The Damar Hamlin situation...

[Vegita-San]

this whole thing is weird.

Guy died on field. players crying like babies. NFL wants the game too resume in 5 minutes like nothing happened. ambulance doesn't rush off with sirens. waits for mom too go down. FBI supposedly in his hospital room. And now this odd nfl stunt...'look, he's OK! but his skin is just a tad lighter, and his family has too be brought in seperately, and look like they are not happy at all...and...and..'...

NO ONE seems too be buying this was damar at the game, except the media afraid for their jobs. have they even been covering this? you'd think a guy dying on the field would be a big scoop...but I only remember seeing short blurbs...

My theory :The guy is either dead, or brain dead due too vacinee booster. after the season ends....he'll either 'retire for privacy' and never be heard from again, or he'll 'die from complications '.....

what do you think?

[Andrew NDB]

He took a hard hit and got his bell rung. Is there some truth to people "dropping dead" from the vaccine? Maybe, there is a lot of data about sudden heart conditions being seen in the very young out of nowhere, but it isn't clear if this is from the vaccine or COVID itself or something else entirely. Because there isn't really any studies being done.

[oldmanwinters]

This would be a real hard conspiracy to pull off, especially long term. What’s the motive and ultimate end game?

[Jester]

this whole thing is weird.

Guy died on field. players crying like babies. NFL wants the game too resume in 5 minutes like nothing happened. ambulance doesn't rush off with sirens. waits for mom too go down. FBI supposedly in his hospital room. And now this odd nfl stunt...'look, he's OK! but his skin is just a tad lighter, and his family has too be brought in seperately, and look like they are not happy at all...and...and..'...

NO ONE seems too be buying this was damar at the game, except the media afraid for their jobs. have they even been covering this? you'd think a guy dying on the field would be a big scoop...but I only remember seeing short blurbs...

My theory :The guy is either dead, or brain dead due too vacinee booster. after the season ends....he'll either 'retire for privacy' and never be heard from again, or he'll 'die from complications '.....

what do you think?

https://nedhardy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/judith_hoag_tmnt.jpg

Would you mind repeating that? In English, perhaps.

[Coola Yagami]

He took a hard hit and got his bell rung. Is there some truth to people "dropping dead" from the vaccine? Maybe, there is a lot of data about sudden heart conditions being seen in the very young out of nowhere, but it isn't clear if this is from the vaccine or COVID itself or something else entirely. Because there isn't really any studies being done.

Why would the FBI be involved?

Also don't forget Sudden Death Syndrome that no one seems to know the cause of it is, or rather are too afraid to tell what the cause of it is.

[Vegita-San]

This would be a real hard conspiracy to pull off, especially long term. What’s the motive and ultimate end game?

maybe. supposedly it's been done before, with a nurse who had a similair case of just dropping dead.

if this is real, and not a conspiracy.... the end game is money. Pfizer is supposedly a big sponsor. having a player drop dead from a jab would not only make them look bad, but cause massive backlash. both from fans, and players, who would probably sue for being forced too take the jab.

The Bills should have been rallied at their friend being there to support them. they had home field advantage, and weather advantage...and where the better team going in. it's like they didn't show up. So, either they know that wasn't him, and their friend is either gone, or REALLY not doing well, likely never to fully recover..

I don't know. If people where saying this BEFORE the stunt happened, I would have written it all off. but AFTER that odd WWE like stunt, (like something you'd see pre match).......it makes one think what's really going on.

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah honestly the reason for this 'conspiracy' would be because there would be hell to pay if the truth ever came out about this vaccine, considering all the measures they took to force everyone to take it, and how they demonized anyone that dared to question is.

The biggest thing is this wasn't some friend of a friend or whatever of some made-up story. This is someone that flat out dropped dead on live TV in a game millions watched. If it were to come out that the vaccine caused it, there would be no denial, we all literally SAW it happen in real time. It wasn't a 'fake editted video' or whatever. It happened before our very eyes.

[Cowabung-Gal]

It’s called Commotio cordis. If you take a hit to the chest at the right time, especially while participating in sports, you could go into cardiac arrest. And that’s most likely what happened to Damar, ‘cause if you watch the video, you can see him taking a blow to the chest right as he tackled that player.

[oldmanwinters]

Yeah honestly the reason for this 'conspiracy' would be because there would be hell to pay if the truth ever came out about this vaccine, considering all the measures they took to force everyone to take it, and how they demonized anyone that dared to question is.

The biggest thing is this wasn't some friend of a friend or whatever of some made-up story. This is someone that flat out dropped dead on live TV in a game millions watched. If it were to come out that the vaccine caused it, there would be no denial, we all literally SAW it happen in real time. It wasn't a 'fake editted video' or whatever. It happened before our very eyes.

Wouldn't it be WAY easier to cover-up or obscure the cause of death (happens pretty frequently) than to fake a death (or would that be fake a survival)?, convince everyone from the medical staff/media/NFL/teammates/et. al., create fake photographs and video chats from the hospital, and then introduce a body double (or actual clone if you get really deep into this) to make public appearances, etc? And on top of that, you still have to make a plan to announce the guy's dead eventually at a more strategic time, after which people will still speculate about cause of death, which means you are right back at square one having to manufacture a fake autopsy or something equivalent to keep appearances up.

[Coola Yagami]

Well in this case, how long ago did he get vaxxed or boosted? These types can't help but virtue signal every time they get the jab, they just can't do it 'because it's the right thing to do', they need those head pats and Twitter likes, so it wouldn't be too difficult to pinpoint.

A lot of times these cases are easy to tie a correlation to the jab because more often than not a few weeks prior they're bragging about how they just got their 3rd or 4th jab all over social media.

[oldmanwinters]

In all my excitement, I didn't even mention the real trick about successfully pulling off a body double/clone faked survival conspiracy... dude's FAMILY... Parents/grandparents/siblings/uncles/aunts/cousins/etc. How many extended families would be willing to play along with a grand charade of that nature? How much money or ransom would have to be generated to pay them off? And assuming the entire Hamlin extended family only cared about getting filthy rich off one of the grandest lies ever told, don't you think there would be plenty of legitimate ways for them to get money through wrongful death negligence lawsuits against the NFL, vaccine suppliers, Cincinnati medical response team, etc.? Think of all the recent lawsuits over police action/abuse where the families of deceased folks are able to get tons of money AND publicly mourn their loved ones; and yet they decided to buy into a massive government coverup instead?

Maybe you open the possibility of the 1928 LAPD debacle where the police tried to pass off a runaway boy as the found missing son of Christine Collins and then try to pressure everybody into believing it's true and that anyone (even the mother) who might argue to the contrary is crazy or over-stressed. It didn't work then and it would be infinitely harder to pull of in 2023 with advances in forensic science.

The degree of competence and compliance required to pull off a conspiracy of this nature would truly astound me.

[Coola Yagami]

In all my excitement, I didn't even mention the real trick about successfully pulling off a body double/clone faked survival conspiracy... dude's FAMILY... Parents/grandparents/siblings/uncles/aunts/cousins/etc. How many extended families would be willing to play along with a grand charade of that nature? How much money or ransom would have to be generated to pay them off? And assuming the entire Hamlin extended family only cared about getting filthy rich off one of the grandest lies ever told, don't you think there would be plenty of legitimate ways for them to get money through wrongful death negligence lawsuits against the NFL, vaccine suppliers, Cincinnati medical response team, etc.? Think of all the recent lawsuits over police action/abuse where the families of deceased folks are able to get tons of money AND publicly mourn their loved ones; and yet they decided to buy into a massive government coverup instead?

Maybe you open the possibility of the 1928 LAPD debacle where the police tried to pass off a runaway boy as the found missing son of Christine Collins and then try to pressure everybody into believing it's true and that anyone (even the mother) who might argue to the contrary is crazy or over-stressed. It didn't work then and it would be infinitely harder to pull of in 2023 with advances in forensic science.

The degree of competence and compliance required to pull off a conspiracy of this nature would truly astound me.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if he suddenly decides to retire and vanish off the face of the earth after the season ends.

Like they said if such a charade is being done, it just had to be played out until the season ends. They can just say he died of whatever afterwards.

Honestly the body double is kinda reaching. That borders too much on General Hospital kind of madness. I'm sure he almost died and was resuscitated. I'm just wondering if there were any 'i just boosted!" Tweets several weeks prior that are suddenly deleted.

[Vegita-San]

In all my excitement, I didn't even mention the real trick about successfully pulling off a body double/clone faked survival conspiracy... dude's FAMILY... Parents/grandparents/siblings/uncles/aunts/cousins/etc. How many extended families would be willing to play along with a grand charade of that nature? How much money or ransom would have to be generated to pay them off? And assuming the entire Hamlin extended family only cared about getting filthy rich off one of the grandest lies ever told, don't you think there would be plenty of legitimate ways for them to get money through wrongful death negligence lawsuits against the NFL, vaccine suppliers, Cincinnati medical response team, etc.? Think of all the recent lawsuits over police action/abuse where the families of deceased folks are able to get tons of money AND publicly mourn their loved ones; and yet they decided to buy into a massive government coverup instead?

Maybe you open the possibility of the 1928 LAPD debacle where the police tried to pass off a runaway boy as the found missing son of Christine Collins and then try to pressure everybody into believing it's true and that anyone (even the mother) who might argue to the contrary is crazy or over-stressed. It didn't work then and it would be infinitely harder to pull of in 2023 with advances in forensic science.

The degree of competence and compliance required to pull off a conspiracy of this nature would truly astound me.


But then, why the FBI? It's their JOB too make things dissapear, with things like the FBI Protection program. and, even though I hate too say it...lots of the black lives matter folks where more than happy their troublesome relative was gone, and enjoying their new found fame and money. and then they quietly went away into investment land. people forgot about them over time.

I think this is all about money. if the guy dies because of covid BEFORE the superbowl, they and pfiezer would be in big trouble if it was because of the shot they mandated. If it's about gambling, someone said the Bills where supposed to be the team and has alot of money running on them. they could have brought in a body double to try and rally the team too win...and that clearly didn't work either if they know what's going on.

The SMART thing too do would have been to do nothing. But when dealing with woke companies and lots of money, that smart thing usually never happens, and they find ways to fail spectacularly.

I'd love for the new twitter too keep the heat on the NFL to produce hamilin BEFORE the superbowl. IF he's ok, fine. If he's dead and they've been trying too cover it up...they are screwed either way, because sooner or later, someone will be brave enough to speak out.

[TurtleManiac]

Good to see someone addressing the elephant in the room.

Yes he got tackled, but we all saw the video by now, it really wasn’t that hard of a tackle. He even got up right after before collapsing. 9 minutes of CPR and 2 heart attacks, caused by a tackle? Something seems off here.

Dr Fauci even came out of retirement after this, to defend the vaccines and say it had nothing to do with Damar Hamlin, and that you should still get your boosters or whatever.

If he really is dead and they’re trying to cover it up, I would imagine it’s because the Super Bowl is in a couple weeks. But idk, seems like a bit of a stretch. Maybe he’s just covering his face cause he got facial paralysis from the stroke. Or if it’s a body double, maybe the real Damar is still in a coma trying to recover? Since he had 9 minutes of CPR, ribs could be broken, how was he walking around the arena waving his arms up and down? Seen on twitter some people found death certificates that match. Idk, the whole thing is crazy.

Another former NFL player, Uche Nwaneri, actually died of cardiac arrest like 2 days before the Damar incident, but most probably didn’t hear about it since it didn’t happen on live TV and get national coverage. He had previously called for un-vaccinated people to be jailed in a cryptic tweet from 2021. Fast forward to December 2022, dude suddenly drops dead at 38.

Another celebrity cardiac arrest victim, American Idol contestant CJ Harris, dead at 31. If this is happening to celebrities, how many average civilians are dying suddenly? Mainstream media blames these mysterious deaths on climate change or covid itself. There is a twitter account, @diedsuddenly , and every single day they post these sudden death cardiac arrest in young healthy adults and children.

Moderna is now working on a MRNA vaccine for post heart attack victims that is injected directly into the heart:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11627695/amp/Moderna-begins-trialing-mRNA-shot-injected-directly-HEART.html

And the sad thing is people will take it. The same people that believe covid itself is causing young and healthy to die suddenly and has nothing to do with the vaccine. Lies, fear mongering, and compliance is how they keep this going.

1,676 Athlete Cardiac Arrests or Serious Issues, 1,179 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/

Some TV doctors are warning that “stroke season” is coming after flu season. But they get mad if we ask vaccination status of somebody that dies suddenly, and had no problem asking us vaccination status in 2021/2022 to enter a restaurant. Alot of data was censored and people just trusted their government/doctors who claimed the vaccine was “safe and effective” which we now know was a lie. Alot of people are uncovering the truth and don’t want the booster.

Remember all those doctors that were censored on twitter for warning about the vaccines, well most of them got re-instated since Elon Musk took over. Mainstream media is furious that Elon is not suspending accounts such as @diedsuddenly

From Dr Simone Gold:

“From January 2021 to present, 1101 athletes died from cardiac arrest.
Over a prior 38 years (1966-2004), 1101 athletes under the age of 35 died due to various heart conditions.
The same number of athletes died in the last TWO years as compared to a prior 38 years.”

Crazy if true. This is pure evil. The evidence can no longer be ignored.

[IMJ]

There seems to be a strange increase in younger people having sudden heart failure of sorts, but I think this guy took a directed blow to the head and went down.

[Coola Yagami]

Part of it the denial that a lot of people took something cause they thought it was the right thing to do and now run the risk of dropping dead suddenly or developing heart issues that they never had before getting the jab.

The fact that these things are still being pushed NOW should be criminal.

Imagine Burger King selling meat that's 5% rotten where not everyone but certain people get sick and need to get their stomachs pumped. Then the news comes out. But Burger King just keeps on pumping out potentially poisoned burgers to the public and on top of that you get ridiculed if you choose to stop going there.

[The Deadman]

Gotta love the nutjob conspiracies linking EVERYTHING to the vaccine. If that were the case, NFL players would be dropping dead every day. Stop.

[ChosenOne]

"Nothing to see here! Move along!" - Every leftist/fascist ever.

[Coola Yagami]

Gotta love the nutjob conspiracies linking EVERYTHING to the vaccine. If that were the case, NFL players would be dropping dead every day. Stop.

Yep, keep ignoring Sudden Death Syndrome and the sudden attempts to normalize the idea that healthy young men can also get strokes now as well as all the people with ****ed up faces and so forth. Just let the bodies of people like yourself that took it because they thought they were doing the right thing continue to pile up.

Nothing to see here folks.

[IMJ]

Gotta love the nutjob conspiracies linking EVERYTHING to the vaccine. If that were the case, NFL players would be dropping dead every day. Stop.

Yeahhhhh.... thaaaaaat's..... nottrue.

But it's mostly not true because of the manipulative nature of your statement in an attempt to make it true, which is what I have an issue with (as usual).

These things happen in ratios, dude. Life isn't like Resident Evil where "viruses bestow gifts upon people". The ratio of vaccinated people in proportion to the sudden heart illnesses popping up is in question. You can't defend that by saying "well then EVERRRYYYYYone would have heart issues!" That's some shallow thinking right there.

[Vegita-San]

'ello...what do we have 'ere?

https://twitter.com/search?q=Veritas&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

[Cowabung-Gal]

Whatever the cause, I do know this: I’m glad that I never took a booster shot even the media screeched, “Get Moar, get moar!”. I only took the first two doses of the Moderna one back in 2021 because I had just got infected with the Delta variant. Fortunately it was a mild case and I only lost my taste and smell for a couple of days, but I didn’t want to risk getting sick again or even hospitalized. Even though my family doctor recommended Pfizer, I heard that Moderna was more effective in preventing breakthrough cases. Even after getting the first two doses, I didn’t want to get the third shot because I still didn’t completely trust this new drug, and I still don’t feel the need to take a booster now that the virus is getting even more weak with each variant and we know more about it then we did at the start of the pandemic.

Even my hardcore Democrat aunt who hates DeSantis’ guts is refusing to take another booster. :lol:

[Vegita-San]

i'm not anti vaxx, as they obviously do work....but sometimes things are just fishy. things here seem fishy.

I got one, and then the booster, and suddenly one of my levels dropped too dangerous levels soon after. thankfully, a pill fixed that, but if I wasn't going too a doctor, it could have been worse...so, no more for me, either. done with that stuff.

[Andrew NDB]

I only took the first two doses of the Moderna one back in 2021 because I had just got infected with the Delta variant.

Wouldn't getting Delta be a good enough incentive not to get the vaccine? I got the first two doses of Moderna then later on got what I'm assuming was Delta. Now, if I'd had COVID before then I never would have bothered with it at all. If I'd needed a "proof of vax" slip to get into a restaurant during the stupidity, then I'd just Photoshop one.

[oldmanwinters]

Wouldn't getting Delta be a good enough incentive not to get the vaccine? I got the first two doses of Moderna then later on got what I'm assuming was Delta. Now, if I'd had COVID before then I never would have bothered with it at all. If I'd needed a "proof of vax" slip to get into a restaurant during the stupidity, then I'd just Photoshop one.

I did enjoy getting all the free Krispy Kreme donuts with proof of vaccination card for the second half of 2021. For "my health," indeed.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Even with my “vaxxed” status card, I refused to travel by plane. I ain’t for that “show me your papers” fascist bullcrap.

[Vegita-San]

Even with my “vaxxed” status card, I refused to travel by plane. I ain’t for that “show me your papers” fascist bullcrap.

yeah, that whole crap didn't sit well with me, either. it felt awful odd too be doing that in america, for something people rightly claimed in the begining was nothing more damaging than the flu.

at this point, i'm curious how many of those covid deaths actually happened. I don't know one person who actually died from it.

[Coola Yagami]

i'm not anti vaxx, as they obviously do work....

You're doing what many people do and confusing not taking the CoVid 'vax' for being an anti-vaxxer.

Vaccines work. No one here is disputing that (I hope). It's just the simple fact that there is no real vaccine for CoVid.

Hell, if I put on my conspiracy hat I'd wager the 'anti-vax' movement was set up in advance so when they were ready to unleash CoVid and then the vaccine they could easily say 'well if anyone refuses to take them we can lump them in with the anti-vaxxers that are already hated, then no one will respect or believe them'.

I mean seeing how easily everyone is so quick to say 'oh well they're just anti-vaxxers' and now they even redefined the term to 'anyone against vaccines and vaccine mandates EVEN WHILE BEING VACCINATED THEMSELVES', I would not be surprised if that was the case.

[IMJ]

Even with my “vaxxed” status card, I refused to travel by plane. I ain’t for that “show me your papers” fascist bullcrap.

I don't think they are doing that anymore. We went to Vegas in October and there was no mention of "vaccine" anything when we flew there or back.

[TurtleManiac]

'ello...what do we have 'ere?

https://twitter.com/search?q=Veritas&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

The aftermath: that Pfizer employee claims he was “lying to impress a date”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/pfizer-director-physically-assaults-james-okeefe-veritas-staff-destroys-ipad-showing-undercover-recordings-mutating-covid-virus-nypd-responds-video/

From today, former NFL player Jesse Lemonier dead at 25

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/jessie-lemonier-former-lions-and-chargers-linebacker-dies-at-age-25

2 days ago, 35 year old former NFL player Chris “Swaggy” Baker had a stroke, almost died

https://amp.tmz.com/2023/01/25/ex-nfl-chris-baker-suffers-stroke-recovering/

Even with my “vaxxed” status card, I refused to travel by plane. I ain’t for that “show me your papers” fascist bullcrap.

I simply boycotted any businesses that required “proof of vaccination”. It was a big thing here in California. Then a few months later they dropped all those mandates. I guess alienating half of their customers was too costly for business.

I don't think they are doing that anymore. We went to Vegas in October and there was no mention of "vaccine" anything when we flew there or back.

It seems most of U.S. dropped that vaccine mandate, but I wonder how it is in other countries. I want to go visit family in South America but have no idea what their covid policy is, as far as vaccine ID or testing. I’d rather not leave the country at this point, until if/when this whole thing blows over.

[Andrew NDB]

A big part of that was the black population. Staggeringly high amounts of black people refused to get COVID vaccinations (moreso than any other demo), so what'd you'd end up with is restaurants and businesses refusing by to serve, well, black people. And in the middle of the BLM movement, no less. Not very good optics at all!

[ChosenOne]

You're doing what many people do and confusing not taking the CoVid 'vax' for being an anti-vaxxer.

Vaccines work. No one here is disputing that (I hope). It's just the simple fact that there is no real vaccine for CoVid.

Exactly. Whatever this is, it's both experimental and definitely not performing as advertized. F*ck the jab. Never got it, never will. And many of the people I know who were utterly rabid about persuading me to get it, including family members with whom I had bitter arguments in the early days of the rollout, have fallen oddly silent on the matter lately. Can't fool everyone forever.

[Coola Yagami]

Not to mention the friends I lost and never looked back. Especially with all the stuff we know now, and even that 'CoVid Amnesty' or whatever it was called where they wanted us to just... Forget how we were treated during the pandemic.

I don't actually expect an apology from my former friends, they were always too proud to admit they were wrong, but I did expect them to kinda start talking to me again outta nowhere as if nothing happened. To be honest, not sure how I'd respond. On one side a big '**** you' is well deserved, but on the hand, we were all scared during the pandemic's high time. Ah well.

I'd imagine even if Trump were to drop dead, grandpa still wouldn't be welcome to Thanksgiving cause he voted for him in 2016. Some people are just like that I guess.

[Cowabung-Gal]

VkSIufkTJGw

:teek:

Somebody is busted. And boy did he freak out. :tlol:

[oldmanwinters]

Time for COVID vaccine 2.0 and the retirement of the original dose:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fda-advisers-favor-retiring-original-005346900.html

[Coola Yagami]

Time for COVID vaccine 2.0 and the retirement of the original dose:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fda-advisers-favor-retiring-original-005346900.html

Which we will continue to not get. I mean it's too little too late, the original caused irreparable damage. The trust is gone. Even if this one is an actual vaccine, who's stupid enough to trust it? No one signed up for a bi-annual subscription plan to this. People are getting, enduring and surviving CoVid every day. The mystery is out. It's not an insta-death like we thought.

As long as the mandates are gone, let people poke themselves silly. If they refuse to listen until they suddenly get heart complications that's on them, but at least it will be their choice to make.

It's time to stop. Stop the virtue signaling nonsense, stop the propaganda, stop the headlines with 'so-and-so fired cause they won't take the vaccine' 'project on delay cause lead actor/actress won't take the vaccine'. Just stop all of it. Treat it like the annual flu vaccine, which is all CoVid is now, a bad flu.

Just ****ing stop.

[ChosenOne]

Which we will continue to not get. I mean it's too little too late, the original caused irreparable damage. The trust is gone. Even if this one is an actual vaccine, who's stupid enough to trust it? No one signed up for a bi-annual subscription plan to this. People are getting, enduring and surviving CoVid every day. The mystery is out. It's not an insta-death like we thought.

As long as the mandates are gone, let people poke themselves silly. If they refuse to listen until they suddenly get heart complications that's on them, but at least it will be their choice to make.

It's time to stop. Stop the virtue signaling nonsense, stop the propaganda, stop the headlines with 'so-and-so fired cause they won't take the vaccine' 'project on delay cause lead actor/actress won't take the vaccine'. Just stop all of it. Treat it like the annual flu vaccine, which is all CoVid is now, a bad flu.

Just ****ing stop.

Someone's gonna make a mint off "Bolsonaro Was Right" T-shirts (and I'm sad it won't be me 'cause I don't have the starter cash to invest in that right now).

[Andrew NDB]

Treat it like the annual flu vaccine, which is all CoVid is now, a bad flu.

I've had way, way worse flus than COVID. It's not even close. Flus that would become brochitis to where I'm hacking up lung butter for days, even weeks, to even be able to breathe right or sleep. COVID? Just an annoying sinus infection that lasted like 10 days.

[Coola Yagami]

I've had way, way worse flus than COVID. It's not even close. Flus that would become brochitis to where I'm hacking up lung butter for days, even weeks, to even be able to breathe right or sleep. COVID? Just an annoying sinus infection that lasted like 10 days.

And yet I've become a pariah for not taking the vaccine lol


But c'mon, even the most brainwashed of the brainwashed has to stop and ask themselves, what exactly is in this 'vaccine' and why are they forcing everyone to take it? Cause now it sounds like 'well if they won't take the vaccine for CoVid or its variants.... LET'S SEE HOW THEY LIKE SUPER COVID!!!' like really? what's the obsession? What IS in this thing? Why won't they stop?

[oldmanwinters]

Ok, peeps, PLEASE drop the faked death/survival conspiracy as regards Hamlin specifically, regardless of any broader concerns about vaccines and government hypocrisy:
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/35547657

[Coola Yagami]

Ok, peeps, PLEASE drop the faked death/survival conspiracy as regards Hamlin specifically, regardless of any broader concerns about vaccines and government hypocrisy:
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/35547657

Glad to see the kid pulled through.

[ChosenOne]

Ok, peeps, PLEASE drop the faked death/survival conspiracy as regards Hamlin specifically, regardless of any broader concerns about vaccines and government hypocrisy:
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/35547657

But he did survive, though...? Didn't he die, like, in full view of the world? Wasn't his cause of death even discussed on the news? The hell... I'm really confused about this whole thing. Honest.

[Vegita-San]

then why the odd appearance on sunday night football?

something still isn't adding up. his family did not look happy.

Someone else posted a rather intersting theory. NFL Ratings. let furor build up, EVERYONE watches the superbowl to see what'll happen.
Dick move if that turns out too be the case....have a feeling that would backfire too.

[oldmanwinters]

The only options left for the ardent conspiratorialists are: deep fake video or that Hamlin knew he would die before the Jan 2 Monday Night Football match and recorded the video beforehand.

Perhaps one could go all the way and assume that every NFL player has done the same before every game so that they can contribute a plausible cover story for the vaccine, the government, the NFL, the Illuminati, the alien grey ufos, and Elvis.

[ChosenOne]

Look, did he or did he not die? That's all I want to know.

[Vegita-San]

Look, did he or did he not die? That's all I want to know.

and the weird sunday appearance just amps it up.

Where is the bills coach? why has he done no interviews or press?
radio silent from him
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[Coola Yagami]

I thought he 'died' on live TV and was resuscitated later? You know, like when your heart stops and they jumpstart you but during that time before they jumpstart you you're technically dead?

[oldmanwinters]

I thought he 'died' on live TV and was resuscitated later? You know, like when your heart stops and they jumpstart you but during that time before they jumpstart you you're technically dead?

I wish folks would stop speaking of it that way. There’s a big difference between being “mostly dead” and “all dead.”



Where is the bills coach? why has he done no interviews or press?
radio silent from him
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https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/damar-hamlin-now-at-buffalo-bills-facility-almost-daily-sean-mcdermott-says/article_bee6db3c-974d-11ed-a074-f332fa4601ca.html

See 9:45 mark of video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-KZ_UBliCw

[Vegita-San]

that was after the loss last week.

i'm sorry, but things still just are not adding up.

Looking into more articles, supposedly damar has been visiting the team locker regularly. yet ZERO press?

come on, man.

[Vegita-San]

zero snow, sign clearly visible. ..

https://scontent.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/327926156_905151314260620_9039503159490746232_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=pnLxqf6bz34AX_RZaRx&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-5.fna&oh=00_AfCXumq1ntixgtTbL9g4xKwVH83jG6y9G33OuRFxVbO-Cg&oe=63DAFF9F

[Dpooly84]

Y'all weird for real

[ChosenOne]

I wish folks would stop speaking of it that way. There’s a big difference between being “mostly dead” and “all dead.”

I could actually hear this in Mel Brooks and Steven Weber's voices.

[TurtleManiac]

Whatever the situation is, the media doesn’t seem too interested in this story anymore. They put out a pre-recorded short video of him talking to the camera with lots of cuts, to show that he is ok. And that’s that. Any more mainstream media coverage on this story will get more people questioning the vaccine, and the NFL and pretty much all those media companies are sponsored by Pfizer, so can’t have that.

It seems the media is now more focused on the release of the Pelosi bodycam footage, and the release of the Tyre Nichols bodycam footage, but not much focus while Pfizer put out a statement at 8PM on Friday in response to the Project Veritas video, first denying but then basically admitting that they were doing “gain of function” to sell more vaccines.

4 NFL players within one month suffering cardiac arrest:

Uche Nwaneri (38) deceased
Damar Hamlin (24) recovering
Chris “Swaggy” Baker (35) recovering
Jesse Lemonier (25) deceased

[Coola Yagami]

Whatever the situation is, the media doesn’t seem too interested in this story anymore. They put out a pre-recorded short video of him talking to the camera with lots of cuts, to show that he is ok. And that’s that. Any more mainstream media coverage on this story will get more people questioning the vaccine, and the NFL and pretty much all those media companies are sponsored by Pfizer, so can’t have that.

It seems the media is now more focused on the release of the Pelosi bodycam footage, and the release of the Tyre Nichols bodycam footage, but not much focus while Pfizer put out a statement at 8PM on Friday in response to the Project Veritas video, first denying but then basically admitting that they were doing “gain of function” to sell more vaccines.

4 NFL players within one month suffering cardiac arrest:

Uche Nwaneri (38) deceased
Damar Hamlin (24) recovering
Chris “Swaggy” Baker (35) recovering
Jesse Lemonier (25) deceased

Sounds par for the course on how the 'vaccine' was pretty much treated since day one. Nothing to see here and don't you dare question it. Just go on down and get your 10th jab today.

[Vegita-San]

so, lets say the conspiratorists are correct.

The NFL has to be sweating now. no one is buying their narrative. so, what do they do? Obviously, they can't clone him. if he mysteriously 'dies'...I wouldn't be surprised to see a rash of resignations from the bills in disgust... even if they can't talk due to threats and nda.

will he 'retire'? seems most plausible, but you'd think he'd still want to have a media presence for his charity, and people will still want to see hmi in front of camera's...

they seem stuck on this one if dead. AND, what if it happens AGAIN?

[TurtleManiac]

Sounds par for the course on how the 'vaccine' was pretty much treated since day one. Nothing to see here and don't you dare question it. Just go on down and get your 10th jab today.

Exactly true. More videos have surfaced of that Pfizer director where he admits that the vaccine is causing problems with women’s menstrual cycles and causing miscarriages.

https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1621363494888038400?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Youtube has apparently banned any videos by Project Veritas about the Pfizer director. They caught up to the Youtube director and asked him why. He has no response. Youtube is said to be CCP owned.

https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1621564110906220544?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I decided early on that the vaccine rollout seemed sketchy and decided not to participate. And this was early on when all the info that’s coming out now was censored. Knowing what we know now, that the vaccine potential side effects include heart problems, who in their right mind would still trust these mad scientists and continue getting vaccines/boosters?!

The media seems to have people convinced that covid itself is causing cardiac arrest, so they’ve covered their tracks.

[ChosenOne]

Pfizer is between a rock and a hard place. Either they admit the jab doesn't work against the virus or they admit it causes potentially lethal side effects. Both are true, of course, which is why I for one am losing zero sleep over their dilemma.

[Coola Yagami]

The woke left is too far gone to reason with at this point. With everything we know, they still want to cancel that Shazam actor for pretty much agreeing that Pfizer is dangerous. The overall sentiment with them is 'ok, Pfizer is dangerous.... but he better not be talking about the vaccine!!!'

It's like they're almost there, but still so far from opening their eyes.

[TurtleManiac]

They’ll never admit it. It’s either denial, or their paycheck depends on it. Pretty much everything on TV says “brought to you by Pfizer”.

Did y’all see this MSNBC reporter who claims the common cold gave her myocarditis and all sorts of heart problems?

https://mobile.twitter.com/healthbyjames/status/1620404806312656896

But here’s the kicker, she’s fully vaccinated… is this kinda heart problems from common cold happening to un-vaccinated?

And they continue to push the vaccines and boosters so that if you get covid, it “won’t be so bad”. Meanwhile they keep saying things like common cold, covid, climate change, and eggs are causing heart problems, and now they are working on a MRNA vaccine for post heart attack victims that is injected directly into the heart. Crazy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11627695/amp/Moderna-begins-trialing-mRNA-shot-injected-directly-HEART.html

[Vegita-San]

So, does anyone else STILL think that there is not sometihng odd about this?

only two videos, mostly proved as deep faked by now (check out the one that pointed out the dissapearing dreadlocks and the head that is not in unision with the hair).....and still has not been seen in person.

this should be a positive press story if the guy is really this well recovered. but, nothing. and everything the nfl tries just makes people question it further.

they could EASILY debunk this by having him do the coin toss at the superbowl.odds are, they won't because they can't.

[oldmanwinters]

So, does anyone else STILL think that there is not sometihng odd about this?

only two videos, mostly proved as deep faked by now (check out the one that pointed out the dissapearing dreadlocks and the head that is not in unision with the hair).....and still has not been seen in person.

this should be a positive press story if the guy is really this well recovered. but, nothing. and everything the nfl tries just makes people question it further.

they could EASILY debunk this by having him do the coin toss at the superbowl.odds are, they won't because they can't.

Bro, I don’t think anything is gonna satisfy your skepticism on this so I just can’t even try anymore. If you want to go on thinking Hamlin died on January 2 and the whole world went to unprecedented lengths to cover up for a football player most folks would never have even recognized until he got hurt… then you be you, I guess.

[Coola Yagami]

I'd say check the videos, especially the one with the weird disappearing dreadlocks and whatnot before being so sure. That can't just be overlooked.

[Vegita-San]

I didn't even notice the dreadlocks until someone pointed it out. I was focused on the odd lighting on the left side of his face and nthe odd facial ticks.

[IMJ]

and the whole world went to unprecedented lengths to cover up for a football player most folks would never have even recognized until he got hurt… then you be you, I guess.

This. I mean again.... Read it again, point-by-point if that's what it takes to digest it:

the whole world

went to unprecedented lengths to cover up for a football player

most folks would never have even recognized until he got hurt

Sometimes a solid sentence encapsulates a lot of undeniable info. This is what I commonly strive for and here Oldman has basically encapsulated it.

[Vegita-San]

why would the whole world cover up for this guy? especially if no one ever heard of him until he collapsed?

Players get injured all the time in the NFL. we've NEVER Seen an ambulance brought on the field. We've never seen players cry like the guy died. We've never seen coaches defy t he NFL, who wanted them to get back too playing after a 10 minute break. We've never seen them cancel a game for an injury related hit.

The fact is, he died on that field. what's debatable is, how long did he live after, or is he still alive?

and everything the nfl has done too prove otherwise (only those spouting 'god has plans for you! seem to believe it out right)....just raises more questions.

Hospital photo
- How come his fingers are melted on his left hand?
- How come the lighting on his left arm looks off?
- why are no monitors that he is supposedly hooked up too are turned on?
- where are his legs in that hospital bed?

NFL game outing
- why did his mother look so un happy?
- why did his little relative look so zoned out?
- where was his father? (if not doubling for himin that hoodie?)
- throws up questionable signs instead of heart signs

Video releases
- No hands walking in
- No tats on one arm.
-hair dissapears and re appears in between edits.
- top of forehead and back of hair are out of synch and don't mesh up.
- left side of face looks oddly lit with lack of hair.


-doesn't thank anyone for donating nine million to his charity. doesn't do a live press conference. lots of other things seem to pop up in the meantime, hoping that it will distract from t he NFL (chinese spy balloon could be easy for the FBI to setup)..but the latter is even further out into conspiracy territory.

all of the stuff that we can veryify with eyeballs just does not add up. But, considering the NFL is big into gambling (lots of money, lots of debt) and big into pfizer sponsorship (who seems to be behind lots of sponsors lately)....money talks. people do horrible things for it....

[Autbot_Benz]

why would the whole world cover up for this guy? especially if no one ever heard of him until he collapsed?

Players get injured all the time in the NFL. we've NEVER Seen an ambulance brought on the field. We've never seen players cry like the guy died. We've never seen coaches defy t he NFL, who wanted them to get back too playing after a 10 minute break. We've never seen them cancel a game for an injury related hit.

The fact is, he died on that field. what's debatable is, how long did he live after, or is he still alive?

and everything the nfl has done too prove otherwise (only those spouting 'god has plans for you! seem to believe it out right)....just raises more questions.

Hospital photo
- How come his fingers are melted on his left hand?
- How come the lighting on his left arm looks off?
- why are no monitors that he is supposedly hooked up too are turned on?
- where are his legs in that hospital bed?

NFL game outing
- why did his mother look so un happy?
- why did his little relative look so zoned out?
- where was his father? (if not doubling for himin that hoodie?)
- throws up questionable signs instead of heart signs

Video releases
- No hands walking in
- No tats on one arm.
-hair dissapears and re appears in between edits.
- top of forehead and back of hair are out of synch and don't mesh up.
- left side of face looks oddly lit with lack of hair.


-doesn't thank anyone for donating nine million to his charity. doesn't do a live press conference. lots of other things seem to pop up in the meantime, hoping that it will distract from t he NFL (chinese spy balloon could be easy for the FBI to setup)..but the latter is even further out into conspiracy territory.

all of the stuff that we can veryify with eyeballs just does not add up. But, considering the NFL is big into gambling (lots of money, lots of debt) and big into pfizer sponsorship (who seems to be behind lots of sponsors lately)....money talks. people do horrible things for it....

How does this affect your life at all?

https://i.imgur.com/8TXWmFQ.gif

[Coola Yagami]

How does this affect your life at all?

https://i.imgur.com/8TXWmFQ.gif

I mean.... they're still pushing Pfizer aren't they? And it wasn't that long ago people were getting fired over not taking it right? So it is affecting people's lives.

[TurtleManiac]

Probably still recovering from the climate change injury. Hopefully puts out another video soon to show that he’s ok. Crazy how it happened on live TV though, curious how many similar incidents have happened to average civilians that we just never hear about.

One thing for sure the media seems to run cover for Pfizer while at the same time advertising it to the world, as seen at the Grammys 2 nights ago, a satanic musical performance “sponsored by Pfizer”, but zero media coverage on the Pfizer scandal exposed by Project Veritas. Pfizer is aware of the videos and put out a statement for their employees to be on alert:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1622705879362555906

[Cowabung-Gal]

One thing for sure the media seems to run cover for Pfizer while at the same time advertising it to the world, as seen at the Grammys 2 nights ago, a satanic musical performance “sponsored by Pfizer”, but zero media coverage on the Pfizer scandal exposed by Project Veritas.

Ok, so…Hollywood really is run by child-eating satanists? :ohwell:

If anything, this only proved that QAnon is not totally wrong. :lol:

0xGhnpSs13k

[Coola Yagami]

Little by little the masks come off, and by the time they do there won't be anything we can do about it because it would be accepted by the general public.

[Andrew NDB]

Little by little the masks come off, and by the time they do there won't be anything we can do about it because it would be accepted by the general public.

Be scared into saying nothing about it so you'll just let it be and let it all flourish and slowly normalized. Trained. Until this or the last generation just dies off eventually and this isn't a problem for them anymore. Is the general idea.

This Damar thing, though? I don't know. My gut is that it probably IS related to the vaccine, but not in the way that's being insinuated. i.e., an overabundance of caution is insulating him and this story from scrutiny because he probably did take the vaccine. Now, I'd assume they don't know if it was the cause for sure, but it could be, or at least a lot of loud voices could proclaim that it was, and they don't want that. That's kind of where my head is at, at the moment.

[ChosenOne]

I'm still baffled by this whole thing on a fundamental level. Every piece of news from that day said he died. Now everyone's acting like he didn't die, is that it? Ergo... Either someone is lying now or the media made fools of themselves for rushing to report a death. Does that about cover it, or am I just confused?

[oldmanwinters]

Every piece of news from that day said he died. Now everyone's acting like he didn't die, is that it?

Please link to any media story that reported him dead, meaning DEAD, not "heart stopped but revived" i.e. "clinically dead (https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/what-is-the-difference-between-clinically-and-legally/)." No medical professionals call "time of death" due to the simple phenomenon of cardiac arrest or temporary absence of breath or a heartbeat. You are declared legally dead when your heartbeat cannot be resuscitated.

[ChosenOne]

Please link to any media story that reported him dead, meaning DEAD, not "heart stopped but revived" i.e. "clinically dead (https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/what-is-the-difference-between-clinically-and-legally/)." No medical professionals call "time of death" due to the simple phenomenon of cardiac arrest or temporary absence of breath or a heartbeat. You are declared legally dead when your heartbeat cannot be resuscitated.

Don't have any links, I'm just telling you what I watched and heard on a number of news outlets here in Portugal, including CNN, complete with footage of his collapse. Please don't think I'm trying to back any claim of any kind (yet), I'm just trying to figure out what the heck is real or isn't about this whole thing because, like I said, I'm woefully confused.

[TurtleManiac]

Ok, so…Hollywood really is run by child-eating satanists? :ohwell:

If anything, this only proved that QAnon is not totally wrong. :lol:

0xGhnpSs13k

Yep, that’s the one. I mean, obviously Hollywood has a big influence on society. Heard that some of these dancers were transgenders or something, and then the very next day a mob of transgenders stormed the Capitol in Oklahoma.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1622885158553546753?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I’m surprised Oklahoma has any tolerance for this kind of activity after the Oklahoma City Bombing. I remember it well cause I was collecting Bandai MegaMan figures at the time and I could never find a BombMan figure as it was banned and pulled from store shelves after the Oklahoma City bombing. It wasn’t until years later with the magic of Ebay, I finally got my BombMan figure.

This is a bit concerning, US enemies are watching all this what’s happening.

[Vegita-San]

didn't think there where that many too form a mob.
disease must be spreading.

[IMJ]

Ok, so…Hollywood really is run by child-eating satanists? :ohwell:

If anything, this only proved that QAnon is not totally wrong. :lol:

0xGhnpSs13k

This isn't new news. People just don't pay attention. There are a ton of videos out there compiling years of paganistic and satanic worship via performances by the entertainers-elite.

I mean... to some extent anyone who does 15 minutes of research and this would become almost undeniable. The problem is that there are people who label any theory as "conspiracy" and their personal operating heuristic has become "conspiracy bad and conspiracy against my political alignment automatic disregard".

But the truth is that if you can get past some of the deep, deep conspiracy stuff in the variety of YouTube videos out there, then you'd find on your own that Hollywood has been this way for decades if not forever.

[oldmanwinters]

Hamlin made a public appearance today at the Superbowl site to receive an award and gave a brief speech:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35617343/bills-damar-hamlin-makes-appearance-receive-nflpa-award

https://twitter.com/JoriEpstein/status/1623416239875035136

[Vegita-San]

yes, I saw this.

but, if it wasn't for all the other oddness, I'd be more likely too believe this one...say case closed, and move on.

But the other stuff just doesn't add up.
- players cried like he died.
- odd nfl stunt
-two clearly deep faked videos that didn't fool anyone.

and now a week or so later this odd little award acceptance. still no real sit down interview.

I find the whole thing fascinating either way. but my gut still tells me something will happen in the next few weeks after the superbowl and he'll either decide too 'retire' or have a relapse.

[oldmanwinters]

NFLPA medical director "guarantees" Hamlin will play football again:
https://twitter.com/NYUDocs/status/1623419425129897984

https://sports.yahoo.com/nflpa-medical-director-guarantees-damar-hamlin-will-play-professional-football-again-003053184.html?.tsrc=364

[oldmanwinters]

4GOtheU-PfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GOtheU-PfA

2wZANUq9Iyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wZANUq9Iyk

If anybody needs a new conspiracy theory about the very much alive Hamlin, maybe you can speculate about the bizarre jacket he wore and speculate about him selling his soul to the Devil or something.

[Vegita-San]

I couldn't even make out what the hell it was?

Did see one video where some nut claimed it was a 'masonic ritual' on the field that day...whatever that is suposed too entail. but, you are talking to an athiest here...so don't buy into the god conspiracy :)

[Vegita-San]

that being said, looking at the replies... seems we are right back too the populace thinking that it's a body double. pointing things out like the 'dead eyed stares' of the players looking at him on stage at the awards ceremony...too the lukewarm reception the crowd gave him last night.

[TurtleManiac]

There was a similar incident, a Canadian news reporter had suffered a stroke on live TV, then the next day her Twitter went private as she put out a statement saying it was not vaccine related. She’s posted some pics since then and Tweets, and some videos of her talking behind the camera but you don’t actually see her. She hasn’t been on live TV news since that day. Where’s Jessica Robb?

https://mobile.twitter.com/healthbyjames/status/1612467659295326212

[Icebot]

He has just been cleared to play football:

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/18/1170655547/damar-hamlin-cleared-football-activity

[ChosenOne]

He has just been cleared to play football:

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/18/1170655547/damar-hamlin-cleared-football-activity

What if he bites someone during the game? Won't the virus spread?

/s

[oldmanwinters]

He has just been cleared to play football:

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/18/1170655547/damar-hamlin-cleared-football-activity

Personally, I think he should call it a career and explore his non-competitive-impact options.

[TurtleManiac]

I wonder if he would still get the booster after all that he went thru. In somewhat related news another NFL player, Chris Smith, has passed away at age 31 earlier this week, cause of death unknown.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/sport/nfl-defensive-end-chris-smith-dies-spt-intl/index.html