Random TMNT thoughts.

[Turtle Soup]

I'm not sure if there's a thread like this. If there isn't, I'm gonna start one.
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I would be a stone cold killer for Shredder.

[Leo656]

Their tails kinda look like dicks.

/thread

[neatoman]

Their tails kinda look like dicks.

/thread

Fun fact!
Tails in males are designed for one purpose only, and that is to reproduce. The males have penises in their tails. It is located in the inner tail at the bottom. During the intercourse, the rest of the tail helps a male turtle hold its female in position.
https://urbanfishkeeping.com/do-turtles-have-tails/

[Turtle Soup]

I hate it when Mikey's nunchaku get drawn with really long chains/cord.

[Andrew NDB]

Their tails kinda look like dicks.

/thread

The way I used to see them drawn always reminded me more like compacted turds. Like, as if Michelin Man-ed into the concrete and then they stood up?

I hate it when Mikey's nunchaku get drawn with really long chains/cord.

There seems to be an ongoing misunderstanding about how nunchaku are supposed to function.

[Turtle Soup]

Whenever I eat pork rinds I end up quoting the movie at least once.

[Leo656]

Since FW April and 4Kids April aren't technically the same person, how weird would it be if they started making out? A little, a lot, or not at all?

[Turtle Soup]

Since FW April and 4Kids April aren't technically the same person, how weird would it be if they started making out? A little, a lot, or not at all?
I'm sure that can't be too hard to find on the internet. Once you find it, I bet it's not that weird.

[Leo656]

Oh I've seen it. I'm asking others what their impression of the moral/ethical dilemma inherent to the situation would be.

[Coola Yagami]

I mean, part of me would wanna see it cause I'm a perv and would gladly **** both while they're ****ing each other... but the fan part of me would be put off by the fact that neither have ever expressed any interest in women and suddenly, LESBIANS OUTTA NOWHERE.

It would also be interesting if there was some sort of reality warping or whatever, like the universe gets ****ed up if two versions of the same person from different realities have sex or something. Like someone has to stop them before they cum or all reality goes whack.


Irma would be disappointed her doppelganger is a robot though.

[Turtle Soup]

Is Mikey actually the best skateboarder?

[Turtle Soup]

Oh I've seen it. I'm asking others what their impression of the moral/ethical dilemma inherent to the situation would be.
Sex between two consenting adults does not present any moral/ethical dilemma.

[Turtle Soup]

I can't decide if I like round or square tsuba on Leo's katana better.

[IndigoErth]

Technically there is (https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59887&page=42) a thread like this, but has been buried for a while and had to use Google to dig it up. (Personally, I don't have an issue with a fresh start.)


Speaking of Leo's katanas, I will forever reject some people's insistence that they aren't actually katana based on a nitpic over simple art style choices sometimes having them straight. If the source of that art calls it a katana, then it's a katana... :tconfuse:


On the subject of his tsuba, I really want a replica of the one on his 2014 sword. (https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/i/8191396985429/2014/1/13969870219301/New-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-posters-highlight-each-turtles-weapon-of-choice.jpg)


edit: Acting all thirsty in here over cartoon characters. Don't make me go digging up and posting pics of 2016 Leo's tightly clothed, toned butt for you to enjoy to help balance that out. lol I'll do it dammit, I can make it awkward here too and not afraid to use it. :trazz:

[Turtle Soup]

Technically there is (https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59887&page=42) a thread like this, but has been buried for a while and had to use Google to dig it up. (Personally, I don't have an issue with a fresh start.)


Speaking of Leo's katanas, I will forever reject some people's insistence that they aren't actually katana based on a nitpic over simple art style choices sometimes having them straight. If the source of that art calls it a katana, then it's a katana... :tconfuse:


On the subject of his tsuba, I really want a replica of the one on his 2014 sword. (https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/i/8191396985429/2014/1/13969870219301/New-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-posters-highlight-each-turtles-weapon-of-choice.jpg)


edit: Acting all thirsty in here over cartoon characters. Don't make me go digging up and posting pics of 2016 Leo's tightly clothed, toned butt for you to enjoy to help balance that out. lol I'll do it dammit, I can make it awkward here too and not afraid to use it. :trazz:
A forum mod could merge these two threads, but I'm not sure I've ever seen any mods really do anything around here.

[Turtle Soup]

I don't think I've ever seen ninjas with elbow and knee pads outside of the TMNT.

[Leo656]

I can sort of see how some versions of Leo might be sexually attractive to some women but I don't see it with BayTurtles Leo at all.

My wife is very much attracted to 1990 movie Leo and 4Kids Leo and that I can actually kinda see. BayTurtles Leo, not so much.

[IndigoErth]

Eh, 2016 gave me a bit of a soft spot for him and I guess I came to see him a little better than previously. That version is like that guy who isn't too photogenic, but the right light and angles work out okay now and then.

Though I'm not sure if the following those Turtles do have is about that at all, or if it's mostly the other more...lets say live action "human coded"(?) assets? :tlol: I mean, there's the old "butterface" thing and not like it doesn't work with men and male characters too. Nice biceps look good in any color, no matter what the rest of the designs look like. lol

Now, 4Kids Leo is no contest, he'd probably win most votes in general and is a top fave for sure. :tcool: Though his profile and PD Leo's are very, very similar and I've wondered if 4Kids was looked at for face shape reference.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

FW Shredder is pretty persistent and never gives up. Even if he runs away when his plan fails rather than fight, he is always back for another round.

He is also out on the field most of the time often fighting alongside Bebop and Rocksteady rather than watching soap operas in the technodrome like Krang. Not to mention, he keeps himself in good shape unlike his minions.

Honestly, those are some pretty admirable qualities in a guy.

[Leo656]

Eh, 2016 gave me a bit of a soft spot for him and I guess I came to see him a little better than previously. That version is like that guy who isn't too photogenic, but the right light and angles work out okay now and then.


I guess, maybe, I'll never actually see that movie. :lol:

[red1981]

I can sort of see how some versions of Leo might be sexually attractive to some women but I don't see it with BayTurtles Leo at all.

My wife is very much attracted to 1990 movie Leo and 4Kids Leo and that I can actually kinda see. BayTurtles Leo, not so much.

i can see leo and koya having a relationship in the idw comic

[IndigoErth]

Maybe this is better suited to the general "random thought" thread but...

Finally after all these years I was able to check out that Sims Freeplay mobile game (that they replaced my little FB Sims game with years ago and I had no access to this one)...so now 80% of the characters are named after a growing list tof TMNT characters. Even managed a legit looking 87 human Yoshi. Klunk is gray, but he's there, too. :)

i can see leo and koya having a relationship in the idw comic

Imagine how awkward (and possibly painful) it would be trying to kiss someone with a bird beak.

Given his history of the sorts he's gone for across the franchisee...Koya is just too off in left field to me (though I assume that was the point). Of course now Carmen showed up to make people speculate (and possibly freak out) on that angle.

[Leo656]

I, uh... I have no idea who Koya is. :ohwell:

Indigo, remind me to send you my novel once it's done. I think you'd dig it the most. :tgrin: I know you saw a tiny bit.

[IndigoErth]

Yes, please do. What I've seen of it was well done.

Admittedly I know I have a staunch resistance to tampering with a longtime character's pattern of behavior/interests, but yours is decent enough to let slide.

[Leo656]

Awwwwwwwww. "And The Grinch's heart grew three sizes that day." :lol: You're sweet. Thank you!

...And I swear Leo's not THAT "out-of-character" in-context, there's just certain moments that all make a lot more sense through the lens of the completed Whole. :) But I HAVE heard that before, or similar... "It's not QUITE familiar/expected but it makes sense in these circumstances." And that is indeed the point! So it's nice to be understood, sincerely.

I am almost-almost done. I swear! :lol: We'll make tea and make small talk, it'll be like a book club. Fun!

...But then you gotta give me something to read too or else it isn't faaaaaair. :tgrin:

[IndigoErth]

lol :D You've got a whole lot more dedication than I do to stick to writing a complete and solid piece. Been long enough since I've even opened my old version of Word that the paper clip character will probably judge me for it.

[Leo656]

:lol::lol::lol:

I was just saying to someone else, by default it might be the TMNT story with the most "TLC" ever put into it because no other TMNT story is likely a 30-ish Chapter f*cking novel full of Stephen King-length Chapters that took 20 years to f*cking write.*

For a story that on purpose only about 5 exclusively handpicked people are ever going to even see.

Call me a madman and I will not disagree. :lol: There is no point to this beyond self-amusement. Yet I simply cannot do anything with less than my absolute sincere and full effort. Not even This. It is lunacy. BUT, in some ways it's also the most "important" thing I've ever really done, artistically.

Hopefully it'll be worth the wait. I am ALMOST finished. Honest! :tgrin:

* And that's a bit of an embellishment... I did start it in 2003 but there was a whole huge chunk of years where I thought it was abandoned because I lost everything I'd ever written until GreenWillow found my original rough drafts on one of her hard drives. So yeah, it might only have legit taken... ten years to write? :lol:

I like to think if I were being paid to write it, it'd be a different story. Then again... knowing me... if I were getting paid to write it I'd find a way to make it take even longer, just out of spite. :lol:

[IndigoErth]

That's commendable dedication right there. Lunacy? Nah... Just therapeutic, imo, if a person can get in that comfortable mental zone and let the story almost write itself.

I do keep contemplating picking up some ideas again. Also while brushing my teeth the other morning randomly had an idea for maybe a (non-TMNT) kids book. Don't know that anything will come of that thought, but wrote it down at least so I don't forget.

[Leo656]

Yeah, you gotta keep notes. Ideas have a habit of trying to escape the yard.

Sometimes I go weeks without working on it though, that's another reason it's taken so long. But in the end it'll be better for it. The 2003 stuff needed a ton of work and I'm a much better writer now. In the end it'll all be for the best.

I'm shooting for the end of this year at the latest but we'll see.

[red1981]

I, uh... I have no idea who Koya is. :ohwell:

Indigo, remind me to send you my novel once it's done. I think you'd dig it the most. :tgrin: I know you saw a tiny bit.

in the idw comic line shredder has a female felcon named koya and he mutates it, and its dedicated to him her and leo have some great battles in the comic

[Turtle Soup]

The first 5 episodes of the OT are so good. If things would have kept going with the same direction and quality as those first 5, TMNT would be in a much better place today.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The first 5 episodes of the OT are so good. If things would have kept going with the same direction and quality as those first 5, TMNT would be in a much better place today.

I feel that season 7 of the OT (not counting European vacation) is pretty close to the tone and quality of season 1.

[Turtle Soup]

A version of TMNT that is some kind of combo of the Original Toon and Image (Vol. 3), would be wildly successful.

[Turtle Soup]

Started a Paramount+ trial to check it out. Why is 2k3 and Rise on there, but no 2k12?

[neatoman]

Started a Paramount+ trial to check it out. Why is 2k3 and Rise on there, but no 2k12?

Really? Huh, that's odd. I'm guessing it got licensed off to some other streaming service before the Viacom/CBS merger and this contract is still in effect, while the 2003 show wasn't. Though unless someone can say where the show is streaming, if at all, then this should just be dismissed as an hypothesis. If that is not the reason, I'm guessing there is some other contractual problem, that's usually the reason if there is no logic behind it from an outsider's perspective. What that would be, I have no idea.

The only alternative I can think of, which I seriously doubt is the case, is that Paramount prefers the 2003 show to be more accessible to the public... For some reason. I don't quite understand why that would be the case, they never bother with a proper DVD release despite buying it in 2009 or even did merch of it. Most of their "retro" TMNT merch is based on the FW show, which makes some sense but they don't the FW show... So if they changed their mind and wanted the 2003 show to be in the spotlight, my best guess is that they realised they don't own the FW show and probably never will, thus it makes sense to make the "retro" show they do own to be seen more? I don't know, the only way to know for sure is to get behind the scenes.

And... Don't take this the wrong way and I hope it isn't too biased, but I think it's probably for the best if the 2003 show is more accessible than the 2012 show.

[IndigoErth]

That is bizarre considering it doesn't appear to even be on Nicktoons anymore either. Looked around and looks like it was pulled from Hulu a couple months ago, so what is their holdup.

[Turtle Soup]

And... Don't take this the wrong way and I hope it isn't too biased, but I think it's probably for the best if the 2003 show is more accessible than the 2012 show.
Sure. 2k3 is awesome. But 2k12 is good too, I think it gets way too much hate on this forum.

[MattOnWheels]

Who remember the old Ninja turtles official website, where you could email each turtle and they would actually write you back in character as them?

Good times.

[Leo656]

Yeah I actually thought that was kinda cute.

[MattOnWheels]

Yeah I actually thought that was kinda cute.You got to admire the dedication. They wrote journal updates for each of the four of them. Leo had one in which he talked about the impact of 9/11 and stated they still light candles in the sewer every year on that day. I thought that was such a nice touch and a great commitment to making them seem real.

[Leo656]

You got to admire the dedication. They wrote journal updates for each of the four of them. Leo had one in which he talked about the impact of 9/11 and stated they still light candles in the sewer every year on that day. I thought that was such a nice touch and a great commitment to making them seem real.

Reminded me of when Guy Gardner used to answer his own mail in the comics. Little touches like that are always appreciated.

[MattOnWheels]

Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like if the CGI Miniseries ever came out. Back in the day, it seemed like that was the big thing fans were excited for before TMNT '03 when i looked in the older news sections at the time.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like if the CGI Miniseries ever came out. Back in the day, it seemed like that was the big thing fans were excited for before TMNT '03 when i looked in the older news sections at the time.

If you're referring to the cancelled CG pitch from 2001, I liked the direction they were going with the tone and character choices but that animation was rough.:lol: It probably would've been cancelled anyway,

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[MattOnWheels]

If you're referring to the cancelled CG pitch from 2001, I liked the direction they were going with the tone and character choices but that animation was rough.:lol: It probably would've been cancelled anyway,

Y_wQ8Xt8GN0Now see, here's the thing: I know that footage exists, but I could also swear there was supposed to be either a movie or a mini series of this style as well, and from what I remember, there was a script being floated around where Splinter "Plays an almost key role" and the rumor was he was going to die in the end. Was that this?

[Coola Yagami]

You got to admire the dedication. They wrote journal updates for each of the four of them. Leo had one in which he talked about the impact of 9/11 and stated they still light candles in the sewer every year on that day. I thought that was such a nice touch and a great commitment to making them seem real.

I'm glad they didn't get carried away and have Shredder send condolences, cause what would he care, lol.

Though I could see Season 3 2K3 Oroku Saki taking advantage of this by donating to charities and making big speeches and whatnot to buy favor with the city.

[MattOnWheels]

I'm glad they didn't get carried away and have Shredder send condolences, cause what would he care, lol.

Though I could see Season 3 2K3 Oroku Saki taking advantage of this by donating to charities and making big speeches and whatnot to buy favor with the city.Baxter, too! :D

[Coola Yagami]

Baxter, too! :D

I'm not 100% sure but wasn't one of Mirage Baxter's plans to also have the Twin Towers go down due to the Mousers chewing up their foundations?

I don't know... the Twin Towers have been used in so many fictional villains cartoon plans that it might have been our downfall. Bin Laden must have binge-watched a bunch of American movies and thought 'Ahhh So THAT'S how we hurt them!"

[Turo602]

Sometimes I wonder what it would have been like if the CGI Miniseries ever came out. Back in the day, it seemed like that was the big thing fans were excited for before TMNT '03 when i looked in the older news sections at the time.

That and the KidsWB version. I actually really liked the Turtle designs in the WB concept and still wish they'd do another series where they resemble their original comic book designs. They're distinct enough from other iterations without overly designing them like Rise and BayTurtles did.

But at the end of the day, 2k3 was honestly the best possible route TMNT could have gone in during that era. It's amazing how much that show was just such a perfect storm that couldn't be replicated today. The only other shot they have at another big TMNT cartoon is if they did a similar "adaptation" but for the IDW series and even that would be a long shot unless handled perfectly.

The one thing that still eludes me though is this one CGI video that I remember floating around in like 2001 or 2002 of Raphael running from a Mouser to Rob Zombie's Dragula. Never understood what the deal was with that, especially after learning about that CGI pitch that came out around the same time and the WB version. What relation did all these projects have and how did 2k3 come about so quickly?

Also, that Rob Zombie video was pulled from YouTube a couple to a few years ago and now I can't find it anywhere. I'm guessing due to copyright issues with the song, but who made it initially and what was its purpose?

[MattOnWheels]

That and the KidsWB version. I actually really liked the Turtle designs in the WB concept and still wish they'd do another series where they resemble their original comic book designs. They're distinct enough from other iterations without overly designing them like Rise and BayTurtles did.

But at the end of the day, 2k3 was honestly the best possible route TMNT could have gone in during that era. It's amazing how much that show was just such a perfect storm that couldn't be replicated today. The only other shot they have at another big TMNT cartoon is if they did a similar "adaptation" but for the IDW series and even that would be a long shot unless handled perfectly.

The one thing that still eludes me though is this one CGI video that I remember floating around in like 2001 or 2002 of Raphael running from a Mouser to Rob Zombie's Dragula. Never understood what the deal was with that, especially after learning about that CGI pitch that came out around the same time and the WB version. What relation did all these projects have and how did 2k3 come about so quickly?

Also, that Rob Zombie video was pulled from YouTube a couple to a few years ago and now I can't find it anywhere. I'm guessing due to copyright issues with the song, but who made it initially and what was its purpose?I dunno. 2012 had flaws but i think it did slright. It certainly created a LOT of new fans when it was on.

I've said it before, but i think Rise even had it's own nice little spot too. I don't doubt we'll have a good new one in a few years. Something like the intro to the new game would be SWEET...

[IndigoErth]

T...making big speeches and whatnot to buy favor with the city.
At least then Eric Sacks would have seemed vaguely inspired by something instead of a random idea pulled from PD's collective behind.

[Andrew NDB]

I originally postulated that Eric Sachs would be the vessel for Krang. Or that he would become such in movie #2.

[red1981]

is it too much to ask for a second tmnt movie based on the 07 movie

[neatoman]

is it too much to ask for a second tmnt movie based on the 07 movie

Do you mean a direct sequel to the 2007 movie or a remake of the 2007 movie?

[red1981]

Do you mean a direct sequel to the 2007 movie or a remake of the 2007 movie?

i should have said direct sequel, they can bring back shredder

[AquaParade]

is it too much to ask for a second tmnt movie based on the 07 movie

At this point, I don’t see it happening, if that’s what you mean. It gets a lot of love from the people who remember it, but it didn’t leave a strong mark on the franchise.

Personally, I found the story to be pretty dull, but I liked the atmosphere and world they created, so I would have given a sequel a chance. You probably know this already, but Imagi was interested in doing a sequel and made a concept poster which showcased Mikey amongst his three brothers, who had devolved back into normal turtles. There was a silhouette of Shredder in the background.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The animation of that film is so superb, even by 2022 standard. The rain and lighting during that Leo and Raph fight is downright gorgeous.

[neatoman]

A sequel to the 2007 movie is obviously not going to happen. Paramount making a billion things relating back to the Fred Wolf cartoon makes some sense, they may not own the rights to it but having once been the biggest version of the TMNT, it makes sense that they still think it's worth trying to cash in on. The 2007 movie wasn't that notable and I don't think Paramount are interested in continuing something owned by WB. The best I think might happen is that some guy at IDW is a superfan of the movie pleads his way into writing a sequel comic book, though even that seems somewhat unlikely. Maybe some concepts originating in that movie (Nightwatcher, the Thirteen Monsters, Mr Winters, etc) end up worming their way into versions of the franchise but after 15 and best so far is BttS doing some redesigns for mild synergy, I'm not seeing any rush to make that happen.

The animation of that film is so superb, even by 2022 standard. The rain and lighting during that Leo and Raph fight is downright gorgeous.

It is very well directed and ambitious, I'll give the animation that. The CGI itself though is... Rough. In every single one of thei movies, Imagi's models always looked slightly below professional. Clearly not trashy models or amateurish ones, but just noticeably below what you'd expect from any other studio making theatrical movies.

[MattOnWheels]

At this point, I don’t see it happening, if that’s what you mean. It gets a lot of love from the people who remember it, but it didn’t leave a strong mark on the franchise.

Personally, I found the story to be pretty dull, but I liked the atmosphere and world they created, so I would have given a sequel a chance. You probably know this already, but Imagi was interested in doing a sequel and made a concept poster which showcased Mikey amongst his three brothers, who had devolved back into normal turtles. There was a silhouette of Shredder in the background.Now THAT sounds awesome. A movie focused on Mikey, the youngest, having to mature enough to save his brothers all by himself, That's actually a fun concept.

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On another note: I've been coming up with my own dumb-ass fan theories as to where the turtles get their cravings for Pizza in the FW universe. At one point in the Eye Of Sarnoth Arc, Leo says "Ice cream?! Yuck!" If i'm correct - now, i know it's just a joke regarding the fact they're pizza addicts, but i think there's an avenue for interesting concepts here, so here we go: If we take that into account and combine it with the fact they like such strange toppings on their pizzas, perhaps we can make the argument that not only are their bodies mutated, but their taste buds are as well. Maybe their whole diet was attuned to require things that human bodies would reject, such as most of the pizzas they like. That would explain why they dob't even like "Normal" junk food.

An alternate theory would be that they've just been raised in the sewer so long prior to meeting April that pizza is the only method they're used to concerning eating food. In the first season of FW, they don't know why the humans do what they do. So maybe the concept of eating things that aren't pizza is just that foreign to them. Though I can't imagine splinter hadn't ever tried to show them other foods...

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Given how they handle Mike these days, I'd only want one if it's based on The Last Ronin.

[neatoman]

On another note: I've been coming up with my own dumb-ass fan theories as to where the turtles get their cravings for Pizza in the FW universe. At one point in the Eye Of Sarnoth Arc, Leo says "Ice cream?! Yuck!" If i'm correct - now, i know it's just a joke regarding the fact they're pizza addicts, but i think there's an avenue for interesting concepts here, so here we go: If we take that into account and combine it with the fact they like such strange toppings on their pizzas, perhaps we can make the argument that not only are their bodies mutated, but their taste buds are as well. Maybe their whole diet was attuned to require things that human bodies would reject, such as most of the pizzas they like. That would explain why they dob't even like "Normal" junk food.

An alternate theory would be that they've just been raised in the sewer so long prior to meeting April that pizza is the only method they're used to concerning eating food. In the first season of FW, they don't know why the humans do what they do. So maybe the concept of eating things that aren't pizza is just that foreign to them. Though I can't imagine splinter hadn't ever tried to show them other foods...

Personally, much like how the show made the Foot Clan robots to adhere to SAP, I always thought pizza was a child-friendly substitute for... Well...
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[sdp]

Who owns the rights to the 2007 designs and story? Mirage (therefore Viacom?) They used a screenshot on turtles forever so perhaps, Imagi is long dead but I don't think they kept anything, would it be the distributor of the movie?

If Viacom owns it then perhaps it's possible albeit unlikely for it to happen, if the in rights are with the distributor or in limbo because of Imagi dying then it's definitely never going to happen. Either way the 2007 movie isn't getting more stories sadly.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Who owns the rights to the 2007 designs and story? Mirage (therefore Viacom?) They used a screenshot on turtles forever so perhaps, Imagi is long dead but I don't think they kept anything, would it be the distributor of the movie?

If Viacom owns it then perhaps it's possible albeit unlikely for it to happen, if the in rights are with the distributor or in limbo because of Imagi dying then it's definitely never going to happen. Either way the 2007 movie isn't getting more stories sadly.

Speaking of Viacom, last month they renamed themselves "Paramount Global" or "Paramount", likely for brand consistency since they own Paramount Pictures, Paramount+, etc.

[Andrew NDB]

Who owns the rights to the 2007 designs and story? Mirage (therefore Viacom?) They used a screenshot on turtles forever so perhaps, Imagi is long dead but I don't think they kept anything, would it be the distributor of the movie?

It's possible there's still stuff tied up with the Weinstein Company. I vaguely remember something about IDW not being allowed to use Winters or something.

[neatoman]

It's possible there's still stuff tied up with the Weinstein Company. I vaguely remember something about IDW not being allowed to use Winters or something.

I don't know about that. I remember that an issue of IDW had a character called Winter, I assumed this character would be Winters and said so, while someone else assumed it would be Alex Winter from the Red Sky Seasons and he turned out to be correct. I can't however remember anything about the 2007 characters being off-limits, just that I was wrong about thinking one was going to be in the book.

[neatoman]

So I came across this a few hours ago... Not sure I understand why anyone go for a Ninja Turtle for... This...

The weird thing is that it's close to my University campus and the train station near it, so I actually have a suspect in regards to who placed this sticker, I just don't feel like getting in contact with this person... Like ever...

[MattOnWheels]

Im posting this here cause it IS TMNT related and i must talk about it...

A few days ago, you may recall that i made this post:

Now THAT sounds awesome. A movie focused on Mikey, the youngest, having to mature enough to save his brothers all by himself, That's actually a fun concept.

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On another note: I've been coming up with my own dumb-ass fan theories as to where the turtles get their cravings for Pizza in the FW universe. At one point in the Eye Of Sarnoth Arc, Leo says "Ice cream?! Yuck!" If i'm correct - now, i know it's just a joke regarding the fact they're pizza addicts, but i think there's an avenue for interesting concepts here, so here we go: If we take that into account and combine it with the fact they like such strange toppings on their pizzas, perhaps we can make the argument that not only are their bodies mutated, but their taste buds are as well. Maybe their whole diet was attuned to require things that human bodies would reject, such as most of the pizzas they like. That would explain why they dob't even like "Normal" junk food.

An alternate theory would be that they've just been raised in the sewer so long prior to meeting April that pizza is the only method they're used to concerning eating food. In the first season of FW, they don't know why the humans do what they do. So maybe the concept of eating things that aren't pizza is just that foreign to them. Though I can't imagine splinter hadn't ever tried to show them other foods...

As it turned out, WHILE i had written this post--which took quite some time thanks too my handicap--apparently, My sister had been trying to contact me all night but i didn't Facebook open or my phone on...the last thing i remember that night was trying to sit down and watch TMNT 07, but i went to bed in stead...

I woke up next morning to find out she had taken her own life.

Needless to say, I am stunned....we had planned on playing The Cowabunga collection together.......

I am so, so glad to have shared my love of Turtles with her...We bonded over it....My last conversation with her was actually how I was glad to rejoin this forum and the TMNT community in general. She said it was beautiful that I still had that with me....

The turtles were my last subject with her......our last plans together...

Life is.....so strange......

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss :(

May you and your sister's loved ones find tranquility during this difficult time.

[Leo656]

Well that's awful.

[IndigoErth]

Condolences to you and your family and having to face that kind of loss.

[MattOnWheels]

thank you all

[sdp]

Donatello should be removed from the TMNT

Let's be honest here Donnie is and has always been the least favorite turtle, it's difficult to compete against the leader, the "fun" one or the "rebel" when you're the "nerd". He also has the lamest weapon to most people with the bow against his brothers, I think that's why every incarnation seems to give him a "tech bo" whatever that is to make him look cooler. He also has the worst color which is purple and let's face it it was always a "gay" color. There's also the fact that the original donnie figure was brown which made him far less popular than the other turtles who are the more common and accepted green color in society. This has made him difficult to market and always a shelfwarmer who is the turtle with the worst sales, the only reason most kids even get a Donatello figure is to have all 4 turtles. Because of this Playmates has tried to not release Donnie figures when it was able to when it came to variants.

Is it time for Donatello to be let go from the franchise? It seems the franchise as a whole would be better off without him. Search within your hearts, you know it to be true.

This isn't a "Does Donatello have any fans?" question this is the internet and clearly there's going to be tons of people who like him and prefer him as a turtle. This also isn't a "is donatello useless" post since he isn't, he's had plenty of great adventures and without his inventions the TMNT wouldn't have saved the day.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

Donatello should be removed from the TMNT

Let's be honest here Donnie is and has always been the least favorite turtle, it's difficult to compete against the leader, the "fun" one or the "rebel" when you're the "nerd". He also has the lamest weapon to most people with the bow against his brothers, I think that's why every incarnation seems to give him a "tech bo" whatever that is to make him look cooler. He also has the worst color which is purple and let's face it it was always a "gay" color. There's also the fact that the original donnie figure was brown which made him far less popular than the other turtles who are the more common and accepted green color in society. This has made him difficult to market and always a shelfwarmer who is the turtle with the worst sales, the only reason most kids even get a Donatello figure is to have all 4 turtles. Because of this Playmates has tried to not release Donnie figures when it was able to when it came to variants.

Is it time for Donatello to be let go from the franchise? It seems the franchise as a whole would be better off without him. Search within your hearts, you know it to be true.

This isn't a "Does Donatello have any fans?" question this is the internet and clearly there's going to be tons of people who like him and prefer him as a turtle. This also isn't a "is donatello useless" post since he isn't, he's had plenty of great adventures and without his inventions the TMNT wouldn't have saved the day.

Donnie is my favorite turtle and I have seen a lot of others say the same thing. Donnie in my opinion is the most important turtle because of his intelligence. In the original cartoon his gadgets always helped save the day.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

sdp's post got me thinking what if Ninja Turtles only had 2 or 3 turtles, its an interesting what if. There can't be only 1 turtle though, that would betray the title which has turtles in plural.

[IndigoErth]

No Donnie? Nah.They're an archetypal group theme, cutting one out hurts that dynamic.

And who would be picking up the slack? Leo's a smart guy, but not in the same technological sense. He has occasionally found his way through using Donnie's tech if Donnie was down or not present and is smart enough to trial and error it if he had to, but he'll never be able to come up with it from scratch on his own and he's got enough on his plate already than have to take up the mantle of the inventive genius as well.

Plus removing Donnie loses the message that you don't have to be the toughest one, could even be the brainy one, and still be an ass kicker and cool in your own right without having to be the most popular one. Some people relate to or look up to his type of personality, intelligence, and values.

[Prowler]

sdp's post got me thinking what if Ninja Turtles only had 2 or 3 turtles, its an interesting what if. There can't be only 1 turtle though, that would betray the title which has turtles in plural.

When I was a kid and played with my Turtles toys, I'd make up episodes and stories naturally. One time I made a story where Leonardo and Michelangelo had "died" and dint appear for like 6 episodes. Then I bright them back to life since Raphael and Donatello couldn't just do all by themselves.

This sounds cringe and stupid now, but I was 13 when I came up with this.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

When I was a kid and played with my Turtles toys, I'd make up episodes and stories naturally. One time I made a story where Leonardo and Michelangelo had "died" and dint appear for like 6 episodes. Then I bright them back to life since Raphael and Donatello couldn't just do all by themselves.

This sounds cringe and stupid now, but I was 13 when I came up with this.

I don't think its cringe. Funnily enough though, there wasn't a single episode of the OT which didn't have all 4 turtles in it.

I do wish that they used one or two less turtles every now and then. Maybe it would've been better when one of the voice actors wasn't possible as opposed to getting a terrible replacement.

[Prowler]

I don't think its cringe. Funnily enough though, there wasn't a single episode of the OT which didn't have all 4 turtles in it.

I do wish that they used one or two less turtles every now and then. Maybe it would've been better when one of the voice actors wasn't possible as opposed to getting a terrible replacement.
Yes. For a while I did wonder how an episode with only half the Turtles would work out.

We never got to see that in the FW series or 2k3 iirc. Closest o can think of is the 2nd Garbageman episode where Mike and Don are pretty much the only Turtles that actually do anything in the episode. Raph and Leo barely appear but certainly are in it.

The FW series also had very few episodes without April. The first one to come to my mind immediately is Turtle Trek. She doesn't even get mentioned at all in it.

[Leo656]

Would've been funny if in one of the episodes with the wrong voice actor, they could have said that Turtle had a cold. :lol: Or like if there was a permanent change in the actor, they could have had the character get hit in the throat or something and that's why they sounded different forever after. :lol: Something. Would've been silly but at least there'd be some flimsy explanation, y'know?

[IMJ]

Or like if there was a permanent change in the actor, they could have had the character get hit in the throat or something and that's why they sounded different forever after. :lol: Something. Would've been silly but at least there'd be some flimsy explanation, y'know?

This is how TMNT '12 dealt with the change in Leo's voice actor. It was brilliant....

[Leo656]

This is how TMNT '12 dealt with the change in Leo's voice actor. It was brilliant....

Haha, that's funny. I wasn't watching it by then so I had no idea. I knew they switched voice actors a couple of times but I wasn't actually paying attention to the show anymore after Season 1, just random episodes here and there. All of which only served to reinforce why I wasn't still watching it.

[Turtle Soup]

TMNT 3 is underrated. I think It's better than SOTO.

[Turtle Soup]

I wanna see Raph really **** **** up with his sai in a movie. Sai can be ****in brutal.

[red1981]

TMNT 3 is underrated. I think It's better than SOTO.

i also think that about 3 i liked the fact that shredder and the foot where not involved

[cammy85]

TMNT 3 is underrated. I think It's better than SOTO.

Bingo. Shredder worked better in the first movie as a serious threat. In SOTO, he was more like his cartoon counterpart for the most part. I get why they had to, but still. But... I'm surprised the violence and weapon usage was amped up for the third movie, even if it was still overly goofy most of the time. Even Splinter was "making funnies" throughout the third movie and not the wise sage he was in the first two movies.

[Leo656]

Definitely a strong case can be made for III being better as a movie. II is more "fun" and I can see why it's some peoples' favorite but I always felt betrayed by it for not being a proper sequel to the amazing first movie.

III wasn't great either but it was... a little less over-the-top "goofy" and it occasionally tried to be serious and I appreciated that. Too little, too late, and still too beholden to what peoples' expectations of the brand had already become.

[cammy85]

Bingo!! And I still stand by "Legend of Koji" being an apology for the third movie.

[IndigoErth]

Happy birthday, Turtles! :tparty:

[superstaff]

Happy birthday, Turtles! :tparty:

Oh, is it??

[Jester]

Bingo!! And I still stand by "Legend of Koji" being an apology for the third movie.

You and me both.

[IndigoErth]

Oh, is it??
May 5, 1984. Those boys are getting some age on them. (Older than Cubed, so you know it has to be true.)

[DonatelloDomeHead31]

Donnie is my favorite turtle and I have seen a lot of others say the same thing. Donnie in my opinion is the most important turtle because of his intelligence. In the original cartoon his gadgets always helped save the day.

I will add something if i may: Donnie has the best quotes Movie-wise, and in some of the cartoons (80s cartoon that is)