Alex Jones down $4M

[Mayhem]

Best get that GoFundMe running, or OnlyFans, or wrongly claim bankruptcy…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62427918

[neatoman]

Oh no! No Alex Jones! He's too valuable to lose, think of all the memes and remix videos we'll miss out on!?
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[1987]

Meet Maya Gamble, the judge who just ordered Alex Jones to pay $4.1 Million in damages

https://i.imgur.com/InX90RQ.png?1

[The Deadman]

Good, f*ck Alex Jones and the stupid **** he spews out of his mouth.

[Andrew NDB]

45.2 million, actually.

I don't like the guy and I think he's a loon and I agree what he said about Sandy Hook was nuts and in extremely bad taste. That said... his saying nutty stuff on his crazy talk show where he routinely says crazy stuff really caused the parents of the victims 45.2 million dollars in damages? What are the damages? Were they watching his show and it gave them panic attacks (if so, why were they watching it), or what are we saying here exactly?

Sure seems like an attack on free speech to me.

[Mayhem]

Yeah just seen, the $45M is on top, so close to $50M.

Some of what he was saying caused a few of his followers to level death threats et al at the parents, if that isn’t incitement, I don’t know what is. You can also say he profited from his lies too, although with the disclosure that he perjured himself AND has info on the Capitol attack, that’s more fire coming his way.

Saying this is against free speech is the same as cheering when someone Muslim brainwashed idiot pukes anti American kill the heretic infidel rhetoric really…

[IndigoErth]

A loss of money feels like no kind of justice. The fact that this creep gets rich off of hurting already hurt people, such as those parents of murdered kids, and feels totally okay with it is so despicably vile and makes me wish that hell was real. Rush Limbaugh needs to crawl his ass up from there and drag Alex Jones back down with him. The Alex Jones real life arc needs an Ebenezer Scrooge ending...without the redemption, just ends with the last visit.

[ChosenOne]

Meet Maya Gamble, the judge who just ordered Alex Jones to pay $4.1 Million in damages

https://i.imgur.com/InX90RQ.png?1

Nope, no bias there! :roll:

[Andrew NDB]

Some of what he was saying caused a few of his followers to level death threats et al at the parents, if that isn’t incitement, I don’t know what is.

Well what did he say? If he wasn't telling people to do that, or even something close to that (maybe he did? I don't know but I'm guessing no) then no, that isn't incitement.

[Mayhem]

It doesn’t have to cover that. Just the proof that what was said triggered the person in question to commit the acts. However incitement itself isn’t a criminal offence until what was directly being requested itself was illegal. So Alex Jones under law isn’t guilty of that.

[The Deadman]

Nope, no bias there! :roll:

The dude is an idiot, there's no bias. He deserved everything he got.

[member_removed]

He's a total $h!t c**t. He deserves everything that's coming to him.

[ChosenOne]

The dude is an idiot, there's no bias. He deserved everything he got.

And that woke joke of a judge makes two.

[1987]

Good, f*ck Alex Jones and the stupid **** he spews out of his mouth.

The dude is an idiot, there's no bias. He deserved everything he got.

He's a total $h!t c**t. He deserves everything that's coming to him.

This trial is one of the most openly biased, and bigoted, trials that the world has ever seen, up there with J6. Democratic Fascism at it’s finest. If it was truly about “spreading misinformation” than why haven’t CNN, Dr Fauci, Dr Birx, etc all had similar trials? They lie to the public all the time on mainstream media. I guess it’s (D)ifferent for them.

Clearly the NWO has a stronghold over this case, Sandy Hook is just the cover, what they’re really going after Mr. Jones for is because all his “conspiracy theories” are coming true. Watch “Endgame” where he predicts everything that is happening now. Watch “Obama Deception” where he exposes the truth about Hussein. He’s been exposing the New World Order, Biden, laptop, everything. This is how they silence him, he’s a bigger threat to the NWO than Trump. Trump has to hold back a bit since he’s a politician, but Mr. Jones just goes for the throat.

Y’all liberals think you’re part of the elite and that you’re “in on it”, but, hate to break it to you, you’re in for a big surprise.

Walk away from the Democratic Plantation, before it’s too late.

https://i.imgur.com/UJpbe8G.png?1

[ChosenOne]

That drawing is wildly inaccurate, in that leftards wouldn't even get a chance to beg.

[Autbot_Benz]

Wow 1987 actually believes What Alex Jones says. I am not surprised just more proof he is a mentally unstable lunatic :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

It doesn’t have to cover that. Just the proof that what was said triggered the person in question to commit the acts.

No, that's not the way that works. No one can control what triggers anybody to do anything. Unless you're saying "Do this act! Now!" that's not a real thing.

Same as Trump's "incitement" to cause a non-insurrection when he just said march peacefully.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The man with the gun in the drawing looks like Benito Mussolini.

[ChosenOne]

The man with the gun in the drawing looks like Benito Mussolini.

I can't say who the useful idiot looks like 'cause it would probably get me banned.

[The Deadman]

This trial is one of the most openly biased, and bigoted, trials that the world has ever seen, up there with J6. Democratic Fascism at it’s finest. If it was truly about “spreading misinformation” than why haven’t CNN, Dr Fauci, Dr Birx, etc all had similar trials? They lie to the public all the time on mainstream media. I guess it’s (D)ifferent for them.

Clearly the NWO has a stronghold over this case, Sandy Hook is just the cover, what they’re really going after Mr. Jones for is because all his “conspiracy theories” are coming true. Watch “Endgame” where he predicts everything that is happening now. Watch “Obama Deception” where he exposes the truth about Hussein. He’s been exposing the New World Order, Biden, laptop, everything. This is how they silence him, he’s a bigger threat to the NWO than Trump. Trump has to hold back a bit since he’s a politician, but Mr. Jones just goes for the throat.

Y’all liberals think you’re part of the elite and that you’re “in on it”, but, hate to break it to you, you’re in for a big surprise.

Walk away from the Democratic Plantation, before it’s too late.

https://i.imgur.com/UJpbe8G.png?1

Not a liberal, you buffoon, you would know that if youve seen my posts in previous political threads. Point is he f*cked around and found out what happens when you tell parents who lost their kids that they're liars. Cope.

[The Deadman]

And that woke joke of a judge makes two.

A right wing judge would have made the same decision.

[Andrew NDB]

Point is he f*cked around and found out what happens when you tell parents who lost their kids that they're liars.

But, that's not a crime. It's a horrible thing to do, of course.

[The Deadman]

But, that's not a crime. It's a horrible thing to do, of course.

He's not going to jail over this though, he's just being sued. Not every court case is criminal.

[Andrew NDB]

He's not going to jail over this though, he's just being sued. Not every court case is criminal.

So the right to free speech... but you might have to pay money if you say something that isn't even inciteful in and of itself? You're just one bleeding heart liberal judge away from owing millions?

I don't care if Alex Jones gets hit by a car tomorrow but I don't like the precedent this sets.

[Galactus]

These are also defamation cases. So he's not being sued for encouraging his audience of insane idiots to go harass the families of the Sandy Hook victims he's being sued for lying that they were 'crisis actors'. The fact that they've been harassed and threatened for years is the consequence of his lies.

[Andrew NDB]

These are also defamation cases. So he's not being sued for encouraging his audience of insane idiots to go harass the families of the Sandy Hook victims he's being sued for lying that they were 'crisis actors'. The fact that they've been harassed and threatened for years is the consequence of his lies.

Well, if we're strictly talking in terms of defamation of character, slander and/or libel then yes. Though I'd like to see a quantification of how Alex Jones did 45 million dollars worth of damage to them.

[The Deadman]

So the right to free speech... but you might have to pay money if you say something that isn't even inciteful in and of itself? You're just one bleeding heart liberal judge away from owing millions?

I don't care if Alex Jones gets hit by a car tomorrow but I don't like the precedent this sets.

You also dont have the right to tell a parent their kid isnt dead and keep pushing that narrative on national radio/television/whatever else without consequence. That sets a bad precedent as well.

[ChosenOne]

A right wing judge would have made the same decision.

A right-wing judge making a non-biased decision with similar results doesn't mean this one wasn't biased.

[Mayhem]

Dr Evil pinky in mouth moment :o:lol:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63237092

[Prowler]

Alex Jones is just another person who's "famous" and gets way more attention than they deserve. Just like most "internet celebrities" nowadays.

I had no idea who the hell Andrew Tate was until some weeks ago when everyone on social media suddenly began talking about him.

I'm starting to think youtube was a mistake.

[The Deadman]

This is your reminder that it's probably not a good idea to get on every social platform you're apart of to tell parents that their kids aren't actually dead and that everything was a hoax.

Then when the parents are tired of your sh*t and go the legal route, you tell them it's all part of the act. Alex Jones is the real crisis actor here.

[Andrew NDB]

You also dont have the right to tell a parent their kid isnt dead and keep pushing that narrative on national radio/television/whatever else without consequence.

I mean, don't you? If I start a podcast and push the idea that the crew of the Challenger didn't really blow up, they went into a wormhole and are alive in another part of the galaxy... I should be fined millions? How, if we're being serious about free speech?

I could understand if what I'm saying is somehow causing a financial blow to someone, then there could be a case there for "damages." But you'd have to have a pretty good case and actually show that.

[Leo656]

People sue and win for "intentional infliction of emotional distress" all the time, as well as "instigation of harassment". Many of the victims' parents have been stalked and harassed and had violent threats made against them, and when questioned about it the stalkers and harassers always say, with pride, "I heard it on Alex Jones."

You can't with a straight face say this guy is somehow blameless. Nor he is the kind of guy who deserves even one shred of defense or benefit of the doubt. He's a grifter, he gets rich peddling misery. That's his one and only function; hiding behind "free speech" doesn't make him any less of a parasite.

[mrmaczaps]

45.2 million, actually.

I don't like the guy and I think he's a loon and I agree what he said about Sandy Hook was nuts and in extremely bad taste. That said... his saying nutty stuff on his crazy talk show where he routinely says crazy stuff really caused the parents of the victims 45.2 million dollars in damages? What are the damages? Were they watching his show and it gave them panic attacks (if so, why were they watching it), or what are we saying here exactly?

Sure seems like an attack on free speech to me.

It is an attack on free speech... nothing more. Its all hype & bullsh*t and it should terrify EVERY (sane) person. Anyone applauding this is applauding their own end & those people are fvcking stupid. Get in the box car peasant.

[mrmaczaps]

You also dont have the right to tell a parent their kid isnt dead and keep pushing that narrative on national radio/television/whatever else without consequence. That sets a bad precedent as well.

Bullsh*t. You either believe in freedom or you don't. Sounds like you don't.

[The Deadman]

Bullsh*t. You either believe in freedom or you don't. Sounds like you don't.

Sounds like you're okay with pushing a false narrative and then having a fanbase harass the people you're pushing the narrative on, on the basis of "free speech". Sounds something like a Democrat would be for.

[The Deadman]

People sue and win for "intentional infliction of emotional distress" all the time, as well as "instigation of harassment". Many of the victims' parents have been stalked and harassed and had violent threats made against them, and when questioned about it the stalkers and harassers always say, with pride, "I heard it on Alex Jones."

You can't with a straight face say this guy is somehow blameless. Nor he is the kind of guy who deserves even one shred of defense or benefit of the doubt. He's a grifter, he gets rich peddling misery. That's his one and only function; hiding behind "free speech" doesn't make him any less of a parasite.

This. But you know, the crybabies are gonna go "Its an attack on free speech!" Cry harder.

[Andrew NDB]

Looked into this a little more. So apparently we're talking about Jones originally talking about this conspiracy theory a grand total of about 24 minutes over a couple shows almost a decade ago before he pretty quickly apologized (apparently 12 times, and long before there was any talk of a lawsuit), said he was wrong and never brought it up ever again. Also, he never brought up any of the parents' names or anything. It was Hillary's people who dredged up those 24 minutes to wave around in the media to try and use it as a smear against Trump, by association, in 2016.

So yeah. There wasn't any damages. Maybe by Hillary's people, for dredging up the aforementioned 24 minutes and making that front page news everywhere and repeatedly.

People sue and win for "intentional infliction of emotional distress" all the time, as well as "instigation of harassment".

See "frivolous lawsuits."

Many of the victims' parents have been stalked and harassed and had violent threats made against them, and when questioned about it the stalkers and harassers always say, with pride, "I heard it on Alex Jones."

Yeah, that's been debunked. He didn't tell or suggest anyone to do anything like that and there aren't any quotes to that end. This is the same as "Trump directed people to storm the capitol!" when there is nothing in what he said to remotely suggest that. Might as well be "the Devil made me do it."

Meaningless.

You can't with a straight face say this guy is somehow blameless.

"Blame" implies there is some act that there would either be responsibility or innocence from. What are we talking about here? Blame in what? Parents claiming they're damaged somehow and need to be multi millionaires now because of what someone said on a podcast known to be nutty for 24 minutes almost ten years ago? Give me a break.

[IMJ]

But, that's not a crime. It's a horrible thing to do, of course.

It's a social judgement - but you know what? I think he should pay something to those families for digging in so deeply on his conspiracy theories. But I also think the judgements against him are way too steep and outlandish.

Basically Jones became the public face for vengeance from the life-angry over a terrible event, even in this thread you can tell by some of the pathetic posters jerking themselves off over their strange "win". So Jones should pay those families because there likely was some form of slander and libel involved. But Jones didn't kill anybody and he was ordered to pay way too much money to those people, as if he did kill someone.

To anyone getting a serotonin boost from this news - be careful you life-angry, fist-pumping f&(ks. The social-crediting will come for you more easily - after all you are just another peasant @$$hole like the rest of us and not rich and powerful like Loudmouth Alex Jones. If the mob got him for a billion, it will easily get you for your nonsense. The only difference is that it will be through small-action sabotage and finger-pointing... you know... to match your life-levels.

As with all things I look for the real when people communicate - opinions don't bother me at all, but it's different when you can see the truth of people that the opinions are covering up. They make caricatures out of these people in movies... or at least they used to...

https://i.imgur.com/Zp03zfb.gif

[Leo656]

So because "free speech", people should be allowed to very loudly and repeatedly lie, even after those lies have incited other people towards violence and harassment, because "lying and spreading disinformation is a victimless crime"? Bullsh*t.

You guys are seriously f*cking cracked with this far-right stuff. It's not an all-or-nothing game. When you can clearly SEE a person is as spectacularly full of sh*t as someone like Alex Jones, and that his disciples take his rhetoric to the ugliest of extremes, you can't in good conscience continue to sit there and defend them by saying "Well he can technically say whatever he wants to!"

Lawsuits are how you try and correct this kind of thing in a society that insists you can't punch someone in the face for being an unrepentant asshole. Ideally, violence would be acceptable in this kind of situation when it's abundantly clear that the guy in question is doing no good whatsoever on this Earth. But since you can't legally smack them, you have to smack them through the legal system itself. It's the only way it stops.

Liars cannot be allowed to lie, especially when their lies have an enormous trickle-down effect on other people.

I'm not even gonna front, if I was a parent and one of MY kids had been killed in a school shooting, and some scumbag like this was going around saying "Nah, never happened," I 100% would have killed the guy already myself. These people suing him are way, WAY nicer than I am. Whatever losses he accrues are a much lighter penalty than a guy like him deserves.

Y'all need better f*cking heroes, man. Alex f*cking Jones of all people. Jesus.



"Blame" implies there is some act that there would either be responsibility or innocence from. What are we talking about here? Blame in what? Parents claiming they're damaged somehow and need to be multi millionaires now because of what someone said on a podcast known to be nutty for 24 minutes almost ten years ago? Give me a break.

If I have to repeatedly move because people are publishing my address online and inciting people to stalk and harass and make death threats against me and my family, you bet your ass I'm going to pursue any and ALL action to correct that situation, because that situation is entirely unacceptable.

"Oh, stop whining and just move and get over it" isn't good enough, pal. And if that idiot is where the sh*t rolls downhill from - and he IS - then let King Sh*thead pay the freight. He created these nutjobs who act abhorrently in his name, let him be the one responsible for them.

You have more empathy for a con artist with a talk show who wouldn't stop to piss on you if you were on fire than the people who've been stalked and harassed by his brainwashed disciples, because he's out there "pwning the Libtards" and that just blows my goddamn mind.

[IMJ]

So because "free speech", people should be allowed to very loudly and repeatedly lie, even after those lies have incited other people towards violence and harassment, because "lying and spreading disinformation is a victimless crime"? Bullsh*t.

IIIiiiiii don't think that is actually what anyone is saying....

[Leo656]

It is literally what at least two people here are in fact saying. "Free speech, he can say what he wants and so can the idiots who believe his very obvious lies. Whatever happens after the fact as a result cannot be mitigated, regulated, or penalized in any way whatsoever, Because Free Speech." That is very much what they are saying, and they're only saying it because they love the cut of this one specific asshole's gib. "He makes the pink-hairs salty, so he's A-OK by me!" That's 100% of it, man.

Nah. I've played that "Free Speech" card more than anyone here over the years but always with the caveat that 1. People still have a responsibility to not lie or otherwise be scumbags, and 2. All actions - and words - carry consequences.

His consequence is that he's now found to be legally liable for inciting dumb people towards harassment and violence. Good, he deserves way worse but hitting people like him in the wallet is the only way to hurt them because they don't have any humanity or a conscience and so trying to pauper them is the only effective punishment. He'd still be getting off light, quite frankly.

[IndigoErth]

Hadn't heard about it until now, but apparently a father of a Sandy Hook kid killed, and was among the parents who had a defamation suit against Jones, ended is own life back in 2019. That would be heart wrenching for anyone to deal with such a loss, but then to have some media personality dumping truckloads of salt into the wound, ensuring it can't heal because the attention the conspiracies give him are too profitable... There are no words.

I'm glad he's not getting away scott free, though there is no punishment great enough for a twisted MF'er driving conspiracies to profit off of people's immense pain. Maybe the rest of life spent in an old-time asylum, shut off from the world, and hooked up to electrodes three times a day. There aren't words strong enough to properly describe the disgusting depths of his actions, because that is some SERIOUS mental illness and 100% lack of empathy and morals to do that kind of s*** and be able to still live with yourself and sleep at night. There is a point to which a right, including free speech, can be abused, and by supremely awful, psychopathic people who need to gtfo this planet, yet hide behind their "right" and avoid getting bitch slapped to Pluto like they aught to. Free speech never guaranteed that you won't be or can't be if normal humanity finds your bulls*** going too far.

[Leo656]

Yep. Combined with a whole bunch of "Who is more foolish, The Fool or the fool who follows him?" going on, to boot. Hard to even say, but I'd honestly argue that his disciples are worse. He's just a con artist, but they're devout, which means they believe in him, which means they're thick as bricks.

Basically, He's evil, They're stupid, and it's a pick-'em as to which is actually "worse" or more damaging in the grand scheme of things. Real chicken-egg stuff.

[Andrew NDB]

But can you really be slandered/libeled/damaged to the tune of millions of dollars needed for you to be made whole again... if you're not so much as even mentioned by name in the offending 24 minutes of material? Like, not even once?

This is the part I'm a bit stuck on.

[Mayhem]

Seeing as most news reports on this case have used the word “repeatedly” in regards to Jones’ push that Sandy Hook was fake, I think the 24 minutes you talk about isn’t the be all and end all of the rhetoric being considered.

Sorry, I’m completely with Leo on this one, when you’re in the media or are extremely well known, what you say and do can have massive influence. Free speech yes, but not free from consequences.

Why do celebs promote products? And while the actual quote will never be known, one of the earliest examples of similar behaviour was King Henry II’s utterance about Thomas Beckett which led to four of his knights murdering the priest the following day. The king never ordered them to do it, but took his words to mean that. And so with Alex Jones, when dumb****s listen to his ranting lies, a small proportion are inevitably going to do dumb**** things as a result.

The one thing we will agree on is the actual pay out level ruled upon…

[Leo656]

But can you really be slandered/libeled/damaged to the tune of millions of dollars needed for you to be made whole again... if you're not so much as even mentioned by name in the offending 24 minutes of material? Like, not even once?

This is the part I'm a bit stuck on.

Again, the point is not to whether or not it's entirely "fair", the point is that when a person misbehaves the only way to punish them is to hit them so hard that they feel it. It's not about equity, it's about punishment. And fining a rich person a "reasonable" or "fair" amount teaches them no lesson because they just shrug it off. They only feel the sting when you completely ruin and pauper them. So that's what you do.

It's not about whether the man committed a quantifiable $500 million worth of slander, it's about making sure he feels the weight of punishment and also to send a warning to anyone who would try and pick up his baton. "Don't bother, here's what happens."

Like, what happens if they only fine him $4 million? Nothing happens, he just screams louder. Leave him with nothing, he crawls back under his rock for good, chastened and humiliated.

He's not a legitimate journalist or investigator or whistle-blower, he's not asking legitimate questions or furthering any legitimate narratives. He's a simple carny sh*t-stirrer, a troll, and a con man. When a human being serves no productive use and is basically a tumor with a mouth, you remove the cancer, you don't tolerate it and argue that the tumor has a right to poison everything it touches simply because it exists. You get rid of it by any means necessary. It's not like we're talking about an actual human being, here.

[Vegita-San]

I hate the left wing narrative as much as anyone. but can't beleive some folk are calling this guy a hero.

he is clearly either nuts, or using the conspiracy to feul energy into his own show. haven't the sandy hook parents suffered enough? he's not helping any by doing any of this.

If you want to keep your guns, fine, but this isn't the way to go about it. the tradgedy happened. it should never have happened, but it did. learn from it, mourn, move on, and try to figure out a way to better prevent any, god forbid, future ones. the red flags with most of these lunatics was already there...but most where ignored.

[IMJ]

But can you really be slandered/libeled/damaged to the tune of millions of dollars needed for you to be made whole again... if you're not so much as even mentioned by name in the offending 24 minutes of material? Like, not even once?

This is the part I'm a bit stuck on.

Yeah... that's where I'm at too.
I mean - usually people win libel or slander cases because it costs them jobs or social clout, etc. These people didn't lose jobs or life opportunities because of Alex Jones.

And what they did lose, they lost because of other people who were NOT Alex Jones.

So I can see an "emotional damage" judgement or something like that, but the financial awards for this were as if Alex Jones did the killing and the maiming that changed these people's lives. Society made him the villain and he'll be irrevocably changed for life financially for talking, and that's nonsense.

[Mayhem]

Society made him the villain and he'll be irrevocably changed for life financially for talking, and that's nonsense.
Hitler did a lot of talking too... loathe I am to drag Nazis into a discussion, but words influence people. Some of the most despicable people in history were charismatic intelligent folks using words to influence the dumb masses around them with subtle persuasion and false statement. There's no difference here with Alex Jones, except for the fact as Leo put it, he's a dumbass low level carny ****-stirrer taking advantage of gullibility.

[Andrew NDB]

So I can see an "emotional damage" judgement or something like that, but the financial awards for this were as if Alex Jones did the killing and the maiming that changed these people's lives. Society made him the villain and he'll be irrevocably changed for life financially for talking, and that's nonsense.

But no one was even aware Jones said that until years later when the Hillary campaign trotted those 24 minutes out. Because only the crazies were even listening to whatever platform he was saying that on. What is the emotional damage?

[Mayhem]

But no one was even aware Jones said that until years later when the Hillary campaign trotted it out. Because only the crazies were even listening to whatever platform he was saying that on. What is the emotional damage?
This article suggests the harrassment and continuation of the lie started and was going on way before Hillary's campaign trotted it out as you say. Sounds like it perpetuated from the moment the original lies went out in 2012... mostly at the behest of Alex Jones.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/us/politics/alex-jones-infowars-sandy-hook.html

[Warhorse]

Meet Maya Gamble, the judge who just ordered Alex Jones to pay $4.1 Million in damages

https://i.imgur.com/InX90RQ.png?1

Funny thing, I was a registered democrat when I started following Alex Jones during the Bush years. I bet most of his followers are and this goes to show how much the democrats have changed. Sorry, some of us don't think Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK (or at least he wasn't alone), and that 9/11 happened the way they said it did.

Anyway, I hope this gives him arsenal for appeals.

[IMJ]

Hitler did a lot of talking too... loathe I am to drag Nazis into a discussion, but words influence people. Some of the most despicable people in history were charismatic intelligent folks using words to influence the dumb masses around them with subtle persuasion and false statement. There's no difference here with Alex Jones, except for the fact as Leo put it, he's a dumbass low level carny ****-stirrer taking advantage of gullibility.

Ehhhhh, that's a rough example man. But I see a point there in it somewhere.... Let's roll with it and just move into the area where your point is 100% on the money - I'd still say the payouts were outlandish and a result of projected vengeance or projected anger.

Of course in the wrong crowd your point is dangerous because you used f'n Hitler - a character that we aren't supposed to socially give any caveat too; but as far as the payout is concerned Alex Jones isn't f'n Hitler, dude. Actually now that I think about it, this plays to my point about using Jones as a figurehead - now to compare his charismatic nonsense it's "Alex Jones, like the most despicable people like Hitler, use language..."

So no matter how you look at it, I'm back to that it's a nonsense comparison. We wind up comparing guys like Alex Jones to f'n Adolph Hitler. Now sit back and watch the deeper forum mouth-breathers come crawling out with their pseudo-intellectual nonsense born of only that comparison. Let's not feed and catalyze the peasant @$$wipes through comparison-error (https://www.google.com/search?q=Comparison+error+critical+thinking&sxsrf=ALiCzsb80uTVloulgcercG_ZjaWNq5JvTQ%3A1665848 355988&ei=I9RKY936O9i70PEP98iGgAo&ved=0ahUKEwidmIjcyOL6AhXYHTQIHXekAaAQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=Comparison+error+critical+thinking&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQghEKABMgUIIRCgATIFCCEQoAE yBQghEKABMgUIIRCrAjoECCMQJzoECAAQQzoFCAAQkQI6CwguE IAEELEDEIMBOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARDRAzoECC4QQzoJCAA QQxBGEPkBOggIABCABBCxAzoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6CAgAELEDE JECOhAILhCABBCxAxCDARDUAhAKOgUIABCABDoICAAQsQMQgwE 6DQgAEIAEELEDEIMBEAo6BQgAEIYDOgYIABAWEB46CAgAEBYQH hAPOggIIRAWEB4QHUoECE0YAUoECEEYAEoECEYYAFAAWM8mYNI naABwAXgAgAGjAYgBth6SAQUxMC4yNJgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz), dude.

But no one was even aware Jones said that until years later when the Hillary campaign trotted those 24 minutes out. Because only the crazies were even listening to whatever platform he was saying that on. What is the emotional damage?

This is difficult to address because it falls into that typically bull$#!( "well you don't know, it's not you" sort of explanation. But I think the short of it is that you want to trigger your sense of empathy for a couple of parents who no longer have their child around and what emotions can be stirred up from hearing some of that $#!(.

[Refractive Reflections]

These are also defamation cases. So he's not being sued for encouraging his audience of insane idiots to go harass the families of the Sandy Hook victims he's being sued for lying that they were 'crisis actors'. The fact that they've been harassed and threatened for years is the consequence of his lies.

So what about all the lies of the COVID vaccine? The amount of lies about it preventing transmission (https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/pfizer-did-not-know-whether-covid-vaccine-stopped-transmission-before-rollout-executive-admits/news-story/f307f28f794e173ac017a62784fec414) and defamation of those who didn't get it were demonized as selfish grandma killers. Leading some pressured to get it (with life-altering adverse effects), or those refusing, leading to joblessness, prohibition to attending public functions/travel, and being socially ostracized.

According to your logic, where's their just compensation for the many millions who refused getting the COVID vaccines?

At least with Alex Jones, he didn't have complete knowledge of the Sandy Hook situation since he wasn't directly involved, but in the COVID vaccine situation, the drug companies knew since they were selling their own product to the masses. So the latter is even a far greater crime since the drug companies had first-hand knowledge.

[TurtleManiac]

Alex Jones Twitter / X account has been re-instated.

[Mayhem]

Whether he comes back, a la not Trump, is another matter.