New Karate Kid movie (Karate Kid 5)

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-the-karate-kid-film-announced/

[CyberCubed]

Seems strange to do this, but maybe Cobra Kai will be over by 2024? Either way I don't know what they can do. The whole show is about Daniel/Johnny already training the next generation of kids into fighters. So what can a movie do with the same premise that's already done? Going back to training just 1 kid again would be a downgrade and also re-tread what they just did with Miguel in the first season too.

[Andrew NDB]

Seems strange to do this, but maybe Cobra Kai will be over by 2024? Either way I don't know what they can do. The whole show is about Daniel/Johnny already training the next generation of kids into fighters. So what can a movie do with the same premise that's already done? Going back to training just 1 kid again would be a downgrade and also re-tread what they just did with Miguel in the first season too.

For all we know it's a prequel from when Mr. Miyagi was a kid. I doubt they'd do a direct Cobra Kai spinoff into film.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, it's not even from the same guys as Cobra Kai and they have no involvement.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-karate-kid-not-part-of-cobra-kai/

You'd think they'd at least peripherally involve the creators in it, though. Definitely smells like "Miyagi Origins" to me.

[Andrew NDB]

Now it's getting really weird. Jackie Chan is in talks to be in it, apparently reprising his role from the Karate Kid remake that was said not to be a part of the original Karate Kid universe? But maybe not?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/jackie-chan-in-talks-for-new-karate-kid/

[Sumac]

Chan wants those Hollywood money?
Goodspeed.

[Barkworm]

I've never watched Jackie Chan's 'Karate Kid' but as far as I got it, it's about a kid who goes to China and learns Kung Fu?! Which is a bit like remaking 'The Pianist' with Adrian Brody without renaming it but it's about a German dude who plays the organ.

[sdp]

I've never watched Jackie Chan's 'Karate Kid' but as far as I got it, it's about a kid who goes to China and learns Kung Fu?! Which is a bit like remaking 'The Pianist' with Adrian Brody without renaming it but it's about a German dude who plays the organ.

apparently the bullies were going to call Jaden Smith's the Karate Kid to mock him in the movie but I don't think that actually made it in the final film. It's a good movie, I recommend it, far better than the other sequels. The themes are pretty much the same as the original Karate Kid but they're different characters and besides parallels they are different stories so it could definitely be in continuity with the Miyagiverse.

[Sumac]

I found it to be boring.

[ZariusTwo]

New details. Ralph Macchio returning and Jackie Chan reprising his role from the 2010 movie

https://deadline.com/2023/11/new-karate-kid-movie-jackie-chan-ralph-macchio-1235631922/

[XERO]

I'm bound by intrigue to see this through.

[Zulithe]

I hope this new movie considers the events of the cobra kai series. Would be cool if that show remains in the canon.

Looks like they have an OPEN casting call for the new kid. If you know any kids into acting or martial arts... i'd have them try out (submit a video, etc.)

They say they are looking for a teen with chinese or half-chinese heritage in the casting call. But ehh, i'm sure they can be flexible on that if they find someone they really like

[oldmanwinters]

New details. Ralph Macchio returning and Jackie Chan reprising his role from the 2010 movie

https://deadline.com/2023/11/new-karate-kid-movie-jackie-chan-ralph-macchio-1235631922/

What a weird timeline we live in.

[CyberCubed]

Considering Cobra Kai season 6 will also air next year I am sure it will remain canon. Wasn't Jackie playing the same guy as his old master though with the same exact name? How will they handle that?

[CyberCubed]

It really blows my mind how this franchise just exploded in popularity, when it really only had one popular movie over 35 years ago. The sequels were never well liked back in the day.

[Andrew NDB]

New details. Ralph Macchio returning and Jackie Chan reprising his role from the 2010 movie

https://deadline.com/2023/11/new-karate-kid-movie-jackie-chan-ralph-macchio-1235631922/

Wow, weird! Some crazy conversations much have happened because the Cobra Kai guys told us if anyone were to watch "The Karate Kid" in the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai universe, they'd be watching the Jackie Chan movie.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/quick-news-hamlet-karate-rip-peaky-jedi/

It's called Karate Kid: Legends.

There is also the chance that no one is talking about. This might all be a big meta thing... like about some kid who's a fan of the Karate Kid movies.

[Andrew NDB]

Trailer:

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[CyberCubed]

Looks fine, I hope Jackie Chan gets to do more in this movie but given his age probably not. My guess is we'll just see Larusso and nothing of his family, not his wife and not Sam or any major characters from the show. They'll want this to stand on its own for people who didn't watch the series. We'll get minor references and I doubt Johnny will appear either.

[Andrew NDB]

Looks fine, I hope Jackie Chan gets to do more in this movie but given his age probably not. My guess is we'll just see Larusso and nothing of his family, not his wife and not Sam or any major characters from the show. They'll want this to stand on its own for people who didn't watch the series. We'll get minor references and I doubt Johnny will appear either.

I'd bet on some Cobra Kai-heavy stuff in the after-credits. If anything. But yeah, only vague mentions of the events of Cobra Kai throughout the main movie from Daniel.

[Barkworm]

I have no clue about the franchise apart from having seen the first two films when I was 13 or 14. But I have to say, this looks really fun.

[XERO]

I was already gonna watch this, but Jackie Chan is a guarantee.

[Andrew NDB]

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New trailer.

[Andrew NDB]

So there's a story about Courtney Henggeler today, who played Daniel's wife on Cobra Kai. Apparently she had been following the director of this movie until just the other day, when she deleted him from everything. And then today she announced on her platforms that -- suddenly, and effective immediately -- after 20 years of acting, she's retiring from acting.

The rumor is that she did film some scenes for this movie and they were cut... or there was at least some initial contact with her about something small in this, and they decided to kill off her character between Cobra Kai and this, to make Daniel more grief-stricken and broken.

[CyberCubed]

Not sure I believe that yet, I think just she and Sam will be elsewhere to be absent in the movie.

I looked up the actress and she's only 46? Given Ralph is 63 and their characters are probably around the same age as they are in real life, why did they set him up with a wife whose almost 20 years younger than he is? I guess Daniel likes them young.

[Andrew NDB]

Not sure I believe that yet, I think just she and Sam will be elsewhere to be absent in the movie.

I looked up the actress and she's only 46? Given Ralph is 63 and their characters are probably around the same age as they are in real life

DEFINITELY not. Daniel is not a 63 year-old in Cobra Kai. Remember, he was 16 in all 3 Karate Kid movies, and only about a year and a half has passed between all 6 seasons of Cobra Kai that came out over 7 years.

We can actually figure this out. If Daniel was 16 in 1984, he'd be exactly 50 years old when Cobra Kai season 1 came out in 2018. So only about 51 and some change by the end of the show?

[IMJ]

This looks decent enough to watch, but I'm feeling it should have been a Netflix movie. Wouldn't pay to see it in the theater.

[XERO]

DEFINITELY not. Daniel is not a 63 year-old in Cobra Kai. Remember, he was 16 in all 3 Karate Kid movies, and only about a year and a half has passed between all 6 seasons of Cobra Kai that came out over 7 years.

We can actually figure this out. If Daniel was 16 in 1984, he'd be exactly 50 years old when Cobra Kai season 1 came out in 2018. So only about 51 and some change by the end of the show?

About 52 the most at the end of the show, yeah. Given that the new movie is 3 years later (2023-ish), he'd be 53-54 when he meets Han.

It's crazy, even with the first 3 movies, the timeline was slow as f*ck. Haha. Feels, like I'm watching DBZ all over again. :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

This looks decent enough to watch, but I'm feeling it should have been a Netflix movie. Wouldn't pay to see it in the theater.

I'll see it in theaters but I don't blame you. There's nothing really for "the fans" to get excited about. If Cobra Kai had never come out, maybe this would have been a BIG event! But it did, so seeing Daniel Larusso like 3 months after we just got done seeing him in Cobra Kai isn't a very big deal. And I don't know that the Jackie Chan movie is super loved, so combining him here with Daniel sort of undermines each of them a bit. Is anyone excited about the new Karate Kid? I can't imagine so. We just had 6 seasons of a Karate Kid show where everybody could pick their favorite Karate Kid out of a dozen or so that we just watched grow and evolve.

It's kind of an oddity. And if it's successful, the plan is Karate Kid Legends 2? And we just keep following this new kid around to new tournaments or something?

[member_removed]

It's kind of an oddity. And if it's successful, the plan is Karate Kid Legends 2? And we just keep following this new kid around to new tournaments or something?

The return of Hilary Swank. Boom, book it!

[neatoman]

So I'm guessing Jaden Smith won't be in this?

[IMJ]

So I'm guessing Jaden Smith won't be in this?

About the only movie that Jaden Smith is fit to film would be "The Cell 2" if they ever made it..... he dresses like Carl Stargher already.

[Andrew NDB]

The return of Hilary Swank. Boom, book it!

I'm still angry they dropped the ball with her on Cobra Kai. There are ways to do something with her now that would be neat.

So I'm guessing Jaden Smith won't be in this?

Remember, since the Karate Kid remake Will Smith himself has been a producer on everything Karate Kid (his name is on every episode of Cobra Kai, for example). Point being, this movie didn't happen without his blessing. And if Jaden Smith wanted a small part in it, you can bet he got one. Or at least a cameo.

[CyberCubed]

The choreography in the trailer makes the fights look much better than Cobra Kai. Helps the actor they chose actually knows karate in real life instead of kids trying to be good at karate like the Cobra Kai actors were. You can easily tell the difference between a professional doing it their whole lives than a bunch of teens quickly told basic martial arts while acting and filming the eps at the same time.

[oldmanwinters]

The return of Hilary Swank. Boom, book it!

I'm still angry they dropped the ball with her on Cobra Kai. There are ways to do something with her now that would be neat.




Digging deeper into the whole "Alpha Elite" organization would be worth at least one movie or season.

[Andrew NDB]

Helps the actor they chose actually knows karate in real life instead of kids trying to be good at karate like the Cobra Kai actors were.

Yeah, but can he act? There's a reason all the actual boxers in the Rocky movies are infinitely less interesting to watch than the actors pretending to be boxers in them.

[oldmanwinters]

So there's a story about Courtney Henggeler today, who played Daniel's wife on Cobra Kai. Apparently she had been following the director of this movie until just the other day, when she deleted him from everything. And then today she announced on her platforms that -- suddenly, and effective immediately -- after 20 years of acting, she's retiring from acting.

The rumor is that she did film some scenes for this movie and they were cut... or there was at least some initial contact with her about something small in this, and they decided to kill off her character between Cobra Kai and this, to make Daniel more grief-stricken and broken.

Thought occurred to me today...

Isn't the final shot of Cobra Kai just Daniel and Johnny getting food in a diner strategizing how they will encourage their students to cross-train each other's discipline... set in early 2020?

So what if they were hinting they would work the real-life pandemic into the show's timeline. Does Amanda die of "the 'rona" or something related? Does it sink the LaRusso auto business? Do all the kids have to put their college and training plans on hold?

[Andrew NDB]

Does Amanda die of "the 'rona" or something related?

And we pretend COVID was killing off skinny 40 year-olds? Maybe. Probably cancer.

There's probably something to this, for some reason they want to specifically put 3 in-story years between Cobra Kai and Karate Kid Legends (almost like they wanted to give Daniel enough time in-story to largely get over some kind of traumatic loss). At the end of Cobra Kai Daniel was still being -- enthusiastically -- a sensei, but at the start of Karate Kid Legends he doesn't want anything to do with being a sensei at first.

So what happened? What changed?

[oldmanwinters]

And we pretend COVID was killing off skinny 40 year-olds? Maybe. Probably cancer.

They would have still counted that "Death due to 'rona" back then! :tlol::tcouch:

The Cobra Kai show went to great lengths to play up how good Daniel had life to paint him as a foil to Johnny's new underdog status.
But I guess if you're doing a movie with him as a focal character, you have to tear him down several pegs to give him a new character growth arc.

[Andrew NDB]

The Cobra Kai show went to great lengths to play up how good Daniel had life to paint him as a foil to Johnny's new underdog status.
But I guess if you're doing a movie with him as a focal character, you have to tear him down several pegs to give him a new character growth arc.

I guess so. Plus, "OK, Jackie Chan... let me put my marriage, my automobile business and my dojo all on hold so I can travel around the world with you to train a rando" has to somehow make sense.

But maaan... if they really do kill off his wife that's going to royally piss off Cobra Kai fans. Like, the movie would go from most fans' being like "meh!" about it, to now hating on it because instead of doing nothing new with the KK/Cobra Kai material, it would actively be hurting it.

On the plus side... hey, maybe Daniel CAN end up with Kumiko now!

[IMJ]

I finally wrapped up season 5 of Cobra Kai about 20 minutes ago. As ridiculous as the show can be with the awful, Power Rangers level Karate, I have to say that seeing Daniel finally take Silva down was really gratifying.

Curious about the final season now, although I have no idea if I'll plow through it or if I'll watch several episodes, lose interest and finish it next year, which is basically what I did across the first 5. :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

I finally wrapped up season 5 of Cobra Kai about 20 minutes ago. As ridiculous as the show can be with the awful, Power Rangers level Karate, I have to say that seeing Daniel finally take Silva down was really gratifying.

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It was an epic season ender. Never in a million years would I have ever imagined we'd get to see a mature Daniel actually going one on one with Terry Silver in all the time since Karate Kid 3. So, so thrilling. Honestly, the whole show could have ended right there and it would have been a satisfying ending.

If you think about it, we've really seen it all at this point. By Cobra Kai's end we got to see just about every combination of Daniel, Johnny, Silver, Kreese, and Chozen fighting each other. We even got to to see Mike Barnes vs. Chozen and vs. Johnny.

Curious about the final season now, although I have no idea if I'll plow through it or if I'll watch several episodes, lose interest and finish it next year, which is basically what I did across the first 5. :lol:

It moves pretty quickly after the first couple in season 6. My interest was definitely firmly held. I watched them all with my daughter and then happily watched them all again with my wife the week after that.

The not great in season 6:

* The "Miyagi Mystery" stuff did end up being a letdown. I think largely because the big reveals there were going to come from Julie/Hilary Swank but they didn't even bother to try and secure her until fairly late into things.

* The virtual reality training stuff with the Binary Brothers near the end was really, really stupid. I'd have just cut that stuff out entirely.

* No Aisha cameo at all? Even supporting them from the crowd?

* No Kumiko at all? After tease after tease?

* CGI Mr. Miyagi. It could have been a lot worse but it also could have been a lot better.

[CyberCubed]

I wonder if there's some behind the scenes drama with Aisha, and why that fat black girl was completely jettisoned from the series. Remember she was Johnny's very FIRST student in Cobra Kai besides Miguel. It felt like she was going to be important, and she fit the "demographics" that netflix likes for the modern audience (fat, black, and female), so I'm really surprised she just vanished.

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder if there's some behind the scenes drama with Aisha, and why that fat black girl was completely jettisoned from the series. Remember she was Johnny's very FIRST student in Cobra Kai besides Miguel. It felt like she was going to be important, and she fit the "demographics" that netflix likes for the modern audience (fat, black, and female), so I'm really surprised she just vanished.

The writers/showrunners have been pressed on this and they won't come out and say it, but the gist of it is that what they wanted out of Aisha the character, the actress wasn't able to give them. Which is why they created Tori. And then they decided that with Tori, now there wasn't any room for Aisha.

I say that's bullsh**, though. They could've just cut Penis Breath or somebody to at least once in a while get new "Aisha moments."

[oldmanwinters]

On the plus side... hey, maybe Daniel CAN end up with Kumiko now!

Manifestation, right there!

[Stu_Padasso]

So what if they were hinting they would work the real-life pandemic into the show's timeline. Does Amanda die of "the 'rona" or something related? Does it sink the LaRusso auto business? Do all the kids have to put their college and training plans on hold?

Somehow, I seriously doubt that will happen. Check out Jackie Chan’s Wikipedia article. While you’re at it, check out who was in Mutant Mayhem and then watch and pay close attention to the opening credits of the Platinum Dunes movies. Then ask yourself why all three movies dumped almost all of the Japanese aspects of the Turtles backstory like Hamato Yoshi and Tang Shen.

Go in expecting to see all sorts of neat stunts showing off how awesome traditional Chinese martial arts are.

[Andrew NDB]

Somehow, I seriously doubt that will happen. Check out Jackie Chan’s Wikipedia article. While you’re at it, check out who was in Mutant Mayhem and then watch and pay close attention to the opening credits of the Platinum Dunes movies. Then ask yourself why all three movies dumped almost all of the Japanese aspects of the Turtles backstory like Hamato Yoshi and Tang Shen.

Go in expecting to see all sorts of neat stunts showing off how awesome traditional Chinese martial arts are.

You're onto something that's been very real for a while now. I think the best example would be Pacific Rim 2. The well loved Japanese lady from the first movie is almost immediately killed off, and now there's suddenly a big Chinese presence out of nowhere.

Although, a nice side effect of China cutting down on US releases in China (https://www.darkhorizons.com/china-announces-u-s-film-import-reduction/) may eventually make these kinds of moves go away entirely?

[Stu_Padasso]

You're onto something that's been very real for a while now. I think the best example would be Pacific Rim 2. The well loved Japanese lady from the first movie is almost immediately killed off, and now there's suddenly a big Chinese presence out of nowhere.

Although, a nice side effect of China cutting down on US releases in China (https://www.darkhorizons.com/china-announces-u-s-film-import-reduction/) may eventually make these kinds of moves go away entirely?

Don’t forget how the US and the Japanese facing off against each other in Captain America 4 doesn’t make any sense.

Also, “If they can’t stand, they can’t fight?”

Apparently, all those cops, bouncers, wrestlers and jujitsu guys I’ve met were doing things wrong?

[Andrew NDB]

Don’t forget how the US and the Japanese facing off against each other in Captain America 4 doesn’t make any sense.

Also, “If they can’t stand, they can’t fight?”

Apparently, all those cops, bouncers, wrestlers and jujitsu guys I’ve met were doing things wrong?

Ohhhh yeah. That OBVIOUSLY should have been China in Captain America 4. The substitution of Japan is completely bonkers in any real sense.

[oldmanwinters]

Also, “If they can’t stand, they can’t fight?”


It's a good sound bite though.

Don’t forget how the US and the Japanese facing off against each other in Captain America 4 doesn’t make any sense.

Also, “If they can’t stand, they can’t fight?”

Apparently, all those cops, bouncers, wrestlers and jujitsu guys I’ve met were doing things wrong?

Ohhhh yeah. That OBVIOUSLY should have been China in Captain America 4. The substitution of Japan is completely bonkers in any real sense.

Wouldn't have surprised Steve Rogers though.

[Stu_Padasso]

It's a good sound bite though.

Not if you’ve ever watched a high school wrestling match which is pretty much everyone.

Wouldn't have surprised Steve Rogers though.

If he was still frozen or if he held onto some sort of grudge against the Japanese like my great uncle did after fighting them in the Pacific where Japanese officers would cut his his fellow Marines who were injured on the battlefield in half with their swords.

A lot has changed in the past 80 years.

R.I.P. Uncle Buck.

[Andrew NDB]

If he was still frozen or if he held onto some sort of grudge against the Japanese

Devil's advocate here but... are we sure Steve got frozen after Pearl Harbor? He probably did, but do we know that?

[oldmanwinters]

Devil's advocate here but... are we sure Steve got frozen after Pearl Harbor? He probably did, but do we know that?

I legit never considered Rogers being in the war prior to Pearl Harbor.

[oldmanwinters]

So… TV commercials already pushing this movie hard despite the late May release date.

Anybody hear any new rumors about the plot of behind-the-scenes drama?

[Coola Yagami]

I'm confused by Jackie Chan being in this since I thought the Kung Fu Kid was a remake. So is this supposed to be the same Jackie that trained Jayden or an entirely new character just happened to be also played by Jackie for some extra star power?

[sdp]

it's in continuity, always was. The movie featured different characters with a different story, only the end of the fight being copied from the original movie.

This movie is going to bomb, audiences don't want a new karate kid movie. Cobra Kai fans are going to be disappointed that this for the most part ignores the show, I mean it won't contradict it but most you're getting is some quick comment that refers to what they've been doing the past few years to catch up audiences.
The next karate kid is still the second best movie in the franchise and it's yet to be acknowledge.

[IMJ]

I think it could bomb. Not because it looks bad - it actually looks interesting to some extent. But again - probably should have been a direct-to-Netflix release.

[Andrew NDB]

it's in continuity, always was.

Not ALWAYS. There was an interview during Cobra Kai where the writers said that if you were to watch "The Karate Kid" in-universe, the movie would be the Jackie Chan "remake." Obviously this changed when Legends got greenlit.

The next karate kid is still the second best movie in the franchise and it's yet to be acknowledge.

It received plenty of acknowledgement in the last season of Cobra Kai. All the stuff with Miyagi's past and other last name was exclusively from The Next Karate Kid.

As to how Legends will do box office-wise? Jeeze, idk. Could be a lot of Cobra Kai goodwill props it up. I suspect it would at least do as good as the original Jackie Chan movie or a bit better.

[oldmanwinters]

Rumors are the movie will tease a big ole KK+CK Universe in the post-credits:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrxISVcj0CQ

[CyberCubed]

Ralph Macchio basically had no real career after awhile by the late 90's and early 2000's besides appearing in kids shows and movies nobody heard of, and now he's going to ride this second wind and milk it into the ground as much he can.

[IMJ]

Somehow, I seriously doubt that will happen. Check out Jackie Chan’s Wikipedia article. While you’re at it, check out who was in Mutant Mayhem and then watch and pay close attention to the opening credits of the Platinum Dunes movies. Then ask yourself why all three movies dumped almost all of the Japanese aspects of the Turtles backstory like Hamato Yoshi and Tang Shen.

Go in expecting to see all sorts of neat stunts showing off how awesome traditional Chinese martial arts are.

The ongoing bended knee from Hollywood to China is an ongoing embarrassment that I don't even want to begin to unpack. It's absurd.

Manifestation, right there!

I still have one season to go to finish Cobra Kai. But although I'm somewhat aware of how it plays out, I sort of imagined a happy ending for Kumiko and Chozen based on what they setup in the season with Mike Barnes....

[ResidentEvil7]

I personally can't wait to watch the upcoming movie since it'll have Jackie Chan in it. But first, I have to get to watching the last two episodes of Cobra Kai which I'll do with my mom and stepdad later today since it's Mother's Day and she wants to finish the series.

[Andrew NDB]

So it's actually "leaked" online and isn't hard to find because they released it in countries other than the US before the US.

I just peeked at it but yeah... Daniel doesn't show up until about 45 minutes in (and this is only a 90 minute movie so...) and Johnny does indeed show up at the end for a scene. He basically wants to start a pizza place with Daniel called "Miyagi-Dough" and just clowns around a little. They don't seem to be foreshadowing much of anything, really.

[Andrew NDB]

Go in expecting to see all sorts of neat stunts showing off how awesome traditional Chinese martial arts are.

OK, this actually seems pretty dead on now. Now that I've skimmed over it. You could actually delete Daniel from the movie and not lose anything.

Again, Daniel isn't brought in until 50 minutes into things. And then there's only very basic homage paid to anything before, and then Daniel's part seems to be just support, with no arc or anything of his own. It's all about the Mr. Han/new kid plot, with Daniel there to just make it slightly more palatable.I knew it'd kind of be like this, but I thought for sure if there wasn't going to be actual Cobra Kai throwbacks then at least there'd be a few more bones thrown to the Cobra Kai audience. There isn't. This is basically the Karate Kid Remake Part 2, with Daniel kind of around. Somewhere. Sometimes. He probably has a total of 10 minutes in this. He doesn't appear to talk much about his past beyond Miyagi himself and I didn't hear any Cobra Kai references.

I now don't see a huge US box office at all but maybe a bigger overseas one. This seems like a Chinese power play to co-opt the whole franchise, with minor fan throwbacks to the core stuff and only a pittance to Cobra Kai which ACTUALLY revived the franchise in a real way that is even still fresh. Like, if this does work overseas, expect even less Daniel and probably zero Cobra Kai stuff going forward. Because then their agenda succeeded.

[Stu_Padasso]

OK, this actually seems pretty dead on now. Now that I've skimmed over it. You could actually delete Daniel from the movie and not lose anything.

Again, Daniel isn't brought in until 50 minutes into things. And then there's only very basic homage paid to anything before, and then Daniel's part seems to be just support, with no arc or anything of his own. It's all about the Mr. Han/new kid plot, with Daniel there to just make it slightly more palatable.I knew it'd kind of be like this, but I thought for sure if there wasn't going to be actual Cobra Kai throwbacks then at least there'd be a few more bones thrown to the Cobra Kai audience. There isn't. This is basically the Karate Kid Remake Part 2, with Daniel kind of around. Somewhere. Sometimes. He probably has a total of 10 minutes in this. He doesn't appear to talk much about his past beyond Miyagi himself and I didn't hear any Cobra Kai references.

I now don't see a huge US box office at all but maybe a bigger overseas one. This seems like a Chinese power play to co-opt the whole franchise, with minor fan throwbacks to the core stuff and only a pittance to Cobra Kai which ACTUALLY revived the franchise in a real way that is even still fresh. Like, if this does work overseas, expect even less Daniel and probably zero Cobra Kai stuff going forward. Because then their agenda succeeded.

It wouldn’t be the first time that they have done something like that. When Bruce Lee made a lot of Chinese angry when he called out a lot of traditional martial arts as Bullshido that had never been pressure tested (possibly in part due to an incident on the set of Green Hornet where he got turned into a human pretzel by champion judoka and wrestler “Judo Gene” Lobell.) However, after he became extremely popular, there have been a lot Chinese produced movies including the Ip Man franchise featuring fictionalized versions of Bruce Lee highlighting traditional Chinese martial arts like Wing Chun. It wouldn’t surprise me if the CCP along with Lee’s estate is why there’s such a cult of personality around him now.

Meanwhile, Chinese MMA fighter Xu Xiaodong is now being forced to do the walk of shame.
https://youtu.be/8sbyqdz71Ss?si=K-ugR1ecnJbUXoAT

As an amusing side note, there have been accounts made by several witnesses on set when Lobell and Steven Seagal allegedly got into an altercation that may or may not have resulted in Seagal sh-tting his pants.

[Andrew NDB]

Let me help you out:


Meanwhile, Chinese MMA fighter Xu Xiaodong is now being forced to do the walk of shame.
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[oldmanwinters]

Practically speaking, is this Karate Kid 5 or 6?

[sdp]

Practically speaking, is this Karate Kid 5 or 6?

It's (Jackie's) Karate Kid 2

Love to see all the Cobra Kai boomers seethe over this. the Jackie Chan movie was actually my first Karate Kid movie, underrated movie.

[Andrew NDB]

Practically speaking, is this Karate Kid 5 or 6?

It's The Karate Kid Part 6. It's all one big, beautiful timeline now.

[IMJ]

Love to see all the Cobra Kai boomers seethe over this.

-shrugs- Why?

[sdp]

-shrugs- Why?

I debated for years that it didn't mess the timeline and that it was part of the series and they would dog pile my tweets with "it's not canon" "it's not part of the Miyagiverse", "not canon because the movie sucks".
Now they have to bow down to Mr. Han

[Coola Yagami]

How are you all seeing the movie? We were planning to go check it out today and found out it won't be out til Friday (or Thursday if you do a midnight screening).

[IMJ]

How are you all seeing the movie? We were planning to go check it out today and found out it won't be out til Friday (or Thursday if you do a midnight screening).

I might actually wait for Netflix on this one...

[Coola Yagami]

I might actually wait for Netflix on this one...

You just don't get the same experience watching it at home then going out to the theaters though. Also canon/noncanon and Ralph or not, as long as the main story is fine.

[IMJ]

You just don't get the same experience watching it at home then going out to the theaters though. Also canon/noncanon and Ralph or not, as long as the main story is fine.

That's true! But I'm at 100% "brew 'n view" age and this just isn't a movie I want to make a $100 night out of to be honest. And I don't really enjoy the "normie theaters" anymore for a variety of reasons - mostly around the proposition value.

I want to see it... but it lands firmly into the "Netflix and chill" category for me.

I dunno... maybe if a few of the guys here see it and pimp it enough my arm could be twisted. I mean, I haven't seen a Karate Kid movie in the theater basically since karate kid 2, dude. LOL!

[Coola Yagami]

That's true! But I'm at 100% "brew 'n view" age and this just isn't a movie I want to make a $100 night out of to be honest. And I don't really enjoy the "normie theaters" anymore for a variety of reasons - mostly around the proposition value.

I want to see it... but it lands firmly into the "Netflix and chill" category for me.

I dunno... maybe if a few of the guys here see it and pimp it enough my arm could be twisted. I mean, I haven't seen a Karate Kid movie in the theater basically since karate kid 2, dude. LOL!

I'm a sucker for the movie theater experience. I mean other than the tub of popcorn and large soda, it's not 100 bucks or so unless we decide to eat at a restaurant afterwards (though most of the time, the popcorn and soda is too filling and that cancels that plan). It's either an extra date night or a good gathering with friends. Speaking of which, I am planning on grabbing the crew for the re-release of the 90's TMNT movie since we all grew up on it.

Speaking of Karate Kid, the original trilogy was already on TV by the time I was a kid. I only got to see The Next Generation and years later Jaden Smith the Kung Fu Kid (lol) in theaters.

[Andrew NDB]

How are you all seeing the movie?

It's been on the torrents for over a week now.

Like I said, I poked around the whole "leaked" movie. Definitely it seems it will hinge on if you like the new Karate Kid character and Mr. Han. Don't expect much from Larusso beyond what you saw in the trailers. Because there isn't much else and they didn't even appear to bother to give him a subplot beyond just "being there." For the new Karate Kid.

[oldmanwinters]

The Critical Drinker's fairly non-spoilery review is up and I have a feeling I'll feel the same way about this movie:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNYFWSqOlB0

He doesn't think it's "bad". Doesn't think it's "good." Doesn't think it offends the franchise's lore. Just thinks it makes... "weird" cinematic choices.

[Coola Yagami]

Saw it last night. I enjoyed it for what it was. The characters were likeable and I liked the role-reversal where it was the kid teaching an adult kung fu.

While I didn't have my watch set to it, I feel Ralph was in it enough. There was enough playful banter between him and Jackie, doing some playful arguing over whose martial art was better.

I know people were upset there were no ties or references to Cobra Kai, but I mean, not everyone watched these streaming services shows and it honestly would have gone over everyone's heads for people that just watch the movies. That's why I hate the newer MCU movies making references to the Disney+ shows. Ain't no one watching all that ****.

We got free headbands with the tickets which was cool. Then we grabbed some grub. It was a fun date night.

One thing that also happened was that there were storms in the area and the power went out around the scene after Li Fong first met Mia, and everyone was just sitting there confused for what felt like 15-20 minutes. Someone did tell everyone what happened and once it's fixed they'll replay a bit before the scene where it cut, and it did. It made for a good story to tell.

[oldmanwinters]

We got free headbands with the tickets which was cool. Then we grabbed some grub. It was a fun date night.


Sounds like you did it right! Mr. Miyagi would be proud of that!

[Storm Eagle]

A 4K/Blu-ray set of the six movies will be released as an Amazon exclusive.

https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-6-Movie-Collection-Exclusive-Collectibles/dp/B0FB3JKXXD/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1MUX9WUNW2NWZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5spulhuFO1fL8vZwzETyTh9St8Dy1tuoJ fxSZhHFZ8wL_13AEXCiZvAiO0eytDTufBbGRMeOJDZOxkZAYYw MKRIvvdcZHn46YFeNLRCNrrHpA9SPRfGTO_Kqdz_nlHCVKNKCW 7WreVlWGUwYh-OA1NtV-qRJ0zBTFaE9CLdOdNDzQQ5k53BxtZzZJqmXUrkEqVNbYTzddeY zPC9xjSP38xKOhvlL34qT-Mk8KQ8uZ60.e6YWehQsGQTATwgJ6s54gVX3szE3nA83NL_p5SQ GNlY&dib_tag=se&keywords=Karate+Kid&qid=1748742204&s=movies-tv&sprefix=karate+kid%2Cmovies-tv%2C86&sr=1-4

I haven't seen Karate Kid Legends, but I decided to give the 2010 remake a try today. It's all right, but it's not something I feel compelled to own. So I think I'll pass on this set, and maybe just get a copy of Karate Kid Legends whether I see it in the theaters or not. I already have the 4K box set of the first three movies.

[oldmanwinters]

A 4K/Blu-ray set of the six movies will be released as an Amazon exclusive.

https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-6-Movie-Collection-Exclusive-Collectibles/dp/B0FB3JKXXD/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1MUX9WUNW2NWZ


Woof! For that price, the entire Cobra Kai series should have been included. That fancy packaging doesn’t justify the expense!

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, that price is crazy. Though some of those movies have never been out in 4K... but it's probably fake 4K. Where they just run the 1080p blu-ray version through a sharpening tool and add 4K grain.

[Storm Eagle]

Woof! For that price, the entire Cobra Kai series should have been included. That fancy packaging doesn’t justify the expense!

Yeah, that price is crazy. Though some of those movies have never been out in 4K... but it's probably fake 4K. Where they just run the 1080p blu-ray version through a sharpening tool and add 4K grain.

I don't believe the MSRP of the 4K trilogy set was any higher than that multiplied by two. It probably costs more because of the packaging and the extra stuff that it'll include. Not that that's an excuse. It'd probably be even worse if it included the entire Cobra Kai series. Now a complete series set of Cobra Kai is something I wouldn't mind.

[Andrew NDB]

Its not looking good for Karate Kid Legends. Opening weekend was only 21 million, compared to the opening weekend of 55 million for the first Jackie Chan Karate Kid.

[oldmanwinters]

Its not looking good for Karate Kid Legends. Opening weekend was only 21 million, compared to the opening weekend of 55 million for the first Jackie Chan Karate Kid.

Oof! What a gut punch! They probably would have been better off making a "Cobra Kai" movie.

[Andrew NDB]

Oof! What a gut punch! They probably would have been better off making a "Cobra Kai" movie.

They really should have, honestly. Or SOME kind of spinoff. There just really wasn't much of a draw here. A new Karate Kid? We just met like 30 new Karate Kids on Cobra Kai. Daniel mentoring a new Karate Kid? He did that on Cobra Kai with like 4 different Karate Kids, directly (Sam, Robby, etc.). An ultimate worldwide Karate Championship? We just had that on Cobra Kai in the Sekei Teikei.

All we're really left with is "We get to see Larusso team up with Mr. Han" but there barely is even that and I don't think anyone was even really excited to see that to begin with.

[IMJ]

This movie was never going to do well....

[Andrew NDB]

This movie was never going to do well....

I kind of thought the fresh end of the Cobra Kai phenomenon might translate into something but I guess not.

[oldmanwinters]

Ok, hear me out…

If this movie had replaced Macchio with Hilary Swank, does it make more domestically? I imagine Chan was essential to the overseas market, but Swank is probably still a bigger name for cinema than Macchio and her NKK storyline fighting some organized criminal rings arguably makes for a more organic narrative tie than Mr. Han going to New York, then going to California to bring Daniel back to New York.

[Andrew NDB]

Ok, hear me out…

If this movie had replaced Macchio with Hilary Swank, does it make more domestically? I imagine Chan was essential to the overseas market, but Swank is probably still a bigger name for cinema than Macchio and her NKK storyline fighting some organized criminal rings arguably makes for a more organic narrative tie than Mr. Han going to New York, then going to California to bring Daniel back to New York.

They honestly might as well have put Swank in there instead, and that would've made more sense. But I don't think it would have made more money.

[oldmanwinters]

Saw it last night at discount price and yeah... what a strange movie.

I actually thought the young cast (new Karate Kid, the lady friend, the wingman, and the bully) and their respective storylines were fairly interesting. New Karate Kid (aka Beijing) strikes up an interesting friendship with lady friend's dad and they share a bond about fighting so as not to get beat up by street gangs. That whole plot takes up about half the movie's runtime, hardly any Jackie Chan and no other Legacy KK characters aside from the opening scene.

Now the opening scene with KK2 flashback and AI Pat Morita voiceover expansion... it's good but the on-screen text says "Okinawa 1986." *sigh*
That's the year the KK2 movie came out but not the in-universe timeline which is pretty strict as LaRusso wins the All-Valley Tournament on December 19, 1984, spends the next summer with Miyagi going to Japan, then comes back to defend his All-Valley title in the 1985 tournament. All that stuff was emphasized HEAVILY throughout Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai's timeline tended to have some mistakes too, but COM'ON movie.

After lady friend's dad's boxing match (such a weird storyline), Karate Kid Beijing goes really depressed and distances himself from lady friend out of guilt opening up an old wound. Jackie cHan arrives and announces he's gonna train Karate Kid Beijing for the New York City Boroughs' karate tournament, which looks pretty intense because these guys are basically young MMA guys who train like boxers but just don't do all the grappling and takedown pummels. The thing is... does KK Beijing even WANT to be in the karate tournament? I never got any clear sense of that other than losing some dignity to the local hotshot Karate/boxer in some very unsanctioned face-offs.

So now Mr. cHan says "wait a minute while I go to California to see my friend." The friend is probably Mr. Miyagi not Daniel, so Jackie goes to pay tribute at Miyagi's old house. Does Mr. cHan even know if it would still be there since he already knew Miyagi died? Fortunately, Daniel just happens to walk in on him and cHan says he'll see him in New York because KK Beijing means to him what Daniel meant to Miyagi. Ok, sure.

Mr. cHan is rooftop training KK Beijing with some Rocky IV type drills then LaRusso happens to show up at just the right place. Daniel thinks it's pointless to teach in two weeks, then sees how crazy good KK Beijing can jump around and he's like "Ok, sure." They start to teach that "One Tree, Two Branches" stuff but cHan keeps recommending different ways to do the karate moves that Daniel is trying to teach. They don't really argue like Daniel and Johnny Lawrence did it Cobra Kai, but if I was Daniel I'd start to wonder why I was there.

Daniel starts to talk about using an opponent's aggression against him (like the last episode of Cobra Kai). So strangely, the tournament starts way sooner than I was expecting (they even bothered to superimpose a daily count-down on the screen but then just skipped over the last 3 or 4 in a hurry). I have no idea how many people were entered into the tourney, but it never looked like it had the participation of anything close to an All-Valley with the prelims. And KK Beijing wins his first fight which means he gets to... train a few more days until his next match. What? So much for buildup momentum. KK Beijing makes the final round and so does Bully, which means they will both... take a break for a few more days until they can hold their match on the rooftop of the skyscraper (very video game final boss).

Eventually, KK Beijing tells Daniel how he got counter-kicked in the face by the Bully (he probably jumped around too much), and then Daniel and Mr. cHan go down to the subway turn-stall to teach KK Beijing how to jump high then land really low, slide across the ground, and sweep the leg. It's an ok scene, but it presumably cost the senseis a lot of money because they had to keep buying tickets one at a time while a transit supervisor watched.

The Rooftop final match is a "First to 8 points or KO" with 1 point for body shots and 2 points for head shots (now I think real competitive karate should do something like this for ratings). There's a very generous 10-count from the referee (wouldn't fly in boxing at all), but eventually KK Beijing does the special move and wins the point. The bully has learned nothing and goes for a kill shot, then KK Beijing does his best imitation of the "Honk the Nose" and everybody is cool with it. No adult interventions or anything.

There isn't so much a post-credits scene as it is a "Pre-Credits" scene (those are so weird to me) where lady friend's dad mails a pizza to the Miyagi house and Daniel and Johnny Lawrence just happen to be there. Do they LIVE there now? Anyway, it's all kind of dumb but also the best scene in the movie simply because Johnny Lawrence gets to do his comedic bit.

Anyway, there are some REAL bad guys in the movie who are loan-sharks and probably fix fights and manipulate gambling and I THINK the head shark is also the father of the Bully. But... none of that really goes anywhere by the end. Like... one high school kid beat another in a match in front of some witnesses and I guess everybody is cool regardless of who owes money to whom and whatever happened in the past to make that a problem.

I feel like KK Beijing being so important to Mr. cHan makes "Karate Kid" (2010) even less relevant than it already was. And I remember in that movie Mr. cHan was just a handy-man who fought great but now he's a BIG deal in the Beijing dojo world.

[Coola Yagami]

Saw it last night at discount price and yeah... what a strange movie.

I actually thought the young cast (new Karate Kid, the lady friend, the wingman, and the bully) and their respective storylines were fairly interesting. New Karate Kid (aka Beijing) strikes up an interesting friendship with lady friend's dad and they share a bond about fighting so as not to get beat up by street gangs. That whole plot takes up about half the movie's runtime, hardly any Jackie Chan and no other Legacy KK characters aside from the opening scene.

Now the opening scene with KK2 flashback and AI Pat Morita voiceover expansion... it's good but the on-screen text says "Okinawa 1986." *sigh*
That's the year the KK2 movie came out but not the in-universe timeline which is pretty strict as LaRusso wins the All-Valley Tournament on December 19, 1984, spends the next summer with Miyagi going to Japan, then comes back to defend his All-Valley title in the 1985 tournament. All that stuff was emphasized HEAVILY throughout Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai's timeline tended to have some mistakes too, but COM'ON movie.

After lady friend's dad's boxing match (such a weird storyline), Karate Kid Beijing goes really depressed and distances himself from lady friend out of guilt opening up an old wound. Jackie cHan arrives and announces he's gonna train Karate Kid Beijing for the New York City Boroughs' karate tournament, which looks pretty intense because these guys are basically young MMA guys who train like boxers but just don't do all the grappling and takedown pummels. The thing is... does KK Beijing even WANT to be in the karate tournament? I never got any clear sense of that other than losing some dignity to the local hotshot Karate/boxer in some very unsanctioned face-offs.

So now Mr. cHan says "wait a minute while I go to California to see my friend." The friend is probably Mr. Miyagi not Daniel, so Jackie goes to pay tribute at Miyagi's old house. Does Mr. cHan even know if it would still be there since he already knew Miyagi died? Fortunately, Daniel just happens to walk in on him and cHan says he'll see him in New York because KK Beijing means to him what Daniel meant to Miyagi. Ok, sure.

Mr. cHan is rooftop training KK Beijing with some Rocky IV type drills then LaRusso happens to show up at just the right place. Daniel thinks it's pointless to teach in two weeks, then sees how crazy good KK Beijing can jump around and he's like "Ok, sure." They start to teach that "One Tree, Two Branches" stuff but cHan keeps recommending different ways to do the karate moves that Daniel is trying to teach. They don't really argue like Daniel and Johnny Lawrence did it Cobra Kai, but if I was Daniel I'd start to wonder why I was there.

Daniel starts to talk about using an opponent's aggression against him (like the last episode of Cobra Kai). So strangely, the tournament starts way sooner than I was expecting (they even bothered to superimpose a daily count-down on the screen but then just skipped over the last 3 or 4 in a hurry). I have no idea how many people were entered into the tourney, but it never looked like it had the participation of anything close to an All-Valley with the prelims. And KK Beijing wins his first fight which means he gets to... train a few more days until his next match. What? So much for buildup momentum. KK Beijing makes the final round and so does Bully, which means they will both... take a break for a few more days until they can hold their match on the rooftop of the skyscraper (very video game final boss).

Eventually, KK Beijing tells Daniel how he got counter-kicked in the face by the Bully (he probably jumped around too much), and then Daniel and Mr. cHan go down to the subway turn-stall to teach KK Beijing how to jump high then land really low, slide across the ground, and sweep the leg. It's an ok scene, but it presumably cost the senseis a lot of money because they had to keep buying tickets one at a time while a transit supervisor watched.

The Rooftop final match is a "First to 8 points or KO" with 1 point for body shots and 2 points for head shots (now I think real competitive karate should do something like this for ratings). There's a very generous 10-count from the referee (wouldn't fly in boxing at all), but eventually KK Beijing does the special move and wins the point. The bully has learned nothing and goes for a kill shot, then KK Beijing does his best imitation of the "Honk the Nose" and everybody is cool with it. No adult interventions or anything.

There isn't so much a post-credits scene as it is a "Pre-Credits" scene (those are so weird to me) where lady friend's dad mails a pizza to the Miyagi house and Daniel and Johnny Lawrence just happen to be there. Do they LIVE there now? Anyway, it's all kind of dumb but also the best scene in the movie simply because Johnny Lawrence gets to do his comedic bit.

Anyway, there are some REAL bad guys in the movie who are loan-sharks and probably fix fights and manipulate gambling and I THINK the head shark is also the father of the Bully. But... none of that really goes anywhere by the end. Like... one high school kid beat another in a match in front of some witnesses and I guess everybody is cool regardless of who owes money to whom and whatever happened in the past to make that a problem.

I feel like KK Beijing being so important to Mr. cHan makes "Karate Kid" (2010) even less relevant than it already was. And I remember in that movie Mr. cHan was just a handy-man who fought great but now he's a BIG deal in the Beijing dojo world.

The more I think about it, the more I think Karate Kid 2010 isn't canon, but they just brought in Mr. Han into the 'actual' lore. Just the fact that Jayden's character was never mentioned despite the fact that he was the one that got Mr. Han out of his slump similar to how Daniel got Mr. Miyagi out of his slump.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean, it's been 15 years since the Mr. Han and Jaden Smith movie. And Jaden's character was super young. Maybe Mr. Han continued managing his character in many other tournaments in those 15 years.

[Storm Eagle]

Some more things about the Karate Kid 6-movie collection.

The Karate Kid part II movie will have new special features, which are deleted scenes and dailies. Previous releases of part III have always been barebones, but in this set, it'll have deleted scenes and the complete Karate Kid animated series. That might even justify the high price tag. Its theme song is one of my personal favorites by the way. The Next Karate Kid will have deleted scenes and screen tests, and the 2010 movie will have a gag reel. Karate Kid: Legends will have featurettes that aren't yet known to us, and will also have a gag reel and deleted scenes.

The new features that part II and III will have sound so-so to me, although deleted scenes can be nice. I'm also not compelled to own The Next Karate Kid and Karate Kid 2010 either.

The swag includes a two-sided headband with the Miyagi-Do design on one side, and the Karate Kid: Legends design on the other. There are also three embroidered patches for Miyagi-Do, Cobra Kai, and Mr. Han's kung fu school, and 11 trading cards of characters from the whole series.

https://x.com/UltraHDBluray/status/1930740230900068674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1930740230900068674%7Ctwgr% 5Ec1f705262b713de8993b7cb329b2c4d0269d43aa%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rangerboard.com%2Findex. php%3Fthreads%2F182128%2Fpage-27

[CyberCubed]

Movie is out on streaming so I watched it, I liked it. But yeah it feels like two different movies in one, the whole beginning with the father doing boxing and that's just abandoned halfway into the film. Jackie Chan was likeable in the movie as always, and Daniel had a smaller role but it was fine for what he was (he doesn't appear till almost 50 minutes in the movie, and it's only a 1 hour and 24 minute film without credits). The fight scenes were good since the main actor kid actually knows karate.

Also what was with that weird rumor of Daniel's wife dying off-screen before the movie? That never happened, she simply wasn't mentioned at all. Neither was his daughter Sam so it doesn't matter. Nice to see Johnny at the very end too.

Overall 3 out of 5, mainly due to the old cast but it was ok.

[Andrew NDB]

it'll have deleted scenes and the complete Karate Kid animated series.

What is that like? Could it possibly be considered canon?

[CyberCubed]

The Karate Kid cartoon came out in 1989, it was a short-lived cartoon that only lasted 1 season and 13 episodes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Karate_Kid_(TV_series)

I doubt anyone remembers it exists, there's some eps on youtube.

[Andrew NDB]

Also what was with that weird rumor of Daniel's wife dying off-screen before the movie? That never happened, she simply wasn't mentioned at all. Neither was his daughter Sam so it doesn't matter.

Who knows what was cut out of the movie. We know this was:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cobrakai/comments/1l0ay0c/pictures_from_a_deleted_scene_in_karate_kid/

Actual flashbacks of Young(er) Miyagi and Young(er) Jackie Chan.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, hopefully we see all these cut scenes on youtube eventually. You could tell the pacing was off the whole movie. I doubt any other Cobra Kai cameos/references happened besides Johnny at the end, they wanted it to stand on its own.

Why do I get the feeling netflix is going to make some sort of anime spinoff series of Karate Kid/Cobra Kai next? The whole show was basically written like an anime in live-action.

[IMJ]

I love it when these I.P.s get these kinds of releases. The only other one that comes to mind which was that encompassing was Back to the Future.

Honestly, Beetlejuice is now begging for that kind of release - once the 3rd movie comes out a trilogy in 4k that includes the animated series? I'd buy it...

[sdp]

What is that like? Could it possibly be considered canon?

No way, unless you want to have magic and supernatural stuff be canon to the movies. I mean I guess you could fit it in if you really wanted to as something that happened since no other characters appear in it from the movies, you have Daniel, a new girl and Miyagi go on a worldwide adventure to recover the magic shrine talisman thing that has powers. It's an average 80s cartoon with flaws of 80s cartoons, nothing terrible but nothing great about it. I first saw it like ten years ago on Netflix I think.

Apparently the shrine appears on the background in Cobra Kai, that's a really cool easter egg, not that it means its canon.
Who knows what was cut out of the movie. We know this was:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cobrakai/comments/1l0ay0c/pictures_from_a_deleted_scene_in_karate_kid/

Actual flashbacks of Young(er) Miyagi and Young(er) Jackie Chan.
This is great, I love it. We have the technology, Miyagi should be a bigger part of Karate Kid movies.