All members of missing Titan submarine believed dead

[ChosenOne]

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/titan-submarine-dead-missing-titanic-1235649790/

Death by live action Crichton/Benchley collab.

Just an awful tragedy for everyone involved, except the OceanGate CEO. F*ck that guy.

[Andrew NDB]

A massive implosion on its way down to the Titanic. Good grief, can you imagine it? You're just sitting there cross-legged on the floor and BOOM, the bulkhead a foot away from you explodes at you. And, most likely, you explode.

Also, it's really upsetting the number of people dancing on the graves of these people simply because they had a lot of money. I can understand the anger at the captain, but the actual delight, even celebration I'm seeing at the deaths... wow, that's some pretty telling stuff.

[ChosenOne]

They wouldn't even be aware of the implosion, it's as sudden as your ears popping. Which, considering the alternative in this case (slowly suffocating for several days while trapped in a cold, damp, silent and dark metal tube at the bottom of the sea in cramped conditions with no food, water or hope, while surrounded by bodily waste and four other panicked humans), was truly a mercy.

[IMJ]

I hated this story and have been hoping for days that they find these people. What an awful way to go, no matter how it happens.

[triplexxx]

Very depressing story, more body count added to the Titanic tragedy, surprised it wasn't brought up here earlier. Also, the CEO turned out to be the great-great-grandson-in-law of the old couple who sunk together with the Titanic, Isidor & Ida Straus.

[Mayhem]

Yeah for everything that’s happened, I’m a bit saddened by the supposed schadenfreude happening in some commentary circles. On the other hand as noted, if they were never coming back up alive, a quick and relatively painless demise was better than slowly suffocating to death.

[ChosenOne]

The family's reporting that the 19 year old didn't want to go but wanted to please his father since they departed on Father's Day. That's f*cking heartbreaking, I can't imagine the family's pain.

[IndigoErth]

Terribly sad...what a way to go, but was entirely their own foolish choice. That one guy who was going to go with them and changed his mind made the best and luckiest decision of his life.

[Mayhem]

Terribly sad...what a way to go, but was entirely their own foolish choice. That one guy who was going to go with them and changed his mind made the best and luckiest decision of his life.
Would he have fit? I thought five was the max capacity. Still like sardines having seen the inside…

[ChosenOne]

Terribly sad...what a way to go, but was entirely their own foolish choice. That one guy who was going to go with them and changed his mind made the best and luckiest decision of his life.

Not entirely true in the case of the kid who just wanted to please his dad.

Would he have fit? I thought five was the max capacity. Still like sardines having seen the inside…

I wouldn’t even want to be in there by myself, let alone with other people. Worse than being buried alive.

[Mayhem]

I wouldn’t even want to be in there by myself, let alone with other people. Worse than being buried alive.
You certainly wouldn’t have gotten the better half anywhere near that, she can’t even ride a crowded Tube train without getting claustrophobic. Myself, would have been fine, except for the fact you don’t actually SEE the Titanic, it’s all projected on screens, no different to having the robot drone go down and transmit the images to the surface.

[IndigoErth]

There was a kid? Well that's horrible, poor kid.

Would he have fit? I thought five was the max capacity. Still like sardines having seen the inside…
Not sure, saw the guy speaking on the news. Maybe someone else took his spot after he changed his mind.

[Andrew NDB]

I wouldn’t even want to be in there by myself,

Wouldn't that be even worse? Traveling to the bottom of the ocean all alone... deeper and deeper.

[ChosenOne]

Myself, would have been fine, except for the fact you don’t actually SEE the Titanic, it’s all projected on screens, no different to having the robot drone go down and transmit the images to the surface.

Exactly! I kept thinking about that to myself even before I learned they wouldn't be able to see a damn thing out the viewport anyway. Stay topside and watch if it's all the same. It's just that the bastard CEO wanted to go down there himself and conned four others into covering his fuel expenses (around 1 million, which amounts to four people at 250k a pop).

There was a kid? Well that's horrible, poor kid.

A 19 year old who, according to the family, didn't particularly want to go but was talked into it by his father and wanted to please him, especially since it was booked for Father's Day. Saddest part of the whole thing, IMO.

Not sure, saw the guy speaking on the news. Maybe someone else took his spot after he changed his mind.

You guys mean Mário Ferreira, right? He's a somewhat controversial figure here in Portugal but I'm glad he didn't go.

Wouldn't that be even worse? Traveling to the bottom of the ocean all alone... deeper and deeper.

Not really. Not to me, at least. Orhers may feel differently. Plus, plenty of leg room.

[Andrew NDB]

A 19 year old who, according to the family, didn't particularly want to go but was talked into it by his father and wanted to please him

Is this for sure? I was seeing this piece spreading like wildfire on social media, but just by people who clicked on a clickbait.

[ChosenOne]

Is this for sure? I was seeing this piece spreading like wildfire on social media, but just by people who clicked on a clickbait.

Yes, his aunt said he was terrified of the sub but went along anyway.

[IndigoErth]

Okay, so it wasn't like an 8-year-old, but that's still a damn shame, he'll never really get to live life.

[ChosenOne]

Okay, so it wasn't like an 8-year-old, but that's still a damn shame, he'll never really get to live life.

Only sane person there.

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah, Twitter is full of heatless heathens laughing, applauding and celebrating all these people dying, and you know... they're the ones on the right side of history so they say.

Like dude, human life is still human life. What the ****.

[IMJ]

I read somewhere that Musk is going to consider the use of "CIS" and "CISGendered" as hate speech.

And rightfully so because that's what it's become.

[ssjup81]

Man, I feel sorry for those on board, especially that one guy who went on there with his son. Turns out he didn't even want to go and only went because his father wanted him to.Would he have fit? I thought five was the max capacity. Still like sardines having seen the inside…He and his son were going to go, but the Pakistani guy and his son took their spots when those spots opened.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Well, I’m never going in a submarine again after this tragedy. Or at least, if I do, it will be with a sense of uneasiness

[The Deadman]

Well, I’m never going in a submarine again after this tragedy. Or at least, if I do, it will be with a sense of uneasiness

An actual submarine cant go down that far, if they could, they probably would have gotten to the craft a lot faster.

[ChosenOne]

Well, I’m never going in a submarine again after this tragedy. Or at least, if I do, it will be with a sense of uneasiness

"Again"? You've been in one before? How was it?

[Cowabung-Gal]

"Again"? You've been in one before? How was it?

It was years ago. My family went to Honolulu Hawaii for vacation. We got into this small submarine and explored some part of the Pacific Ocean. It was amazing! And the water was absolutely gorgeous.

[ChosenOne]

It was years ago. My family went to Honolulu Hawaii for vacation. We got into this small submarine and explored some part of the Pacific Ocean. It was amazing! And the water was absolutely gorgeous.

Did it feel claustrophobic?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Did it feel claustrophobic?

Depends on how claustrophobic you personally are. It was a bit of a tight squeeze, but all I cared about was watching the marine animals and fish passing by.

[Coola Yagami]

I read somewhere that Musk is going to consider the use of "CIS" and "CISGendered" as hate speech.

And rightfully so because that's what it's become.

He is, but how does that tie to the submarine story?

I personally am not a fan. It's a label they want to use on the rest of us that aren't doing the gender thing, similar to how they wish we'd all put pronouns in our social media despite the fact that our pronouns are the normal ones.

Pretty much they want everybody to play along with their labels, even normal people that are actually at peace with their birth gender.

[ChosenOne]

Depends on how claustrophobic you personally are. It was a bit of a tight squeeze, but all I cared about was watching the marine animals and fish passing by.

I don't think I am but I've never really been put to the test. What I am is thalassophobic, so I'll just stick to visiting the aquarium. I'm glad you had that chance and enjoyed the experience (and that everything went well), though.

[oldmanwinters]

Heh, the Maritime section:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventors_killed_by_their_own_invention

[Andrew NDB]

I think I'd be OK getting aboard a reputably quality sub for a dive. I'd actually be more OK with that than flying, I think, which I do but it is terrifying every time.

[Cowabung-Gal]

I don't think I am but I've never really been put to the test. What I am is thalassophobic, so I'll just stick to visiting the aquarium. I'm glad you had that chance and enjoyed the experience (and that everything went well), though.

Thanks. It’s def a good childhood memory to have

I think I'd be OK getting aboard a reputably quality sub for a dive. I'd actually be more OK with that than flying, I think, which I do but it is terrifying every time.

My mom is seriously claustrophobic so she can’t get in a sub or get on a plane. Had to drive 13 hours to get to Texas this weekend because of her fear of flying.

[triplexxx]

Very depressing story, more body count added to the Titanic tragedy, surprised it wasn't brought up here earlier. Also, the CEO turned out to be the great-great-grandson-in-law of the old couple who sunk together with the Titanic, Isidor & Ida Straus.
Now it's been reported that the actor Lew Pelter, who played Isidor Straus in the Titanic movie, passed away at 94 about a month ago, albeit naturally, lung cancer. Maybe this incident is what got this put in the news.

[IndigoErth]

Oh great, the Titanic is metaphysically taking down people with any ties to it.



Edit: Not to go into dark humor after a tragic incident with that sub... (Though it's also sorta personal dark humor because some distant relative with my surname died on that ship so I could be screwed if that would-be wannabe-movie theme was real.)

[ChosenOne]

Edit: Not to go into dark humor after a tragic incident with that sub...

Come, now. Deep down, you know you crushed it.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeesh. "Human sauce."

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[oldmanwinters]

Yeesh. "Human sauce."



I guess it’s a less painful way to go. Most folks assume the space shuttle explosions instantly disintegrated the astronauts, but… it was probably way worse for any that didn’t immediately lose consciousness.

[Andrew NDB]

I guess it’s a less painful way to go. Most folks assume the space shuttle explosions instantly disintegrated the astronauts, but… it was probably way worse for any that didn’t immediately lose consciousness.

Wasn't it the Columbia explosion where they said the astronauts didn't die in the explosion, but cooked to death in the cabin on the way down?

[ChosenOne]

https://news.sky.com/story/submersible-debris-brought-ashore-after-deadly-implosion-12911152

Well, I'm never squeezing the remaining toothpaste out of the tube the same way again...

[IMJ]

He is, but how does that tie to the submarine story?

I mentioned it only in response to where you just said something about Twitter immediately above my response there. I was just affirming the context of what you said.

[Andrew NDB]

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Dumb question... why didn't they just build the sub with titanium or whatever? Was the composite material like a cost saving measure, or to keep the weight down for some reason?

[ChosenOne]

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Dumb question... why didn't they just build the sub with titanium or whatever? Was the composite material like a cost saving measure, or to keep the weight down for some reason?

Well... Remember John Hammond? "Spared no expense", meanwhile the one person responsible for the extremely complex computer systems is woefully underpaid? Yeah.

This whole thing is a Michael Crichton plot with a dash of Peter Benchley thrown in.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Well... Remember John Hammond? "Spared no expense", meanwhile the one person responsible for the extremely complex computer systems is woefully underpaid? Yeah.

Yeah, the guy treated the dinosaurs better than his employees. Also, Dr. Henry Wu was probably just a diversity hire who had no idea what he was getting himself and his co-workers into.

[ChosenOne]

Yeah, the guy treated the dinosaurs better than his employees. Also, Dr. Henry Wu was probably just a diversity hire who had no idea what he was getting himself and his co-workers into.

And he was still the most competent person at his job there. That's just sad.

(Book Muldoon was a badass but he needed to get drunk to be at his best, so he doesn't count.)

[IMJ]

Geezed I just realized that I still have not seen the last Jurassic Park. And you'd imagine I'd be all-in because I love the franchise, love the old guard originals and love the new cast.

Crazy.

[ChosenOne]

Geezed I just realized that I still have not seen the last Jurassic Park. And you'd imagine I'd be all-in because I love the franchise, love the old guard originals and love the new cast.

Crazy.

You'll be disappointed. I'm a huge fan of both the movies and the novels, and I have nothing good to say about it. The very definition of "Meh". Maybe watch the extended cut if you can find it, it's at least a bit more passable.

[Andrew NDB]

I really liked Jurassic Park 1, really liked Jurassic Park 2, and didn't like 3, 4, 5, or 6.

You'll be disappointed. I'm a huge fan of both the movies and the novels, and I have nothing good to say about it. The very definition of "Meh". Maybe watch the extended cut if you can find it, it's at least a bit more passable.

It's hard to imagine how adding additional footage to the last one would make it any better. Maybe cutting things out might.

[FrederikWolferson]

Wasn't there a Biden Impeachment going on while we were all looking at submarine memes?

[ChosenOne]

Wasn't there a Biden Impeachment going on while we were all looking at submarine memes?

Nah, it's become commonplace, they have one of those almost every month and nothing comes out of them. Just like Trump's. Impeachments will continue until morale improves.

[Cowabung-Gal]

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Good thing the pilots weren’t experienced “50 year old white guys”, right?

[DarkFell]

(I'm trying to type this in with a sense of respect. A lot of comments online on various social media sites about those onboard when the submersible imploded were rather tacky and unkind.)

The CEO that possessed and piloted The Titan along with those that were present, were merely people (with the exception of one individual) that wanted to see the final resting place of a luxury ship that continues to fascinate from the dark cold depths.

Instead, lots of other people found The Titan wreckage resting near The Titanic.

It isn't wrong to explore, but it is foolish to make 'financial shortcuts' to a submersible that is expected to operate in a deep part of the ocean. That and constant deep diving Titanic expeditions, might have done in The Titan and it's former crew.

[Andrew NDB]

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[Wolfie65]

That's what happens when you fire all the people who actually know what they're doing.

[Mayhem]

That's what happens when you fire all the people who actually know what they're doing.
Twitter then, also imploding...

[Andrew NDB]

Twitter then, also imploding...

Not remotely. And no, they didn't. Unless we're mourning the championers of compelled speech they hemorrhaged.

[IMJ]

Twitter then, also imploding...

:lol::lol::lol:

GTFOH with that nonsense.... OMG if ever there was evidence of your addiction-to-position rather than reality it was this.

:lol::lol: OMG! :lol::lol::lol:

[Cowabung-Gal]

Twitter then, also imploding...

No pun intended, right?

[Mayhem]

Oh pun fully intended...

Not remotely. And no, they didn't. Unless we're mourning the championers of compelled speech they hemorrhaged.
Don't mean the users, I mean all the staff Elon decided to fire...

"That's what happens when you fire all the people who actually know what they're doing. "

[ChosenOne]

They knew what they were doing, alright...

[Andrew NDB]

Don't mean the users, I mean all the staff Elon decided to fire...

Right. The compelled speech staffers. Adios!

[IMJ]

Right. The compelled speech staffers. Adios!

Exactly. Staffers literally useless anywhere so employed as opinionated thought-police.

[ChosenOne]

Exactly. Staffers literally useless anywhere so employed as opinionated thought-police.

In other words, leftists.

[Mayhem]

What, all the programmers, and testers, and IT, and server maintenance, and you know, responsible for keeping Twitter online and running? Riiiiiiight… and then you get Mr I’m not paying Google, oops service outage head guy… who’s now suing the lawyer company that said he had to complete the Twitter buyout.