scrapped?

I thought they said Platinum Dunes and michael bay were making it again, but it was a reboot and not in continuity with the previous two movies.

[Leo656]

Remember that we are also getting a new live action TMNT movie that they announced about a year or so ago.

No we are not.

[TigerClaw]

No we are not.
Not for you. :P

[neatoman]

Not for you. :P

Why are you such a...

... Ugh, here is a list of what is happening and has happened:

Michael Bay announces a movie in which the Turtles were going to be aliens and it was going to come out in 2012.
This announcement received justified backlash and the project was given the new deadline of 2014 because an entirely new script had to be written.
2014 came and the movie produced by Bay's studio, Platinum Dunes, was released to mostly negative reviews and mediocre box office.
In 2016, a direct sequel came out and actually got a really bad box office performance.
In 2018, the plans for a third movie in this particular series officially got scrapped in favor of doing an unrelated live-action movie with the same producers.
Production was meant to start in 2019.
In 2020, this animated movie produced by Seth Rogen was announced.
In 2021, it was announced the script for the live-action movie was getting rewritten, meaning the production was about two years off schedule.
Now in 2022, concrete proof of the animated movie being in production has surfaced in the form of leaked concept art.
Along with this, we also got an announcement of movies starring other TMNT characters for the sake of experimentation.
The animated movie is still on schedule to be released in 2023.
The Live-action movie still don't have a scheduled release date.


If/when we get another Live-Action movie, it will be in 2024 at the earliest. At which point, the script from 2018 will most likely have been phased out. There is also the possibility that the project may have been quietly canned, possibly because it was headed by the same people who made two bad TMNT movies that performed poorly to begin with. Why they were trusted to head another TMNT project despite botching their previous attempts so poorly is a bit of a mystery but there may have been some contractual obligations going on behind the scenes. Now will we get another live-action TMNT movie in the near future, let's say that's between 2024 and 2032 just to give it a generous definition of near future? Sure, that seems reasonable. However, if Platinum Dunes, Michael Bay, Andrew Form, Brad Fuller and even the script they were working with are mostly (if not entirely) out of the picture, then it isn't exactly "that" particular project, is it?

Meanwhile, we do however have at least one film project that is alive and well, not to mention several other projects in the works. So if that is the case, why should we even assume the live-action project is still active?

[Leo656]

Why are you such a...

Pretty sure you can still say "f*cking delusional moron" on this forum.

The panel also would have accepted "Walking advertisement for the benefits of Eugenics".

And a lot of other things which, while true, are probably "too mean" but still need to be said.

[ProphetofGanja]

The thing about the tmnt is they need to be cool. As nebulous as that sounds and is, it's part of the appeal.
You surround the viewer with danger, and then they arrive to feel better like the coolest older brothers you never had.

Whenever they turn Michelangelo into the idiot, it's like a magnified version of the problem.

It's not that they have nothing to learn, it's just that there is an aura around them. You want to be around them. I think that's lost in most modern incarnations.

Fvckin' exactly, man

https://c.tenor.com/sym0G74VpCAAAAAC/rick-and-morty-this-guy-gets-it.gif

[AquaParade]

Fvckin' exactly, man

https://c.tenor.com/sym0G74VpCAAAAAC/rick-and-morty-this-guy-gets-it.gif

Takes one to know one, brother.

[King Kahn]

Why are you such a...

... Ugh, here is a list of what is happening and has happened:

Michael Bay announces a movie in which the Turtles were going to be aliens and it was going to come out in 2012.
This announcement received justified backlash and the project was given the new deadline of 2014 because an entirely new script had to be written.
2014 came and the movie produced by Bay's studio, Platinum Dunes, was released to mostly negative reviews and mediocre box office.
In 2016, a direct sequel came out and actually got a really bad box office performance.
In 2018, the plans for a third movie in this particular series officially got scrapped in favor of doing an unrelated live-action movie with the same producers.
Production was meant to start in 2019.
In 2020, this animated movie produced by Seth Rogen was announced.
In 2021, it was announced the script for the live-action movie was getting rewritten, meaning the production was about two years off schedule.
Now in 2022, concrete proof of the animated movie being in production has surfaced in the form of leaked concept art.
Along with this, we also got an announcement of movies starring other TMNT characters for the sake of experimentation.
The animated movie is still on schedule to be released in 2023.
The Live-action movie still don't have a scheduled release date.


If/when we get another Live-Action movie, it will be in 2024 at the earliest. At which point, the script from 2018 will most likely have been phased out. There is also the possibility that the project may have been quietly canned, possibly because it was headed by the same people who made two bad TMNT movies that performed poorly to begin with. Why they were trusted to head another TMNT project despite botching their previous attempts so poorly is a bit of a mystery but there may have been some contractual obligations going on behind the scenes. Now will we get another live-action TMNT movie in the near future, let's say that's between 2024 and 2032 just to give it a generous definition of near future? Sure, that seems reasonable. However, if Platinum Dunes, Michael Bay, Andrew Form, Brad Fuller and even the script they were working with are mostly (if not entirely) out of the picture, then it isn't exactly "that" particular project, is it?

Meanwhile, we do however have at least one film project that is alive and well, not to mention several other projects in the works. So if that is the case, why should we even assume the live-action project is still active?

They were well past being able to rewrite the script when the leak/backlash happened. I read the script when the leaks about them being aliens happened (spoilers they were supposed to be revealed as humanoid turtles from a dif world, not at all mutated hence the original title Ninja Turtles for the movie).

Then a week later I met Kevin Eastman and point blankly asked him about it since he was on record being positive about the film and candidly said "Yeah it isn't the greatest script but I don't own TMNT anymore". They had already filmed things and then had to recut the film, or where they could reshoot, to add in an actual Shredder instead of a Col Shraeder, etc. Oof that original script was horrible... so so many bad choices made.

[AquaParade]

Lot of interesting news regarding TMNT this week, huh? Seems part happy coincidence but also like Nick is making a push with the franchise.

New movie info and concept art, videogame updates, and tons of news regarding the figures, from Mezco to Neca.
Fun to see some discussion about TMNT around here.

None of the news this week has gotten me super excited, but some of it does appeal to me, so I'm happy about it. Also, the last ronin has sort of been my thing lately, so all in all, I can't complain too much about tmnt despite the franchise having more potential than is being utilized.

[Galactus]

They were well past being able to rewrite the script when the leak/backlash happened. I read the script when the leaks about them being aliens happened (spoilers they were supposed to be revealed as humanoid turtles from a dif world, not at all mutated hence the original title Ninja Turtles for the movie).

Then a week later I met Kevin Eastman and point blankly asked him about it since he was on record being positive about the film and candidly said "Yeah it isn't the greatest script but I don't own TMNT anymore". They had already filmed things and then had to recut the film, or where they could reshoot, to add in an actual Shredder instead of a Col Shraeder, etc. Oof that original script was horrible... so so many bad choices made.

It's nice to know that Kevin is much more candid when meeting fans in person.

To be fair to them most of The Blue Door script was thrown out of what would become the 2014 movie. There was only the turtles being captured by the Foot and dragged out of the sewers and escaping by sliding down a snowy mountain on their shells. That sequence of events was the first thing they ever decided about the movie, clearly they thought it was their big selling point and was going to be in the movie no matter what. Admittedly while there was some dumb stuff that sequence was genuinely well executed.

What gets me about that is it's not necessarily an un-TMNT thing to happen. Heck the turtles have slid down a snowy mountain on their shells in one previous iteration. You could have easily crafted a faithful movie around that sequence. You could make more of less remake the 1990 but instead of the extended character building in April's apartment and the farmhouse have the capture and mountain escape sequence instead. Not exactly what I want but it would have fine.

[King Kahn]

It's nice to know that Kevin is much more candid when meeting fans in person.

To be fair to them most of The Blue Door script was thrown out of what would become the 2014 movie. There was only the turtles being captured by the Foot and dragged out of the sewers and escaping by sliding down a snowy mountain on their shells. That sequence of events was the first thing they ever decided about the movie, clearly they thought it was their big selling point and was going to be in the movie no matter what. Admittedly while there was some dumb stuff that sequence was genuinely well executed.

What gets me about that is it's not necessarily an un-TMNT thing to happen. Heck the turtles have slid down a snowy mountain on their shells in one previous iteration. You could have easily crafted a faithful movie around that sequence. You could make more of less remake the 1990 but instead of the extended character building in April's apartment and the farmhouse have the capture and mountain escape sequence instead. Not exactly what I want but it would have fine.

A couple of drinks in him and he gets suuuper candid lol.


Yeah the mountain scene was genuinely fun but man. The movie surrounding it and the original movie surrounding it …. Woof.

Some links to the original “alien turtle” stuff and even where Eastman was given a large bag of cash to say “yeah I am on board. It’s gonna be awesome!” Of course he is gonna say that, if he doesn’t the money goes back.
https://toynewsi.com/index.php?blogid=1&archive=2012-03&catid=20

[ABrown]

Nickelodeon's 2023 TMNT plans:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71HFPX3TO3L._AC_UX522_.jpg

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[CyberCubed]

I'd buy that shirt if it weren't $25

[Turtle Soup]

I wish the OT was as cool as a lot of the artwork makes it look.

[neatoman]

I wish the OT was as cool as a lot of the artwork makes it look.

Yeah me too, it's pretty damn lame as it actually is.

[AquaParade]

I wish the OT was as cool as a lot of the artwork makes it look.

Or even the intro to the show. It's like Alex Ross cover art on a rushed 2022 Marvel comic.

[Turtle Soup]

I guess we've got those first 5 episodes.