The so-called "Video Game Awards

[ThirdMarioBro]

Or as I call it "the Video Game Adwards". They knew it would suck. That's whay it had strippers. Nascar beating F-Zero GX? Matrix (bug filled piece of s***) as best game based on a movie? But Madden 2004 as.....

FREAKING GAME OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is insane! Where do these crack sniffing mindslaves get the idea that the 13th (or whatever number it is) remake of Madden can out do the kind of games that were released this year? Spike TV can go to hell, the judges can go to hell, and David Spade can go to hell and rot for all eternity. I hope with all my heart that this show dosen't catch on. Please forgive me for all of that. It's just kinda bleak to see what the VG industry has been reduced to. I've ben a video game fan all my life and this makes me want to puke. *sigh* Oh well....As long as there's Nintendo, and Sega there is hope. Screw you Bill Gates and screw you Spike TV with a capital "S".

[Dane E5R]

Halo 2 got most anticipated game, I'm satisfied.

[That Matt Guy]

Sounds retarded.

[Taloniss]

It was a joke of a travesty of a sham of a farce.

[Drtooth]

>>It was a joke of a travesty of a sham of a farce<<

It is an awards show, and those are usually farces. Even the Oscars.

I mean, who says that some almighty bunch of voters are the ones who are right?

I always take awards (any award you can think of) with a whole lot of salt!

[Peanut]

Yeah it was terrible. I felt sick the moment it started and the first thing they do is announce game of the year. I guess that wouldn't be too bad except that the winner was MADDEN! That really peeved me. There wasn't one mention of a Nintendo game. I'm surprised GTA: Vice City wasn't mentioned once either. As a gamer I felt obligated to watch it and support the gaming community, if you could call this game releated. They should have just called it the random crap show. Best racing game...NASCAR!?! Give me a break. I think the only well deserved awards were Star Wars: KOTOR for best Fantasy, Halo 2 for most anticipated, and SC 2 for best fighting game. The rest was a joke. The only real gamers that seemed to be there were ridiculed. The two guys playing SC 2. "They aren't getting laid any time soon." Hyuk hyuk David @*$%in' Spade. I'm sorry but that show just made me sick.

[edit: I meant Soul Caliber 2 for most addictive]

[Bowser_Koopa]

>>It was a joke of a travesty of a sham of a farce<<

It is an awards show, and those are usually farces. Even the Oscars.

I mean, who says that some almighty bunch of voters are the ones who are right?

I always take awards (any award you can think of) with a whole lot of salt!

i never agreed with the fact to shrek won the Oscar and Monsters Inc. didn't.....

[impetus]

the awards indeed sucked but as i understand Andrew WK and POD rocked.

The awards were ridiculous:

Best Animation: Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball (Tecmo)
Best Performance By A Human: Ray Liotta in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (Rockstar)
Best Game Based on a Movie: Enter the Matrix (Atari)
Most Addictive: Soul Calibur II (Namco)
Best Action Game: True Crime: Streets of LA (Activision)
Pontiac/GTO Driving Award: Nascar Thunder 2004 (EA Sports)
Best Fantasy Game: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (LucasArts)
Best Sports Game: Tony Hawk's Underground (Activision)
Best Fighting Game: WWE Smackdown! Here Comes the Pain (THQ)
Most Anticipated Game: Halo 2 (Microsoft)
Best Handheld Game: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell (Ubi Soft)
Best Online Game: Final Fantasy XI (Square Enix)
Best 1st Person Action: Call of Duty (Activision)
Best PC Game: Halo: Combat Evolved (Microsoft)
Game of the Year: Madden NFL 2004 (EA Sports)
Best Music: Def Jam Vendetta (EA Big)

My changes:
Most Addictive - Zelda Collectors Edition. Or Wario Ware.
Best Handheld - Wario Ware? Castlevania? Boktai? Hello?
Best Driving game - ANYTHING besides a Nascar game!!!!
Best Fantasy Game - Return of The King or Castlevania
Game of the Year - anything besides a recurring sports franchise! Geez, people are stupid. How about Castlevania? Soul Calibur 2? Otogi? Viewtiful Joe? ARRRRGH!!!
Best Fighting Game: fighting game, not wrestling game. Virtua Fighter 4? Soul Calibur 2?

[ThirdMarioBro]

i never agreed with the fact to shrek won the Oscar and Monsters Inc. didn't.....

Disney should have won for several reasons. First of all, that was the first year that best animated movie had a catagory, and Disney has been earning that award for the past 100 years. Second and formost, Shrek is a ripoff of every single one of those Disney movies. That's disturbing. The only reason Shrek won was it's voice actors. They had big name hollywood voice actors in the movie, and the Oscers are all about the big hollywood actors petting themselves on the back, so Shrek won. All award shows are rigged from the get go. True Star Wars and Soul Caliber 2 did deserve those awards, but that was about it.

[Dr. Doom]

I didn't even bother watching the VGAs after I checked the nominees

[JameO]

Yeah it was terrible. I felt sick the moment it started and the first thing they do is announce game of the year. I guess that wouldn't be too bad except that the winner was MADDEN! That really peeved me. There wasn't one mention of a Nintendo game. I'm surprised GTA: Vice City wasn't mentioned once either. As a gamer I felt obligated to watch it and support the gaming community, if you could call this game releated. They should have just called it the random crap show. Best racing game...NASCAR!?! Give me a break. I think the only well deserved awards were Star Wars: KOTOR for best Fantasy, Halo 2 for most anticipated, and SC 2 for best fighting game. The rest was a joke. The only real gamers that seemed to be there were ridiculed. The two guys playing SC 2. "They aren't getting laid any time soon." Hyuk hyuk David @*$%in' Spade. I'm sorry but that show just made me sick.

Yeah that was exactly the same way I felt. The only good part I enjoyed was the Rey vs Jericho Match. Rey jumping off the ropes and hitting jericho that was good. And having Al Snow there was cool too. I wasn't too fond on the way they showed the winner. With cheerleaders just going crazy by a screen then a bit of confetti to the winning table a bit stupid in my opinion.

[Mr. Snackpants]

I'll tell you was sucks and blows......your freakin poll.

Why is it such a bad thind that Madden 2004 was picked as game of the year??? I personal agree with them, it's an awesome game. Just because most of you probably don't play sports, you hate the idea of a sports game picked as game of the year. Most of you probably haven't played it.

"anything besides a recurring sports franchise! Geez, people are stupid."-impetus
Did you ever stop and think that maybe Madden is a good game and it doesn't matter if it's reccuring??? It's the best sports game there is. It also has some of the best sales. The game is awesome, especially for PS2, because you can play online.

[Anarky]

hey, that's just lousy. all the "big" games get the glory but the small ones don't even get mentionned.


My alltime Favorite: EXTREME G (N64) That speed, the design, the music... *drools*

[Dr. Doom]

Sports games are very specific in their audience tho, Ben, that's the point. Pople who don't like sports games aren't gonna be hhappy that one was picked game of the year, nor will they want to play it at all.

[That Matt Guy]

Best Animation: Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball (Tecmo)

:roll: For perves.

[jeff the cheff]

Yea I watched this thinking it would be great but it really did suck. The main reason was there wasn't enough video games, but mostly crappy performances of wrestling and porn stars. I voted it sucked, cause it kinda did.

[Stone Ill]

The awards did suck. Sure the chicks were awesome, but they were on for basically the whole damn show. And basically every game that won came out about a month ago.

I respect Madden 2004 winning. I've never played it, but I've heard great things. Sure, I wouldn't pick it as game of the year even if I had played it, but it still doesn't bother me. And I'm also confused as to why Madden 2004 got GOTY but not best sports game? Oh well.. :roll:

I was a bit disappointed that Jak II and/or Ratchet & Clank 2 didn't win anything though, but then again, it's just a stupid awards show.

I used to like David Spade, but not that much after this show. I don't hate him, but I just hated the way he was acting. I mean, I'll still turn on Tommy Boy and have a laugh. :)

[impetus]

There's nothing wrong with sports or sports games - I play them myself. But they are mostly (as Madden is) franchises which just keep getting updated. There are several great games which deserve being honored, and although the Madden series is good (almost as good as Sega Sports), it really does not deserve the Honor.

[PizzaPower]

ya but they should not give sport game a game of the year.

[SkaterMike]

Spike TV took all that I have believed in, and warped it into yet another crap filled, celebrity glamour "whoever paid us the most money wins" BS fest! Honestly, I'm a huge Halo fan, and I own an XBox, and can't wait for Halo 2, but even I know that Half Life 2 should have won most anticipated game. What was even worse was how they never announced any runners up. And don't get me started on the annoying people screaming for every single thing that was said, or game announced....

*Pulls hair out of head, slowly sinks into state of mental insanity "Someone sue SpikeTV for me" *

[PizzaPower]

I still belive that GTA Vice City should have been game of the year.

[Stone Ill]

Vice City came out in 2002.. :roll:

[Eye of Sarnath]

But came out for PC in 2003.

The fact that Enter the Matrix won an award makes me sick. That game was awful.

I'm glad to see Knights of the Old Republic won an award - it truly deserves it.

[Mr. Snackpants]

ya but they should not give sport game a game of the year.
:roll: because...............I dont see why a sports game cant have it. Your'e an idiot.......

[The Stryker]

GWARGH!!!!!!!!

no CLASSIC game award?!? they degraded legends like Pac-man,Donkey-Kong,Pong and Space Invaders
to damn promo spots and a phone poll

it seems that every game that requires a bit of THINKING didn't win anything

Kingdom Hearts,Viewtiful Joe,Mario Sunshine, NBA F&*#ING street vol 2 Didn't win anything?!!?!?

and the matrix game winning a award..it was fixed!!! the only reason it won is because they had P.O.D to play a song from the craptacular Reloaded movie

.....Im gonna go and play REAL games

*walks away Grumbling Angrily*

[ThirdMarioBro]

The whole thing was fixed. The title to win game of the year should be a game that has done something revolutionary, or reinvented a genere, or pushed the limits of gaming in every way. Madden just isn't that. I'm sure it's a good game to those to play it. But it is the same game every year with a freash coat of paint each time. It may be fun, but it dosen't do anything worth of game of the year. Now, I may not be an PS2 or X-Box fan, but it would have made sense for GTA to win (even if it is a year old), but not Madden. Now Wind Waker, that's game of the year worthy. Hell, I'm stunned to death that the pop worshiping idiots didn't give anything to Britney's Dance Beat. At least they have a little sanity. :roll:


Madden won because the core audience for that show was 18-36 year old men who tuned in to see strippers, and most men that age like football, so Madden won. Death to Spike TV.

[Dr. Doom]

yeah, that sounds about right.

[Taloniss]

Sports games are very specific in their audience tho, Ben, that's the point. Pople who don't like sports games aren't gonna be hhappy that one was picked game of the year, nor will they want to play it at all.

Every game is like that. Some people hate RPG's and if one won, they'd be pissed. Some people hate FPS's, ect. Everyone has their own tastes and opinions, and you can't satisfy everyone at an awards show.

[Peanut]

I play sports AND sports games probably more than most other games. Now at least. But NO sports game...EVER...deserves to be game of the year.

[impetus]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I happen to think Enter the Matrix was a great game. There was definitely a lot to like. Sure it's got a license which blows it out of proportion, but it's still a fun game (the most important thing) with a lot of cool stuff behind it (physics, motion capture, action choreography), despite what peopl may think of the license, movie, program bugs (which are few), etc. The only real flaw in the game (at least the PS2 version) is the long load times. With the possible exception of ROTK, which just now came out, I don't think there was a better game based on a movie this year.

[Raven]

the only thing im mad about is that metal gear solid didnt win anything :x

[impetus]

MGS did not come out in 2003. :wink: (And Substance does not count as a new game.)

[Demonfox38]

What's this? No Zelda game? No F-Zero GC or AC?

They must die!

[impetus]

I agree... when did Wind Waker come out?

* This has been edited to save face.

[Demonfox38]

Wasn't Wind Waker released in Spring 2003?

[impetus]

either that or Christmas 2003 - don't remember which...

* This has also been edited to save face. :)

[Taloniss]

Wasn't Wind Waker released in Spring 2003?

I believe it was March 2003

[Dane E5R]

Spike TV took all that I have believed in, and warped it into yet another crap filled, celebrity glamour "whoever paid us the most money wins" BS fest! Honestly, I'm a huge Halo fan, and I own an XBox, and can't wait for Halo 2, but even I know that Half Life 2 should have won most anticipated game. What was even worse was how they never announced any runners up. And don't get me started on the annoying people screaming for every single thing that was said, or game announced....

*Pulls hair out of head, slowly sinks into state of mental insanity "Someone sue SpikeTV for me" *

::throws things everywhere:: Non-sense. NON-SENSE. :flaming:

[Demonfox38]

And this is why there should be no Spike TV, nor Lifetime, nor Oxygen. We do not need the man's/woman's channels, because for the majority, they are full of crap. The reruns of Design Women are nice, though. :P

[JameO]

Yeah Ben thats the thing you are dragged into the whole thing that you enjoy football and like the game Madden. But you got to look at it as a game not as how it appeals to football fans. As Mikey said sports games are fun for people that enjoy that sport and don't belong in a best game of the year category. Maybe have it's own category like Best Sports Game but then that would be a long awards having a Best Fantasy Best Shooter game but would be good.

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

Best Game Based on a Movie: Enter the Matrix (Atari)


No way. ETM was very flawed and glitchy as hell. (Probably get a 6.0/10 from me.) Return of the King should've gotten that award. Idiotic awards just can't wait to have the ceremony after 2003 ended. Bah.

[ZariusTwo]

Enter the Matrix?

BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh come on, that is god damn bull crap, as was the game itself

The real winner is SMACKDOWN: Here Comes the Pain :x

[ThirdMarioBro]

As Mikey said sports games are fun for people that enjoy that sport and don't belong in a best game of the year category. Maybe have it's own category like Best Sports Game but then that would be a long awards having a Best Fantasy Best Shooter game but would be good.

Bingo, that's exactly how it should have been done. That's how most mags do it, and it has always served them well. The real thing that irks me is that Nintendo didn't win anything. I mean how in the world can Nascar even begin to compete with F-Zero GX? The game was created by the two industry leaders (Nintendo & Sega) who hated each other and tried their darndest to abolish each other from the face of the earth over Nintendo's prez calling the wife of Sega's prez fat. Now they join together and create what I believe to be the greatest racing game of all time. Fast, crazy, huge, and awesome music. Heck, you can even build you're own machine and paint whatever you want on it. The thing should be treasured and yet I haven't seen it win anything, period. Heck, EGM will most likely crap on it in their awards because they think it's to difficult. It's hard because it's well made. If you can conquer Master class then you are a worthy gamer capable of anything. The VGA's sucked, blowed, and reeked. I think I'll leave it at that. :x

[Mr. Snackpants]

Kingdom Hearts,Viewtiful Joe,Mario Sunshine, NBA F&*#ING street vol 2 Didn't win anything?!!?!? -stryker
NBA Street Vol. 2 didnt win anything because its a sports game, and we all know sports games shouldnt win anything :roll:

Yeah Ben thats the thing you are dragged into the whole thing that you enjoy football and like the game Madden. But you got to look at it as a game not as how it appeals to football fans. As Mikey said sports games are fun for people that enjoy that sport and don't belong in a best game of the year category. Maybe have it's own category like Best Sports Game but then that would be a long awards having a Best Fantasy Best Shooter game but would be good.-~~Raphael~~

Yeah some dont like sports games, but some may not like shooters or other types of games. Like some people said they thought Zelda the Windwaker was a game and should of won.....well what about people like me, who hate those kind of games. Not everyone is going to like all types of games, and this is why i think its ****ing stupid why people say sports games dont deserve an game of he year award.[/quote]

[Bowser_Koopa]

is not that they don't deserve to win becuase they are sport games, is that there are better games, and i hear madden has a lot of games and they are all very alike, they just get updated and improved every year

[ThirdMarioBro]

thank you.

[Deepflame]

I mean how in the world can Nascar even begin to compete with F-Zero GX? The game was created by the two industry leaders (Nintendo & Sega) who hated each other and tried their darndest to abolish each other from the face of the earth over Nintendo's prez calling the wife of Sega's prez fat. Now they join together and create what I believe to be the greatest racing game of all time. Fast, crazy, huge, and awesome music. Heck, you can even build you're own machine and paint whatever you want on it. The thing should be treasured and yet I haven't seen it win anything, period. Heck, EGM will most likely crap on it in their awards because they think it's to difficult. It's hard because it's well made. If you can conquer Master class then you are a worthy gamer capable of anything.

Well, without having played Nascar whatever, I daresay F-Zero GX is the racer of the year. Nothing else to add to topic than that those awards sucked, badly.
Urhm, and master setting is easy compared to the staff ghosts and some of the Story Mode chapters on Very Hard ;)

[jeff the cheff]

Hell, I'm stunned to death that the pop worshiping idiots didn't give anything to Britney's Dance Beat. At least they have a little sanity.


Hey I liked that game!


I haven't played much of Enter the Matrix but it prolly won best game from a movie cause it had videos from the movie that had to do with the storyline.

[Voltron]

People, please.

Sports games are great for so many reasons.

1) Why play something outside when you can do it indoors? This way, you don't have to worry about sweating.

2) Why would you pay nothing to play something when you could be spending $60-$70 to do the same thing.

3) I don't know about you guys, but I don't buy video games to escape from reality. Who wants to fly when you could run? Who wants a sword when you could use a ball? Who wants to fire bullets when you can fire passes?

4) Why spend money on something new, when you can buy something that was out last year BUT NOW COMES WITH UPGRADED STATS!!!???

Who cares what Link does? I heard that Donovan McNabb can run .133% faster in Madden 2005. And that you can actually hear the players fart, its that realisitc!

[Eye of Sarnath]

Classic. And 110% true, too.

the only thing im mad about is that metal gear solid didnt win anythingAnd which award should it have gotten? "Best Game That Didn't Come Out This Year"?

And I think we all know why Enter the Matrix won an award... because it was just so fun. I mean, don't you have fun when the game freezes in the middle of a loading screen? :roll:
I could write an essay on how crappy that game was, but I won't. If you ever make a game, just look to it for things to NOT do.

[impetus]

the only thing im mad about is that metal gear solid didnt win anythingAnd which award should it have gotten? "Best Game That Didn't Come Out This Year"?

well, MGS3 or Twin Snakes would be eligible for Most Anticipated (although it's still a stretch since Half Life 2 is the obvious choice).

[Mr. Snackpants]

is not that they don't deserve to win becuase they are sport games, is that there are better games, and i hear madden has a lot of games and they are all very alike, they just get updated and improved every year
That your'e opinion that there are better games. Alike???? No. you obvioulsy no nothing about them. Of course they will improve and update......what are they gunna do, downgrade to crappy graphics/gameplay and use an old, out dated roster??? No crap its updated and impoved :roll: Please. Its a great game and it deserves to at least be mentioned for a game of the year. Plus, it sold great and its obvious people loved it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I daresay F-Zero GX is the racer of the year. Nothing else to add to topic than that those awards sucked, badly.
Urhm, and master setting is easy compared to the staff ghosts and some of the Story Mode chapters on Very Hard ;)

So true...so true indeed. :)

[JameO]

is not that they don't deserve to win becuase they are sport games, is that there are better games, and i hear madden has a lot of games and they are all very alike, they just get updated and improved every year
That your'e opinion that there are better games. Alike???? No. you obvioulsy no nothing about them. Of course they will improve and update......what are they gunna do, downgrade to crappy graphics/gameplay and use an old, out dated roster??? No crap its updated and impoved :roll: Please. Its a great game and it deserves to at least be mentioned for a game of the year. Plus, it sold great and its obvious people loved it.

Gosh dang do you even listen to yourself? What you said about Zelda is wrong. Has nothing to do with if you like it or anything just the story graphics audo game play all that wonderful stuff to make a game good. Madden games just seem to be a repeat its just improved and roster changes and maybe a few added things but it's still the same concept. And yeah GK they really did do something stupid saying that was the best racing game like come on!

[malignant]

I dont want to read threw this whole thread, but i just noticed it....so..ignore me if its been said...=]

But as you all converse over what games didnt deserve to win.....Keep in mind.....the VGA's wasnt a REAL video game award show.....it was nothing more then promoting video Games for christmas.

Allthey did was name off games that needed a boost to sale, nothing more.

[Voltron]

yeah, but it still sucked.

[Demonfox38]

Amen, brother.

*steals Little Wyvern* I LOVE THIS GX MACHINE!!! *VROOM!*

[Bowser_Koopa]

is not that they don't deserve to win becuase they are sport games, is that there are better games, and i hear madden has a lot of games and they are all very alike, they just get updated and improved every year
That your'e opinion that there are better games. Alike???? No. you obvioulsy no nothing about them. Of course they will improve and update......what are they gunna do, downgrade to crappy graphics/gameplay and use an old, out dated roster??? No crap its updated and impoved :roll: Please. Its a great game and it deserves to at least be mentioned for a game of the year. Plus, it sold great and its obvious people loved it.

and you obiously don't know anything about Zelda, despite its stupid graphics this game is really good, and btw i don't think madden sold more than WW, if it did, it didn't sell more than POKEMON YELLOW, which i think is the game that has sold best so far, and imo, blue is batter. i'm not 100% sure, but i know if madden was the most sold game i would know.

and btw, i'm not saying is madden is not a great game, or that it doesn't deserve to mentioned. And please lets not turn this into an argument, :sweatdro:

[Mr. Snackpants]

is not that they don't deserve to win becuase they are sport games, is that there are better games, and i hear madden has a lot of games and they are all very alike, they just get updated and improved every year
That your'e opinion that there are better games. Alike???? No. you obvioulsy no nothing about them. Of course they will improve and update......what are they gunna do, downgrade to crappy graphics/gameplay and use an old, out dated roster??? No crap its updated and impoved :roll: Please. Its a great game and it deserves to at least be mentioned for a game of the year. Plus, it sold great and its obvious people loved it.

and you obiously don't know anything about Zelda, despite its stupid graphics this game is really good, and btw i don't think madden sold more than WW, if it did, it didn't sell more than POKEMON YELLOW, which i think is the game that has sold best so far, and imo, blue is batter. i'm not 100% sure, but i know if madden was the most sold game i would know.

and btw, i'm not saying is madden is not a great game, or that it doesn't deserve to mentioned. And please lets not turn this into an argument, :sweatdro:
I never said Madden sold more than WW. I just said it sold very well.
Pizza Power- If it's a good game...its a good game. It doesnt matter if its sports.

[Barkworm]

Three things:
1) I'll kill anyone who complains about the graphics of WW. :flaming:
2) Voltron's comment on sport games just made my day! :lol: :lol: :lol:
3) This VGA show sounds like the dumbest award crap I've heard about in a long time. But why bother about it?

[Bowser_Koopa]

Three things:
1) I'll kill anyone who complains about the graphics of WW. :flaming:
2) Voltron's comment on sport games just made my day! :lol: :lol: :lol:
3) This VGA show sounds like the dumbest award crap I've heard about in a long time. But why bother about it?

Oooppppssssss!!!!.......... :D


and you obiously don't know anything about Zelda, despite its stupid graphics this game is really good....

[ThirdMarioBro]

People, please.

Sports games are great for so many reasons.

1) Why play something outside when you can do it indoors? This way, you don't have to worry about sweating.

2) Why would you pay nothing to play something when you could be spending $60-$70 to do the same thing.

3) I don't know about you guys, but I don't buy video games to escape from reality. Who wants to fly when you could run? Who wants a sword when you could use a ball? Who wants to fire bullets when you can fire passes?

4) Why spend money on something new, when you can buy something that was out last year BUT NOW COMES WITH UPGRADED STATS!!!???

Who cares what Link does? I heard that Donovan McNabb can run .133% faster in Madden 2005. And that you can actually hear the players fart, its that realisitc!

Genius....pure genius.
I wonder what will happen when they invent smellivision? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Peanut]

Listen Ben, I like sports games, in fact I LOVE sports games. I also love sports. Well just hockey, but I still love it I've been playing NHL2k3 since it came out and I haven't even bothered to get 2k4 because 2k3 was just THAT GOOD. Despite all of that I don't think any sports game should be named game of the year. The reason Madden WAS named game of the year was because the VGA's were geared towards the main stream, which any gamer knows is usually quite ignorant. Sports/Killing/100% realistic games rule while games with anything that don't involve these things/ anything Nintendo puts out is stupid and for losers. Viewtiful Joe is one of the best games I've ever played. Yet people say it sucks and call it "gay" because it's colorful. Tell me where that makes sense? Tell me why people hate Zelda's graphics? Because it's not "realistic" it's too "kiddie". That's why Madden won. It was popular with the main stream. It wasn't deserving of one bit.

[Bowser_Koopa]

Listen Ben, I like sports games, in fact I LOVE sports games. I also love sports. Well just hockey, but I still love it I've been playing NHL2k3 since it came out and I haven't even bothered to get 2k4 because 2k3 was just THAT GOOD. Despite all of that I don't think any sports game should be named game of the year. The reason Madden WAS named game of the year was because the VGA's were geared towards the main stream, which any gamer knows is usually quite ignorant. Sports/Killing/100% realistic games rule while games with anything that don't involve these things/ anything Nintendo puts out is stupid and for losers. Viewtiful Joe is one of the best games I've ever played. Yet people say it sucks and call it "gay" because it's colorful. Tell me where that makes sense? Tell me why people hate Zelda's graphics? Because it's not "realistic" it's too "kiddie". That's why Madden won. It was popular with the main stream. It wasn't deserving of one bit.

err...i don't like zelda's graphics, but i like the game, in fact i love it, the fighting is better than in ZOoT, the humor is also very good, howcan you hate link's face when he heard the deku tree speak in hyrulean? :lol: unique!, plus they get deeper into the story of the game, Ganon was cool, although not as athletic as in OoT, i do think he was darker.

[Peanut]

I don't see what wasn't to like about the Zelda graphics. They displayed emotion eleventy billion times better than any previous Zelda game. Not to mention it was amazingly detailed. The graphics don't suck. Not at all. The only reason people don't like it is because it looks too "kidde" and to that I just say pffffffffffff.

[Bowser_Koopa]

well i don't like them because i was expecting realistic graphics, but with realistic graphics the sea probbably wouldn't have been possible, and some other things i think.

[Dr. Doom]

You gotta remember that they are kinda trying to do something different with every other game or so in the series and make each game have a different overall mood to it. I know it woulda been nice to have realistic Ocarina graphics, but that game had it's sequel and it's time for a new mood to take over the game. I think they did an amazing job of making it distinctly a Zelda game to reel in the old fans, yet different enough to keep people intrested.

[Taloniss]

You gotta remember that they are kinda trying to do something different with every other game or so in the series and make each game have a different overall mood to it. I know it woulda been nice to have realistic Ocarina graphics, but that game had it's sequel and it's time for a new mood to take over the game. I think they did an amazing job of making it distinctly a Zelda game to reel in the old fans, yet different enough to keep people intrested.

Exactly. Still, I hope the next game, they go with a more realistic graphics system, like when they first showed off the Gamecube. That would be sweet, and different! :)

[Bowser_Koopa]

i'm msorry to disapoint you but i think my brother told me that they are not :(

[Taloniss]

Boo :(

[Peanut]

Yeah. It's pretty much confirmed that they're using the same engine for the next Zelda game as they used for WW. Mostly because it's a direct sequel to WW. I'm expecting a realistic Zelda for the next Nintendo console.

[impetus]

I like Wind Waker... I hated the N64 games, but mostly due to how bad the system looks in general - a blurry, distorted, mess.

Whereas Wind Waker is clean, sharp, and very stylistic.

I'll give OOT and MM another go on the Gamecube - I understand they look somewhat improved.

[Bowser_Koopa]

I like Wind Waker... I hated the N64 games, but mostly due to how bad the system looks in general - a blurry, distorted, mess.

Whereas Wind Waker is clean, sharp, and very stylistic.

I'll give OOT and MM another go on the Gamecube - I understand they look somewhat improved.

you should tell that to my brother, out loud please U_U

[JameO]

Yeah I like the Wind Waker is a great game very good. And also to Ben: Come on. Sports games don't deserve to be number one unless they are awesome and a brand new game like some sport that doesn't even exist but they made one up. Although that might be none worthy too. There is no story to the game just a regular football game nothing different other than better graphics and better play and rosters. Special features here and there. Is there a place to find the new zelda game they will be making or any site that has the information for it? Not Wind Waker the sequel.

[GK Punk]

Windwaker's graphics were great IMO. I never did finish that game, but Im sure I will eventually.

They are going to replay that award show in a little bit, after Raw ends so I might watch it. Atleast to see the Jericho Vs rey Mysterio match.

[Dr. Doom]

I'm not bothered by N64's graphics that much. Afterall, Ocarina of Time is my favorite game ever.

[impetus]

Really? My guess would have been...

DOOM!


bwa ha ha ha!!!

[Peanut]

Yeah it's kinda funny. When you look back on SNES and even the NES the games don't look that bad, but then you look back at N64 and PSX and go...WTF!?! Most all the games are just blurry jumbles of colour. 64 and PSX graphics REALLY don't stand the test of time.

[Bowser_Koopa]

except maybe for crash 3, it's graphics always amezed me, and for n64 maybe turok 2, but i haven't played it much so i don't know

[impetus]

well, that's half true. Most 3-D games look like crap on N64, PS1, Saturn, etc. But 2-D games (which is also the bulk of your SNES and NES titles, for fair comparison) look fantastic. Check out Astal (Saturn), Castlevania SOTN (PS1), or Kirby 64. These games look great!

[Dr. Doom]

Five games I can think of off the toppa my head that still have good graphics in my opinion (for PSX and N64) are Final Fantasy VIII & IX, Perfect Dark, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.

[That Matt Guy]

Burger Time has the best graphics ever.

[Voltron]

Pong's were better