View Full Version : God of War inspired Last Ronin Game in Development
RaphaelinSTL
03-23-2023, 10:15 AM
Breaking from Polygon today.
Beloved TMNT graphic novel The Last Ronin is becoming a video game
(https://www.polygon.com/23645176/tmnt-last-ronin-video-game-graphic-novel-ninja-turtles?fbclid=IwAR05W4YEZkafZM_2yZL7o1qKZCx7MgSaN C4NOsQkowdszWR3BpoLDoW0xcA)
https://i.postimg.cc/cH016ZYD/tlr-lee-0.webp
A new, very different style of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game is currently in development: an adaptation of The Last Ronin, the 2020 graphic novel that told a grim, futuristic story about the turtles.
Like the comic, The Last Ronin video game adaptation will be a darker, more mature take on the typically colorful Ninja Turtles, according to Doug Rosen, senior vice president for games and emerging media at Paramount Global, the rights holders for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. In an interview with Polygon last week, Rosen likened the upcoming third-person action role-playing game to Sony’s recent God of War titles and said it will be authentic to the story of The Last Ronin arc, which is set in a future where only one of the turtles has survived.
While other TMNT games, like last year’s Shredder’s Revenge, are typically about playing as all four turtles (and sometimes their allies Splinter, April O’Neil, and Casey Jones), The Last Ronin will be a primarily a single-character game. Though Rosen posited that other characters could be playable in flashback sequences, similar to how the comic series plays out, the primary action is said to center on the only surviving turtle.
Looks to be still in development and the "few years off from release" worries me a bit, but exciting news!
AquaParade
03-23-2023, 10:49 AM
lol holy crap. I told y'all TLR would be huge for the brand.
I got a surprising amount of blowback here which is why I'm tooting my horn.
Cowabung-Gal
03-23-2023, 10:53 AM
It was only a matter of time.
It just hope that Abby Anderson doesn’t appear and smash Michelangelo’s head in with a golf club.
RaphaelinSTL
03-23-2023, 10:54 AM
The "there are opportunities for multiple TMNT games aimed at both young and more mature age groups, and that Paramount can take “multiple approaches [to the franchise], and not dial back to make the game something it shouldn’t be” part of the interview in the article sounds very promising too.
AquaParade
03-23-2023, 10:54 AM
This is going to keep escalating. An animated adaption is already in the works, I guarantee. We may even get a premium series or movie at some point.
Allio
03-23-2023, 11:04 AM
My favorite part of the game was when Mikey said “it isn’t about the last ronin, it was about the last Ron-us”
CyberCubed
03-23-2023, 11:20 AM
This is going to keep escalating. An animated adaption is already in the works, I guarantee. We may even get a premium series or movie at some point.
It'll probably get a quick adaption like all the DC movies and the Batman vs TMNT movie.
AquaParade
03-23-2023, 11:36 AM
It'll probably get a quick adaption like all the DC movies and the Batman vs TMNT movie.
I expect something like that too, but it needs a bigger budget. Those recent DC movies look and sound cheap. Maybe a more premium series for Paramount+ or something can be worked out.
CyberCubed
03-23-2023, 11:55 AM
I expect something like that too, but it needs a bigger budget. Those recent DC movies look and sound cheap. Maybe a more premium series for Paramount+ or something can be worked out.
It'll be exactly like those, and the animated adaption probably won't be 1:1 with the comic but condense or change things, same as the Batman/TMNT crossover movie.
Just expect a straight to DVD/streaming movie adaption of it at most.
AquaParade
03-23-2023, 12:16 PM
It'll be exactly like those, and the animated adaption probably won't be 1:1 with the comic but condense or change things, same as the Batman/TMNT crossover movie.
Just expect a straight to DVD/streaming movie adaption of it at most.
It's a different studio so we really don't have a point of comparison in regards to budget or production.
Dpooly84
03-23-2023, 12:51 PM
I'm all in for this! Let's go
Andrew NDB
03-23-2023, 12:55 PM
Looks to be still in development and the "few years off from release" worries me a bit, but exciting news!
Might be cool. Seems like the kind of game that runs the risk of overpromising, will miss a few release dates, then run out of money and be dumped out without much fanfare but with bugs.
RaphaelinSTL
03-23-2023, 12:57 PM
Essentially most AAA titles then, haha.
CyberCubed
03-23-2023, 02:06 PM
This game won't be out for 3-4 years if it's a real AAA game and not some short thing. By then The Last Ronin comic will he a distant memory, I have no idea why they think interest in the comic will he around another 4 years from now.
AquaParade
03-23-2023, 02:19 PM
This game won't be out for 3-4 years if it's a real AAA game and not some short thing. By then The Last Ronin comic will he a distant memory, I have no idea why they think interest in the comic will he around another 4 years from now.
I don’t see the issue. The comic may still be around then, as it’s an ongoing universe now. They are looking at the hardcover as an “evergreen book” and you can’t blame them. It’s still selling incredibly well. Better than any other tmnt comic ever.
There is also the fact that it’ll still be a tmnt property, so it’s marketable even if TLR disappears tomorrow, which it won’t. But your comment is interesting.
Maybe they have even more planned for the universe than they are letting on.
Either way, this is a good route to take the video game because they are aiming it at older fans, which TLR is suited for.
Also, I get the feeling they haven’t chosen a developer yet and it’s hard to get too excited until we know. This feels like a way to drum up excitement and secure a partner.
CyberCubed
03-23-2023, 02:21 PM
I don’t see the issue. The comic may still be around then, as it’s an ongoing universe now. They are looking at the hardcover as an “evergreen book” and you can’t blame them. It’s still selling incredibly well. Better than any other tmnt comic ever.
There is also the fact that it’ll still be a tmnt property, so it’s marketable even if TLR disappears tomorrow, which it won’t. But your comment is interesting.
Maybe they have even more planned for the universe than they are letting on.
Either way, this is a good route to take the video game because they are aiming it at older fans, which TLR is suited for.
IDW as a whole might not even exist 4 years from now. Also I assume after the prequel comic ends that will be it for this universe. There's not much else they can do with it since all the Turtles are dead and further prequels would be absurd.
Andrew NDB
03-23-2023, 02:24 PM
IDW as a whole might not even exist 4 years from now. Also I assume after the prequel comic ends that will be it for this universe. There's not much else they can do with it since all the Turtles are dead and further prequels would be absurd.
I'd be positive the long-term goal is to eventually just focus on the new generation of TMNT it introduced.
shredder orokusaki
03-23-2023, 04:19 PM
I WILL KILL THE TURTLES! GRRRR
https://wccftech.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-last-ronin-game-mature-god-of-war/
IndigoErth
03-23-2023, 05:43 PM
Neat!! :D Not much of a gamer so unsure if I'll ever get the chance to try it out (unless its available via computer and I have an updated system by then), but will definitely check out people's game play videos. Good to see it reach broader attention, and maybe grab some further attention for TMNT, esp for more mature content, in the process.
AquaParade
03-23-2023, 06:46 PM
IDW as a whole might not even exist 4 years from now. Also I assume after the prequel comic ends that will be it for this universe. There's not much else they can do with it since all the Turtles are dead and further prequels would be absurd.
No, “TLR 2 “ has already been confirmed.
It’s the best selling book IDW has ever made. It’s not going away even if IDW collapses. The book is a best seller.
LeotheLateBloomer
03-23-2023, 09:03 PM
This is the best news I've heard since either the Batman crossover or The Last Ronin's existence! I hope they don't screw this up! *fingers crossed*
TheLabRat
03-23-2023, 09:15 PM
Honestly, I've no confidence in the writing of most modern AAA games.
Hope we never see some crap writing like TLOU2. Like "When Mikey was about to kill Hiroto, he suddenly recalled the past of his family, so he gave up killing Hiroto. Because revenge is hollow and bad."
Toxin45
03-23-2023, 09:34 PM
I mean last ronin is completed so they will adapt the series into a full game. Plus we have a prequel that is releasing now and an upcoming sequel series so if they get completed we can get them into games.
Andrew NDB
03-23-2023, 10:20 PM
Hope we never see some crap writing like TLOU2. Like "When Mikey was about to kill Hiroto, he suddenly recalled the past of his family, so he gave up killing Hiroto. Because revenge is hollow and bad."
Ehhh... TLOU2 is a bit different in that way. I don't like a lot of the choices or directions they went with things or the boxes they felt compelled to check but I can't deny that was quality writing the whole way. And Ellie wasn't raised to be a killer ninja from near birth.
RaphaelinSTL
03-23-2023, 10:28 PM
So would be the studio you would all trust to work and do actual justice on this game?
Aaronardo
03-23-2023, 10:45 PM
"there are opportunities for multiple TMNT games aimed at both young and more mature age groups, and that Paramount can take “multiple approaches [to the franchise], and not dial back to make the game something it shouldn’t be”
That caught my eye, too. This is amazing news. On a conceptual level, this is exactly what I hoped would happen. If done right, this could be something special.
So would be the studio you would all trust to work and do actual justice on this game?
Sloclap's Sifu from last year was basically a TLR game but as a human instead of a turtle. The combat itself was surprisingly challenging and fun. Them being an indie studio, I could see Paramount offering Sloclap this and I think they could handle it really well.
I know they bungled the last one and they seem to be distancing themselves from IP work now, but I'd be good with PlatinumGames taking another whack at it. Capcom would be a fairly respectable choice too, though they're a bigger studio. I doubt Paramount's going to go after higher-profile studios for a project like this, especially since working with a smaller studio paid so well with Shredder's Revenge. Not sure if I'd like to be wrong on this or not, given the state of AAA games.
CyberCubed
03-24-2023, 06:29 AM
No, “TLR 2 “ has already been confirmed.
It’s the best selling book IDW has ever made. It’s not going away even if IDW collapses. The book is a best seller.
If it's about those new set of Turtles, it's going to bomb fast. The Last Ronin isn't a series you can keep going on forever. It was meant to tell a simple story and then end (which is why Kevin/Peter conceived it as a one-off), and the prequel comic is already pushing it. Keeping this going is just IDW trying to make as much money off it as they can but it can only go so far.
RaphaelinSTL
03-24-2023, 08:20 AM
From what I'm seeing so far, the sales of the newest iteration of The Last Ronin have been super strong as well. Seems like this is a TMNT brand that's doing well as a whole.
HotJuicyBurgers
03-24-2023, 08:28 AM
Not sure how I missed this thread! Sorry about making the other one,
But yah I don’t want to get my hopes up TOO much for this but… when was the last time a Tmnt game was AAA? Snes era? Really hoping they get a good developer for this. In my brain I immediately thought it would be cool if insomniac could make it but… obviously not happening
AquaParade
03-24-2023, 09:08 AM
If it's about those new set of Turtles, it's going to bomb fast. The Last Ronin isn't a series you can keep going on forever. It was meant to tell a simple story and then end (which is why Kevin/Peter conceived it as a one-off), and the prequel comic is already pushing it. Keeping this going is just IDW trying to make as much money off it as they can but it can only go so far.
The prequel book has been selling very well. The sequel will sell even better, most likely. This seems to be a book that jumps around the timeline, so I don’t see any reason it needs to stop.
It’s sales are stronger than the ongoing, the original tmnt are still popping up in the book quite frequently, and Kevin is super passionate about it. I don’t see it going away anytime soon. Especially because the delays alone will drag it out another four years :P.
But again, even if the series ends, the hardcover will still be selling copies. It’s an evergreen book now. When people ask for TMNT recommendations, TLR will be constantly listed in the future. It’s pretty safe at this point.
I can't help but feel a game built on the Arkham Asylum platform might be more fitting than a God of War/Lords of Shadow style one.
grizzgolf
03-24-2023, 06:16 PM
I can’t wait!!!!
ProphetofGanja
03-24-2023, 07:06 PM
I can't help but feel a game built on the Arkham Asylum platform might be more fitting than a God of War/Lords of Shadow style one.
Right? I was scratching my head when I heard the God of War comparison too
Cowabung-Gal
03-24-2023, 08:51 PM
I’ll be listening to “Live and Learn” during the final battle between Michelangelo and Hiroto:
My-WSM-6QlE
Brings back good memories: my brother trying to beat the final boss 50 times on SA2, and then I beat it on my first try. :lol:
LeotheLateBloomer
03-27-2023, 04:46 AM
I can't help but feel a game built on the Arkham Asylum platform might be more fitting than a God of War/Lords of Shadow style one.
An Arkham style game is what I wanted for TMNT for the longest time. Still, the fact that this is a thing makes me excited. A triple-A TMNT game? Sign me up!
Filespit
03-27-2023, 10:17 AM
Incredibly exciting news! I've never played any of the older God of War games, but I've played some of the "reboot" game. It's a good game, no doubt, but kinda linear. I certainly hope the TLR game will be more of an open world that embraces the ninja/stealth-side of TMNT. Either way though, super stoked for this and hopefully we'll get a bit more information soon. I pray to the game gods that this ends up good!
AquaParade
03-27-2023, 12:22 PM
I wouldn't read too much into the GOW comment. It's probably just meant to convey that this is a AAA game, with high production budget and a focus on story/atmosphere.
This is pretty much the case for any modern AAA action/adventure game, whether that lean towards God of War, Elden Ring, Spider-Man, etc.
God of War being the best choice to get people's attention. I actually think the recent GoW game was a mess, but it's still quite the name to lob out there. Expectations will be high.
CyberCubed
03-27-2023, 01:27 PM
This game doesn't even have a developer, it's not happening for 3-4 years. See you when the Playstation 6 is out.
AquaParade
03-27-2023, 01:36 PM
I don't mind waiting but I can't get truly excited until we know who the developer is. You can't compare the game to God of War and then give it to some team that's primarily known for porting games or doing licensed titles or something. You need a big name developer.
That said, they chose the right choices for the two retro games they released last year, so it seems like they are paying attention to what works.
RaphaelinSTL
03-28-2023, 11:13 PM
That said, they chose the right choices for the two retro games they released last year, so it seems like they are paying attention to what works.
Exactly. That's how I'm looking at it as well, given how incredible 2022 was for TMNT and video games. You'd like to think they'd want to keep that momentum going and keep things positive ... but like you too, I'm hoping we hear something worthwhile about the right developer for the project.
I actually just got The Last Ronin book in the mail today and just wrapped up the first three chapters ... this is going to make a fantastic game if done right.
RaphaelinSTL
07-29-2023, 10:37 PM
New quote (https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/tmnt-the-last-ronin-video-game-kevin-eastman/) from Kevin Eastman regarding the game.
"Nickelodeon, who has always been a great partner and great friend to all the things in letting us do what we do, they really didn't wanna take The Last Ronin concept into full on mainstream, like a big live-action movie, something to compete with Mutant Mayhem (which is gonna be phenomenally awesome). They collectively came up with the idea of a video game because we could go all the way there. They could basically take it all the way into all things Ronin-verse. They've taken all the different drawings and moments... the stuff we've seen so far is goosebump city," said Eastman. "It's really phenomenal. They took stuff right out of the pages of the comic book."
Again, no release date and no clue who the developers working on the game are ... so definitely hope more news comes out.
CyberCubed
07-29-2023, 10:43 PM
I get the feeling this game is never going to see the light of day. Doing a big 3D action game is going to strike up comparisons with God of War, Assassin's Creed, Devil May Cry, Batman Arkham, Sony's Spiderman games, etc. I seriously cannot see a TMNT game from some unknown developer getting those kind of production values.
And this is not even a "main" TMNT game, but based on The Last Ronin where only an older Michelangelo will be playable.
Monty Mole
07-30-2023, 01:40 AM
In all honesty, do people want a triple A game based on TLR? It's a pretty short story. I'm not sure how they could make a 30-40 hour game out of that.
Cowabung-Gal
07-30-2023, 01:46 AM
In all honesty, do people want a triple A game based on TLR? It's a pretty short story. I'm not sure how they could make a 30-40 hour game out of that.
Maybe they’ll expand the storyline and add classic characters like Leatherhead or even Mondo Gecko. I can imagine Ronin-verse Gecko having wavy grey hair like Green Arrow in The Dark Knight Returns.
LeotheLateBloomer
07-30-2023, 10:12 AM
In all honesty, do people want a triple A game based on TLR? It's a pretty short story. I'm not sure how they could make a 30-40 hour game out of that.
I'm sure there are ways to work around it and sort of make it into it's own thing as well. It's kinda obvious they would have to differentiate it in some way from the original story.
I just hope Viacom doesn't put a restriction on what they can do. I rolled my eyes at what Eastman says about Nickelodeon being a good partner.:trolleye:
Wednesday's Serial
07-30-2023, 05:39 PM
you get most games don't have a ton of story and a ton of combat right?
Sumac
07-31-2023, 01:16 AM
In all honesty, do people want a triple A game based on TLR? It's a pretty short story. I'm not sure how they could make a 30-40 hour game out of that.
Yes, just for the sake of novelty and possibility of not-FW-based TMNT game being decent.
Is it wrong?
Andrew NDB
07-31-2023, 01:32 AM
Maybe they’ll expand the storyline and add classic characters like Leatherhead or even Mondo Gecko. I can imagine Ronin-verse Gecko having wavy grey hair like Green Arrow in The Dark Knight Returns.
Maybe Leatherhead. I think they still would like to make this as a pseudo Mirage thing.
The Deadman
07-31-2023, 04:31 AM
In all honesty, do people want a triple A game based on TLR? It's a pretty short story. I'm not sure how they could make a 30-40 hour game out of that.
You are aware they can turn short stories into full length adaptions, right? The game could be its own self aware thing in the universe.
Monty Mole
07-31-2023, 11:43 PM
You are aware they can turn short stories into full length adaptions, right? The game could be its own self aware thing in the universe.
As long as it's good, I'm sold.
RaphaelinSTL
08-01-2023, 08:28 PM
Truthfully, this thing is probably going to live and die by its developer ... and even then, we still need to see it in action.
Andrew NDB
08-11-2023, 03:18 PM
Like I said before, "Might be cool. Seems like the kind of game that runs the risk of overpromising, will miss a few release dates, then run out of money and be dumped out without much fanfare but with bugs." And it's a conundrum. They always set out to achieve the moon but then they run out of money and time so they have to rush out something awkward and broken just to even hope to get back even some of the money they put into it. It looks like this happened with Mutants in Manhattan and it happened with Out of the Shadows (the game, not the movie). Now, what's the solution? Aim for very small and just focus on polishing it up the best they can? idk...
RaphaelinSTL
08-11-2023, 07:13 PM
Dang it, now there's two threads going. Well here's the teaser in the original thread, haha.
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Interesting to note that there's no Switch version. What has me a little concerned is the quality of stuff from the developer, Black Forest Games (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Forest_Games).
That said, I'm sure they know they can't **** this up ... so the pressure is on.
Time to upgrade that regardless of this game.
As a staunch Nintendo person, I am planning to buy an Xbox in the next few months. It is time.
I'm with you. I've been debating on what XBOX Series to get ... I'm thinking of dipping into the X for the storage and the ability to watch my DVDs in our living room, but I hardly ever do watch my DVDs ... so I might just settle for the Series S black edition that's coming out.
Braeden99
08-12-2023, 03:37 AM
Dang it, now there's two threads going. Well here's the teaser in the original thread, haha.
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Interesting to note that there's no Switch version. What has me a little concerned is the quality of stuff from the developer, Black Forest Games (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Forest_Games).
That said, I'm sure they know they can't **** this up ... so the pressure is on.
Hey, small miracles can happen. Look at Tim Miller, the director of the first Deadpool movie. He had almost nothing under his belt before doing Deadpool, and it turned out great!
Andrew NDB
08-12-2023, 03:46 AM
Hey, small miracles can happen. Look at Tim Miller, the director of the first Deadpool movie. He had almost nothing under his belt before doing Deadpool, and it turned out great!
Then he did Terminator: Woke Fart.
*crickets*
LeotheLateBloomer
08-12-2023, 08:34 AM
I've been debating on what XBOX Series to get ... I'm thinking of dipping into the X for the storage and the ability to watch my DVDs in our living room, but I hardly ever do watch my DVDs ... so I might just settle for the Series S black edition that's coming out.
There's also the PS5 which is good if you want to play the new Spider-Man.
RaphaelinSTL
08-12-2023, 11:51 AM
There's also the PS5 which is good if you want to play the new Spider-Man.
True, and we have a PS4 already so I'm kind of in that ecosystem ... but it's just my YouTube machine in my office now. I don't like to play any of the PS4 games I have and I haven't gotten anything on there outside of Stray.
I liked that Spider-Man game, but once I beat the story it was enough for me to be like "I get it" and didn't go back into it more. Black-Suited Spider-Man and Venom sounds enticing, but I'm not as drawn to it as a lot of other people. I think it's that Wolverine game they teased a long time ago that would get me to want to jump into the PS5 world.
But honestly, it's Game Pass that makes me want to try XBOX these days. Being able to jump in and try whatever makes me feel less bad about potentially spending the money and never jumping back into games. I think I'll always still buy games I want physically or digitally on Switch because my love of Nintendo has drastically increased since getting a Switch (and whatever the Switch 2 will be) but ya.
RaphaelinSTL
08-12-2023, 04:46 PM
Not much of anything from their catalog inspires confidence for me.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Forest_Games
This is precisely why the promise of a AAA TMNT game immediately gave me pause. AAA licensed based games are not often good.
Well, and to be honest ... THQ doesn't really release AAA games, they're more AA at best, and given the developer's track record of previous games, I'm a bit more cautious on how this could end up given it does feel like a smaller team and THQ not really having a giant budget.
This made me wonder though ... who has the license now for TMNT games? Since the Activision deal, have they just dropped someone being able to have a strangle hold on the license and give it to teams who have the best ideas?
LeotheLateBloomer
08-12-2023, 05:45 PM
But honestly, it's Game Pass that makes me want to try XBOX these days. Being able to jump in and try whatever makes me feel less bad about potentially spending the money and never jumping back into games. I think I'll always still buy games I want physically or digitally on Switch because my love of Nintendo has drastically increased since getting a Switch (and whatever the Switch 2 will be) but ya.
I decided to buy an Xbox One S around the time the new Series consoles came out but it was only because I wanted Rare Replay lol.:tlol: But once I learned more about what Game Pass is about, the more intrigued I was. If you're trying to save money, an Xbox One would be the cheaper route as the system still has the service on it. Keep in mind that Game Pass is also on PC, laptops, mobile and a few other devices. I'm personally not a big Xbox guy but I'm perfectly fine with my One S. Just suggesting cheaper options for you if you're mostly interested in GP. :)
I'm the same with the Switch. No lie, I think I own nearly every first-party game on the system and A LOT of third-party games. Especially Sonic but I prefer to play Sonic on Nintendo consoles.:ohwell:
RaphaelinSTL
08-12-2023, 06:58 PM
I decided to buy an Xbox One S around the time the new Series consoles came out but it was only because I wanted Rare Replay lol.:tlol: But once I learned more about what Game Pass is about, the more intrigued I was. If you're trying to save money, an Xbox One would be the cheaper route as the system still has the service on it. Keep in mind that Game Pass is also on PC, laptops, mobile and a few other devices. I'm personally not a big Xbox guy but I'm perfectly fine with my One S. Just suggesting cheaper options for you if you're mostly interested in GP. :)
I'm the same with the Switch. No lie, I think I own nearly every first-party game on the system and A LOT of third-party games. Especially Sonic but I prefer to play Sonic on Nintendo consoles.:ohwell:
Hey thanks for help!
DevilSpooky
08-12-2023, 07:46 PM
Black Forest Games made the fantastic Destroy All Humans remakes, a quasi-open world like those two can do wonders for the ip, i can just imagine hoping from rooftop to rooftop on a similar engine.
And if they also release a similar collector's edition to the 2 DAH remakes i'll loose my sh*t.
Bottom line is, i'm optimistic and have full confidence on BFG and THQ, they've been doing wonders for dormant IPs latelly, and BFG in particular are really passionate about the projects they've handled and have been more in tune with the fanbases that came with them, and that's at least more than you can say about Paramount and Nickelodeon.
Braeden99
08-13-2023, 04:26 AM
Then he did Terminator: Woke Fart.
*crickets*
I actually never saw that movie, was it that bad?
Andrew NDB
08-13-2023, 04:38 AM
I actually never saw that movie, was it that bad?
Yes. Sadly. They brought Linda Hamilton out of mothballs for an angry affair designed to "fix" problematic aspects of Terminator lore (white savior, woman destined to only bear said savior, and so on) while taking the opportunity to attack current political situations (ICE bad, border patrol bad). While adding really nothing new to the pot and, in fact, voiding what little we still cared about within the franchise.
It's just so strange. I can understand why Salvation failed on a basic script level, as in they needed to work on more drafts and maybe they would have had something. Fundamentally, Genisys and Dark Fate were just so bizarrely opposite of what fans would actually want while making their whole media push be about "THIS ONE is the TRUE sequel to Terminator 2!" Because both sh** all over it. SkyNET? Never mattered. There's this other thing (Genisys in Genisys, Legion in Dark Fate), and that whole future timeline is gone anyway.
RaphaelinSTL
08-13-2023, 09:41 AM
Black Forest Games made the fantastic Destroy All Humans remakes, a quasi-open world like those two can do wonders for the ip, i can just imagine hoping from rooftop to rooftop on a similar engine.
And if they also release a similar collector's edition to the 2 DAH remakes i'll loose my sh*t.
Bottom line is, i'm optimistic and have full confidence on BFG and THQ, they've been doing wonders for dormant IPs latelly, and BFG in particular are really passionate about the projects they've handled and have been more in tune with the fanbases that came with them, and that's at least more than you can say about Paramount and Nickelodeon.
True, but my only concern was that it was a remake that they polished up. Not something that they built from the ground up. If they can take what they learned from those and apply it to something with a lot of substance, good on them. But even then, those Destroy All Humans remakes got pretty meddling reviews.
Sumac
08-13-2023, 01:06 PM
I actually never saw that movie, was it that bad?
Incredibly boring and with no fresh ideas of its own. Basically everything in this movie was regurgitated from previous five movies and TV series. But worse. What little original ideas it brought to the table - were just bad.
Attempts to pander to [current politics] didn't help. They did not ruined the movie, but they were bizarrely out of place (especially, if you care about Terminator canon). Also, plotholes galore, dumb sequel hooks galore, bad acting galore.
There's this other thing (Genisys in Genisys, Legion in Dark Fate), and that whole future timeline is gone anyway.
Genisys was a program designed by Skynet to take over machines. Through the whole movie pretty much everyone called Skynet a "Skynet".
It is a nitpick, but still.
Wednesday's Serial
08-14-2023, 06:37 PM
This game won't be out for 3-4 years if it's a real AAA game and not some short thing. By then The Last Ronin comic will he a distant memory, I have no idea why they think interest in the comic will he around another 4 years from now.
Hey the Watchmen game(s) came out decades later, and look how those turned out. :tlol:
Cowabung-Gal
08-14-2023, 11:31 PM
I wonder if this game will also adapt the Lost Years series. Imagine all the mutants Mikey would face in the gladiator games, maybe some old recognizable faces like Antrax or Groundchuck:
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Filespit
08-15-2023, 02:19 AM
I have big hopes for this, but low expectations. The dream is obviously a game on the same level as the Batman Arkham or Spider-Man games, but that is most probably not gonna be the case once this game is out, which is a bummer.
Either way, I dream of a big game. A fully explorable, futuristic New York City, playable flashback scenes where you play as all four brothers, independent skill trees for all weapons that Mikey carries (katana, sai, bo, nunchuku, tonfa), and most importantly tons of character skins/costumes!
Sumac
08-15-2023, 11:45 AM
Either way, I dream of a big game. A fully explorable, futuristic New York City, playable flashback scenes where you play as all four brothers, independent skill trees for all weapons that Mikey carries (katana, sai, bo, nunchuku, tonfa), and most importantly tons of character skins/costumes!
You'll get Assassins' Creed with radio towers and dumb side quests and YOU. WILL. BE . HAPPY!!
LeotheLateBloomer
08-15-2023, 01:26 PM
I have big hopes for this, but low expectations. The dream is obviously a game on the same level as the Batman Arkham or Spider-Man games, but that is most probably not gonna be the case once this game is out, which is a bummer.
Either way, I dream of a big game. A fully explorable, futuristic New York City, playable flashback scenes where you play as all four brothers, independent skill trees for all weapons that Mikey carries (katana, sai, bo, nunchuku, tonfa), and most importantly tons of character skins/costumes!
Yeah but if this game does well maybe we'll get that, one day. Baby steps...
Wednesday's Serial
08-17-2023, 12:07 PM
I think it would be cooler to finally get a game where it's more mainline, but each of the Turtles is really unique but usable for any situation but focus on different strategies. Like Leo would have you sneak through a level, Raph would be head-on, Mikey would use more environmental and acrobatic solutions, and Donny would take advantage of more tech in the level.
Like different builds in Deus Ex but achievable for different runs.
It would take advantage of what's there with TMNT and make for a really engaging game.
Cowabung-Gal
09-02-2023, 01:00 AM
The owner of our local comic store told me an interesting rumor:
Wayne Grayson might voice the Ronin/Mikey in this game.
Considering he has talked to Grayson and even convinced him to take part in our town’s 40th TMNT anniversary event, I have reason to believe that this rumor could be true.
Braeden99
09-02-2023, 01:20 AM
The owner of our local comic store told me an interesting rumor:
Wayne Grayson might voice the Ronin/Mikey in this game.
Considering he has talked to Grayson and even convinced him to take part in our town’s 40th TMNT anniversary event, I have reason to believe that this rumor could be true.
If that's true, then I'm definitely getting this game no matter what.
LeotheLateBloomer
09-02-2023, 02:01 AM
The owner of our local comic store told me an interesting rumor:
Wayne Grayson might voice the Ronin/Mikey in this game.
Considering he has talked to Grayson and even convinced him to take part in our town’s 40th TMNT anniversary event, I have reason to believe that this rumor could be true.
I actually did read about that a while back. It might've been on Grayson's Instagram page, if not somewhere else. Hope it's true and if so, hopefully voice actors for the other three Turtles from the 2k3 series reprise their roles...assuming the others get a short flashback scene or so.
Drose18
09-02-2023, 11:41 AM
That’s incredible news. Hoping It happens.
Powder
09-02-2023, 09:24 PM
Wayne has been campaigning himself to be the voice, but that's all, as far as I am aware.
I don't think that making videos such as "why I should be XYZ" is how voice actors are typically cast.
Maelxich
10-01-2023, 07:01 PM
Black Forest Games made the fantastic Destroy All Humans remakes, a quasi-open world like those two can do wonders for the ip, i can just imagine hoping from rooftop to rooftop on a similar engine.
And if they also release a similar collector's edition to the 2 DAH remakes i'll loose my sh*t.
Bottom line is, i'm optimistic and have full confidence on BFG and THQ, they've been doing wonders for dormant IPs latelly, and BFG in particular are really passionate about the projects they've handled and have been more in tune with the fanbases that came with them, and that's at least more than you can say about Paramount and Nickelodeon.
I wouldn't use the destroy all human games as an example of them being potentially good, I would use their games they made completely on their own as an example of what to expect and the results are not good
RaphaelinSTL
01-25-2024, 09:46 AM
Well this isn't good.
TMNT: The Last Ronin Dev Reportedly Cut in Half After Layoffs (https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/01/tmnt-the-last-ronin-dev-reportedly-cut-in-half-after-layoffs)
I think most of us were worried about the team behind this game behind able to handle the scope of the project, but I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being dead in the water after this. Would love to be proved wrong, but the gaming industry right now is being rocked by layoffs across the board.
shihe
01-25-2024, 11:14 AM
I thought it'd be too good to be true.
We just can't have mature TMNT on a screen now can we?
I already expected their aim to be somewhere around Out of the Shadows (game) ~ Mutants in Manhattan type quality at best (cause yeah, a AAA tmnt game is just not happening until the brand is acquired by WB or Disney)
But this bodes TERRIBLE for this game if you ask me.
Like their last update was just concept art. This is gonna get significantly delayed, enter development hell, or straight up cancelled, this early in the game.
This should've been a movie.
(Oh, but can't waaaait for that Mutant Mayhem tie in. I bet Nick would sell half their soul to see THAT happen instead)
RaphaelinSTL
01-25-2024, 12:45 PM
(Oh, but can't waaaait for that Mutant Mayhem tie in. I bet Nick would sell half their soul to see THAT happen instead)
Yeah, I know there's that Mutant Mayhem tie in game coming out apparently this year from the team that did that little kiddish Justice League game last year and my little worry is that we'll be getting back into that 2010-2014 era of TMNT games were it was super mediocre stuff based whatever the current Nick iteration was.
2022 was such a great time for TMNT games. A TMNT game that's AAA is cool and all, but with the Switch being my main way to play games ... I'm still all down for another Cowabunga Collection or some game in the style of Shredder's Revenge.
Andrew NDB
01-25-2024, 12:49 PM
Well this isn't good.
TMNT: The Last Ronin Dev Reportedly Cut in Half After Layoffs (https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/01/tmnt-the-last-ronin-dev-reportedly-cut-in-half-after-layoffs)
I think most of us were worried about the team behind this game behind able to handle the scope of the project, but I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being dead in the water after this. Would love to be proved wrong, but the gaming industry right now is being rocked by layoffs across the board.
Well, there it is. It'll just be another "Out of the Shadows"/"Mutants in Manhattan"... out of money and half-baked.
Sumac
01-25-2024, 04:54 PM
Oh well...it is as good as dead, unless devs pull out a small miracle.
Andrew NDB
01-25-2024, 05:08 PM
Oh well...it is as good as dead
Or they'll do what they always do when they run out of money on a current gen TMNT game... they'll put it out anyway half-baked to try and recoup the money they've already spent.
RaphaelinSTL
01-25-2024, 08:50 PM
Or they'll do what they always do when they run out of money on a current gen TMNT game... they'll put it out anyway half-baked to try and recoup the money they've already spent.
I honestly don't think it even got that far. And now with 50% of the staff cut, I think it's as good as dead unless another studio takes over.
IndigoErth
01-25-2024, 11:55 PM
Gee, maybe they should have kept it under wraps until it was close to done instead of disappointing people. I'm not much if a gamer, but I'd have watched people's play through videos for sure and looked forward to it. :(
Now Paramount, go make us a movie to make up for it...
Andrew NDB
01-26-2024, 12:46 AM
I honestly don't think it even got that far. And now with 50% of the staff cut, I think it's as good as dead unless another studio takes over.
You're probably right.
Sumac
01-26-2024, 02:06 AM
Or they'll do what they always do when they run out of money on a current gen TMNT game... they'll put it out anyway half-baked to try and recoup the money they've already spent.
Same difference.
Andrew NDB
01-26-2024, 02:11 AM
And don't worry. You guys aren't alone. About 10 years ago Highlander fans were about to get a pretty slick, Ninja Gaiden-like game. But then at some point they realized the fandom was like 800 people... and none of them wanted a slasher, so it folded after they spent millions.
BornAgain
01-26-2024, 04:33 AM
Not a big deal to me if another developer takes over. I doubt the game just flat out doesn’t happen. Someone will make it.
Andrew NDB
01-26-2024, 11:00 AM
Not a big deal to me if another developer takes over. I doubt the game just flat out doesn’t happen. Someone will make it.
Unlikely. Other companies picking up other companies' scraps is pretty rare to see.
Sumac
01-26-2024, 01:38 PM
Unlikely. Other companies picking up other companies' scraps is pretty rare to see.
Not quite, but results usually are bad.
BornAgain
01-27-2024, 05:04 PM
It seemed very early into development though so another team could potentially take over the license not the game.
Cowabung-Gal
01-27-2024, 09:13 PM
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Aaronardo
01-27-2024, 10:18 PM
How far do you think they got into finishing this game? If the company got hacked like Insomniac did with their Wolverine game, would there be anything to show?
I'd bet serious money on concept art & character design sheets, and that being the furthest it went. I'd be dumbfounded if 3D modeling software was ever opened for this project.
Worth noting that there are currently sweeping layoffs happening across the game industry (among others). So while the project seems doomed now, I believe this had more to do with the state of the industry than the individual developer.
Sumac
01-28-2024, 04:54 AM
If this game was canned before any kind of actual builds were made, it is dead. Unless there is very strong creative will behind the project to keep it afloat and revive it.
RaphaelinSTL
01-28-2024, 11:46 AM
I'd bet serious money on concept art & character design sheets, and that being the furthest it went. I'd be dumbfounded if 3D modeling software was ever opened for this project.
Based on the small amount that we even heard, it seemed like all they really had was just concept art. This was something they really probably shouldn't have announced at all until it was way further into development. More areas of gaming really need to take the post-Metroid Prime 4 Nintendo approach. Don't announce anything until you're like 98% finished.
Lord Nightwalker
01-28-2024, 10:04 PM
Damn it.
I was looking forward to this.
RaphaelinSTL
04-01-2024, 03:10 PM
Lolol happy April first y’all
Anarchistguy
04-02-2024, 05:37 AM
Not quite, but results usually are bad.
Well there was the Ghostbusters video game from 2009. It switched publishers and still turned our pretty good.
oldmanwinters
04-02-2024, 08:45 AM
Cover reveal
https://i.postimg.cc/nZP15LXH/1707114837895.jpg
I wish! Would be a fun idea for homebrew!
Galactus
04-07-2024, 06:59 PM
Honestly even though it was being done by a company with a questionable track record I do think it's a shame it's fallen through. I would argue a lot of the popularity of Miles Morales is less about the spider-verse movies (which are good) and more him being featured in a popular video game and being spun off into his own game. I did hope a well done Last Ronin game might likewise help popularise TMNT content with a more serious tone. I still hope it gets picked up by another company. God of War inspired seemed a bit ambitious though. Something with the look and feel of Batman: Arkham City would suit The Last Ronin perfectly in a game format.
RaphaelinSTL
11-30-2024, 01:29 AM
It's crazy that we're approaching almost a full year since the news of the layoffs at Black Forest Games. I have a feeling Paramount is still itching to get SOMETHING game related out of this franchise, but this game is going to be stuck in developmental hell for years to come, I'm sure
CyberCubed
12-01-2024, 05:36 PM
This was obviously canceled a long time ago.
ToTheNines
12-01-2024, 06:43 PM
Shame this isn’t happening. Perfect story for constant stealth in an open world. Reason to switch between katana/sai/bo/nunchaku. Potential to expand upon/correct the god-awful kid gloves story the comic ended up telling.
Don’t know that it would be worth anything, but they also would have the opportunity to do a swerve and reveal that the Ronin is actually one of the other guys. I think Mikey makes the most sense, but they would have the freedom to try new things if they wanted to.
A whole big announcement over a game that had not a single line of code written for it did not spell good news from the beginning. I think it can still happen, since I mean it had no development doneyet, if it's something the studio wanted but yeah you can't assume it's not dead. For video games it's best to not count that it's going to come out until you have a playable demo and even then some games get cancelled in the alpha stages.
Andrew NDB
12-05-2024, 01:08 PM
I put slightly better odds that this gets made than a Last Ronin movie.
jignat
01-13-2025, 08:31 PM
With the death of Transformers: Reactivate, I assume this will be cancelled quietly in the next 1-2 years.
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