Tekken 8

[Andrew NDB]

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It's coming.

[Sumac]

Not fan of Tekken gameplay, but its high-level gameplay is fun to watch, so I wonder how new game will be different compared to the last one.

[CyberCubed]

I'm pretty much "over" most fighters these days. Outside of Mortal Kombat because I really like the lore, but all the others I played so much of back in the day and the sequels don't add that much new stuff or characters I care about. I also can't get that involved in the gameplay mechanics of each fighter anymore.

Also locking most characters behind DLC has pretty much killed it for me too.

[Sumac]

Also locking most characters behind DLC has pretty much killed it for me too.
Well, you either get 60 characters on launch, but the game is junk and buggy mess or uses assets from previous games without anything new to add or you wait for several years for characters and balance patches being released in pieces.

I am OK with a latter, since fighting games benefit from this tactic. Because, an opposite would have been waiting for several years for a sequel or buy an updated re-release (SF4 - Super SF4).

[Andrew NDB]

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[Coola Yagami]

So they pretty much ripped off the Street Fighter 6 Battle Hub? Straight down to having avatars sit on arcade machines to challenge each other. WTF Bamco???

[Andrew NDB]

So they pretty much ripped off the Street Fighter 6 Battle Hub? Straight down to having avatars sit on arcade machines to challenge each other. WTF Bamco???

It may be unclear who ripped off who first at which point in development... but... I may have to give it to SF6 if THAT is their battle hub thing, here in Tekken 8. Though the hub system in SF6 seems pretty... 15 years ago Second Life sort of 3D, but at least Tekken 8's just goes full force into "hey, we're doing mini cute...something. But just for that." But jeeze. That seems like a bold move from what people think when they think "Tekken."

[Coola Yagami]

On one hand I agree, but on the other hand, previous games have had volleyball and bowling mini games.

[Sumac]

It may be unclear who ripped off who first at which point in development... but... I may have to give it to SF6 if THAT is their battle hub thing, here in Tekken 8. Though the hub system in SF6 seems pretty... 15 years ago Second Life sort of 3D, but at least Tekken 8's just goes full force into "hey, we're doing mini cute...something. But just for that." But jeeze. That seems like a bold move from what people think when they think "Tekken."
Considering usually **** lobbies fighting game got, SF6 World Hub is an amazing achievement. Especially since it also includes old games and customizable avatars.

Tekken's looks quite generic "follow the leader" thing. Not that's a bad thing, considering how barebones Tekken 7 was.

MK1 meanwhile made a whole board game mode for a singleplayer.

[Andrew NDB]

Game's almost out, 1/26. Anybody stoked?

Tekken's looks quite generic "follow the leader" thing. Not that's a bad thing, considering how barebones Tekken 7 was.

Hey, they added back in "Tekken Bowl" from Tekken Tag Tournament. And that thing is everything. :)

[Sumac]

Nah. I have T8 demo, but still didn't come around playing it.
But I doubt, it'll make me drop everything and buy T8 on a release day.

[Coola Yagami]

Game's almost out, 1/26. Anybody stoked?



Hey, they added back in "Tekken Bowl" from Tekken Tag Tournament. And that thing is everything. :)

I would if I had a PS5. Was honestly kinda disappointed it wasn't also for the PS4 but whatever. Maybe later this year, who knows. Honestly not ready to give up on the PS4 yet. I keep finding new games I want for it.

[Andrew NDB]

I would if I had a PS5. Was honestly kinda disappointed it wasn't also for the PS4 but whatever. Maybe later this year, who knows. Honestly not ready to give up on the PS4 yet. I keep finding new games I want for it.

You should give up on it. It's an 11 year-old system now. Can you imagine in the 90s or 2000s, expecting new games on 11 year-old systems? You wouldn't get even half of that.

[Sumac]

You should give up on it. It's an 11 year-old system now. Can you imagine in the 90s or 2000s, expecting new games on 11 year-old systems? You wouldn't get even half of that.
Depends on where you were. NES and SNES got last new games in Japan precisely 11 years after their respective releases.

As for PS4, I think, it time is coming to an end. PS5 is on the rise, even if it is not a juggernaut, like its predecessor. And developers themselves do not want to be beholden by the limitations of the outdated hardware anymore (unless its name is Switch).

[The Inventive Donatello]

You should give up on it. It's an 11 year-old system now. Can you imagine in the 90s or 2000s, expecting new games on 11 year-old systems? You wouldn't get even half of that.

I don't have a PS5 yet either, and didn't get a PS4 until 2018. That's mainly because in recent years I haven't played games anywhere near enough to justify it. I'd like to try PS5 exclusive games. As Coola says though, the PS4 has a rich amount of games and there's always stuff to play on it that you've never played before. I will probably do the same with the Switch 2 (though I did get the Switch when Mario Odyssey came out).

If you are a hardcore gamer and have run out of stuff it makes sense to upgrade as the PS5 is probably halfway through its life now - it's in its prime or approaching it. But there's so much material on last gen and before that you don't really have to buy a current gen console yet.

Apologies for hijacking your convo.

[Coola Yagami]

You should give up on it. It's an 11 year-old system now. Can you imagine in the 90s or 2000s, expecting new games on 11 year-old systems? You wouldn't get even half of that.

LMAO are you kidding? I just found 4 games I want to buy pretty soon, namely Under Night In-Birth, Rumble Fish 2, Double Dragon Advanced and Super Double Dragon. And I still have yet to buy River City Girls 2 and Retro Mania. I feel like I have just begun buying stuff for the PS4.

Like literally the one and only game I would want for the PS5 is Tekken 8, and that's just not enough. Now MAYBE if the next Fatal Fury game is only on the PS5..... we'll see. I've waited years for the next Fatal Fury game.

I was always more of a Capcom/SNK guy than a Tekken guy and MK1 just doesn't interest me in the slightest.

[The Inventive Donatello]

LMAO are you kidding? I just found 4 games I want to buy pretty soon, namely Under Night In-Birth, Rumble Fish 2, Double Dragon Advanced and Super Double Dragon. And I still have yet to buy River City Girls 2 and Retro Mania. I feel like I have just begun buying stuff for the PS4.

Like literally the one and only game I would want for the PS5 is Tekken 8, and that's just not enough. Now MAYBE if the next Fatal Fury game is only on the PS5..... we'll see. I've waited years for the next Fatal Fury game.

I was always more of a Capcom/SNK guy than a Tekken guy and MK1 just doesn't interest me in the slightest.

Yeah you're right (though I like Mortal Kombat). There's such a massive backlog on systems like PS4 and Switch that there's really no need to upgrade to current generation, unless there's a sizeable amount of exclusive games a person wants to play.

It sounds like you are a much bigger gamer than me (these days) and you are still finding stuff to play. Then there are games (like the series this thread is about, or sports games, or beat em ups) which don't end as they are not story-driven games, and have endless replay value.

There's no point spending half a grand on a new system when you still have plenty to play on PS4.

[The Deadman]

LMAO are you kidding? I just found 4 games I want to buy pretty soon, namely Under Night In-Birth, Rumble Fish 2, Double Dragon Advanced and Super Double Dragon. And I still have yet to buy River City Girls 2 and Retro Mania. I feel like I have just begun buying stuff for the PS4.


Unless its a PS5 exclusive, youre still able to purchase PS4 games even if you're on the PS5, and some games give you the PS4 version for free if you buy the PS5 version.

[Andrew NDB]

And don't forget about the upgrades. A ton of PS4 games have a PS5 upgrade you can install with the game on your PS5, essentially turning them into PS5 games and dramatically boosting graphics (and even if there isn't an official PS5 upgrade, chances are you'll see big improvements just by playing it on PS5), cutting loading times by 3/4s in some cases, and giving you the use of the pretty awesome haptic feedback of the PS5 controllers.

[Sumac]

The only enticing part about it is faster loading time.

[XERO]

Game's almost out, 1/26. Anybody stoked?

Got that b*tch pre-ordered.

I'm ready.

[Prowler]

I'll definitely be getting it. Hopefully it has better single player content than Tekken 7 did. Since I only play Street Fighter competitively, I am not buying Tekken to play it online against other people.

[Coola Yagami]

I'll definitely be getting it. Hopefully it has better single player content than Tekken 7 did. Since I only play Street Fighter competitively, I am not buying Tekken to play it online against other people.

Like I said, I might eventually get it. Tekken is another one of those where I can play online and get some wins.

[IMJ]

Got that b*tch pre-ordered.

I'm ready.

That's awesome man. I haven't been really excited about much of anything in a very long time... :lol: But I know the feeling, so it's cool that this excites you - I hope the game is awesome!

[XERO]

That's awesome man. I haven't been really excited about much of anything in a very long time... :lol: But I know the feeling, so it's cool that this excites you - I hope the game is awesome!

I try to gauge my excitement levels when it comes to fighters.

The last time I got excited this much was Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance because I was all like "Yeah! I can't wait to play as Liu Kang (my main) again!"

We all know how that turned out. F*ck that game. :lol:

[The Inventive Donatello]

Unless its a PS5 exclusive, youre still able to purchase PS4 games even if you're on the PS5, and some games give you the PS4 version for free if you buy the PS5 version.

And don't forget about the upgrades. A ton of PS4 games have a PS5 upgrade you can install with the game on your PS5, essentially turning them into PS5 games and dramatically boosting graphics (and even if there isn't an official PS5 upgrade, chances are you'll see big improvements just by playing it on PS5), cutting loading times by 3/4s in some cases, and giving you the use of the pretty awesome haptic feedback of the PS5 controllers.

You guys are right - but he still has to pay for the console. Maybe he has other expenses or just can't justify it. After all, he could buy about 8 or even more full price PS4 games rather than the outlay on a brand new PS5. And - as you suggest - he will be able to play those games still on PS5 cos of BC.

Me personally, I would like a PS5 for sure. But I don't game enough these days to justify buying it when there's still tons on PS4 I can play. Coola is in the same boat as he alludes to - he has lots still to play on PS4 so why upgrade when he has plenty to entertain himself with? He can get a PS5 for cheaper a few years down the line, or do what I did with PS4 and buy it when a big game he likes and the Pro comes out (for me it was Spider-Man).

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah, I'm not gonna pay full price for the PS5 just like I didn't pay full price for the PS4 (got it for 200 or so a few years back on a Black Friday sale).

[XERO]

I'm hype for tomorrow! Release day!

[XERO]

So, anyone playing?

If you ever want to get a set in, I'm on PSN. Username EdmanXERO.

[Kold Pizza]

My favorite Tekken games growing up were Tekken 3 and Tekken 4. I must admit, I’m not really into fighting games that much anymore like I used to be, especially with companies incorporating things like DLC into games today which has been a turn off for me. But I did see the reviews on websites like Metacritic, it got a lot of positive reviews from critics and users alike. I might give the game a try when I have time on the weekends and I’m not busy working. That’s another thing, when you were younger, you felt like you had all the time in the world to play whatever games you wanted. Now that your are an adult, you time is limited and you find yourself balancing out work hours with the fun hours.

[Andrew NDB]

So, anyone playing?

If you ever want to get a set in, I'm on PSN. Username EdmanXERO.

I think I'm neodb.

Also, how stupid is it that there's no Lei Wulong? They did this same crap with Tekken 7. No Lei Wulong until 2-3 years later, and you have to pay for it.

[Andrew NDB]

They brought in Eddy a couple nights ago. How stupid he wasn't a launch character. He's still super fun to play as but I'm super rusty.

My favorite Tekken games growing up were Tekken 3 and Tekken 4.

It's strange, Tekken 1 and 2 and 3 seemed so distinct, having seen them at the arcades. Then Tekken 4-6 became a bit of a blur with me. For the longest time I'd swear graphically Tekken 7 (7, not 8) wasn't graphically superior to 6, or at least it wasn't much moreso. Tekken 6 is available on PS Network now and wow... that looks really dated. I know what 1-3 look like, but I'd be scared to see what 4 and 5 look like.

[Iroh]

Now, a couple of months have passed. This game is trash deluxe where it's unplayable now. :lol: Many pros are bowing out and choosing other games to play now. Harada and Murray doesn't care any the traditional players. It's all about tekken shop garbage with their goofy microtransactions.

[Andrew NDB]

Almost 3 months since Eddie was added and they've added nobody new. This is a real bummer.

[Iroh]

I'm surprised people are playing the game. Since Gouki was released for SF6, Tekken's fan club decreased dramatically. Harada is still trying to see if it's possible to add a Waffle House stage to the goofy game.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm surprised people are playing the game. Since Gouki was released for SF6, Tekken's fan club decreased dramatically. Harada is still trying to see if it's possible to add a Waffle House stage to the goofy game.

Eh, who...?

[Iroh]

My apologies. Akuma is his name in America. I'm used to playing things in Japanese.

[Andrew NDB]

Oh. Well of course Akuma is in SF6. It's a pity he isn't in Tekken 8 (he was in 7) but given the timing of the games' releases I get it. It'd be kind of neat if Tekken could nab a Mortal Kombat character. It'd be easy, too, they'd just have to return MK 3D controls like from MK4-MK9.

[Coola Yagami]

Tekken 6 is available on PS Network now and wow... that looks really dated. I know what 1-3 look like, but I'd be scared to see what 4 and 5 look like.

Ah, you fell for it like I did. It's the PSP version, not the legit PS3 version. It sucks that once you buy it, there are no refunds. The real Tekken 6 was nowhere near that pixelated.

[Andrew NDB]

Ah, you feel for it like I did. It's the PSP version, not the legit PS3 version. It sucks that once you but it, there are no refunds. The real Tekken 6 was nowhere near that pixelated.

Yeah? That makes a lot of sense. I thought there was something funny there. Like, OK, I know I had a CRT TV back then, but no way it was THAT pixelated underneath.

[XERO]

I've been in and out of this game lately. Got burnt out and it's costing me Rank promotions. Haha. Anyway here's one of my online sets.

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[Iroh]

I saw the Heihachi trailer yesterday. LMAO! I knew that dude wasn't dead. BandaiNamco is struggling hard to keep this goofy game afloat. Now, Heihachi has a new scar on his chest combined from the one he received in Tekken 3. The new scar makes the kanji for "flame" in Japanese. It's hilarious. Everyone went back to SF6 when Gouki was released. Now, Terry Bogard is here and Tekken has become desolate. Harada is trying his best to earn more beer money for his struggling bar in Ebisu.

[Andrew NDB]

BandaiNamco is struggling hard to keep this goofy game afloat.

All they have to do is give people what they want. Where is Lei Wulong?

[XERO]

I'm still waiting for Forest Law, myself.

[Andrew NDB]

This whole latest wave of fighting games is lame. Street Fighter 6 isn't different enough from 5 to justify itself beyond the story mode, and is even missing big things from 5 that made 5 more enjoyable. Same exact story with Mortal Kombat 1 from Mortal Kombat 11. Tekken 8 is the only one that LOOKS way better than the previous installment, but it's missing almost everybody I enjoy playing as in Tekken since forever and them adding more fighters to the roster is happening at a snail's pace.

[Iroh]

I'm still waiting for Forest Law, myself.

Nooooo! We don't need another clone of Bruce Lee. Bruce Irvin should've came back.

[XERO]

Nooooo! We don't need another clone of Bruce Lee. Bruce Irvin should've came back.

Compared to the Mishima Clan fighters? Might as well be called the Wayans. :lol:

Another Bruce Lee fighter isn't asking too much. There's literally only 2 of them.

[Iroh]

I understand. I guess Armor King should make a return then since we're talking about clones. His moves are stronger than King after all.

[Coola Yagami]

Also the latest Evo news announced that Lidia Sobieska is available now and Heihachi Mishima is coming up next. The ****er is back just like Bison.

[Iroh]

Yup. Anything is possible now. Gon might make his debut next year. LMAO!

[Andrew NDB]

So I guess Namco did a poll and most people wanted to see Ogre from Tekken 3... but instead of just doing that they created this... thing instead.

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And still no Lei Wulong.

[Coola Yagami]

So I guess Namco did a poll and most people wanted to see Ogre from Tekken 3... but instead of just doing that they created this... thing instead.

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And still no Lei Wulong.

On the other hand, her having Ogre's powers is a good rival to Zafina who has Azazel's powers.

[Prowler]

I love fighting games but I REALLY hate it how they always do this **** of not bringing back certain popular characters I liked from previous titles to introduce new ones/or make other ones return that often aren't as cool.

Capcom really abused this with Street Fighter III. And even by the end of the game's life, with 3rd Strike out, the only old faces from the series in the game were Ryu, Ken, Akuma and Chun-Li. Chun wasn't in Sf3 until 3S and she's top tier in that game.

In Mortal Kombat 3 vanilla there's no Scorpion. He comes back in UMK3 alongside Reptile and a few others but they didn't bring back Raiden or Johnny Cage for some odd reason. Two iconic characters from the series. No one ****ing played as Sheeva.

[Andrew NDB]

As far as I'm concerned I'm not sure why in 2025 there needs to be "missing" fighters in sequels to fighting games. Or at least just make them DLC right off the bat. You don't want Lei Wulong in the core game but I can spend $15 extra to download him? I won't be happy about that but I'll do it.

[Prowler]

As far as I'm concerned I'm not sure why in 2025 there needs to be "missing" fighters in sequels to fighting games. Or at least just make them DLC right off the bat. You don't want Lei Wulong in the core game but I can spend $15 extra to download him? I won't be happy about that but I'll do it.

Ditto. It was like that in Smash for the Wii U and the 3DS. Fortunately Nintendo were less greedy with Ultimate and no longer forced us to pay for characters that have been in previous entries like Roy. They only force us to pay for character passes that included new fighters. In fact, the whole point of Ultimate is that "EVERYONE IS HERE!"

I'm not even a big Lei Wulong guy, but him not being in Tekken 8 is asinine. He's been a staple of the series since... Tekken 3, at least? And speaking of which, who's Tekken's face/MC? A lot of people assume Jin is... but he only debuted in T3. Before that, Kazuya was the poster boy. Unlike Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Dead or Alive, King of Fighters and Virtua Fighter; Tekken doesn't seem to have a consistent MC...

[Coola Yagami]

As far as I'm concerned I'm not sure why in 2025 there needs to be "missing" fighters in sequels to fighting games. Or at least just make them DLC right off the bat. You don't want Lei Wulong in the core game but I can spend $15 extra to download him? I won't be happy about that but I'll do it.

I agree, especially if the character is a staple or was already in the previous game.

I know sometimes it's a surprise to bring someone that's been missing for several games, but Lei Wulong is a horrible choice. He's been in every game since Tekken 2, and there is no storyline reason (death/missing) for him not to be on the base roster. Now someone like Bruce or Baek that have been missing for several games, those I get and would be a pleasant surprise for fans.

Another rule should be, if the character was already DLC in the last game, they either don't come back or if they do, they should be base roster. Leroy, Lidia and Fahkurahm were all DLC in Tekken 7, I have no idea why Leroy was base roster but you had to pay again for the other two.

Same for Dead or Alive where Mai, Nyotengu, Momiji, Rachael and Alpha were all paid DLC in DOA5... and then again in DOA6. But somehow the later additions to 5, Marie and Honoka were base roster in 6.



And speaking of which, who's Tekken's face/MC? A lot of people assume Jin is... but he only debuted in T3. Before that, Kazuya was the poster boy. Unlike Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Dead or Alive, King of Fighters and Virtua Fighter; Tekken doesn't seem to have a consistent MC...

When it comes to Tekken it's usually the Mishimas. if we had to chose a face, it would have be Kazuya and Jin since they've been the main characters of most games.

Tekken 1 was Heihachi
Tekken 2 was Kayuza
Tekken 3 was Jin
Tekken 4 also Jin
Tekken 5 also Jin, I know Asuka made her debut but she had almost no involvement in the story
Tekken 6 more Kazuya though it can be argued that it's Kazuya/Jin
Tekken 7- pretty much Heihachi, Kazuya and Jin
Tekken 8- Reina though I'm sure also Kazuya and Jin

[IMJ]

This convo really makes me wish there'd be a Tekken 1-3 remaster package or something like that....

[Andrew NDB]

When it comes to Tekken it's usually the Mishimas. if we had to chose a face, it would have be Kazuya and Jin since they've been the main characters of most games.

Tekken 1 was Heihachi
Tekken 2 was Kayuza
Tekken 3 was Jin
Tekken 4 also Jin
Tekken 5 also Jin, I know Asuka made her debut but she had almost no involvement in the story
Tekken 6 more Kazuya though it can be argued that it's Kazuya/Jin
Tekken 7- pretty much Heihachi, Kazuya and Jin
Tekken 8- Reina though I'm sure also Kazuya and Jin

And here's who canonically "won" the different King of Iron Fist Tournaments:

T1: Kazuya Mishima.
T2: Heihachi Mishima.
T3: Jin Kazama (defeats Ogre, though Paul Phoenix technically beat Ogre first).
T4: Kazuya Mishima.
T5: Jin Kazama (defeats his grandfather, Jinpachi Mishima).
T6: None (Tournament was canceled due to Jin's disappearance).
T7: None (Tournament was canceled due to Heihachi being declared dead).
T8: None (Tournament was canceled due to an attack from the UN & Yggdrasil).

This convo really makes me wish there'd be a Tekken 1-3 remaster package or something like that....

Tekken All-Stars Vol. 1 (Tekken 1-3 + Tekken Tag 1) + Tekken All-Stars Vol. 2 (Tekken 4-6 + Tekken Tag 2) is the way to go!

[Prowler]

The arcade versions of the first 3 Tekken games are in Tekken 5. That was pretty cool back in 2005 or whenever T5 came out.

But honestly, Tekken is fine and all but it's quite surprising it used to sell so well back in the PS1-PS2 days compared to Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat. I don't think Tekken ever managed to influence pop culture as much as SF and MK have. Everybody can name SF and MK characters and a couple of special moves form those games. You even had the SF car bonus stage making it into a commercial many years ago. Can anyone that's not a gamer name a single Tekken character or special move?

[IMJ]

Tekken All-Stars Vol. 1 (Tekken 1-3 + Tekken Tag 1) + Tekken All-Stars Vol. 2 (Tekken 4-6 + Tekken Tag 2) is the way to go!


Really?
What system was that for?
I'm a recovering "gamer" dude. I saw myself out of it YEARS ago in any meaningful way.

[Andrew NDB]

Really?
What system was that for?
I'm a recovering "gamer" dude. I saw myself out of it YEARS ago in any meaningful way.

Oh no, I was just dreaming there. But there's no good reason we couldn't have that, and pretty quickly. If Namco was Konami we might still be on Tekken 7 but we'd probably have like 6 different collections of all the Tekken games by now.

[Prowler]

The thing about fighting game collections... you gotta have online since the competitive scene is a crucial part of fighting games. That requires a good online and match-making service.

The 90s 2D Street Fighter and KOF games can easily be played on Fightcade and SF also has an anniversary collection that lets you play Super Turbo, 3rd Strike and Alpha 3 online. Possibly Champion Edition too idk.

Tekken 3 and 5 would definitely need online play. T1 most likely not. T2... perhaps. No idea about T4.

[Andrew NDB]

I should look into emulating the Tekkens. It really is bizarre there is no "normal" way to play Tekken 1-6 on modern machines.

[Prowler]

I should look into emulating the Tekkens. It really is bizarre there is no "normal" way to play Tekken 1-6 on modern machines.

PS1 and PS2 are very easy to emulate, fortunately. The Wii is the last home console that was truly simple to emulate. Anything beyond that and it's a pain in the ass, even portable devices like the Vita. No more "download rom, put it in your emulator folder and that's it".

[Andrew NDB]

PS1 and PS2 are very easy to emulate, fortunately. The Wii is the last home console that was truly simple to emulate. Anything beyond that and it's a pain in the ass, even portable devices like the Vita. No more "download rom, put it in your emulator folder and that's it".

Refreshing my memory. Looks like Tekken 5 originally came out on PS2 but the Dark Resurrection version did hit PS3. And Tekken 6 is a PS3 game, of course. I'm not sure if I've emulated any PS3 games yet but I might have.

[Prowler]

Refreshing my memory. Looks like Tekken 5 originally came out on PS2 but the Dark Resurrection version did hit PS3. And Tekken 6 is a PS3 game, of course. I'm not sure if I've emulated any PS3 games yet but I might have.

I only own Tekken 5 vanilla. It was actually my first Tekken, in fact. Looked pretty damn great for its time and holds up well graphically to this day imo. Never played Dark Resurrection. What are the key differences between it and vanilla?

Emulating PS3 and 360 games requires a good PC, from what I hear.

[Prowler]

Wait isn't Tekken 3 available on the PS5? Digital format ofc.

[Andrew NDB]

Wait isn't Tekken 3 available on the PS5? Digital format ofc.

If I'm not mistaken, Dark Resurrection may be one of -- if not the first -- console-based software upgrade. i.e., you put the Tekken 5 PS2 version into your PS3, then can pay a little bit and download the Dark Resurrection patch to basically upgrade your game to the PS3 version. Just like when you put Breath of the Wild into your Switch 2 and pay $10 for the Switch 2 upgrade.

[Andrew NDB]

Update: so it only took me about 20 minutes to get MK vs DC Universe and Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection for PS3 up and running on my PC in console-perfect performance. Complete with my PS5 controller. And they look much better than originally because the emulators can tap into your 2025 video cards and upscale the graphics. Can't do much for FMV, of course. The ROMs are NOT hard to find. When I couldn't figure out how to add the files I got for Tekken 5 a quick Google search provided an obvious (and easy) answer.

This is actually all really cool. It's fun to play with the graphical settings now in the emulator. Even with the PS1 Tekken 1-3 games you can boost the polygon output to 4K if you really want to. I find that the sweet spot is 720p for PS1, and 1080p for PS2, and shoot straight for 4K with PS3. They all look GREAT as such, better than ever.

Sidenote: I completely forgot that Tekken 1 and 2 (2 with some character exceptions)... NOT 3D fighting games! There is no sidestepping functionality. This began with only a couple characters in 2 like with Lei Wulong and then became available for all beginning with 3.

[Prowler]

Some quick research tells me T2, T3 and T6 are available on the PS5.

[Andrew NDB]

Some quick research tells me T2, T3 and T6 are available on the PS5.

True. Although Tekken 6 on PS5 is the damn PSP version and boy does it show. Super pixelated. No clue why they did the PSP version there.

[Prowler]

True. Although Tekken 6 on PS5 is the damn PSP version and boy does it show. Super pixelated. No clue why they did the PSP version there.

That's a strange choice.

But at least Sony went back to making the Playstation backwards compatible with previous ones. I guess they learned from their mistake of not making the PS4 backwards compatible with the PS3. The PS3 was also backwards compatible with the PS2 at first but other models came out afterwards that weren't. Ridiculous.

[Coola Yagami]

True. Although Tekken 6 on PS5 is the damn PSP version and boy does it show. Super pixelated. No clue why they did the PSP version there.

I didn't read the fine print and found out after the fact that it was the dumbass PSP version. What were they thinking?? That only made sense if the console version didn't exist but it does.

[Andrew NDB]

So I guess Namco did a poll and most people wanted to see Ogre from Tekken 3... but instead of just doing that they created this... thing instead.

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And still no Lei Wulong.

I take it back. Playing as her is actually really fun. Her moves lend well to my general Tekken sensibilities.

[Coola Yagami]

I take it back. Playing as her is actually really fun. Her moves lend well to my general Tekken sensibilities.

I've heard she's a lot of fun to use but deals little damage. I'll eventually buckle down and get the DLC characters.

[Prowler]

Tekken should bring back minigames and sidegakes. Like that old arcade game by Namco when you booted up Tekken 5 or The Devil's Jin game in Tekken 5 as well. Speaking of which, I never beat that goddamn thing :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

Tekken 8 includes Tekken Ball. Like a volleyball game where you smack a big ball toward the other guy.

Tekken Bowl was cooller.

[Prowler]

Tekken Ball kinda sucks, which is why I forgot about it until you mentioned it. And honestly, Dead or Alive pulled off beach volleyball way better 20 years or so before Tekken 8 came out, which make Tekken Ball quite pathetic.

Never played TTT2 but Tekken Bowl does look cool indeed.

[Andrew NDB]

Never played TTT2 but Tekken Bowl does look cool indeed.

It was in TTT1 as well. And Tekken 7 as DLC. It's actually a REALLY good bowling game even on its own merit.

Yeah, Tekken Ball sucks. I tried it once and went "Nope!"

[Prowler]

It was in TTT1 as well. And Tekken 7 as DLC. It's actually a REALLY good bowling game even on its own merit.

Yeah, Tekken Ball sucks. I tried it once and went "Nope!"

I don't remember it tbh. I guess I didn't buy the DLC in T7 that included it or something. As for TTT1, I played it on an emulator eons ago and don't remember it either.

Speaking of T7 it was a fine game and all but the single player content was rather poor. Once you were done with the story mode, that was it. Arcade mode was so bare bones. I understand fighting games must prioritize the competitive scene but I only play Street Fighter competitively, so I need solid single player content in Tekken to keep me interested. Mortal Kombat does the single player content thing the right way with its tower challenges.

[Andrew NDB]

Speaking of T7 it was a fine game and all but the single player content was rather poor. Once you were done with the story mode, that was it.

How is that much different than almost any other fighting game? Generally there is some kind of "story mode" which is the way Mortal Kombat and Tekken have been doing lately which has a beginning, middle and ending, and then some kind of arcade mode or solo mode that also has a more abbreviated ending specific to the character you choose. But you generally don't get much more than that out of fighting games.

Arcade mode was so bare bones. I understand fighting games must prioritize the competitive scene but I only play Street Fighter competitively, so I need solid single player content in Tekken to keep me interested. Mortal Kombat does the single player content thing the right way with its tower challenges.

I'm not sure how MK's tower challenges are any different from "Arcade Mode" in Tekken. Minus the tower.

Speaking of single-player, yesterday I finally sat down and played through the whole story mode of Tekken 8. Tekken's story has gotten sooooo convoluted and ludicrous (the entire world has been taken over by Mishima Zaibatsu now? the King of Iron Fist Tournament 8 is now to determine which countries WON'T be destroyed? like, if you fight for Colombia and win, Colombia doesn't get zapped) but it works well enough. It's all Jin's story, really, and how he can get his devil mojo back. The last chapter is super annoying in that it makes you (as Jin) fight Kazuya about 7 or 8 times back to back. And annoyingly many of those times when you win, it'll cut to cinematics where Jin is getting beat up by Kazuya. I found myself yelling at the screen: "Whaaat the F******?!? How many times do I need to beat this guy?!!?" You actually fight in outer space! I do really hope they're done with the Jin-Kazuya-Heihachi-Devil stuff after this.

Also, starting with I believe Tekken 7 Namco stopped dubbing all the characters. So it's pretty ridiculous (also annoying) that everyone in the story mode just talks in their own native language and pretends like they can understand everyone else. Which is fine when it's just a couple of Japanese characters talking amongst themselves... but there's whole scenes where there's a French guy speaking French, a German speaking German, a Japanese guy speaking Japanese, an American speaking English, and a Chinese woman speaking Chinese, and they're all understanding each other perfectly.

[Prowler]

How is that much different than almost any other fighting game? Generally there is some kind of "story mode" which is the way Mortal Kombat and Tekken have been doing lately which has a beginning, middle and ending, and then some kind of arcade mode or solo mode that also has a more abbreviated ending specific to the character you choose. But you generally don't get much more than that out of fighting games.



I'm not sure how MK's tower challenges are any different from "Arcade Mode" in Tekken. Minus the tower.

Speaking of single-player, yesterday I finally sat down and played through the whole story mode of Tekken 8. Tekken's story has gotten sooooo convoluted and ludicrous (the entire world has been taken over by Mishima Zaibatsu now? the King of Iron Fist Tournament 8 is now to determine which countries WON'T be destroyed? like, if you fight for Colombia and win, Colombia doesn't get zapped) but it works well enough. It's all Jin's story, really, and how he can get his devil mojo back. The last chapter is super annoying in that it makes you (as Jin) fight Kazuya about 7 or 8 times back to back. And annoyingly many of those times when you win, it'll cut to cinematics where Jin is getting beat up by Kazuya. I found myself yelling at the screen: "Whaaat the F******?!? How many times do I need to beat this guy?!!?" You actually fight in outer space! I do really hope they're done with the Jin-Kazuya-Heihachi-Devil stuff after this.

Also, starting with I believe Tekken 7 Namco stopped dubbing all the characters. So it's pretty ridiculous (also annoying) that everyone in the story mode just talks in their own native language and pretends like they can understand everyone else. Which is fine when it's just a couple of Japanese characters talking amongst themselves... but there's whole scenes where there's a French guy speaking French, a German speaking German, a Japanese guy speaking Japanese, an American speaking English, and a Chinese woman speaking Chinese, and they're all understanding each other perfectly.
Tekken 7 lacks team battle mode and the arcade mode is REALLY short. It has the shortest arcade mode of any Tekken game I've played, really. Also, remember the game had some budget cuts and it shows. Tekken 5 is quite older and offered a Devil Jin side game, a very long arcade mode that was separate from the story mode for each character that let you rank up as you faced tougher CPU enemies. And you also had the arcade versions of the first 3 Tekken games included in case you wanted to go for a nostalgia spin.

The language aspect is a running joke in Tekken. You're not meant to take it seriously, really. How do human characters understand Kuma's and Panda's growls? Why does King, a human being, seems unable to talk and only growls as if he was a puma or whatever feline that mask is? Shouldn't he speak Spanish or something?

And it was worse when they didn't have voice actors for every single language, which made the whole thing more inconsistent. Christie and Eddy were still speaking English in Tekken 5 instead of Brazilian Portuguese, for example. At least make the absurdity of it consistent lol

[Andrew NDB]

Tekken 7 lacks team battle mode and the arcade mode is REALLY short.

For sure, very bite sized. But Tekken 7 has a HUGE cast of characters.

Tekken 5 is quite older and offered a Devil Jin side game, a very long arcade mode that was separate from the story mode for each character that let you rank up as you faced tougher CPU enemies. And you also had the arcade versions of the first 3 Tekken games included in case you wanted to go for a nostalgia spin.

DEFINITELY there was awesome minigames in Tekkens prior to 7. Tekken Force and all that stuff. It's really weird they wouldn't want those games still playable today as that was all pretty involved.

[Andrew NDB]

Update: I've been continuing my deep dive into Tekken 8 and I just realized something AWFUL. They COMPLETELY ruined Eddy! None of his moves are actually there anymore! In all previous games you could handstand helicopter kick around the screen capoeira-style but all of that is gone! Replaced with just a bunch of quick double kicks. I thought they just changed the way you execute the moves or I was somehow really rusty with him, but upon a Google search, nope... Namco nerfed him utterly.

Unbelievable! This coupled with Lei Wulong not even being there... they've stripped literally all the things I enjoyed in Tekken for years now.

Also at further examination, they've REALLY dumbed down Tekken in 8. These one button "Heat" moves you can do, with 2 pre-loaded each fight are for new players to get cheap hits in, and the one button Fury move you can devastate your opponent with only rewards the loser by losing enough health to GET a Fury move.

Very maddening. This game is a huge step back. I'm going back to playing Tekken 7.