Konami says, "never say never" about a possible 2k3 games collection

[CyberCubed]

https://twitter.com/GoNintendoTweet/status/1565933143479226374

Basically they were asked about a 2k3 game collection in the future, and rather than deny it, the Konami rep said, "Never say never."

There were 7 games Konami made based on the 2k3/4kids cartoon:

1. TMNT Console version (based on Season 1)
2. TMNT: Battle Nexus (based on Season 2)
3. TMNT: Mutant Nightmare (based on Season 3)
4. TMNT Mutant Melee (3D Brawler)
5. TMNT GBA (based on Season 1)
6. TMNT: Battle Nexus GBA (based on Season 2)
7. TMNT: Mutant Nightmare DS (based on Season 3)

The GBA/DS games are completely unique games in 2D sprites different from the console games. So a 7 game collection would be pretty meaty.

Although of course the 3D 2k3 games weren't particular good even when they came out (they were all poorly reviewed by the major game sites in the early 2000's), it would still be neat to have them.

[AquaParade]

I’d actually be more interested in this collection, simply because I’ve played those games much less, if at all. I love the games in the Cowabunga Collection but I don’t have a burning desire to play them yet again.

[Sumac]

I'd be interested in PC version of this collection solely for the Mutant Nightmare on PC.

[Shark_Blade]

Just give us and we’ll buy it Konami.

[Andrew NDB]

Right now Konami seems to be only in the "we're collecting and releasing all of our old games and not new ones" mode, so of course

[Turo602]

This is something I wrote off before because the games themselves were quite unremarkable, the franchise was already past its prime, and it's a different version of TMNT that they don't typically pimp, so to get an answer like this is pretty shocking.

I didn't think the games were anything special but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have fond memories of them and the possibility of 2k3 even remotely getting any sort of recognition and comeback is something that excites me and would bring much needed diversity to TMNT's image which is currently dominated by the 87 cartoon.

But this past week alone, and probably in large part due to the Cowabunga Collection's release, I've seen a sudden surge of nostalgia for the 2k3 series and its games. Timing couldn't have been better either with the show's 20th anniversary coming up next year. It would be a total shame for the year to go by without any attempt at capitalizing on a generation of TMNT fans who have money to blow on toys, blu-rays, and games 20 years later.

[AquaParade]

Yeah, I’d love for the 2K3 era to get some love, in general.

I have a hard time enjoying that show sometimes, but there is still a lot to love, and I admire what they were trying to do. I’d be into figures or even an animated continuation, if done right. Anything really would pique my interest.

I think it’d require a lot of vocal fan support on social media and stuff. Nothing Snyder-level, of course, but I don’t think Nick sees all that strong a demand for 2K3 stuff, outside a relatively small clique of fans online.

[CyberCubed]

Man, I forgot 2023 will be the 20th anniversary of the show. Still wish we would get proper blu-ray boxsets of the show. At least it's all up for streaming officially now though.

[Antoniocafe]

I've got the PS2 Battle Nexus game. Personally, my favorite video game based off the 4Kids series was the plug-n-play Battle for the City game. I wish I knew what I did with that game. I would even buy it again if I could find it online for a decent price.

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https://www.tmnttoys.com/05others/pnpgames/2118.jpg

[Storm Eagle]

Bring it on.

With the exception of Mutant Melee, I used to own all of the games, and had the console versions for GameCube. I've just never finished Mutant Nightmare for the GameCube. I just wonder how Mutant Nightmare for the 3DS would be done for other consoles.

[TigerClaw]

I never played the games from the 2003 series, Even though they were Konami, They weren't much in high regard compared to the games before.

[Sumac]

With the exception of Mutant Melee
Trust me - you didn't missed a lot. :D

[CyberCubed]

I never played the games from the 2003 series, Even though they were Konami, They weren't much in high regard compared to the games before.

The 2D ones aged the best.

[sdp]

Technically the collection would include 2 extra games since the two arcade games are included in 2 and 3. I think if sales of cowabunga are good which they are and they see a cheap way of releasing it they'll do it. They know these games aren't as well thought of but if they can trick some TMNT fans and collectors into buying them to make it profitable we all win. I'd love to see it.



Hell I'd want a Ubisoft TMNT collection to follow as well: TMNT 2007, 2007 PSP version, 2007 GBA version, Smash Up, Turtles in Time: Re-Shelled, Out of the Shadows, Mutants in Manhattan, TMNT 2013, Danger of the Ooze, (I think I'm missing another two games based on the 2012 games but they don't show up on a quick wiki search), Movie 2014 DS game, Arcade Attack DS. I mean Ubisoft was mostly a bunch of missed opportunities with concepts that had a ton of potential. They just never delivered but it'd still be cool to see the concepts that could've made great games that made "Ok to mediocre" games.

2007 was fun in the consoles, GBA was great, they deserve to be played.
Smash Up was alright just the roster was awful a huge missed opportunity but the actual game is pretty decent, a good roster would've made this a "hidden gem.

I never played the 2012 games but I'd love to try them out, they don't seem that bad. I believe there were 4 different ones

Arcade attack I never played but apparently its awful yet I'd like to try it because it's an official beat em up of the TMNT I never played and it looks cool.

Both Out of the Shadows and Mutants in Manhattan I regret not buying, I'm sure they have flaws as reviews stated but they look fun to try.

Turtles in Time Reshelled I remember playing it for a bit and it seemed fun, I loved the new artwork for the cinematics, the graphics were decent for an XBOX Live Arcade game. The physics were flawed but it was neat. The hate comes that it was based off of the Arcade version and not the superior SNES version with more levels/bosses. I never understood why they didn't, it wasn't a port it was a remake, they literally could add anything they wanted

That's at least 10 games, of course it'd be more difficult since they're emulating more powerful consoles and it'd be more expensive.

[The Terror of Death]

^ The 2013-2016 games were actually done by Activision so they would have to be in a separate collection from the Ubisoft era games.

[Vegita-San]

I want REMASTERS of the games, Ala re-pac-ked.

The first gamecube game sorley needs it. combat is slow and graphics way too dated. don't remember much about the other two, but played that first one alot.

[oldmanwinters]

The Clowns at Xplay give their overview of TMNT gaming history:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ccetxb274

[Prowler]

Are any of those games any good besides maybe the GBA games? I own Battle Nexus 2 for the GameCube and that game is lousy. It's only worth it for being able to play the 1989 Arcade game. Even if it doesn't have the original Ost and voice acting.

[Leo656]

The first and third 2K3 games were quite good. Battle Nexus is easily one of the worst games I've ever played in my life but the other two are at least playable.

First one is a bit dated and some of the levels drag on too long but the game itself isn't too long altogether, so it isn't a big deal. Unless you choose to beat it with all four Turtles to get the hidden Final Boss Fight against Oroku Saki out of his armor (much faster and different attacks than Shredder) and the true ending; obviously that extends the playtime, and each of the Turtles has different attacks and such so there's a little variety there. It's a "weekender", a game you can have fun with in 2-3 hour chunks over a couple of days and put it down not feeling like it wasted your time or pissed you off in any way. Even beating it four times to get the real ending only took me a couple of days. It definitely won't blow anyone away now but I do think someone playing it for the first time would be pleasantly surprised by how a 3D beat-'em-up from 2003 can still hold up. There wasn't a ton of competition in that genre at that moment, anyways. I definitely recommend it but to set expectations to 2003-era levels.

The only thing I dislike, genuinely, is the constant shouting of the Turtles' battle phrases. You will use the special attacks A LOT and they shout their phrase every single time, so for example if you're playing as Mikey and diving into a swarm of enemies, you're basically going to hear: "EAT FEET! EAT FEET! EAT FEET! EAT FEET!" until you want to amputate both his legs at the knee with a chainsaw. But you can always just mute the game and put some music on or something; I forget if the game lets you mess with it to turn the effects on or off or whatever.

Everything else about the first game is "fine".

The third game was definitely the best of the three, by a wide margin, and had a lot of really cool innovations and ideas with the special moves and power-ups and such. My memories are dim, as I only finished it once and it was when it was brand new, but I remember it being a lot of fun and by far the most well done game for that series. The reason I only played it once was because I couldn't find a copy for Gamecube, and so I got it for Xbox but of course my Xbox died shortly after. I think it either had a low production run or just plain sold poorly because of how bad Battle Nexus was, because it's become a bit rare and pricey and most people have never played it, but they'd be glad they did, if they got the chance.

So I definitely recommend playing the first and third games, preferably on Gamecube if possible because it's a much more stable platform than the Xbox (even when my Xbox was working, the third game froze a lot). Problem there being the GC version of Mutant Nightmare is a bit expensive, and most people seem to have lost one of the game's two discs and thus finding it complete is a chore sometimes. I finally snagged a GC copy when I had my stimulus cash, and I paid more than I wanted to but it was worth it just to finally have a copy I can play. Just haven't gotten to it yet, but planning to soon.

[CyberCubed]

The GBA games and DS one are excellent since they're 2D sidescrollers. So a collection would be 3 console games and the 3 handheld ones, and the 2D ones are superior.

[Antoniocafe]

Whenever I see the title of this thread, my mind sees "Never Say Xever" from the Nickelodeon cartoon.

[member_removed]

I had the first two games for the PS2 and enjoyed them.

I'd happily fork out for this.

[RaphaelinSTL]

I often wonder what a sequel to the Cowabunga Collection would be like, but when it comes to the 2003 series — I only ever really remember the first game, and I liked it a lot for what it was. My late brother and I used to beat it at the time, and it came out at the right moment when we were playing out PS2 a lot. Good memories with that one.

As much as I liked the 4Kids series, there's definitely a big gap between people who remember those games compared to the 1987 based games. It'd be a day 1 purchase for me, but would getting 13 classic games in one collection, and then 7 often forgotten games in the next might be a stretch.

I mean, I'll get it — but still, lol.

[PizzaPower]

I had the first two games for the PS2 and enjoyed them.

I'd happily fork out for this.
me too, and i still have em and play em.

[IMJ]

me too, and i still have em and play em.

Myself as well. I love games like this now even more than when I was younger. You can turn 'em on, pound out a level, put 'em down.

[oknazevad]

I just wonder if they did make such a collection how would they handle the DS game's second screen function considering no current console has a second screen.

[CyberCubed]

I just wonder if they did make such a collection how would they handle the DS game's second screen function considering no current console has a second screen.

The same way they handled it on the Megaman ZX collection. Just make the second screen really small to the side. The second screen was largely just maps in the game, and any touch screen stuff can easily be removed.

[FrederikWolferson]

That would be nice.