View Full Version : Should we get "white Baxter Stockman" back as compensation for black April?
CyberCubed
03-10-2023, 11:46 AM
It's time for the return of white Baxter:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/1/19/Baxter_Stockman_1987.jpg
In all seriousness I always liked Baxter's human design in the original cartoon. Just feels kinda unique to me now that Baxter is always black.
Autbot_Benz
03-10-2023, 11:57 AM
https://i.imgur.com/yU20Zoh.gif
IndigoErth
03-10-2023, 12:09 PM
Compensation?
Fair to dislike what some version does with a character...but no one needs compensating for the choices of a cartoon.
CyberCubed
03-10-2023, 12:16 PM
Compensation?
Fair to dislike what some version does with a character...but no one needs compensating for the choices of a cartoon.
It's proper representation. You take away one of the core white characters of the franchise (April, the Turtles main human friend), then there should be no problem using white Baxter Stockman again someday.
I mean in the Nick 2012 cartoon Rocksteady was a Russian general. They already changed Rocksteady's race from just a normal white guy from New York to a Russian.
Monty Mole
03-10-2023, 12:26 PM
Please stop being racist
IndigoErth
03-10-2023, 12:30 PM
And having one token female character much of the time has never been proper representation of the world either, but never wanted existing characters changed to compensate that, so not really moved by your argument, sorry. :tsad:
edit: For the record, I don't care if someone uses that Baxter again. But the idea of having to be paid back because they made April black is kinda cruddy.
neatoman
03-10-2023, 12:36 PM
You already got white Baxter "back" in the Power Rangers crossovers
I doubt a character played by the actor who portrayed Gus Fring is intended to be white, even if it's a cartoon.
We won't see another white version of Stockman in a Hollywood production because... You know... twitter...
I woulnd't really want to a white Baxter anyway, for the same basic reason I don't want to see another human-fly hybrid Baxter ever again.
TurtleManiac
03-10-2023, 12:42 PM
Probably not gonna happen. I think the only reason they made him white in the ‘87 cartoon is that Shredder and Baxter had a master/slave relationship and it would look racist if he was black.
Also don’t forget the Playmates Mutatin’ Bebop toy was a white guy with orange hair. Not sure why they did that.
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-10-2023, 12:54 PM
think the only reason they made him white in the ‘87 cartoon is that Shredder and Baxter had a master/slave relationship and it would look racist if he was black.
I think they wanted to make him a parody on Albert Einstein, the stereotypical image of a scientist. His Mirage counterpart hadn't appeared in many issues back in 1987, so it was not a big deal.
I mean in the Nick 2012 cartoon Rocksteady was a Russian general. They already changed Rocksteady's race from just a normal white guy from New York to a Russian.
Nickelodeon Rocksteady is still as white as his Fred Wolf counterpart. I just think Nickelodeon gave him a more (at least acording to me) interesting backstory.
oldmanwinters
03-10-2023, 01:01 PM
Cubed, man, you gotta let this go.
Toxin45
03-10-2023, 01:06 PM
Please bro no tell me this is a bait
CyberCubed
03-10-2023, 01:40 PM
I genuinely wouldn't mind a white Baxter Stockman again. I really liked how he looked like a blonde and more wimpy version of Doc Brown from Back to the Future.
Zulithe
03-10-2023, 01:55 PM
I really don't care what race he is. April is a main cast member so it tends to be more noteworthy, I don't find it very comparable.
The only way I'd bring back a white Baxter design would be to have Barney Stockman brought back as his half brother. But I'd just prefer to have Dr Quease instead.
Headcanon: 87 Baxter is actually black, he just suffers from vitiligo.
IndigoErth
03-10-2023, 04:33 PM
Headcanon: 87 Baxter is actually black, he just suffers from vitiligo.
Well THERE'S a perfectly reasonable pro-inclusion loophole that would make it tough for literally anyone to complain about. :tcool:
HotJuicyBurgers
03-10-2023, 04:46 PM
Man I missed this forum. Glad to be back regularly.
This is a shitpost if ever I saw one. And no, don’t give us “back” white Baxter.
AquaParade
03-10-2023, 04:54 PM
Man I missed this forum. Glad to be back regularly.
This is a shitpost if ever I saw one. And no, don’t give us “back” white Baxter.
Damn, a hot juicy burger sounds real good.
Give me black Mirage Baxter who turns into a robot, like in volume 2. That was strange.
CyberCubed
03-10-2023, 05:11 PM
I don't get it, if white people can become black people, why can't black people become white people? Michael Jackson did it, after all.
Jester
03-10-2023, 05:54 PM
Cubed, Cubed, Cubed... Bebop is white in this movie. It's okay.
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