Avengers The Kang Dynasty

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/CEYVVac.jpg

Just announced in Hall H:

Marvel Studios' Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, in theaters May 2, 2025. #SDCC2022

[Andrew NDB]

So that's confirmation that Kang the Conqueror only dips his toe into Ant-Man 3.

[Coola Yagami]

But the actual Avengers won't be in it though, possible exception Thor.

[ZariusTwo]

Finally, some actual direction for the franchise. Why we could not have gotten this slate in the first place is beyond me.

[Coola Yagami]

Finally, some actual direction for the franchise. Why we could not have gotten this slate in the first place is beyond me.

Diversity comes first. We needed the first Asian hero. The first diverse whatever the **** Eternals was. The first girl with two moms in Multiverse of Madness. Bisexual Valkyrie as King of Asgard. That was way more important.

And if we weren't allowed to say Loki was bi... bam, scrap the entire MCU.

[Autbot_Benz]

Destin Daniel Cretton, who helmed last year’s Marvel hit, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, has come aboard to direct Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, The Hollywood Reporter can exclusively reveal.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/avengers-the-kang-dynasty-to-be-directed-by-shang-chi-filmmaker-destin-daniel-cretton-exclusive-1235186348/

[AquaParade]

Interesting that they don't mention Secret Wars. Maybe these two films aren't connected in the same way that Endgame & Infinity War are?

Or maybe not.

I've seen Shang-Chi once. Thought it was okay until I nearly fell asleep in the third-act. Hard to blame the director for that at this point. I think I'll try to watch Shang-Chi again though.

[CyberCubed]

Diversity comes first. We needed the first Asian hero. The first diverse whatever the **** Eternals was. The first girl with two moms in Multiverse of Madness. Bisexual Valkyrie as King of Asgard. That was way more important.

And if we weren't allowed to say Loki was bi... bam, scrap the entire MCU.

Eternals had an Indian and Muslim superhero, and the first on-screen gay kiss.

[Sumac]

Shang Chi was generic as they come - pretty picture, good actors, ****** script, which killed advantage of the first two things.
So, I guess, if script is good, movie will be good.

However, with next to zero build up, I don't think it will have the same effect as IW/EG.

[ZariusTwo]

Jeff Loveness, screenwriter for Quantamania, is writing Avengers The Kang Dynasty

https://deadline.com/2022/09/marvel-jeff-loveness-avengers-kang-dynasty-1235118412/

[ZariusTwo]

Rumour is Jeff Loveless has been dropped as the writer following the reception of Quantamania

[neatoman]

Rumour is Jeff Loveless has been dropped as the writer following the reception of Quantamania

But aren't many of the story problem due to reshoots and not the script he provided? Sure, the script itself likely had problems but if the stuff people complain about stem from the production deciding to deviate from it, then you shouldn't blame the writer for that.

[Coola Yagami]

But aren't many of the story problem due to reshoots and not the script he provided? Sure, the script itself likely had problems but if the stuff people complain about stem from the production deciding to deviate from it, then you shouldn't blame the writer for that.

Someone's head needed to roll, so he was the fall guy. You know the woke types never ever blame themselves. It's 'never their fault'.

[Sumac]

Someone's head needed to roll, so he was the fall guy. You know the woke types never ever blame themselves. It's 'never their fault'.
Its less "woke" and more how corporations roll.

[Autbot_Benz]

AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY
Previously dated on 5/2/25 moves to 5/1/26

https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/marvel-studios-announces-updates-to-theatrical-release-schedule

[Andrew NDB]

AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY
Previously dated on 5/2/25 moves to 5/1/26

Um... that's quite a bump.

[Sumac]

Guess, recasting Kang is in the works, or they just hope that Majors won't be ruined though and through.

[ZariusTwo]

Majors trial set for August

https://deadline.com/2023/06/jonathan-majors-trial-domestiv-violence-charges-creed-marvel-1235420570/

[Coola Yagami]

This movie as will underperform unless they have a ticket selling gimmick like RDJ returning or something.

Yeah, and Avengers movie without the actual Avengers in it will be a tough sell. I mean, if they wanted to go with Kamala and the rest, call it Young Avengers or something.

[Andrew NDB]

Probably it will be black Captain America, Thor, Hulk and She-Hulk, the Marvels, Shang-Chi, and Captain Two Moms with the most important part. And we'll likely get Evil RDJ Iron Man and SOME kind of Steve Rogers something. Rocket's new Guardians might show up, too.

[Galactus]

We don't know how true it will be to the comic story of the same name but you could tell that story with almost any combination of Avengers. Strangely of all the talk about the roster I haven't seen anyone anywhere mention we've got an 80s Avengers mainstays in the MCU now.

Monica Rambeau
Namor
Sersi
Black Knight
She-Hulk
Hercules
Moon Knight
Vision (white variant)
Wanda will certainly be back and we've got Wonder Man incoming.

I imagine if they can tempt RDJ and/or Chris Evans back they will save them for Secret Wars.

[member_removed]

Guess, recasting Kang is in the works, or they just hope that Majors won't be ruined though and through.

Drop him and recast, He'll be box office poison, see Eraz Miller.

This movie as will underperform unless they have a ticket selling gimmick like RDJ returning or something.

Even the return of Michael Keaton isn't helping at DC. But I would assume RDJ returning would be a much bigger deal.

Just recast, Unless Majors has an Iron clad contract. Like a 4-5 movie pay or play deal. But I can't see Disney offering him an A-list salary anyways.

[ZariusTwo]

No Marvel Studios panel at Comic Con Hall H this year

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvel-studios-skipping-comic-con-1235520144/

[IMJ]

No Marvel Studios panel at Comic Con Hall H this year

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvel-studios-skipping-comic-con-1235520144/

It must be to protect people from the misogyny. There is no other explanation.

[Sumac]

And now it is without a director. (https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1724876382298333186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1724876382298333186%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=)
Ouch.

[TheCanadiandrome]

It could be without a lot of things soon lol. Marvel is a goddamn mess atm

[Sumac]

Majors is basically finished (as an actor and a respectable person). (https://people.com/jonathan-majors-appears-to-admit-physically-attacking-ex-grace-jabbari-in-text-messages-entered-into-evidence-8413470)
So, its either recast or rewrite.

[Andrew NDB]

Recast. With all the variant crap it wouldn't even be hard to come up with an in-story explanation for why he suddenly looks different. And hell, we still haven't even met the "Real" Kang yet.

"I don't deserve it. I should just kill myself." Yeesh.

[Coola Yagami]

Recast. With all the variant crap it wouldn't even be hard to come up with an in-story explanation for why he suddenly looks different. And hell, we still haven't even met the "Real" Kang yet.

"I don't deserve it. I should just kill myself." Yeesh.

Good. Let him follow the same rules as everybody else. They sure don't hesitate to fire someone 'on the wrong side of history' when they **** up. Do to the same to 'one of their own'.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Majors is basically finished (as an actor and a respectable person). (https://people.com/jonathan-majors-appears-to-admit-physically-attacking-ex-grace-jabbari-in-text-messages-entered-into-evidence-8413470)
So, its either recast or rewrite.

Yikes! Wow, just wow

[Sumac]

I'd prefer if they removed Kang entirely.
I don't know about comic books, but even I new who Thanos and Doom are. This guy...not so much.

[Andrew NDB]

I'd prefer if they removed Kang entirely.
I don't know about comic books, but even I new who Thanos and Doom are. This guy...not so much.

I feel about him like the Inhumans. With the Inhumans, I know they're a big force in Marvel and had a failed TV show... but I don't know anything about them in the comics or anything so I don't care beyond knowing I probably would care if I knew more about them. Same with Kang. I don't know anything about him other than I know he's a big deal in the comics and now Jonathan Majors is causing toxicity problems for the character.

I mean, they've already committed to things steering towards a full-on Kang thing so they can't just suddenly be like, "Nah, just kidding." But what they can do is now make the "full-on Kang thing" just a side thing on the way to a bigger thing with Dr. Doom or Galactus or something.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I'd prefer if they removed Kang entirely.
I don't know about comic books, but even I new who Thanos and Doom are. This guy...not so much.

Yea same with me

[neatoman]

Yea same with me

Oh boy, this is going to be fun to explain. Short version, he is the alleged descendant of Reed Richards and/or Doctor Doom and because he's a time traveller with the whole "advanced technology might as well be magic" thing going on, he keeps running into himself from different eras using different aliases to reflect his current ideals and can come into conflict with them. You can kind of think of him as the Doctor from Doctor Who if he couldn't get along with his various incarnations.

Now for the weird stuff. He has had these various identities and may have even more:

Iron Lad
Kid Immortus
Rama-Tut
Scarlet Centurion
Kang
Mister Gryphon
Doctor Doom (don't worry, Victor Von Doom is a separate character)
Victor Timely
Immortus (not quite the same as Kid Immortus)


In order for all of this to make sense, they explain that he tends to get mindwiped, split into paradox copies and simply reverts back to previous alter egos. Oh and of course, he also meets straight up alternate reality counterparts of himself who are not part of the time travel thing but have their own time travel thing going on. And because the Scarlet Centurion has a counterpart as an enemy of the Squadron Supreme, who are themselves pastiches of the Justice League, it's possible he's also a pseudo-counterpart to Metron, Chronos, Per Degaton, Thawne or Vandal Savage. Then there is also bizarre nonsense like how he was used to retcon the Vision from simply being an android created by Ultron, to instead being… Ugh… A time travel paradox duplicate of the original Human Torch reprogrammed with a copy of Wonder Man's mind as his AI.
A bit of a tangent here, as annoying as the retcons regarding Vision's origin (I really doubt anyone would have felt Vision was less interesting if he was just a creation of Ultron with no other additional connections to other characters), what really irks me is the fact that they didn't bother to make the one the connection they should have. The Vision is very clearly based on a previous Golden Age character that is also called Vision, has a similar design and even similar powers. Despite the very obvious similarities, it has never been explained why Silver Age Vision resembles Golden Age Vision so much, yet they still arbitrarily chose to make him a duplicate of two other characters who he didn't need to be connected to at all.

The MCU seems to have simplified all this to just make the alternate versions of him alternate universe counterparts instead of the same exact person travelling through time, but he is still a weird choice because the mere fact that the entire gimmick is about him having alternate counterparts, will invariably make things complicated.

The whole thing about the alternate identities also means that if you are only familiar with Marvel through adaptations, you'd probably never know this guy is in Earth's Mightiest Heroes, X-Men TAS and X-Men Evolution, simply because he uses different identities in each.

[Coola Yagami]

The whole thing about the alternate identities also means that if you are only familiar with Marvel through adaptations, you'd probably never know this guy is in both Earth's Mightiest Heroes, X-Men TAS and X-Men Evolution, simply because he uses different identities in each.

Explain? I don't remember him in X-Men TAS or Evolution?

[Sumac]

I feel like all this venture in the multiverse was to establish Kang. But Marvel did such a ****** job with it, so they barely established it beyond a useless gimmick and failed to establish Kang as serious and a persistent threat, unlike Thanos.

In general, from what I've read, Kang is so confusing as a character, its better to replace him with someone less confusing.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Explain? I don't remember him in X-Men TAS or Evolution?

IN Apocalypse's backstory episode in ancient Egypt, Kang appears in his rama tut incarnation.No mention of him also being kang.

https://x-menevolution.fandom.com/wiki/Rama-Tut

[neatoman]

Explain? I don't remember him in X-Men TAS or Evolution?

IN Apocalypse's backstory episode in ancient Egypt, Kang appears in his rama tut incarnation.No mention of him also being kang.

https://x-menevolution.fandom.com/wiki/Rama-Tut

Yup. As for X-Men TAS, he's in the episode "End and Beginning" in which he first shows up as a seemingly original character but right at the end her turns into his Immortus Persona. X-Men TAS was a bit weird about using other Marvel characters, Spider-Man TAS may have used the X-Men from X-Men TAS for several episodes but X-Men TAS itself was only allowed to show Spider-Man's hand.

[Coola Yagami]

I feel like all this venture in the multiverse was to establish Kang. But Marvel did such a ****** job with it, so they barely established it beyond a useless gimmick and failed to establish Kang as serious and a persistent threat, unlike Thanos.

In general, from what I've read, Kang is so confusing as a character, its better to replace him with someone less confusing.

Honestly if they wanted to do that, we needed some Thanos-ish scenes here and there to tie em together.

Like Dr. Strange's movie dealt with the multiverse directly. They really needed some end-scene or cameo of Kang saying something like 'the poor fools don't know what they're trifling with'.

Of course that would only have made things more awkward when the actor would get in trouble years later.....

[Andrew NDB]

I feel like all this venture in the multiverse was to establish Kang. But Marvel did such a ****** job with it, so they barely established it beyond a useless gimmick and failed to establish Kang as serious and a persistent threat, unlike Thanos.

In general, from what I've read, Kang is so confusing as a character, its better to replace him with someone less confusing.

And the Quantumania appearance didn't even make sense. If you're a Kang from the Quantum Realm within a certain Earth, doesn't that still make you the Kang of that Earth? And if we're to believe other Kangs weren't created until female Loki killed him at the End of Time, how was the Quantum Realm Kang stranded there for so long?

[Sumac]

Yup. As for X-Men TAS, he's in the episode "End and Beginning" in which he first shows up as a seemingly original character but right at the end her turns into his Immortus Persona. X-Men TAS was a bit weird about using other Marvel characters, Spider-Man TAS may have used the X-Men from X-Men TAS for several episodes but X-Men TAS itself was only allowed to show Spider-Man's hand.
I remember, there was an episode, which a lot of silent cameos from other Marvel characters and Spider-Man was there crawling along the wall or something. Or was it another series?

Of course that would only have made things more awkward when the actor would get in trouble years later.....
Should have just make him green or CGI him, up until his appearance as a proper character, like wit Thanos. Would have saved a lot of troubles.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/QAMSZi6.jpg

[IMJ]

More of what happens in the culture of "woke". Glad you posted the picture though - some clown-wage-employee here might think he's changing the world by demanding a "source" for this news that couldn't possibly be true. :roll:

[Sumac]

More from Deadline. (https://deadline.com/2023/12/jonathan-majors-marvel-fired-guilty-verdict-1235671790/)
Now, it will be interesting to see what Disney will do with Kang.

[IMJ]

More from Deadline. (https://deadline.com/2023/12/jonathan-majors-marvel-fired-guilty-verdict-1235671790/)
Now, it will be interesting to see what Disney will do with Kang.

What they should do is age him, call him "Immortus" and get Denzel Washington to play him considering that
A) they already "woked" Kang up on film
and
B) Denzel is a neverending super star of coolness

It's a solution.

[TigerClaw]

The Kang Dynasty is now being referred to as Avengers 5.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvel-drops-jonathan-majors-as-kang-1235391129/
Marvel has two courses it could take now. It could recast the part, although it is not clear how many actors would be attracted to a role from which one actor was so publicly fired. The other course is to redevelop its plans and refocus on a brand new villain. While Marvel sources are mum, there is indication that the studio has already been doing just that. In November, Marvel hired Loki creator Michael Waldron to work on a new draft of what was to have been Kang Dynasty, but is now being referred to as Avengers 5, according to sources.

[robertfiduciary]

And is the "clown-wage-employee" in the room with you right now? :roll:

As someone in a relationship where, between us, we hold just over 1,000 shares of Disney stock (with a cost basis of just under $25. So, yes. The last few years have been disappointing, but we're more than fine with the growth over the years. Plus, they just reinstated the dividend. So maybe some rocky waters, still. But we'll be fine), I've read every Disney financial report the company has issued since the Marvel purchase (Todd got his Disney stock as a gift from his wonderful Grandmother. Mine came from owning Marvel stock).

As for "clown-wage," well. That's pretty rich from a guy who apparently has all the time in the world to sit at a computer and type. The. Same. F*cking. Thing. Every. Single. Day. Like some sad, modern Don Quixote (that's a book character from a book you've probably never read. But keep tilting at those windmills, little slugger).

Einstein said insanity was doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results. I feel... well, we're all probably guilty of that a bit.
Wouldn't you agree, "IMJ?"

And if you wouldn't, here's a FUN LITTLE EXPERIMENT you can try!

1. Go to the search function of this very website

2. Search the words "peasant" or "peasant-thinker" or "woke."

3. See how many times you, and you alone, decided to sit down and write out the same viewpoint, about the same issues, day after day, months after month, year after year. I mean, none of us are getting any younger. Unless you're a vampire. But if you are, I doubt you'd care much about any of this.

So, yeah. Have fun with that. And there's nothing wrong with asking for sources in the age of AI, deepfakes, and often delusional claims. It's called trust, but verify. I'm surprised you don't approve, considering it was Republican God Ronald Reagan who made it popular.

And, what's more: financially, we're doing fine. House is paid off. Cars (both Toyota Corollas) paid off. Investments in great shape. Our relationship is great. Still considering a move cross country next year, but we'll see.

Also *toying* with the idea of tying the knot, but... a lot of the future of the country (and our rights) feels real "up in the air" still. Don't want to spend all the money, only to have the moment stolen after.

So, we'll see. But, yeah. Maybe find a different hobby? Woodworking? Bird watching? There's so much more to do in this world then just being a P.I.G. (Todd made that up. It stands for "Perpetual Internet Guy").

Love,

Rob


More of what happens in the culture of "woke". Glad you posted the picture though - some clown-wage-employee here might think he's changing the world by demanding a "source" for this news that couldn't possibly be true. :roll:

[XERO]

Feel better?

[IMJ]

Feel better?

:lol::lol::lol:

The Kang Dynasty is now being referred to as Avengers 5.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvel-drops-jonathan-majors-as-kang-1235391129/

I'm sure it will get another name change as time goes on.

Right now they are more concerned with their flop-in-the-making, "Woke Captain America" that was prepared to lecture people even more than it did in it's T.V. show.

In the meantime I'll be finding more and more clever ways to define and describe your average peasant thinker in clear and concise ways.

[Andrew NDB]

Also *toying* with the idea of tying the knot, but... a lot of the future of the country (and our rights) feels real "up in the air" still. Don't want to spend all the money, only to have the moment stolen after.

hahahahahahahahaha!!! :lol:

[neatoman]

So like... Recast or a different character? If the latter, then which character would be reasonably similar to Kang to fill a similar role? Apocalypse? Beyonder? Galactus? Unless of course they just scrap the current direction entirely...

[XERO]

It just sucks because I was enjoying this guy's career so much. Not just in MCU, but overall.

[ZariusTwo]

I remember, there was an episode, which a lot of silent cameos from other Marvel characters and Spider-Man was there crawling along the wall or something. Or was it another series?

You're right, Spidey (or at least his arm) made a cameo in the Phoenix Saga finale. His clone Scarlet Spider also cameoed at one point.

[Andrew NDB]

So like... Recast or a different character? If the latter, then which character would be reasonably similar to Kang to fill a similar role? Apocalypse? Beyonder? Galactus? Unless of course they just scrap the current direction entirely...

MY hope is that they just recast and include the "real" Kang in whatever big Avengers 5 stuff is going on, but also have another heavy.

Kudos to Marvel/Disney, though, for at least sticking by Majors until he was found guilty in a court of law and not just the court of public opinion. This will probably f*** up Michael B. Jordan's plans for Creed 4, too... he was definitely going to come back as supporting cast in it. Now he just has Victor Drago and that's it, unless Winkler somehow makes nice with Stallone. You can recast superheroes but recasting wouldn't really work in something like the Rocky/Creed films.

[Sumac]

And is the "clown-wage-employee" in the room with you right now? :roll:

As someone in a relationship where, between us, we hold just over 1,000 shares of Disney stock (with a cost basis of just under $25. So, yes. The last few years have been disappointing, but we're more than fine with the growth over the years. Plus, they just reinstated the dividend. So maybe some rocky waters, still. But we'll be fine), I've read every Disney financial report the company has issued since the Marvel purchase (Todd got his Disney stock as a gift from his wonderful Grandmother. Mine came from owning Marvel stock). ...
You are rambling like an A class schizoid.

You need a ****ing doctor, man.
Like now.

[IMJ]

You are rambling like an A class schizoid.

You need a ****ing doctor, man.
Like now.

You are trying to talk to a Technodromer who is trying to prove that he has an "investor presence" by owning 1,000 shares of Disney stock. That right there is evidence of the kind of phony @$$wipe you are conversing with. Any investor worth anything or with any research time under his belt would not dig in deep on Disney in this climate for .15 a share, and would have known better than to by-in during a social-agenda-movement by the company.

Probably inherited 15 grand from his Grandmother and thought he was changing his family's trajectory by investing it in Disney stock. And then proud enough to use 1,000 shares of Disney stock as a prove-tool on the Technodrome forums. :roll::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Guy uses a username like "robert fiduciary" to project some kind of 'knowledge" to anyone who sees his name but I've yet to see him ever post anything of reason outside of circular "REEEEEE!!!! I MUST BE RIGHT!" liberal arguments. His username should be "Notary Public" - busy witnessing and signing off on life-angry liberal tears. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

So let him ramble. He has literally never, not once made a cogent, respect earning post. :lol:

[XERO]

Now he just has Victor Creed and that's it

Victor Creed. Hahahaha. :lol:

Creed III was amazing, and Majors carried that film. Even if Dame was gonna be a supporting character in IV, it might just get reduced to a name mention and that's being lenient.

I dunno, man, it's just sad. Guilty or not guilty, evidence or no evidence, judicial system all be damned, he dug a hole too deep to climb out of.

[oldmanwinters]

Brilliant!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1Cs7IIu4XS/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://i.imgur.com/YUKuzr1.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

Brilliant!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1Cs7IIu4XS/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://i.imgur.com/YUKuzr1.jpg

I'd be OK with that, honestly. I saw some pretty convincing Denzel mockups, too, but there's 0 chance he would agree to it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

So like... Recast or a different character? If the latter, then which character would be reasonably similar to Kang to fill a similar role? Apocalypse? Beyonder? Galactus? Unless of course they just scrap the current direction entirely...

I've heard/read rumors of Doctor Doom, but I don't think he's a major threat the likes of those you listed for sure. I do think they'll most likely recast

[Sumac]

I've heard/read rumors of Doctor Doom, but I don't think he's a major threat the likes of those you listed for sure. I do think they'll most likely recast
Wut?
Doom is absolutely one of the biggest villains in Marvel.
And comparatively well-known unlike Kang.

[ZariusTwo]

I've heard/read rumors of Doctor Doom, but I don't think he's a major threat the likes of those you listed for sure. I do think they'll most likely recast

Doom can literally harness the powers of the goddamn Silver Surfer if he chooses to. He was the God to beat in the original and 2015 versions of Secret Wars.

[Autbot_Benz]

Go with Doom instead I can't take a Kang seriously who got their ass handed to them by Ant-Man of all people

[Andrew NDB]

I'm sure someone can answer, but I'm still not quite sure why Kang the Conqueror (who we technically haven't even met yet) is so powerful. It seems to me he's... just a guy with slightly above-normal strength and maybe like Steve Rogers-esque durable skin, with a tech suit and nasty ideas about what to do to the good guys.

[IMJ]

I'm sure someone can answer, but I'm still not quite sure why Kang the Conqueror (who we technically haven't even met yet) is so powerful. It seems to me he's... just a guy with slightly above-normal strength and maybe like Steve Rogers-esque durable skin, with a tech suit and nasty ideas about what to do to the good guys.

He works outside of the time stream and because of that has multiplied lifetimes of existence and experience not only though being long-lived, but also by seeing time differently and being able to discuss it with other versions of himself. He is basically "legion" in a way that no other characters are.

Imagine the Avengers fighting an all out war against an entire army hand-picked from time by Kang, the war lasting for a year and then the Avengers win - exhausted and absolutely scattered, but they win. And minutes after they win, broken and battered, while discussing rebuilding, Kang shows up all over again with an entirely new army that the Avengers previously took a year to fight off. And so a new war starts again moments after the Avengers ended the last one, but from Kang's perspective he had retreated, 100 years to plan and regroup and comes back as if nothing ever happened.

Kang can be an incredibly complex character to dive into if you get past "guy from future with crazy tech" thing.

[Sumac]

He is basically an RPG player who constantly goes through New Game+ and then New Game ++ and so on. And he can recruit past version of himself into a party.

[Andrew NDB]

Hm, OK. Seems like a good choice for "The Multiversal Saga," then. Seems like a difficult character to hate/root against/wish the good guys to vanquish, though. Thanos, we knew he was gathering up gems and we had a pretty good idea of what that meant from the comics -- better stop him! Kang, he's going to... eh... do what, exactly? Gather a bunch of duplicates of himself and take over the world or something?

[TigerClaw]

I'm sure someone can answer, but I'm still not quite sure why Kang the Conqueror (who we technically haven't even met yet) is so powerful. It seems to me he's... just a guy with slightly above-normal strength and maybe like Steve Rogers-esque durable skin, with a tech suit and nasty ideas about what to do to the good guys.
The thing is, That wasn't the real Kang, He's just a variant who was banished by the Counsel of Kang for being too crazy.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Wut?
Doom is absolutely one of the biggest villains in Marvel.
And comparatively well-known unlike Kang.

Well yea I didn’t say he wasn’t well known compared to Kang, I just said he wasn’t as big a threat, but since someone already pointed out I was wrong on that front, I stand corrected.

Doom can literally harness the powers of the goddamn Silver Surfer if he chooses to. He was the God to beat in the original and 2015 versions of Secret Wars.

Tbh I’ve never read any comics with him in it, so I was basing my statement on versions I’ve seen of Doom in cartoon and movie so i stand corrected sir

[TigerClaw]

If and when they bring in Dr Doom, They will more then likely do the storyline where he becomes God Emperor Doom.

[ZariusTwo]

Majors interview this morning


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[Andrew NDB]

Ehh... sounds like bullsh** to me. A lot of nonsense about his self-importance and completely irrelevant talk about "the culture." I'm well aware women can do pretty diabolical stuff to get back at a dude but I'm pretty doubtful that's what happened in this case.

[ZariusTwo]

I didn't even think it was that interesting, ABC promoted it pretty ominously over the weekend and ultimately it's pretty basic, doesn't ask any hard hitting questions, so he says nothing that can't be said without him

[Sumac]

His SMS messages are full on schizo, so I don't trust anything he has to say.

[BornAgain]

He is completely fake. Bizarre.

[Andrew NDB]

He is completely fake. Bizarre.

Right? I don't get a shred of "this is a real human being honest and open" through any of that.

[IMJ]

He is completely fake. Bizarre.

Well observed. Agreed.

[Andrew NDB]

The Russos turned down for Avengers 5?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/russos-turned-down-for-avengers-5/

[ZariusTwo]

The Russos turned down for Avengers 5?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/russos-turned-down-for-avengers-5/

Apparently they've been making stuff that have led to inflated budgets too

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently they've been making stuff that have led to inflated budgets too

And also... BAD movies. Everything on Netflix was horrible.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/Z906rnO.png

[Andrew NDB]

Majors is "heartbroken" about this.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/jonathan-majors-heartbroken-about-kang/