View Full Version : I don’t think it needs a third season
Leofan26
08-05-2022, 10:24 AM
I feel if they did what else do we have to tell?
oldmanwinters
08-05-2022, 10:40 AM
Saw the movie, liked it, but perfectly cool if that’s the last we see of this. Or not. Meh, I’m fine either way.
neatoman
08-05-2022, 11:08 AM
Well, my official stance on Rise is that I can't really find anything anything about it that is legitimate worse than 2012 show (and in some respects, it's probably the better of the two shows on an objective level), but that the whole "difference for difference sake" is very off-putting.
I can't honestly tell anyone that if the situation had been reversed, Rise getting 124 episodes and the 2012 show only getting 39 episodes, that it would have been unfair. That said, the 2012 show is a bit "closer" to what I want TMNT in presentation, so it getting to last much longer is... Less destructive to what I want TMNT to be. Really, the only thing about Rise's approach that is preferable is that it doesn't attempt to reacreate the "Glory Days" of the Fred Wolf cartoon by forcing in Bebop, Rocksteady, Mutagen Man, Muckman, Wingnut, Chrome Dome, Metalhead, a mutated fly version of Baxter and several terrible crossovers with the Fred Wolf cartoon. For it's faults in approach, I can at least approve of avoiding such blatant Fred Wolf references.
But ultimately, yeah. Rise only getting 39 episodes and a movie is probably the best considering it could inspire future iterations to become more and more alien.
Ninjinister
08-05-2022, 12:23 PM
I think the only thing I "need" to know is where Draxum is right now. Why was he not even name-dropped despite essentially being the Turtles' second father at the end of S2?
Powder
08-05-2022, 11:11 PM
They had a whole half season of planned episodes canned, with probably plenty more laid out for future plans. So, ya know, that.
We were supposed to get a Monty Moose episode. We were robbed. :tlol:
At this point, sure, there's enough 'closure' to feel like they covered a lot of ground, managed to work in some drama, high stakes stuff, but fans of anything will always want more.
neatoman
08-06-2022, 07:37 AM
Yeah, it's obvious they're just going to make another reboot. Despite being more recent, it's (slightly) more likely we'll see a continuation of the 2012 cartoon than Rise, I'm not really seeing that happening either but it's clearly the more popular version.
IndigoErth
08-06-2022, 11:01 AM
Agree, with the movie it looks like they completed covering what they ultimately wanted to in terms of an actual arc (filler-like nonsense aside). I don't imagine it too worthwhile to go trying to reanimate a dead horse, and considering it didn't do that great before they'd probably just go jumping the shark immediately to try to impress people only to have it fall on its face. Can't see Nick risking money doing that, esp when they themselves switched back to using 2012 when they want to throw the Turtles into something (such as that themed golf thing they recently had ads for).
CyberCubed
08-07-2022, 10:01 AM
The show was canceled 2 years ago. It's obviously not getting another season. The only reason the movie came out is due to the contacts signed to make it 2 years ago when they thought the show would continue.
Some of you have no idea how pre-production works. Even if they started work on a new season tomorrow, it would take until late 2023 or early 2024 to get it out so it wouldn't be worth it.
Leofan26
08-07-2022, 10:30 AM
The show was canceled 2 years ago. It's obviously not getting another season. The only reason the movie came out is due to the contacts signed to make it 2 years ago when they thought the show would continue.
Some of you have no idea how pre-production works. Even if they started work on a new season tomorrow, it would take until late 2023 or early 2024 to get it out so it wouldn't be worth it.
They said they’d make a third season if the movie got a lot of views such, many fans of this series would disagree with you on that.
Yes, this show does indeed have fans, you can tell by YouTube comments and twitter.
Like I said, I don’t think it needs another season as I felt it was concluded nicely. I’m sure had it actually let this season finish as originally planned Leo would have gotten a better character build up for being leader.
One thing that did annoy me was them refusing to say he was the leader now, they gave hints he was but didn’t say it. I assume it was so new fans didn’t have to watch the show and enjoy it.
Splinter should have also explained why he chose Leo as the new leader, we never got that explanation like I was hoping.
IndigoErth
08-07-2022, 10:46 AM
Time frame is a good point... As it is, the team they had certainly would have disbanded and been busy with other projects, rather than just sit at their desks waiting just in case, so it's not like they can just jump on an unproduced script come Monday morning.
On the other hand, would Nick want to invest more in a show that bombed. What a group making a show hope to do vs what the company paying for it is interested in aren't always the same either. And a lackluster toyline didn't and doesn't help.
If bringing something back would end up that far out from its original cancellation, the time and money may be better well spent on a different show with other ideas and directions that might be more universally liked. (Or god forbid, one that aims a little older on another channel owned by Viacom/CBS.)
CyberCubed
08-07-2022, 11:20 AM
As said the team has moved on and the show ended 2 years ago, the movie was only released to fullfill whatever contract they had with netflix when it was conceived.
2023 has a new CG reboot coming in theaters, it's most likely we get a cartoon loosely based on that movie if it's a success.
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
08-07-2022, 12:11 PM
The show was canceled 2 years ago. It's obviously not getting another season. The only reason the movie came out is due to the contacts signed to make it 2 years ago when they thought the show would continue.
It was originally intended for 2021 release, so that would have been just one year after the series finale.
The Turtle Terminator
08-07-2022, 12:38 PM
When was the last time a show like this was revived? Something that wasn’t too popular? I thought Young Justice but it had a big enough fandom for it to be cancelled because of too many female fans
LeotheLateBloomer
08-07-2022, 08:35 PM
One thing that did annoy me was them refusing to say he was the leader now, they gave hints he was but didn’t say it. I assume it was so new fans didn’t have to watch the show and enjoy it.
Splinter should have also explained why he chose Leo as the new leader, we never got that explanation like I was hoping.
What was the point in making him the leader at the very end of the show only for them to not outright say he's the leader? It makes me wonder how much of this movie was changed or altered before release.
Poweranimals
08-09-2022, 10:53 PM
I'm guessing that if there was a season 3, Baxter would've invented a device that ended up aging himself up.
Torterra
09-11-2022, 10:02 PM
Well I mean a season 3 could have built up the Triceatons and the fugitoid introduced a new Foot clan leader to be the main villain for the foot like Tatsu or Hun. Maybe introduce Renet and Savanti Romero and do a time travel special. They do a special introducing Usagi Yojimbo there are plenty of storylines and characters they can do a season 3 or even 4 with, without using or bringing back Shredder or Kraang.
IndigoErth
09-12-2022, 02:27 PM
Sad to say that sounds like a different show and may be asking a lot for a show that cared more about memes and 6-year-old humor than story advancement.
marcelangelo
09-12-2022, 04:01 PM
Sad to say that sounds like a different show and may be asking a lot for a show that cared more about memes and 6-year-old humor than story advancement.
Im sorry to say this, but your comment shows that you have not followed the show through its shortlived 2 seasons apparently. Rise really offers wonderful character developement (see splinter for example) and an advancing story.
But in regards to the suggestions of the poster before your comment I dont know if the 'usual' road in turtles media (triceraton invasion, etc) would have been the definite way to go for the show since rise of the tmnt started out making its own thing, breaking free of the mold and telling their own story (hidden city, yokai, etc) even if they very cleverly worked in familiar characters into their story in parts (krang, casey)
marcelangelo
09-12-2022, 04:02 PM
On another note, nickelodeon has uploaded another batch of brandnew rise shorts. Has anyone here watched them?
Andrew NDB
09-12-2022, 04:04 PM
Im sorry to say this, but your comment shows that you have not followed the show through its shortlived 2 seasons apparently. Rise really offers wonderful character developement (see splinter for example) and an advancing story.
https://c.tenor.com/S75bRj_pA4kAAAAd/alright-then-whatever-you-say.gif
Cowabung-Gal
09-12-2022, 06:06 PM
HAHAHAHA!! “Third Season”! HAHAHAHAHA!! :lol:
…Wait. You’re serious? :ohwell:
IndigoErth
09-12-2022, 06:27 PM
Im sorry to say this, but your comment shows that you have not followed the show through its shortlived 2 seasons apparently. Rise really offers wonderful character developement (see splinter for example) and an advancing story.
On the contrary, I caught all the eps when they premiered, watched it all despite not being fond of it, gave the whole damn thing 100% fair chance to get its act together and change my mind, but it did not and I still very much disagree with your view on character development, story, etc.
Believe it or not, not everyone who gives it all the chance possible will become a convert.
LeotheLateBloomer
09-13-2022, 12:20 AM
Rise really offers wonderful character developement (see splinter for example) and an advancing story.
That couldn't be further from the truth than it already is. We've watched two completely different cartoons.
marcelangelo
09-13-2022, 06:40 AM
On the contrary, I caught all the eps when they premiered, watched it all despite not being fond of it, gave the whole damn thing 100% fair chance to get its act together and change my mind, but it did not and I still very much disagree with your view on character development, story, etc.
Believe it or not, not everyone who gives it all the chance possible will become a convert.
Okay, well then this show just isnt for you it seems. I dont have a problem with people not liking it. Giving it a chance is a good thing in my book, and then if you dont like it still hey you just dont like it. I really enjoy it. But there will be more cartoons of the tmnt ahead anyway.
marcelangelo
09-13-2022, 06:41 AM
That couldn't be further from the truth than it already is. We've watched two completely different cartoons.
Yeah ok. Mr truth.hahaha
LeotheLateBloomer
09-13-2022, 06:53 AM
Yeah ok. Mr truth.hahaha
Yeah ok, Mr. Wonderful character development and advancing story. Please...
Cowabung-Gal
09-13-2022, 09:16 AM
I, too, gave Rise another chance even after being immensely disappointed by the first episode.
I only ended up being immensely disappointed again.
Just you wait. After the next TMNT show airs, so-called Rise “fans” who defended it against haters will deny that they ever liked it and will bash it just as much
shredder orokusaki
09-13-2022, 11:07 AM
The next series will be 1000 times better than rise. It will be as good and full of action like the 2003 and 2012 seires are but not as funny as the 1987 series is.
IndigoErth
09-13-2022, 01:16 PM
For once I agree with the Shredder RPer.
Not to mean to go beating a dead horse by saying so, just that a rather universally well received show would be fantastic, iffy as it may unfortunately be to happen in this era of animation.
Poweranimals
10-16-2022, 11:03 AM
I think that while the show evolved in a way that was fun to watch, I agree that it didn't need a season 3. The movie was fantastic but let's be honest, that was probably the best we were gonna get. It did open up potential to continue but it felt in a lot of ways like a finale and did bring a lot of closure to these characters so I'm fine with it. I still find that while enjoyable, this show was kind of a mess when it came to pacing. I think the best thing to do at this point is wait a little while before launching something new.
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