So is you-know-who back in the running?

[Coola Yagami]

So who's watching or waiting to watch the Orange Man's mystery announcement?

[ChosenOne]

The Man has spoken! 2024, here we come!

[Andrew NDB]

I don't even see him winning, let alone that being an overall constructive presidency. A lot of conservatives will just stay home and vote for nobody than more Trump.

[Roseangelo]

I'm not a Trump hater, but I never voted for the guy. And still won't. Also won't vote for Biden or any other Democrat. Sooo... yeah.

[Autbot_Benz]

Trump isn't gonna be president again. Most Republicans are sick of his MAGA BS.

But It will be a good laugh to see him fail again.

https://i.imgur.com/khUWMtU.gif

[Coola Yagami]

Won't vote for neither Trump or Biden.

Only thing I agree with him is that we can't take 4 more years of Biden.

[neatoman]

I think the real question is if the Republicans ever to be represented by him again.

[1987]

Spoiler Alert:

Election night 2024: Trump is winning bigly, then suddenly the count stops, still counting ballots for another week. Then… Biden easily wins re-election.

Seriously, does Trump even have a chance with all the election fraud that’s been happening? We all saw what just happened in Arizona, Katie Hobbs didn’t even bother to campaign or debate, vote counts stalled for a week, then she wins and certifies her own election. Conflict of interest much? The fix is in. They got away with it in 2020, they got away with in in 2022. 2024 will be the same, unless Florida’s election laws are made national.

[Coola Yagami]

Will they even work together? Several Trump supporters were seen stomping all over DeSantis signs. However, the Democrats, whether they're woke or not, are all pretty much united against both Trump and DeSantis.

[ChosenOne]

Trump-DeSantis would be a dream ticket. Biden's fraudulent election got us to where we are today, not just America but the whole world. He must be removed, for all our sakes.

[Coola Yagami]

Not so, because they want Trump OR DeSantis, not both of them side by side. This might get ugly for the Republicans.

[Andrew NDB]

The cons to DeSantis as VP would be that it would be an ineffectual role. Also that it would deprive him from Florida and who knows how strong of a replacement they would end up with. The pros to DeSantis as VP would be more votes from people who really love DeSantis yet dislike Trump, also that it would groom him for a proper presidential run in 2028.

Just euuuughhh, though. I already see it happening on social media. Friends now piping up with "if you believe in Trump, unfriend me now!" and so on. It's already starting again. More years of this stuff to be looked forward to now.

[Coola Yagami]

The cons to DeSantis as VP would be that it would be an ineffectual role. Also that it would deprive him from Florida and who knows how strong of a replacement they would end up with. The pros to DeSantis as VP would be more votes from people who really love DeSantis yet dislike Trump, also that it would groom him for a proper presidential run in 2028.

Do you think that would work? Grooming is usually more of a leftist thing.

[Coola Yagami]

Just euuuughhh, though. I already see it happening on social media. Friends now piping up with "if you believe in Trump, unfriendly me now!" and so on. It's already starting. More years of this stuff to be looked forward to now.

I guess, but to be honest, it never stopped. I mean, 2 years later and grandpa still isn't welcome at Thanskgiving or Christmas dinner for who he voted for in 2016. They want to do a Covid Amnesty but no one's talking about a 206 Election Amnesty.

[1987]

Thought I heard some rumor that Trump was gonna pick a woman as his running mate VP, that it was gonna be Kari Lake but the loss in Arizona probably didn’t help that. Also heard talks about MTG as running mate but the left would just lose it.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Oh, boy…

Red dots will appear on Trump’s back again for sure.

[Leo656]

This idiot has officially lost his mind. Did he forget this was all a scam about a book deal that got way the f*ck out of hand? The hell does he think he's doing?

It's pretty well-known that Biden isn't even gonna run again after his four years are up, so what's gonna happen is, the fractured Republican base is gonna stick us with President F*cking Harris because ain't no chance Trump wins and all the infighting among other candidates is going to leave the entire Republican party looking weak.

So we're gonna be stuck with Heels-Up Harris as President because this idiot wants to split the Republican vote. :roll: Thanks a lot, Donnie, you complete f*cking toolbox. He's pretty much guaranteed and gift-wrapped a Democrat victory. There are a ton of Republicans who want no part in any more "civil war" nonsense and are sick of all the impotent screeching about "stolen elections". What we saw in the midterms was a move away from extremism on both sides of the aisle; people overwhelmingly rejected most of the "extreme" candidates in favor of more moderate ones (I am aware there are exceptions to this, don't @ me). People are generally sick and tired of "politics as a blood sport" because they see how it hasn't gotten anyone anywhere. It's all just a bunch of noise.

I knew the guy was lost in his own little world but I had no idea he was this out of touch. This is the worst long-term tantrum/meltdown in the history of the world. Someone needs to build this guy a giant f*cking playpen so he can go f*ck around over there and let actual grown-ups do the actual grown-up stuff.

[Coola Yagami]

Oh, boy…

Red dots will appear on Trump’s back again for sure.

lmao you're acting as if those red dots ever really left. Dude's been considered enemy number one since he announced his first run for presidency in 2016.

[Andrew NDB]

It's pretty well-known that Biden isn't even gonna run again after his four years are up,

I think that while he was more than likely going to bow out not-so-gracefully after this term, there will be a big push to put Biden back in there now. After all, for better or worse he was Kryptonite to Trump in 2020.

Or something.

so what's gonna happen is, the fractured Republican base is gonna stick us with President F*cking Harris because ain't no chance Trump wins and all the infighting among other candidates is going to leave the entire Republican party looking weak.

Eh. Basically. Though I admit, I'm not sure how this works. If Biden bows out, like, at the 2024 election, that doesn't automatically mean Harris would be the defacto democrat nominee, right? And she's horribly unpopular even with her own party and even a lot of the crazier people on the left. The only path to a Harris presidency I see is if Biden keels over sometime before then.

I knew the guy was lost in his own little world but I had no idea he was this out of touch. This is the worst long-term tantrum/meltdown in the history of the world. Someone needs to build this guy a giant f*cking playpen so he can go f*ck around over there and let actual grown-ups do the actual grown-up stuff.

The best thing he could have done was sit back and support, from a comfortable distance, whoever the republican candidate for 2024 would end up being. That way you get the Trump voters and you don't (hopefully) get all the hysteria with it.

Though I don't put a huge amount of confidence that -- no matter who the republican pick would be, if it wasn't Trump -- would just end up, bolstered by the media, on some circus about "so-and-so is even WORSE than Trump! Democracy is at an end if he wins!" And so on. But at least there'd be a chance, you know?

[Coola Yagami]

I think that while he was more than likely going to bow out not-so-gracefully after this term, there will be a big push to put Biden back in there now. After all, for better or worse he was Kryptonite to Trump in 2020.

Or something.



Eh. Basically. Though I admit, I'm not sure how this works. If Biden bows out, like, at the 2024 election, that doesn't automatically mean Harris is the defacto democrat pick. And she's horribly unpopular even with her own party and even a lot of the crazier people on the left.



The best thing he could have done was sit back and support, from a comfortable distance, whoever the republican candidate for 2024 would end up being. That way you get the Trump voters and you don't (hopefully) get all the hysteria with it.

Though I don't put a huge amount of confidence that -- no matter who the republican pick would be, if it wasn't Trump -- would just end up, bolstered by the media, on some circus about "so-and-so is even WORSE than Trump! Democracy is at an end if he wins!" And so on. But at least there'd be a chance, you know?

eh, they were pretty much already getting ready to pull the whole 'EVEN WORSE THAT TRUMP!!!111' thing on DeSantis as is. Until a few months ago, we were all assuming Trump wouldn't run again and DeSantis was sure to the Republican candidate so there were already minor hit-pieces here and there going with the 'he was gonna exactly like or even worse than Trump' narrative,so yeah.

Trump gave the left the perfect scapegoat for everything. Bush Jr was incompetent but nobody even remembers him anymore. Now it's all Trump, Trump, Trump, and even if he loses this term or even wins and is finally over and done with, they'll still compare whoever the next Republican candidate in 2028 to him.

The left is obsessed with Hitler, and Trump has become their modern day equivalent.

[Leo656]

Bush Jr was incompetent

More like, "In over his head but he knew that", which created its own set of problems. He was in some respects the "Anti-Trump"; Trump is known for disregarding any and all advice anyone ever gave him, whereas W. Bush was notorious for asking everyone around him for advice and deferring far too often to far too many people, many of whom had conflicting/opposing viewpoints. He wanted the job for family/personal reasons but he knew he wasn't really cut out for it. He ended up being a weak leader because he had no confidence in himself and let other people direct him.

Whether that makes him Better or Worse than Trump probably comes down to personal preference. Me, I did fine under W.; I had few complaints during those years. I think if it's a case of two people who aren't suited for a job, any job at all, and they both get it, the one who takes "too much" direction is probably better in the long run than the one who never listens to anyone and insists he's right all the time. There's more long-term upside in the Former than the Latter.

[Andrew NDB]

The left is obsessed with Hitler, and Trump has become their modern day equivalent.

It's really interesting. They really want to make Trump out to be the Hitler figure (he isn't, in any way, beyond pockets of the rubes he "inspires") while everything they're doing in politics, little by little, is the actual textbook fascism and even racism. They are the ones obsessed with control. Control over you, your kids, what you say (controlling and manipulating the language is literally their favorite thing), what is in your entertainment, what is in the school, who needs to be ruined and cancelled, all of these things. The very nature of pushing ESG into 401Ks now (I open my 401K now and there it is, "We dedicate ourselves to ESG values!") and all sorts of investments.

[Leo656]

Almost every one of those things are things the Republicans ALSO do and are presently doing.

"It's WORSE on THAT side, though!" It actually really isn't. It's a matter of angle and degree, at best.

Let's be real; when one side is openly calling for an official National Religion you are officially only a few steps away from having an Actual Cult be put in charge of things. That is WAY worse than the stupid "Diversity Checklist" for movies and TV shows, and all that other pissy crap. I hate that sh*t too but if you think that is WORSE than letting cult fanatics be put officially in charge of government, that is really bad forward thinking.

I mean these people are adults, they have imaginary friends, AND take advice from them. Those People belong in padded cells, not government office.

[Andrew NDB]

Almost every one of those things are things the Republicans ALSO do and are presently doing.

"It's WORSE on THAT side, though!" It actually really isn't. It's a matter of angle and degree, at best.

Degrees, for sure.

Let's be real; when one side is openly calling for an official National Religion

Who is calling for that, and where? AOC calls for crazy stuff daily, as I'm sure you'd agree. Also, this Marjory Taylor Greene people on the left keep mentioning while I still have no idea who that is and isn't being talked about by remotely anybody I know on the right.

That is WAY worse than the stupid "Diversity Checklist" for movies and TV shows, and all that other pissy crap.

No, I don't agree. Someone, somewhere "calling" for a thing that won't happen isn't the same as actual things happening right now right in front of our eyes.

The only bad thing I think you can point to going on from the right is the striking down of Roe V Wade. And you know I'm all for abortion. But it was a shoddy piece of legalese and it was shot down as a result because it didn't hold constitutional water. Do I wish it was still there and do I agree it was a HORRIBLE thing for republicans to focus on and do, particularly now? Absolutely! I can almost guarantee you that's the one big thing that held back the "red wave" this cycle. Single women are the new big voting block that's emerged, apparently, and boy were they fired up.

[Coola Yagami]

The only bad thing I think you can point to going on from the right is the striking down of Roe V Wade. And you know I'm all for abortion. But it was a shoddy piece of legalese and it was shot down as a result because it didn't hold constitutional water. Do I wish it was still there and do I agree it was a HORRIBLE thing for republicans to focus on and do, particularly now? Absolutely! I can almost guarantee you that's the one big thing that held back the "red wave" this cycle. Single women are the new big voting block that's emerged, apparently, and boy were they fired up.

Yeah, it was the absolute worst possible timing. Everyone was getting sick off all the crazy woke trans stuff after this year's pride went off the rails and then they leak the possible overturning of RvW just as many people were willing to side with them to get this woke madness contained.

And to make it worse.... even after hearing the horrible backlash of the leak... the dumb****s go on AND ****ING DO IT ANYWAY.

That pretty ruined the image of Republicans (even worse than usual) permanently.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, it was the absolute worst possible timing. Everyone was getting sick off all the crazy woke trans stuff after this year's pride went off the rails and then they leak the possible overturning of RvW.

And to make it worse.... even after hearing the horrible backlash of the leak... the dumb****s go on AND ****ING DO IT ANYWAY.

That pretty ruined the image of Republicans (even worse than usual) permanently.

True. Even I didn't think that would get overturned, but I didn't really do enough homework into the letter of the law... but wow, yes, I did do a deep dive and it was pretty yikes. And hollow. STILL! Horrible timing. And they should have just let it alone, regardless. And if Leo wants to beat the "religion is evil" drum, yes, this was probably a thing solely motivated by religion. This one time. But if the actual legalese had been airtight, we wouldn't be in this predicament.

Though "evil"? If you're religious -- and as you know, I am not -- you believe killing unborn lives is wrong. We can argue this or that, when life begins, but they're not coming from any place resembling an evil one. They're coming from a sound and good one. Now, do I think they should f*** off and let it be, anyway? YES! But I don't believe for one moment the effort to try and stop abortions is an evil thing.

[Coola Yagami]

True. Even I didn't think that would get overturned, but I didn't really do enough homework into the letter of the law... but wow, yes, I did do a deep dive and it was pretty yikes. And hollow. STILL! Horrible timing. And they should have just let it alone, regardless. And if Leo wants to beat the "religion is evil" drum, yes, this was probably a thing solely motivated by religion. This one time. But if the actual legalese had been airtight, we wouldn't be in this predicament.

I mean, had Obama done his job.... had 8 whole years to do it. But I figure the dope felt it was airtight and whatnot. Or just never really cared about it.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean, had Obama done his job.... had 8 whole years to do it. But I figure the dope felt it was airtight and whatnot. Or just never really cared about it.

It kind of comes down to there is just no way to Tetris in "abortion" into the constitution. Essentially. It just wasn't a thing they allotted for in it, no matter how they retroactively try to make it fit by this vague bit of text or the other one. Roe V Wade basically said "there is something in there, somewhere in the Constitution that would allow this, and later on we'll figure out where" and turns out, nope. Is my understanding.

Which is where the "we need to burn the constitution and start anew!" types come in. Though I don't know. Can we not just make a new amendment that's pro-abortion and just vote on it now and get it over with? Why is this difficult? I'd vote yes, for sure. As long as the door isn't open to abortions like 4.5-9 months. And yes, while we like to believe they're not happening, the door is wide open for 9 month abortions and they are happening willy nilly in blue states including my own.

[ChosenOne]

The left is obsessed with Hitler

In other words, they're narcissists.

[1987]

Leftist media already with the hit pieces :lol: :tlol:

https://i.imgur.com/70vOW0k.jpg?2

https://i.imgur.com/5Grcsu8.jpg?3

[ProphetofGanja]

What a chaotic time to be alive :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

Leftist media already with the hit pieces :lol: :tlol:

https://i.imgur.com/70vOW0k.jpg?2

https://i.imgur.com/5Grcsu8.jpg?3

Yep. They can't help themselves. They could just say former president Trump announced he's running again in 2024 but they just gotta add alllll the potshots in there.

[ChosenOne]

Setting themselves up to be hit back: "Donald Trump, whose legitimate election was overturned, launches 2024 bid"

[Cowabung-Gal]

If Trump wins the 2024 election, we will have another Jan 6, but by Antifa this time. The media will call them “heroes” instead of “insurrectionists”, bail them out of jail almost immediately, and award them with Amazon gift cards and a free trip to Epstein Island.

But in order for Trump to win, he’ll have to provide actual solutions instead of just ragging on Biden and the Democrats for their failures. Also, no more mail-in ballots, but of course the Democrats won’t agree to that, like ever.

[Vegita-San]

>>He attacked through insurrection, threatened Pence/family's life and stolen more than 700 classified doments with several of them oddly missing. Not only 14th Amendment Section 3 should be invoked now but I rather re-elect Nixon over this tiny handed crybaby of a bankrupt SOAB.>>

when you wonder if responding to someone like this on twitter is even worth the effort :)

[Coola Yagami]

>>He attacked through insurrection, threatened Pence/family's life and stolen more than 700 classified doments with several of them oddly missing. Not only 14th Amendment Section 3 should be invoked now but I rather re-elect Nixon over this tiny handed crybaby of a bankrupt SOAB.>>

when you wonder if responding to someone like this on twitter is even worth the effort :)

It's a waste of time, but at least you'll ruin his day. Best case scenario, they blow a gasket and pop a blood vessel over their own stupid obsession.

[ChosenOne]

It's a waste of time, but at least you'll ruin his day. Best case scenario, they blow a gasket and pop a blood vessel over their own stupid obsession.

Sounds like even a butterfly landing on him would ruin his day.

[Cowabung-Gal]

So now that Nancy Pelosi is out of the job, the Democrats have no more use of her, which means that they will no longer cover up for her husband or his drug dealer/secret lover/whoever he was to the old man. Get ready for another media crucifixion.

[ChosenOne]

Sad to see Nancy go. Now who's Trump gonna troll mercilessly in his third term?

[Vegita-San]

So now that Nancy Pelosi is out of the job, the Democrats have no more use of her, which means that they will no longer cover up for her husband or his drug dealer/secret lover/whoever he was to the old man. Get ready for another media crucifixion.

one could hope. but they'd probably only do that for leverage on something.
don't trash for free....political modo

[Coola Yagami]

So now that Nancy Pelosi is out of the job, the Democrats have no more use of her, which means that they will no longer cover up for her husband or his drug dealer/secret lover/whoever he was to the old man. Get ready for another media crucifixion.

I remember Trump mentioning she was fired and wondering if it was true.

[1987]

Ding dong Pelosi is gone! :lol: Running off with that FTX money laundered back from Ukraine. She did what she was told, Pelosi has been overthrown but whoever they put in to replace her will be just as corrupt.

Democrats will pin you against the wall and force you to pick a side. If you’re a MAGA Trump supporter then you must be bigoted, fascist, racist, mysogonistic, nazi, transphobic, threat to their democracy, etc.

But Democrats do like the anti-trump Republicans who obey their masters, the uniparty snakes such as McConnell, McCarthy, Cheney, Romney etc, all the swamp rats are paid opposition. Chuck Schumer urges Republicans do ditch MAGA for the good of the GOP. So basically it’s out in the open now, Democrats and Republicans career politicians are a corrupt uniparty. They don’t want an outsider like Trump to be president, cause they can’t control him, he’s not a paid shill, he already has all the money he’ll ever need. This is why the elite hate him, and average hardworking Americans support him.

https://i.imgur.com/0NCGv9K.jpg

[IMJ]

Chuck Schumer is right in that the Republicans need to rebrand and distance themselves from Trump. He's right.

But he's right for reasons of agenda and manipulation and he's a raging piece of $#!( from all angles. He thinks so little of his constituency that he used a stick pointer to read karaoke words of manipulation off of a Bader-Ginsberg poster to mobilize them. And they ate it up. I can only imagine what he and Pelosi get together to do with each other while Pelosi's husband is out driving drunk.