Complete Series DVD coming in December

[Chaotix12345]

https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Complete/dp/B0BFJDSZL1/ref=mp_s_a_1_25?crid=1YVGST030BGQ4

Coming on December 6th, the complete 2012 show is getting a DVD set. Judging by the lack of Blu-ray, low price and chunky case, I'm guessing this is a repack of the existing individual Volume discs. Great price, though. Haven't picked up many of the previous releases, so this is definitely going on my radar.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah seems like just a repackage of everything. If the show ever gets a blu-ray set I'd buy it. It looks good in HD.

[TigerClaw]

https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Complete/dp/B0BFJDSZL1/ref=mp_s_a_1_25?crid=1YVGST030BGQ4

Coming on December 6th, the complete 2012 show is getting a DVD set. Judging by the lack of Blu-ray, low price and chunky case, I'm guessing this is a repack of the existing individual Volume discs. Great price, though. Haven't picked up many of the previous releases, so this is definitely going on my radar.
Cool, Wish it was in blu-ray, I have the complete set of the 87 series, I recently setup my own plex server and ripped all the discs of the 87 series, It would be nice if I had this set so that I can put on my server too.

[IMJ]

Cool, Wish it was in blu-ray, I have the complete set of the 87 series, I recently setup my own plex server and ripped all the discs of the 87 series, It would be nice if I had this set so that I can put on my server too.

I have something similar set up via WD MyCloud media servers. Until this comes out on Blu-Ray, I'm set with that.

[Autbot_Benz]

Like many have said. If this was Blu Ray id be all over this. There is no reason this couldn't get a blu ray release:x

[oldmanwinters]

I'm always glad to see shows get "complete series" physical releases, even if it's less than ideal.

[TigerClaw]

I have the DVD of Wanted Bebop and Rocksteady that has two episodes on it, When I ripped that for my plex server, I had to name the files in order for Plex to display the proper information, and it shows them as Season 5 episodes.

[IMJ]

Like many have said. If this was Blu Ray id be all over this. There is no reason this couldn't get a blu ray release:x

Seems like a huge missed opportunity too - we are at the tenth anniversary of this show's first season. Sort of ridiculous of the I.P. holders not to pimp a Blu-Ray release through a celebration of "Ten Years of Nicktoon TMNT!", doesn't it?

I have the DVD of Wanted Bebop and Rocksteady that has two episodes on it, When I ripped that for my plex server, I had to name the files in order for Plex to display the proper information, and it shows them as Season 5 episodes.

I'm a big fan of AudioShell for editing metadata. Once installed it's a simple right click action.

[Andrew NDB]

In glorious 480p! They might as well do a VHS release. I get that old people still cling to their DVD players and that's a thing... but this isn't for old people.

[TigerClaw]

Seems like a huge missed opportunity too - we are at the tenth anniversary of this show's first season. Sort of ridiculous of the I.P. holders not to pimp a Blu-Ray release through a celebration of "Ten Years of Nicktoon TMNT!", doesn't it?



I'm a big fan of AudioShell for editing metadata. Once installed it's a simple right click action.
But I love how Plex fills in all the information for you, As long as you name the files properly.

[Powder]

I'll prolly snag it. I just replaced all my single OT DVD's with the $25 complete set in one case. So nice to reduce all that bulk. I don't really care about the quality all that much, I just want to own it all in some form.

[Leo656]

I didn't really like the show but I did buy a few of those 3 or 4-episode discs because I'm that kind of sucker, and if I have some spare cash I might end up picking this one up for the sake of completion. Figure I own Next Mutation, f*ck it.

[Aaronardo]

Holy sh*t, finally. I've had the Season 1 volumes chilling on my shelf on their own for years now.

[TigerClaw]

Now if they only had a box set of the 2003 series, So far you can get all of the Fast Forward which is 26 episodes on two DVD sets, Unfortunately, You can only get them as used.

[IndigoErth]

Wow, I really didn't think it was ever actually going to get a complete set, thought the days of that might be past with streaming taking over. Might have to pick that up eventually.
Now would be a prime time for them to also do one for 2003 since I finally just gave up and started buying old individual DVDs on eBay.

[Leo656]

You put odd things in Spoilers that generally don't require Spoilers. :lol:

I once banged a chick so hard her freckles fell off. :tgrin:

Hahaaaaaaaaaa, Got 'Em. :trazz:

[Autbot_Benz]

Wow, I really didn't think it was ever actually going to get a complete set, thought the days of that might be past with streaming taking over. Might have to pick that up eventually.
Now would be a prime time for them to also do one for 2003 since I finally just gave up and started buying old individual DVDs on eBay.

Doubt it will happen as Viacom/Nick treats the 2003 series as the bastard stepchild of the franchise. Why I have no idea the first 4 seasons were excellent.

[IndigoErth]

You put odd things in Spoilers that generally don't require Spoilers. :lol:
Technically it's an off topic comment since it wasn't about this show, but spoilered it in an ineffective attempt to not be the person who drives it off topic.

Doubt it will happen as Viacom/Nick treats the 2003 series as the bastard stepchild of the franchise. Why I have no idea the first 4 seasons were excellent.
Yeah, and being new to even bothering to look for copies it's a little confusing that, far as I can gather, BttS came out elsewhere but not here? An American show doesn't put them all on DVD here? For that alone they owe us a compete set, dammit.

I need my show sets lined up... and most are missing so far. Hell I'll even be nice and still wish the lovers of Rise can get all of that one, too, and even the movie, but that's another that prob won't happen. Esp if they're going back to try to squeeze some cash out of 2012.

[Leo656]

Doubt it will happen as Viacom/Nick treats the 2003 series as the bastard stepchild of the franchise. Why I have no idea the first 4 seasons were excellent.

That'd be why. It outshines their own, far lesser material.

Kinda like how even after McMahon bought WCW outright, and could have easily chose to shine it up and make money off it, he only ever did so begrudgingly and the official WWE narrative was, and remains to this day, "WCW always sucked, tho." Like, it makes no tangible sense for them to continue to push that narrative considering they own the property and it only even exists in name form for them to exploit for profit... but they only ever celebrate it in a very backhanded manner, even still.

Business is petty, the entertainment business is worse. Nick doesn't want to promote 4Kids because it would make them look slightly bad since they've never done anything close to as good. They don't want to compete with themselves. It's nonsense, but that's how these things work.

Technically it's an off topic comment since it wasn't about this show, but spoilered it in an ineffective attempt to not be the person who drives it off topic.


You think the five people who still come around here give a sh*t? :lol:

If you're selling cookies, Girl Scout, I'll take two boxes of Thin Mints. :trazz:

[IndigoErth]

You think the five people who still come around here give a sh*t? :lol:

If you're selling cookies, Girl Scout, I'll take two boxes of Thin Mints. :trazz:
Well someone's gotta try to patch up what's left of any respectability in this place. :P

[Leo656]

What's the ETA on them cookies?

[IndigoErth]

Hm... found chocolate chips with edible glitter, might throw them into some peanut butter cookies one of these days. I suppose I could try to jam a few cookies into an old plastic water bottle, seal it up and throw it into the river between our states. It'll get there when it reaches your banks and you fish it out. Though it might end up in the bay... maybe better to throw a net across the bay.

[Leo656]

Hm... found chocolate chips with edible glitter, might throw them into some peanut butter cookies one of these days. I suppose I could try to jam a few cookies into an old plastic water bottle, seal it up and throw it into the river between our states. It'll get there when it reaches your banks and you fish it out. Though it might end up in the bay... maybe better to throw a net across the bay.

I demand that you at least wear the outfit.

[IndigoErth]

Sorry, I gave up scouts pretty early, whatever uniform might be in the attic stopped fitting like 35 years ago.

[Leo656]

I think you should let the audience make that decision. :tgrin:

Failing that, I have some links to some fabulous garment-makers who specialize in tailoring for folks on a budget. If I'm fishing soggy stale glitter cookies out of the Delaware the least you could do is allow me this ONE minor indulgence.

Otherwise, enjoy your one-star Yelp! review.

[Coola Yagami]

Hmm I might consider it. There are still entire episodes and parts of seasons I haven't seen. Especially cause those back to back horror movie homage episodes or a full season in space were kinda tiring and I tuned out. And I never saw the final episodes.

[Leo656]

Hmm I might consider it.

For a second I thought you meant you were gonna consider wearing a Girl Scout uniform and throwing cookies at me. :lol: Since that's where things had gone in here since yesterday.

[IndigoErth]

Thought he was gonna do it, too....


I can turn a TMNT shirt inside out so it's just green. Take it or leave it.

[Leo656]

At this point we can skip the cookies, I'll just buy the outfit and send it overnight delivery, and you can come over with it on and smack me around a while. :lol::lol::lol:

It's okay, I deserve it. I'm a much worse person than you know! :tgrin:

Let this be a warning what happens when people try and keep threads on topic. :trazz::trazz::trazz::lol::lol::lol:

[IndigoErth]

Pretty sure those dogs would beg (literally) to differ on that "much worse person" comment. No worse person even has pets, let alone good dogs.

I'll stay over here, the gas still costs too much. But feel free to buy a foam sword from Dollar Tree and smack yourself with it once or twice until Dog-Hulk immediately takes it from you.

[Leo656]

:lol: I love lobbing you these underhand pitches just to see what you do with 'em. So far you never let me down. :tgrin:

[Storm Eagle]

I'm inclined to get this since it would free up some space on the shelf, but it'd probably have discs stacked on each other like the new set for the 80's cartoon.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah if these were blu-ray sets I'd pre-order in a heartbeat but these are likely just re-releases of the same kids DVDs they released separately while the show was airing. So nothing special just repackaged.

I virtually never buy shows or movies but I'd make an exception in TMNT's case. I honestly can't remember the last time I bought a DVD. Maybe...2010 or so?

[IndigoErth]

None of the series have gotten a Blu-ray set, have they? Can't say I expected any different. How many "kids" shows end up on Blu-ray anyhow.

Though unless your tv is so huge that it actually needs Blu-ray resolution, I don't really see an issue with DVD. Heck, 2003 is stuck as the square box... but I'd likewise rather have it in some viewable form than not at all.

[TigerClaw]

None of the series have gotten a Blu-ray set, have they? Can't say I expected any different. How many "kids" shows end up on Blu-ray anyhow.

Though unless your tv is so huge that it actually needs Blu-ray resolution, I don't really see an issue with DVD. Heck, 2003 is stuck as the square box... but I'd likewise rather have it in some viewable form than not at all.
Nope, Nickelodeon has never put out Blu-ray releases, Because its cheaper to make on DVD I guess.

At least all the shows are in HD on streaming, But still sucks that you can't get them in HD in physical format.

[Turo602]

Pretty sure Avatar and Korra are on Blu-ray.

[Leo656]

Those were way more popular than Nick TMNT, though. And I think the Blu-rays came out way after the DVDs, which would indicate that the DVD sales led them to publish Blu-rays later on, which are probably more expensive to produce. At least I *think* that's the order of events, someone can correct me.

If Nick thought that the sales of TMNT Blu-rays would offset the manufacturing costs, they'd do Blu-rays and not DVDs. They don't think Blu-rays would sell enough, because as I keep trying to explain, TMNT isn't actually as popular as some people here swear it is.

I guess there's always a chance that if these DVD sets sell a lot, a Blu-ray release would be forthcoming, but considering it took them half a decade to even do a DVD set I wouldn't hold my breath. They obviously don't think it's a draw.

[Turo602]

If Nick thought that the sales of TMNT Blu-rays would offset the manufacturing costs, they'd do Blu-rays and not DVDs. They don't think Blu-rays would sell enough, because as I keep trying to explain, TMNT isn't actually as popular as some people here swear it is.

Considering the massive plans they have for TMNT next year, that's just not true. I don't understand why some TMNT fans keep pushing this narrative that TMNT isn't popular despite not only being one of the highest grossing media franchises but the simple fact that it's never been away long before some reboot is announced. It's a highly active franchise that both adults and children can recognize the same way icons like Batman and Superman are easily identifiable. Nickelodeon's mismanagement of the brand and the general stigma companies have against physical media releases as well as their mishandling of it doesn't really negate that either.

[Leo656]

It has a very high Lifetime Batting Average, yes. Lifetime, as in from the FW cartoon's debut until now. MOST of that money and acclaim came between the years 1988 and 1992, and most of the revenue SINCE then has come from recycling the exact same material that was popular Then. Nothing "new" of TMNT past the mid-90s has truly taken off. Re-released FW material and stuff based on FW sells. The same video games that were popular in the 90s sells, and a game specifically built to remind you of those games sells. Newer games don't sell, they don't even make waves. The new cartoons haven't gotten much attention even at their peak. The Bay movies are only notorious for how awful they were.

I get what you're trying to say but there is very strong evidence that the only success the TMNT brand has enjoyed since the mid-90s is based on people's nostalgia for Classic Coke TMNT, not anything to come along since then.

Put simply, people don't care about "TMNT" in the grand sense, they care about "The TMNT they liked when they were kids". THAT memory and iteration of TMNT is, was, and remains popular. "TMNT" as a whole, is NOT popular. If it was, people would react to and remember more than just The One Version. But that simply isn't the case and we've seen that for 25 years.

Look at those "massive plans" for what's in the pipeline. More FW rehash.

But regardless, and to the topic, the decision to release DVDs vs. Blu-rays is dollars and cents. They have "people" to study and project what's going to be most effective on a dollars spent vs. dollars earned ratio. If they thought enough people would buy a TMNT Blu-ray set for the Nick show, then they'd do one. The fact that they haven't means they simply don't have confidence in the product. They would know more about it than you or I, we're over here speculating but they actually have the hard data.

It's like when the kid who played Sponge on Salute Your Shorts was trying to get that show on DVD, and Nick kept saying no. He went to them with online polls and message board posts and said "Look! People want this!" And Nick Corporate said, "Yeah, that means nothing, we have our own much more extensive and expensive research that tells us we'd lose money on making the set, so we're not going to." And that was the end of that.

They also cancelled the release of the final Season of Pete & Pete AFTER they'd already manufactured it, because they found out that even just the cost of shipping them to stores would cost more than they'd ever make back through sales.

"But People Want" isn't enough. It's a business.

[Antoniocafe]

This has to be a repackage. They don't still release shows on DVD do they? There's basically no DVD section at stores any more.

[IndigoErth]

Huh. My Walmart at least still sells a reasonable amount of DVDs. (Thankfully... as I wanted that Batman vs TMNT movie the day it came out.)

[Antoniocafe]

At Walmart I do see quite a bit of DVDs in the clearance bins. But the regular DVD section is almost nothing at all anymore.

[IndigoErth]

Weird, maybe they just don't sell well enough in your area to be worth stocking.

[Leo656]

Yeah it varies by region, I have multiple Targets and Wal-Marts near me and the selection is all over the place.

[Allio]

Also depends on the program. I know Super Sentai is on dvd and that’s because Toei hasn’t done any remasters on any seasons prior to 2004. Only thing you can do with some shows would be like SDonBD like Cyborg 009 2001 version

[Turo602]

It has a very high Lifetime Batting Average, yes. Lifetime, as in from the FW cartoon's debut until now. MOST of that money and acclaim came between the years 1988 and 1992, and most of the revenue SINCE then has come from recycling the exact same material that was popular Then. Nothing "new" of TMNT past the mid-90s has truly taken off. Re-released FW material and stuff based on FW sells. The same video games that were popular in the 90s sells, and a game specifically built to remind you of those games sells. Newer games don't sell, they don't even make waves. The new cartoons haven't gotten much attention even at their peak. The Bay movies are only notorious for how awful they were.

I get what you're trying to say but there is very strong evidence that the only success the TMNT brand has enjoyed since the mid-90s is based on people's nostalgia for Classic Coke TMNT, not anything to come along since then.

Put simply, people don't care about "TMNT" in the grand sense, they care about "The TMNT they liked when they were kids". THAT memory and iteration of TMNT is, was, and remains popular. "TMNT" as a whole, is NOT popular. If it was, people would react to and remember more than just The One Version. But that simply isn't the case and we've seen that for 25 years.

Look at those "massive plans" for what's in the pipeline. More FW rehash.

But regardless, and to the topic, the decision to release DVDs vs. Blu-rays is dollars and cents. They have "people" to study and project what's going to be most effective on a dollars spent vs. dollars earned ratio. If they thought enough people would buy a TMNT Blu-ray set for the Nick show, then they'd do one. The fact that they haven't means they simply don't have confidence in the product. They would know more about it than you or I, we're over here speculating but they actually have the hard data.

It's like when the kid who played Sponge on Salute Your Shorts was trying to get that show on DVD, and Nick kept saying no. He went to them with online polls and message board posts and said "Look! People want this!" And Nick Corporate said, "Yeah, that means nothing, we have our own much more extensive and expensive research that tells us we'd lose money on making the set, so we're not going to." And that was the end of that.

They also cancelled the release of the final Season of Pete & Pete AFTER they'd already manufactured it, because they found out that even just the cost of shipping them to stores would cost more than they'd ever make back through sales.

"But People Want" isn't enough. It's a business.

Considering the FW cartoon was a phenomenon, it's only natural that its popularity would wane. But the brand's staying power is undeniable. Sure, the FW series has been the most dominant source of success for the franchise, but it's still TMNT all the same. You can't blame the casual audience for responding to what they like when they haven't been given anything worth a damn to care about in the last 25 years.

The 2007 film failed to capitalize on whatever success the franchise was having during its 2003 run by making an incredibly mediocre film with very little brand recognition. The BayTurtles films were also controversial from the start and seen as a corporate reinvention of the Ninja Turtles. That doesn't really prove the franchise isn't popular, it just proves people don't respond well to garbage.

Even the video games were a much harder sell than they were in the 90s because of the way the gaming industry had evolved. Not everything survived the transition to 3D gaming and beat 'em ups were no exception. Not to mention, licensed games were typically lower budget and had strict deadlines to meet, which was far more evident and detrimental to a 3D game than sprite based side-scrollers that looked like every other game on the market. Standards were very different.

As for the cartoons, most people tend to age out them, so they've each had to find their own audience and yet 2 of the 3 not only had successful toylines, but also had impressive 100+ episode runs, which is no easy feat to pull off back to back despite not being popular anymore. The 2012 show also had lots of crossover appeal with older fans because it retained elements that made it familiar to both FW and 2k3 fans, with the former likely being parents who would have used the show to bond with their kids out of nostalgia. But the show still stood on its own and successfully introduced TMNT to a new generation of fans.

I don't think there's enough data out there to definitively state that the majority of its media gross comes strictly from 1988-1992 considering how strong merchandising has been for the past 22 years. Especially now with its extensive list of brand deals that has given us so many premium figure lines and a bunch of video game crossovers which to my knowledge, we don't have any numbers on. Then there's the fact that it still has an on-going comic book series with The Last Ronin even gaining a lot of casual interest.

I also don't buy into whatever nonsense data they may or may not have considering how often companies half ass physical media releases they don't advertise and then never complete after they've botched the whole thing. Most people don't want to bother with endless volumes they have to hunt down, they want an easy purchase of one box with everything in it. Whatever data they have is either insufficient BS that proves they're standing in their own way or says a lot more about the state of physical media sales in general than it does TMNT itself. Warner Bros. certainly has no problem releasing all their sh*t on blu-ray and there's absolutely no way Legion of Superheroes and The Batman were ever more popular than Ninja Turtles.

There's a reason they keep banking on the FW series to get people excited and move TMNT merch. It's the same reason Sega kept relying on Classic Sonic. They tried something stupid with BayTurtles and Rise and it bit them in the ass and so now they're going back to what works for some cheap pops until they can get their next sh*tty reboot off the ground. Like I said before, you can't judge the popularity of the franchise by its mismanagement. TMNT didn't fail Nickelodeon, Nickelodeon failed TMNT.

[Storm Eagle]

Some of you might have already seen me talk about getting the set.

https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1950771&postcount=3723

Now all of the vendor sites I know of say it's either sold out, or on back order. Best Buy's entry says it's no longer available in new condition, and that's where I ordered it from.

[PizzaPower]

I'm always glad to see shows get "complete series" physical releases, even if it's less than ideal.
same, we need the 2k3 series hopefully one day.

[Ninjinister]

Like many have said. If this was Blu Ray id be all over this. There is no reason this couldn't get a blu ray release:x

It's so weird, there are still zero TMNT TV shows available on Blu-Ray.

[Autbot_Benz]

It's so weird, there are still zero TMNT TV shows available on Blu-Ray.

agreed it makes no sense. 2003 and 2012 should have been on blu ray like yesterday. But Nick/viacom don't get it

[IMJ]

It's so weird, there are still zero TMNT TV shows available on Blu-Ray.

Truth is at this point they are so behind on it that if they ever get around to rescanning the shows from the cells or master, I hope they just do it in 4k. I'm not sure how much more it can do for the format, but the original Ghost In The Shell animated flick looks amazing in 4k.

[TigerClaw]

It's so weird, there are still zero TMNT TV shows available on Blu-Ray.
There's this new trend of releasing a complete series of an animated show on Blu-ray, But they are still in 480i quality, The reason for this is because Blu-rays stores a lot more data then DVDs, So they can have a bunch of episodes on a single Blu-ray Discs, and have less discs to worry about, So you could have a complete series that may be on 2 or 4 Blu-rays depending on how many episodes there are.

For example, Sonic X has a complete series that has all 78 episodes on two blu-rays discs.

[Storm Eagle]

There's this new trend of releasing a complete series of an animated show on Blu-ray, But they are still in 480i quality, The reason for this is because Blu-rays stores a lot more data then DVDs, So they can have a bunch of episodes on a single Blu-ray Discs, and have less discs to worry about, So you could have a complete series that may be on 2 or 4 Blu-rays depending on how many episodes there are.

For example, Sonic X has a complete series that has all 78 episodes on two blu-rays discs.

Not many companies in the US seem to do that though. The only one I know that does is Discotek, and that's who put out that Sonic X set. If something isn't suitable for Blu-ray though, then I don't mind it being released on DVD.

[Andrew NDB]

agreed it makes no sense. 2003 and 2012 should have been on blu ray like yesterday. But Nick/viacom don't get it

I think the general thinking is that since DVD/blu-ray sales are so low, barely a thing at all so that if they HAVE to throw something out in the market, if they do DVD (480p) then it's picture quality doesn't compete with what's broadcast on the TV. Plus they'd much rather you buy episodes from Paramount+ or wherever the show exists in these streamers.

There is 0 reason to buy a thing that is going to actually look worse than what you saw on the TV.

[Newton Gimmick]

Unfortunately this show isn't even streaming everywhere. Paramount+ only has a few seasons.

[CyberCubed]

I'm rewatching it for free on the illegal streaming websites. They have them in HD on [REDACTED]

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Unfortunately this show isn't even streaming everywhere. Paramount+ only has a few seasons.

It's also on Netflix.

[CyberCubed]

Man in Season 4's "War of Dimension X", I completely forgot Kraang sub-prime was part of the Utrom council as, "Knight" like Bishop and the Queen, and that's why he could speak normally unlike all the other Kraang speech patterns. Kraang Prime mutated itself and was this shows version of Krang, and then brainwashed/enslaved most of the Utroms to become Kraang. But Kraang Sub-prime was part of the Utrom council as "Knight" and betrayed them to work for Kraang Prime.

The whole Utrom/Kraang backstory makes complete sense in this episode. And then somehow Fred Wolf Krang was also part of these Utroms too and was always called Krang as well...which is odd, but ok. Bishop being an Utrom here works really well for this show.

It's a bit different than what IDW did, where Krang is just an Utrom and wanted to lead them down a warpath after his father Quanin died. Also forgot in this series Fugitoid is just a normal human-type alien (like in Mirage and 2k3 where the Federation are just humans in space for some reason), whereas in IDW Honeycutt was a Neutrino.

[TigerClaw]

Last week I managed to get the Complete Series at Walmart, and today I finally finished ripping all the DVDs and putting every episode and extras on my plex server.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqzGm4BWwAwlJ1E?format=jpg&name=small

[CyberCubed]

Is the Ice cream cat music video on this?

[Jester]

yes. it is just like the Fred Wolf complete series in that its just all 20 individual DVD releases boxed up together.

[TigerClaw]

Is the Ice cream cat music video on this?
Yeah, Its there, Its on the DVD labeled Wanted Bebop and Rocksteady.

[FlawedCoil82]

Yeah, Its there, Its on the DVD labeled Wanted Bebop and Rocksteady.

Do the episodes from “Mutagen Mayhem” still look more pixelated like they did on the initial disc? I just remember the episodes on that disc looked like the were in lower quality than any other disc.

[CyberCubed]

Now we need a blu-ray set for this series and we'll be good.