Alien 6 for Hulu

[Andrew NDB]

Coming from writer/director Fede Alvarez.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/alien-movie-fede-alvarez-20th-century-studios-1235037155/

Cailee Spaeny is the lead actress.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/cailee-spaeny-to-lead-new-alien-film/?fbclid=IwAR19zF690W_WB0ngjAYLOUhDGzxdYmM-fgDxPndvONMPJxAuPn_hKbbzZ44

[oldmanwinters]

They just won’t quit!

[Andrew NDB]

Probably we can expect a Prey-level boiled down Alien thing.

[oldmanwinters]

I thought Prometheus and Alien Covenant formed their own spin off series (similar to AvP films) Was Cov. the fifth film and Prometheus the outlier?

[neatoman]

They just won’t quit!

Well, six official installments and three spin-off movies over the course of 45 years is kind of considered a low count these days.

[Andrew NDB]

I thought Prometheus and Alien Covenant formed their own spin off series (similar to AvP films) Was Cov. the fifth film and Prometheus the outlier?

Yeah. It's not an Alien movie even though it is.

[oldmanwinters]

Well, six official installments and three spin-off movies over the course of 45 years is kind of considered a low count these days.

I think it's more notable when a franchise keeps getting recycled/rebooted despite not having a universally well-regarded movie since 1986. I know both Prometheus and Covenant have their fans, but... it's a franchise that peaked in the mid-80s and hasn't come anywhere close to recapturing that level of success.

[The Deadman]

I thought Prometheus and Alien Covenant formed their own spin off series (similar to AvP films) Was Cov. the fifth film and Prometheus the outlier?

Prometheus, Covenant and the one that got cancelled after Covenant were the prequel series to the original Alien.

[Andrew NDB]

Going to be Alien: Romulus, apparently.

https://www.budapestreporter.com/a-new-alien-movie-is-in-the-works-fede-alvarez-is-directing/

[AquaParade]

I still want to see Blomkamp's Alien. The concept art is awesome.

[member_removed]

's Probably we can expect a Prey-level boiled down Alien thing.

Sign me up, I really enjoyed Prey.

I think it's more notable when a franchise keeps getting recycled/rebooted despite not having a universally well-regarded movie since 1986. I know both Prometheus and Covenant have their fans, but... it's a franchise that peaked in the mid-80s and hasn't come anywhere close to recapturing that level of success.

See the Terminator franchise, except the early 90's.

[neatoman]

Going to be Alien: Romulus, apparently.

https://www.budapestreporter.com/a-new-alien-movie-is-in-the-works-fede-alvarez-is-directing/

Dude... What if like... The Aliens ended up fighting the Romulans from Star Trek?

[Sumac]

Aliens in the Ancient Rome?
Rome was founded by Xenomorphes!?
Roman Emperors were Xenomoprhs in disguise?!?!!?

[member_removed]

Dude... What if like... The Aliens ended up fighting the Romulans from Star Trek?

I would watch that!

Followed by Predators vs Klingons and finally Borg vs Terminators.

[Andrew NDB]

Shooting next week:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-alien-film-sets-its-main-cast/?fbclid=IwAR3zj7e475e05_tF8THcXCG9g5hyRX9UZf2LHnMB h4E9OmJAKqJ4q612CvE

Apparently it takes place in a "distant colony" with a group of young people trying to survive the xenomorphs.

[Sumac]

Apparently it takes place in a "distant colony" with a group of young people trying to survive the xenomorphs.
Friday 13th meets Xenomorhps?

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/alien-romulus-set-between-the-films/

So while the Alien TV show will take place "around Prometheus," this movie will take place between Alien and Aliens, and will have the original people making the suits for Cameron's Aliens. So it'll have an Aliens look.

[The Deadman]

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[Andrew NDB]

Hm... so that's all it is, then? I thought maybe it'd be the colonists' story on LV-426 (because what else could it possibly be, between Alien and Aliens?). Maybe it'll turn out alright but it looks like more "Alien: Greatest Hits Collection" like Covenant was.

[Andrew NDB]

Second trailer.

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I hope people aren't expecting too much of this. From what I wager, I'd expect something technically impressive and capable (if small in scope), but mostly just a lot of people running around and screaming. I don't think we're going to be taken any place "new."

[CyberCubed]

There hasn't been a good Aliens movie since Aliens in 1986. After the 4 meh to bad movies before this I don't think anyone is expecting much.

[IMJ]

That's why Prometheus was terrific. It had a an amazing story, enough fibers to become the franchise itself, and the VFX work were photo real in every capacity. But now we will do more dark and smoke scares with Xenomorphs.

[Andrew NDB]

That's why Prometheus was terrific. It had a an amazing story

There was nothing wrong with the story (beyond it almost being an almost copy-paste remake of AVP! finding travel coordinates from temples, traveling to a temple with traps in it, etc.) but it's a pity it was full of truly stupid-headed characters. Which they then doubled down on with Covenant. Which killed Ridley Scott's prequel quadrilogy dead in its tracks.

[IMJ]

Yeah, I didn't hate Covenant but.....I don't go back and watch it. At all.

[Barkworm]

The first Alien film is probably one of my favourite films ever. Apart from that one bad second where you see the Xenomorph for the first time and it looks like a guy in a rubber suit going „BOO!“, it‘s flawless. The second one has this pulpy 80s-action-B-movie feel to it in the beginning but the final act is fantastic. I also enjoyed the third one, mainly because I used to be a fan of David Fincher.

But everything after that was people trying to milk a franchise in which everything had been said. Alien 4 was dumb, Prometheus looked great but was incredibly stupid. With this one I‘m not even going to watch a trailer.

[IMJ]

The first Alien film is probably one of my favourite films ever. Apart from that one bad second where you see the Xenomorph for the first time and it looks like a guy in a rubber suit going „BOO!“, it‘s flawless. The second one has this pulpy 80s-action-B-movie feel to it in the beginning but the final act is fantastic. I also enjoyed the third one, mainly because I used to be a fan of David Fincher.

But everything after that was people trying to milk a franchise in which everything had been said. Alien 4 was dumb, Prometheus looked great but was incredibly stupid. With this one I‘m not even going to watch a trailer.

Yeah looking back at it there is a lot of Alien content out there on film and yet it's only been "great" a couple of times..... It's the same with Predator too. The first one, then the one with Adrian Brody were terrific. I thought Prey was brilliant and honestly "Predator throughout history" is probably the best way to go with that franchise....

[Andrew NDB]

It's the same with Predator too. The first one, then the one with Adrian Brody were terrific.

Predators was great until the end of it. They totally screwed up at the end and it was a huge missed opportunity.

I thought Prey was brilliant and honestly "Predator throughout history" is probably the best way to go with that franchise....

I think there's a lot of ways to go with Predator they haven't gone. A Machiko Noguchi-type story where a human earns their way into a Predator hunting party, going world to world would be neat. A National Geographic-style almost documentary of "day in the life" or "week in the life" of a Predator growing into manhood on the Predator homeworld would be neat. A focused, Saving Private Ryan, storming Normandy Beach-style AVP movie where a pack of Predators take on a full-on Alien hive, possibly even on the Alien homeworld would be neat. Predators and Engineers? Maybe there's something there. The most boring thing to me is just a rinse and repeat, "A Predator comes, there is a cat and mouse until an unlikely hero gets the upper hand and outsmarts/outwits the Predator." Enough time had passed that we hadn't seen that formula before with Prey, but to do it again would be dumb.

[IMJ]

To be honest they need to do a direct sequel to Arnold's movie - but they do something that develops the story. Dutch gets involved again at the governments request because they acknowledge these things exist and they have to do something to stop the Predator race from coming to Earth en masse because they started looking down on us rather than just hunting, or something like that. Maybe even put Adrian Brody in it somehow.

Something that raises the stakes and takes the story up a level.

[Andrew NDB]

To be honest they need to do a direct sequel to Arnold's movie - but they do something that develops the story. Dutch gets involved again at the governments request because they acknowledge these things exist and they have to do something to stop the Predator race from coming to Earth en masse because they started looking down on us rather than just hunting, or something like that. Maybe even put Adrian Brody in it somehow.

Something that raises the stakes and takes the story up a level.

I'd be all about that! Just call it "DUTCH," but in the Predator font. They'd better do it quick while Arnold is still able to stand.

[Andrew NDB]

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[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/xenomorphs-galore-in-alien-tv-spot/

So any thoughts to how this takes place between Alien and Aliens? We know Weyland-Yutani hadn't found that derelict vessel on LV-426 all the way up to Aliens... so how are there Aliens in this? They had to have found that drone Ripley ejected from the Nostromo, floating in space? Right? What else can it be? And it looks like we have Drones being "born" out of sacs from the wall, sort of like the Drone was facilitating in the walls in the deleted scene in Alien.

And then this Romulus station obviously gets thoroughly destroyed by the end of the movie. Otherwise why would Weyland-Yutani care so much about sending Ripley back to LV-426 or even Ripley herself in Alien 3 and so on?

[neatoman]

I've seen the movie.


Prometheus is definitely part of canon as far as this movie is concerned and presumably Covenant too.
No, it does not directly continue the plot from either, the stuff about David experimenting on people is not continued upon.
The main thing taken from those movies is that Weyland-Yutani's interest in the Aliens is that they want to extract the black goo from them.
The way the Aliens enter the plot of this is that they obtained the carcass of the one from the original film, turns out Ripley didn't really destroy it, she just stranded it in space.
The disaster has already happened and the main characters just sort of reignite it because they wanted to salvage some cryo-pods.
They want to take the cryo-pods illegally so they can escape the indentured servitude Weyland-Yutani put them under and go to a system colonised by someone else, confirming W-Y is not almighty and other factions do exist.
The villain of the movie is an android the same model as Ash and wants to make sure the black goo can be researched further.
The purpose of the goo is to modify humans so they can live in space without the slight things that can't be fixed with terraforming getting in the way.
Facehuggers can't see apparently, they go by sound and heat, so if the room matches body temperature perfectly and you don't make a sound you're invisible to them.
A pregnant woman takes the goo to heal an injury and the baby turns into the final boss of the movie, an Alien with a human face and skin.
The surviving woman puts herself into stasis along with her android companion, but the android was previously reprogrammed by the Ash model and that may cause problems in future movies.

[Andrew NDB]

That's actually a lot more impressive than I figured. Delving deeper into the black goo is definitely a good choice as opposed to just more "Boo!" stuff we've already seen. Plus it makes Prometheus "matter" more in the bigger picture.

But... the station does get destroyed, right? It can't exist or the Company's behavior in Aliens and Alien 3 wouldn't make a ton of sense.

Also, the actual ending sounds a lot like the ending of Covenant, with the main lady in the crypod going to sleep and David revealing that he's David to her. Maybe a Romulus sequel could tie into the end of Covenant and link up the people at the end of Romulus with the world that David has settled at.

[neatoman]

That's actually a lot more impressive than I figured. Delving deeper into the black goo is definitely a good choice as opposed to just more "Boo!" stuff we've already seen. Plus it makes Prometheus "matter" more in the bigger picture.

But... the station does get destroyed, right? It can't exist or the Company's behavior in Aliens and Alien 3 wouldn't make a ton of sense.

Yes, it crashes into the planet's rings and is essentially sand blasted into oblivion.

[Andrew NDB]

Though wait... they somehow distill the remains of the Alien drone from Alien into the black goo (#1, how?), but how do they use that to create another Alien drone?

Unless the idea is that it is easy to create Aliens as we know them from the black goo. Which would simultaneously cement that David wasn't the first one to do so.

[neatoman]

Though wait... they somehow distill the remains of the Alien drone from Alien into the black goo (#1, how?), but how do they use that to create another Alien drone?

They don't really explain how they extracted the goo. As for the second question, I don't really know that either. They are however keeping facehuggers on ice, so cloning maybe? I also think the movie is operating on the logic from the alternate cut of Alien 1, where the queen isn't really necessary and the Aliens can just sort of "craft" the eggs.

[Andrew NDB]

Do they SAY the Alien Drone from Alien that was recovered was still alive, or just a husk? If it was still alive then maybe the goo didn't create anything and yeah, the Drone just finished what it was starting in the Alien deleted scene.

[neatoman]

Do they SAY the Alien Drone from Alien that was recovered was still alive, or just a husk? If it was still alive then maybe the goo didn't create anything and yeah, the Drone just finished what it was starting in the Alien deleted scene.

This is where I'm not quite sure. I think the Ash android says something along the lines of how it's the perfect life-form and could not be destroyed so easily, but I don't think they 100% confirm that thing was still actually alive and there are way too many Aliens running around to determine if any of them is that one. When they obtained it, it was encased in a meteor like structure and then opened up, it looked pretty damn static to me.

My gut says that it's dead when they find it but the body is still basically intact. But it could just as easily have been alive, I need to rewatch it to tell for sure.

[Andrew NDB]

it was encased in a meteor like structure

How the hell would that have happened? It got blown off the back of the Narcissus and away from it by the thrusters. Pretty low odds it'd somehow end up in a... meteor? Or anything like that?

Though that also begs a question. If WY was able to extrapolate the trajectory of the Alien drone being pushed away infinitely from the back of the Narcissus... why were they not able to extrapolate the forward course of the Narcissus?

[neatoman]

How the hell would that have happened? It got blown off the back of the Narcissus and away from it by the thrusters. Pretty low odds it'd somehow end up in a... meteor? Or anything like that?

Though that also begs a question. If WT was able to extrapolate the trajectory of the Alien drone being pushed away infinitely from the back of the Narcissus... why were they not able to extrapolate the forward course of the Narcissus?

It's not really explained either, though we do get a new stage in the life cycle in this movie, the chestburster is shown to create a cocoon in order to mature into an adult. Maybe it's related to that?

[Zulithe]

I am going to see it this weekend. Haven't decided on Friday or Sunday yet. Avoiding all spoilers for now.

The popcorn buckets and cups they rolled out to theaters for this are wild though.

[Coola Yagami]

So is this all prequel stuff or how does Ripley even fit into the plot anymore?

[Mayhem]

So is this all prequel stuff or how does Ripley even fit into the plot anymore?
It's set between Alien and Aliens.

[Andrew NDB]

So is this all prequel stuff or how does Ripley even fit into the plot anymore?

Ripley hasn't fit into the plot of any Alien movies for almost 30 years. This is an between-quel. Ripley technically sets the plot in this movie in motion by ejecting the Alien Drone from the Narcissus at the end of Alien 1 but spends this movie floating in space asleep, only halfway through her 50+ year journey to Aliens.

It's not really explained either, though we do get a new stage in the life cycle in this movie, the chestburster is shown to create a cocoon in order to mature into an adult. Maybe it's related to that?

Huh, OK. I guess that would make sense, especially if they're in the vacuum of space. I guess that means the Alien Queen Ripley ejected from the Nostromo in Aliens is floating around the same star system, encased in something similar.

[Andrew NDB]

Aw man... how stupid... they literally bring back the "get away from her you B*TCH!" line as a callback. So, so stupid. This is even worse than the callbacks to the lines of Predator in Predators. This is next level stupid. And now if you watch the Aliens movies in order, a newb will be like, "How dumb of Ripley, copying that line from Romulus!"

[CyberCubed]

I'll have to wait till this comes out on the streaming websites in HD. I actually spent money on theaters to watch Deadpool/Wolverine, so I used up my "quota" for the year of paying real money to watch a movie. I haven't purchased a movie ticket in so long I forgot what it was like, didn't buy any of the overpriced popcorn or snacks either. So I watched my one movie in theaters this year.

Everything else I can wait a month to watch on the illegal streaming websites in HD. At this point things come out in like a month or less now. Saves me both time and money. Especially since movies like this may not even be good.

[Coola Yagami]

I'll have to wait till this comes out on the streaming websites in HD. I actually spent money on theaters to watch Deadpool/Wolverine, so I used up my "quota" for the year of paying real money to watch a movie. I haven't purchased a movie ticket in so long I forgot what it was like, didn't buy any of the overpriced popcorn or snacks either. So I watched my one movie in theaters this year.

Everything else I can wait a month to watch on the illegal streaming websites in HD. At this point things come out in like a month or less now. Saves me both time and money. Especially since movies like this may not even be good.

Never change Cubed. Never change.

[Andrew NDB]

This was the review I posted to my wall:

Alien: Romulus. Hmm... I'm not sure. It was well made and the characters were well cast, distinctive, even memorable and the story itself was straight forward and clear, which already right there gives it more going for it than maybe any Alien movie since Aliens. The problem is that it's as much a "greatest hits" for the little moments cherry-picked from all the movies so far as it is a "greatest hits" of the stuff that most would agree is the worst moments/biggest mistakes of them. I could rattle off a bunch, but the biggest one: remember how in AVP and Covenant everyone was up in arms at how ridiculously fast the Aliens grew? Well, this has them beat and boy, by far.

I think largely this is Ridley and his notes using Fede Alvarez as the horse to ride back into Fox with to complete whatever he was doing with those last two Alien prequels he never got to make (you know, if this ends up being a money maker). In some fashion. The ones that Prometheus 2 killed when it morphed into Alien: Covenant and underperformed, which, ironically, was itself also a big "greatest hits" of the Alien movies. "People didn't like the clean, sterile and advanced Prometheus ship? Here's a dingy, retro-future 70s ship again, the Covenant! People want everyday people and not scientists? Here are some grubby colonists! You want the original Alien and facehuggers running around? Here you go!" and so on.

I actually enjoyed it, I just think a lot of the really, really stupid callbacks and "homage" shots replicated from the other Alien movies really hurt it, especially if you ever tried to sneak this in between Alien and Aliens in any marathon run and most especially if you ever did so with someone who has never seen the movies before.

The sequels I'd like to see at this point:

* Just let Ridley do it. Do the big Prometheus 2 we were promised and never got. Let's see the REAL Engineer homeworld and get to know the real Alien origins. And somehow whatever David is up to with those colonists on the planet he went to with them could come into play.

* If not the Blomkamp movie, then a Blomkamp-like movie with better writers attached.

* If we could put aside our probably shared dislike of Alien: Resurrection, an Alien: Resurrection sequel with Ripley-8 feeling a call to the Alien homeworld (no, I don't buy that David created the first Aliens or anything) or something would make a lot of sense. While Sigourney Weaver is still remotely up to the task. And more Engineer stuff could come into play.

* Anything but another: "experiments/accident/blah blah, Aliens on a new ship or station or enclosed area and everyone gets whittled down to 1 or 2 people," etc..

[Andrew NDB]

So it looks like Romulus did what it needed to do. By the time it's over it will have gotten about as much money as Prometheus and over the same period, but at almost half the cost of Prometheus. And Prometheus was considered a modest success (though technically speaking is the highest grossing Alien movie ever).

So yeah. Either Fede gets a part 2 or Ridley gets to continue his prequels. Something is going to happen now for sure.

[TigerClaw]

So it looks like Romulus did what it needed to do. By the time it's over it will have gotten about as much money as Prometheus and over the same period, but at almost half the cost of Prometheus. And Prometheus was considered a modest success (though technically speaking is the highest grossing Alien movie ever).

So yeah. Either Fede gets a part 2 or Ridley gets to continue his prequels. Something is going to happen now for sure.
There is still that Alien TV show that's coming out, It takes place way before Prometheus.

[Andrew NDB]

There is still that Alien TV show that's coming out, It takes place way before Prometheus.

Not "way before Prometheus." It takes place one year before it and then alongside it.

[neatoman]

I recently found out that Cameron intended for the androids to be constructed by Cyberdyne but it was changed for copyright reasons.

Can you imagine though? The Terminator movies constant time travel nonsense finally succeeds in preventing the robot apocalypse and the need for time travel, but then the robots end up being used to bring aliens to earth that are a far worse can of worms than Skynet ever could have been?

[Andrew NDB]

Ridley Scott snuck some Blade Runner references into Prometheus, so there's that. And if you do that, then you get SOLDIER, too. I don't know that it's too much of a stretch to tie the Avatar movies into them, either.

[Andrew NDB]

So Romulus looks like it's wrapping up its run as the second highest grossing Alien movie, second only to Prometheus, and that's both domestically and internationally. And domestically it is only the second Alien movie after Prometheus to crack 100 million.

Also, by comparison, Alien: Romulus has done way better than any Predator movie. And it's not even close.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah...

https://www.ign.com/articles/ridley-scott-says-hes-working-on-20th-century-foxs-new-alien-movie

[Andrew NDB]

They fixed the CGI on Rook for home release. Apparently.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/alien-romulus-altered-cg-rook-post-release/