Superman (2025 film)

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently it will have Jon Kent? Uh oh. You know what that means.

https://fandomwire.com/comics-fans-would-lose-their-sht-internet-explodes-as-james-gunn-allegedly-introducing-henry-cavill-supermans-son-jon-kent-in-superman-legacy-may-bring-cavill-back-in-future/

[oldmanwinters]

Apparently it will have Jon Kent? Uh oh. You know what that means.

https://fandomwire.com/comics-fans-would-lose-their-sht-internet-explodes-as-james-gunn-allegedly-introducing-henry-cavill-supermans-son-jon-kent-in-superman-legacy-may-bring-cavill-back-in-future/

Yup.

https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/op02Hv5i4Z049nGJYmk6BScRqHO.jpg

[Cowabung-Gal]

“Look! Up in the sky! It’s a bird! It’s a plane! It’s….two guys doing the plough?”

[Turo602]

Apparently? That's all garbage speculation.

[IMJ]

Apparently? That's all garbage speculation.

What about when it isn't and it's a Jon Kent flick?

You're gonna be in a theater with a bunch of social-puritan-apartment-lifers with thick rimmed plastic glasses, black sweaters and Starbucks as they all coo at the end and say it was stunning and brave. Especially the obligatory man-to-man sex scene which is required in these flicks simply because these people are more concerned with the "gayness" than the "humanity". But maybe someone will get an in-flight Super-BJ and at least that will be a new perspective.

:lol: Just kidding.

I say bring it on. I hope they throw a ton of dough into it and make sure that everyone has really good, metro-sexual-smooth skin, Superman Returns style.

[Autbot_Benz]

James Gunn
@JamesGunn
Replying to
@BabySmurkyy

@bleedingcool
and 2 others
Clark Kent is in Legacy.

Straight from Gunn's Twitter

[member_removed]

I thought Legacy was going to be about a black Superman?
I thought they were chasing Michael B. Jordan for the lead.

[oldmanwinters]

Straight from Gunn's Twitter

That might be the only thing straight about it…
:twink:

[Autbot_Benz]

I thought Legacy was going to be about a black Superman?
I thought they were chasing Michael B. Jordan for the lead.

no Superman Legacy is Clark Kent's Superman Movie. No Jon Kent No Black Superman. I don't think MBJ's Superman movie is happening anymore.


Also Gunn responded to a fan regarding Jon Kent

https://i.imgur.com/xE22a7V.png

[Cowabung-Gal]

Also Gunn responded to a fan regarding Jon Kent

https://i.imgur.com/xE22a7V.png

Maybe he means Lois will have a child, his child. I doubt he’s one of those people who think that men can get pregnant…or is he?

And in regards to the tweet, he’s just saying, “I didn’t specifically say that Clark will have a kid.” He’s neither confirming nor denying Jon’s appearance in the movie.

BUT I could end up being wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time. :ohwell:

[The Deadman]

That article literally posted fan speculation and then assumed that Legacy is what the title implies.

Oh and if you wanna be technical, we already had a Superman movie with his son in it....it was Superman Returns.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Oh and if you wanna be technical, we already had a Superman movie with his son in it....it was Superman Returns.

Doubt it will be the only movie with a Superman junior in it, though, and Legacy may or may not be the next one.

And if any of you think that Hollywood directors always tell you the truth before a movie/show’s release, then you obviously don’t know about the Kevin Smith/Clownfish TV drama.

[Andrew NDB]

we already had a Superman movie with his son in it....it was Superman Returns.

Was that what that was?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Was that what that was?

Yeah, it’s also a movie with cannibalistic Pomeranians in it.

[ZariusTwo]

Tom King let it slip Gunn is the director in an interview that was pulled from Youtube

https://twitter.com/GothamChief/status/1634236315582513167?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1634236315582513167%7Ctwgr% 5Eed6a8fe894fa1aac3e2ec7f6bc80a2dd1cd5ec16%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fofficialfan.proboards.com%2F thread%2F623658%2Fpurpose-news-thread-gunn-show%3Fpage%3D29

[AquaParade]

I’m down. I don’t love his previous films but I think this is going to be something unique and special for James Gunn. I think he understands the character he’s dealing with. Don’t expect this to have the same exact tone as Suicide Squad.

Probably more in vein with the emotional moments from Guardians.

[Zulithe]

Gunn directing is not news... he said he wanted to direct it from the start, but was focusing on writing it and it wasn't set in stone. This could just be Tom going off of those earlier comments.

[AquaParade]

Gunn would have likely debunked it by now if it weren’t true. He’s basically sent scoopers into hiding with his misinformation-squashing on twitter.

[Andrew NDB]

I’m down. I don’t love his previous films but I think this is going to be something unique and special for James Gunn. I think he understands the character he’s dealing with. Don’t expect this to have the same exact tone as Suicide Squad.

Probably more in vein with the emotional moments from Guardians.

I just worry he won't be able to get behind the amount of stoicism Superman requires. You know, without resorting to sight gags or goofy stuff to make a joke of everything.

But we'll see. He's a smart enough guy that he knows what people's perceptions of his limitations are. He might surprise, if his heart is really in it.

[Autbot_Benz]

James Gunn
@JamesGunn
Yes, I’m directing Superman: Legacy to be released on July 11, 2025.

Gunn confirms he is director

[AquaParade]

Two upcoming Batman feature films, a Superman movie finally on the way, The Authority and my beloved Swampy finally getting the treatment they deserve, a Joker sequel….I really couldn’t be more pleased with WB’s upcoming slate.

Especially because the MCU is crapping the bed. Paradigm shift coming right up.

[ZariusTwo]

Pencils down for Gunn as the writer's strike looms

https://www.cbr.com/superman-legacy-james-gunn-supports-writers-strike/#:~:text=According%20to%20notable%20industry%20ins ider,to%20continue%2C%22%20said%20Sneider.

[ZariusTwo]

Gunn handed in a first draft for the studio to put into production before the writers strike happened.

https://www.thewrap.com/james-gunn-superman-legacy-script-writers-strike/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking_news_7258655

[ZariusTwo]

Gunn lets it slip Krypto will feature

https://www.cbr.com/krypto-the-superdog-in-superman-legacy-james-gunn/

[Andrew NDB]

It will introduce The Authority.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/superman-legacy-to-introduce-authority/

[Barkworm]

Serious question: What do people expect from a new Superman film? Even though I grew up with 90s comics, I always liked the more light-hearted, cheerful versions of Superman the most. I thought Cavill's portrayal was way too gloomy. I guess Chris Evans' Captain America is how I'd like a new Superman.

[Andrew NDB]

Serious question: What do people expect from a new Superman film? Even though I grew up with 90s comics, I always liked the more light-hearted, cheerful versions of Superman the most. I thought Cavill's portrayal was way too gloomy. I guess Chris Evans' Captain America is how I'd like a new Superman.

I think Man of Steel was... 80% the Superman movie* I wanted to see (granted, he didn't really BECOME Superman until the end). For that 20% that was off, I'd just say improve the "fun." And if Lex is in it, I don't know who they'd cast but I'd want someone only slightly older than Superman. Like a Billy Zane back in 1999 or so type.

[Sumac]

Serious question: What do people expect from a new Superman film? Even though I grew up with 90s comics, I always liked the more light-hearted, cheerful versions of Superman the most. I thought Cavill's portrayal was way too gloomy. I guess Chris Evans' Captain America is how I'd like a new Superman.
Something uplifting and simple.
No post-modernism ****** metacommentary, no dour "deconstruction", no self-irony (which is nowadays is basically self-hatred). Something old school heroic, fun with a good natured wit and maybe a bit of humor (but not too much).

Something, which make you feel great and aspire to be better, after you watched it.

Mostly impossible nowadays, but, one can hope?

[IMJ]

Serious question: What do people expect from a new Superman film? Even though I grew up with 90s comics, I always liked the more light-hearted, cheerful versions of Superman the most. I thought Cavill's portrayal was way too gloomy. I guess Chris Evans' Captain America is how I'd like a new Superman.

I agree with this 100%. Somewhere in between the 80's movies and Cavill's appearances. Truth is I think Cavill is 100% the perfect Superman in every way. He was just given dour material to work with.

But as far as looks are concerned, Superman should be a brick shithouse.

https://i.imgur.com/zbPhxFkl.jpg

That is Henry Cavill all the way. "Lean Superman" doesn't work.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/vRu0q2q.jpg

The Hollywood Reporter
@THR
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James Gunn has found his #Superman and Lois Lane in David Corenswet and Rachel Brosnahan: http://thr.cm/MnoEsTN


James Gunn has found his Superman and Lois Lane. After a lengthy search, David Corenswet and Rachel Brosnahan will star in Superman: Legacy, the film that will launch DC’s new universe under writer-director Gunn and his co-DC Studios boss, Peter Safran.

The duo were among six actors who vied for the lead roles, with Gunn filming screen tests over the June 17 weekend with Nicholas Hoult and Tom Brittney also vying to play Superman/Clark Kent and Emma Mackey and Phoebe Dynevor also in the running for Lois Lane, the Daily Planet reporter.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-legacy-cast-david-corenswet-rachel-brosnahan-1235358907/

[CyberCubed]

Thank god Superman and Lois are white. Seems like a good choice.

[Barkworm]

I'm not familiar with David Corenswet but he's got the look (looks a lot like Henry Cavill, lol) and he's pretty tall. Google search immediately suggested "David Corenswet height" so everyone seems to be doing the same thing, haha.

EDIT: God, shut the **** up, Cubed...

[CyberCubed]

They were planning a black Superman movie before James Gunn took charge of the DC movie slate.

[Andrew NDB]

Just watched a few interviews with them and clips. Not bad. Not bad at all, especially that Lois. That dude needs to hit the weights hard, though. And I don't want to hear "Superman needs a swimmer's body" again because that's bullsh**.

[Barkworm]

Brosnahan reminds me of Margot Kidder which isn't bad. And I just listened to an interview with Corenswet, his voice is great! But yeah, buff him up hard.

[IMJ]

Don't know anything about actor-dude but he looks scrawny as hell. They better get him drinking Carnivore Mass, man.

[CyberCubed]

As I said, it's a miracle they're both white. This feels like classic Superman and Lois.

[Autbot_Benz]

As I said, it's a miracle they're both white. This feels like classic Superman and Lois.

Superman has always been white in media you twit. :roll::roll::roll:

Christopher Reeves White Margot Kidder White
Dean Cain White Terry Hatcher White
Brandon Routh White Kate Bosworth White
Tom Welling White Erica Durance White
Henry Cavill White Amy Adams White
Tyler Hoechlin White Bitsie Tulloch White

[IMJ]

When Superman and Lois first launched Dean Cain always sort of felt like a hispanic guy in the Super-suit.

And I think Cubed is doing his routine trolling thing, but either way I suspect that the last several years of white-hate and race-swapping in media is what he is basing his commentary on.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Superman has always been white in media you twit. :roll::roll::roll:

Christopher Reeves White Margot Kidder White
Dean Cain White Terry Hatcher White
Brandon Routh White Kate Bosworth White
Tom Welling White Erica Durance White
Henry Cavill White Amy Adams White
Tyler Hoechlin White Bitsie Tulloch White

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/23/arts/black-superman.html

https://www.polygon.com/2015/5/7/8561515/bruce-timm-justice-leage-gods-and-monsters

https://www.dc.com/blog/2022/02/09/the-black-history-of-superman-part-2

[CyberCubed]

Superman has always been white in media you twit. :roll::roll::roll:

Christopher Reeves White Margot Kidder White
Dean Cain White Terry Hatcher White
Brandon Routh White Kate Bosworth White
Tom Welling White Erica Durance White
Henry Cavill White Amy Adams White
Tyler Hoechlin White Bitsie Tulloch White

That's why I said "thank god" because there was a black Superman project in the works. I guess it's probably canceled now though.

[TheCanadiandrome]

That's why I said "thank god" because there was a black Superman project in the works. I guess it's probably canceled now though.

Seems like

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/23/arts/black-superman.html

https://www.polygon.com/2015/5/7/8561515/bruce-timm-justice-leage-gods-and-monsters

https://www.dc.com/blog/2022/02/09/the-black-history-of-superman-part-2

Set and match ftw :lol:

[CyberCubed]

Like imagine if Superman/Clark Kent was black or hispanic or something? Or Lois Lane was black or whatever?

The internet would be in up in flames. Instead I see everyone online happy with the casting choices on reddit, twitter, forums, etc.

[Andrew NDB]

That's why I said "thank god" because there was a black Superman project in the works. I guess it's probably canceled now though.

That racist Ta-Nehisi guy is still supposedly working on a draft for a black Superman movie with JJ Abrams. It's been a long time since we've heard anything about it and I'd honestly be surprised if it moves forward, given the shift in upper management and new directives.

The Michael B. Jordan black Superman series, I think for HBO Max, was never really shut down. I think Michael B. Jordan got too busy writing, starring, and directing Creed 3 for so long and then promoting it. Probably he waited too long and it won't be able to be made. The people who were green-lighting stuff like Birds of Prey and WW 1984 are long gone now.

I can't remember which one now, but one of them was said to be set in the "real" DCEU, not an Elseworlds thing.

[CyberCubed]

Making either of these projects now would make no sense, Gunn said he wanted to streamline DC output so everything is in the same universe (besides Matt Reeve's The Batman and the Joker movies), so making "alternate" Superman stuff doesn't make sense at this point.

DC doesn't want multiple versions of the same character going on at the same time anymore, only making an exception for Batman.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

https://i.imgur.com/vRu0q2q.jpg






https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-legacy-cast-david-corenswet-rachel-brosnahan-1235358907/

Not familiar with any of these two but they look like their comic book counterparts. So far not bad.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Like imagine if Superman/Clark Kent was black or hispanic or something? Or Lois Lane was black or whatever?

The internet would be in up in flames. Instead I see everyone online happy with the casting choices on reddit, twitter, forums, etc.

Mmhmm exactly dude

[Autbot_Benz]

"I think we've seen his origin enough in film at this time," he said, later responding to another fan to confirm, "There is no Young Clark" in Superman: Legacy.



https://comicbookmovie.com/superman/superman-legacy/superman-legacy-score-is-already-being-worked-on-james-gunn-confirms-no-young-clark-kent-flashbacks-a204161#gs.2r1hsp

[Barkworm]

https://comicbookmovie.com/superman/superman-legacy/superman-legacy-score-is-already-being-worked-on-james-gunn-confirms-no-young-clark-kent-flashbacks-a204161#gs.2r1hsp

The same is true for Batman, Spider-Man and also Ninja Turtles. These characters‘ origins have been beaten to death. If you count TV, I’ve seen at least four different Superman origin stories, probably more!? That’s not counting comic books! Do something else with him! The first details about this new film all sound promising.

[Dpooly84]

Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner I'm not mad at that lol

[Autbot_Benz]

James Gunn has cast his old pal Nathan Fillion in Superman: Legacy along with Edi Gathegi and rising star Isabela Merced.

Fillion will play Guy Gardner, who in DC Comics lore, is a member of the Green Lantern Corps. That likely means you can safely expect Fillion to appear in the upcoming Green Lantern TV series that Gunn is prepping for Warner Bros. Discovery’s streaming service, Max.

Elsewhere, Gathegi will play Mister Terrific, aka Michael Holt, who is as brilliant an inventor as he is an excellent fighter. He’ll be joined in battle by Merced, who will play Hawkgirl, a character that traditionally uses swords and spears.

https://abovetheline.com/2023/07/11/superman-legacy-cast-nathan-fillion-green-lantern-edi-gathegi-mister-terrific-isabela-merced-hawkgirl/

[Dpooly84]

https://abovetheline.com/2023/07/11/superman-legacy-cast-nathan-fillion-green-lantern-edi-gathegi-mister-terrific-isabela-merced-hawkgirl/

Who wrote this? Hawkgirl is known for using spears and swords? I can only picture her with the mace lol

[Andrew NDB]

Nathan's 52 now, though. It's a good casting but... Guy shouldn't be a 52 year old man, especially just starting out.

I take it this means that this Guy Gardner is part of the same Corps we'll see over on the new GL TV show?

[Autbot_Benz]

Gonna post the OG Vanity Fair article about the castings

Superman Legacy Cast Adds Isabela Merced, Edi Gathegi and Nathan Fillion: EXCLUSIVE
Here's how their new heroes fit in to James Gunn and Peter Safran's reset of the DC Universe…

BY ANTHONY BREZNICAN
JULY 11, 2023

Superman Legacy, the movie that will mark the live-action rebirth of the DC Universe, has added three new actors to its cast, each of them playing a superhero with a long history in the comic books. Isabela Merced will play Hawkgirl, Edi Gathegi will be Mister Terrific and Nathan Fillion will portray a Green Lantern (although not necessarily the Green Lantern.)

James Gunn, who wrote and will direct the 2025 movie, has already cast David Corenswet (The Politician) as Clark Kent and The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel star Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane. When it starts shooting in January 2024, it will set the course for the new DCU that the Guardians of the Galaxy filmmaker is building in collaboration with fellow chair and CEO of DC Studios Peter Safran.

In an exclusive to Vanity Fair, DC Studios revealed the new additions: Merced, best known for playing the besieged drug cartel daughter in Sicario: Day of the Soldado and the ever-exploring title character in Dora and the Lost City of Gold, will soar into the new universe as the winged warrior Hawkgirl. The hero's favorite battle accessories are melee weapons—swords, spears, and maces—and Merced's 5-foot-1 size will set her apart from the typical comic book brawler.

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Gathegi, who played the double-dealing vampire Laurent in the Twilight films and the ever-evolving Darwin in X-Men: First Class, will take on the role of Mister Terrific, a.k.a. Michael Holt, who is not only a skilled combatant but one of the world's most brilliant inventors and tacticians, orbited by the floating T-Sphere weapons he designed. Among his superpowers is his otherworldly intellect. On the sleeve of his jacket is the phrase “Fair Play,” a tribute to the catchphrase of an earlier version of the Mister Terrific character as well as a statement of belief.

Finally, Fillion—a mainstay of Gunn's movies who starred in the director's first movie, the 2006 horror-comedy Slither, and his most recent one, Marvel Studios' Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, will join him again in Superman Legacy as a Green Lantern named Guy Gardner.

Comic fans primarily think of two primary characters in relation to the Green Lantern mantle. Hal Jordan was the original version of the comic book hero (played by Ryan Reynolds in the 2011 movie). The next iteration of the green glowing protector was named John Stewart, notable when he was introduced in the early ‘70s for being one of DC’s earliest and most prominent Black superheroes. Gardner, the character Fillion will play in Superman Legacy, is distinct from both of them for being somewhat less than heroic when he wears the matter-manifesting ring that gives the Green Lantern his powers.

Among the rest of the aliens and humans who serve in that group of galactic peacekeepers, Gardner is known as an abrasive, sometimes obnoxious presence. The role also brings a dose of awkward comedy to Superman Legacy. The character is known for his iconic bowl cut haircut, which will be a part of Fillion's look in the film.

While there is also a Green Lantern TV series in the works as part of the rebooted DCU, that one will focus on Hal Jordan and John Stewart.

Fillion previously played a DC character in Gunn's The Suicide Squad known as T.D.K., or The Detachable Kid, whose powers consisted of the ability to separate his limbs from his body and telekinetically launch them at his enemies. T.D.K.—spoiler alert—didn't survive for very long in that movie. So there's no danger of the actor's duel roles ever crossing paths.

That raises the enduring question of what DC movies and TV shows from the past will end, and which will be woven into the new slate of storytelling. While Superman Legacy is the first movie in the rejuvenated DCU, the first project in the new universe will be an animated series for the Max streaming service called Creature Commandos.

Some characters from Gunn's previous DC work on The Suicide Squad will be grandfathered in to the new universe, such as Viola Davis' powerbroker Amanda Waller, who is getting her own TV series, and John Cena's Peacemaker, who was introduced in that movie and went on to star in his own self-titled TV show. A second season of Peacemaker will be part of the new DCU.

Gunn and Safran are selecting elements that will carry over, mostly based on actors. For instance, Gunn has said that Cobra Kai actor Xolo Maridueña, who stars in the upcoming Blue Beetle movie, will continue playing the character in the new DCU, but that upcoming movie will stand on its own.

The new leadership of DC Studios has stated that their overall goal is accessibility that allows viewers to go into any of the future movies and shows without the need for deep binge-watching research. “The good news is, if you've seen nothing that we've done before, you can watch Superman Legacy, you can watch Creature Commandos, you can watch Peacemaker season two, and you can watch Blue Beetle. All of that," Safran tells Vanity Fair. “We are trying to minimize audience confusion and maximize their enjoyment.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/07/superman-legacy-cast#intcid=_vanity-fair-verso-hp-trending_be0a5124-be3d-49da-befc-9d317449fe04_popular4-1

[CyberCubed]

I know given Gunns track record I shouldn't be concerned, but starting off a new Superman with a whole bunch of superheroes thrown in as well feels weird to me. I know this isn't year one Superman, but still I would prefer he stand on his own.

[Autbot_Benz]

Add Metamorpho to this movie

https://collider.com/superman-legacy-cast-anthony-carrigan-metamorpho/

the shapeshifting Metamorpho will grace the big screen, where he’ll be portrayed by Barry’s Anthony Carrigan, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

[CyberCubed]

I really don't think shoving a bunch of C-list superheroes into Superman's debut movie is a good idea, but who knows.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/HKTsIC4.jpg

James on the addition of all these Heroes

[CyberCubed]

Still feels unnecessary. And if all these other heroes like Hawkgirl, Mr. Terrific, Guy and Metamorpho are only in a few scenes, what's the point in having them at all?

[Dpooly84]

Still feels unnecessary. And if all these other heroes like Hawkgirl, Mr. Terrific, Guy and Metamorpho are only in a few scenes, what's the point in having them at all?

To establish that a universe with all these characters already exists, I would presume.

[Coola Yagami]

I feel very confused as to what the story for this is even going to be.

[Andrew NDB]

I hope it's a full-scale Brainiac attack, requiring many heroes to work together with Superman taking the lead.

[ZariusTwo]

I hope it's a full-scale Brainiac attack, requiring many heroes to work together with Superman taking the lead.

Panic In The Sky is one of the best 90s crossover stories, hoping it's that.

I really don't think shoving a bunch of C-list superheroes into Superman's debut movie is a good idea, but who knows.

Fun fact: The comic book version of Death of Superman is full of C-list heroes.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/sERV66x.png

[Autbot_Benz]

EXCLUSIVE: María Gabriela de Faría, the Venezuelan actress best known for roles in Fox comedies Animal Control and The Moodys, has landed a breakout part on the film side, joining the cast of James Gunn’s Superman: Legacy.

Her character is Angela Spica aka The Engineer. Part of the Warner/DC flick’s villain team, Angie’s powers stem from nanotechnology built into her body. Created by Warren Ellis and Bryan Hitch, she’s the second DC character to bear the name of The Engineer and was first introduced in The Authority vol.1 #1 in 1999.

https://deadline.com/2023/11/superman-legacy-maria-gabriela-de-faria-villain-role-1235612761/#recipient_hashed=d0283a1bba933056df855a79b27212d8 d9d484399087dbfbe4ed575e79a09217&recipient_salt=2802b2d2ebf20dae33bbeded5d3314aae93 101e7f71be88f1b1312ff4a6a93b9

[Autbot_Benz]

EXCLUSIVE: We hear that James Gunn has found his Lex Luthor in British actor Nicholas Hoult, several sources tell us.

A movie star was always eyed for this role after Gunn selected fresh face David Corenswet in the title role, and Emmy winner Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane.

https://deadline.com/2023/11/nicholas-hoult-superman-legacy-lex-luther-1235630393/

[Andrew NDB]

Hoult as Lex? I'm fine with it. Plus he's just a couple years older than Cornerswet, which is "just about right," IMO. The people calling for someone like Bryan Cranston for Lex who's almost in his 70s are insane.

[Barkworm]

The casting for this film continues to be interesting. I'm intrigued.

[Autbot_Benz]

Skyler Gisondo, known for his work on HBO’s The Righteous Gemstones, has been cast as Jimmy Olsen, the boyish cub photographer at The Daily Planet who works alongside Clark Kent and Lois Lane.


At the same time, Sara Sampaio, the Portugese model known for her Victoria’s Secret work, has been cast as Eve Teschmacher,




https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-legacy-casts-skyler-gisondo-jimmy-olsen-1235645745/

[CyberCubed]

Jimmy Olsen is white again, thank God.

Why is Miss Teschmacher in this, wasn't she a creation of the old movies? They could have used Mercy.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Who doesn’t wanna hear Lex yell “MISSSSSSS Teschmacher!!!”

[Andrew NDB]

Who doesn’t wanna hear Lex yell “MISSSSSSS Teschmacher!!!”

I really don't.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I really don't.

Unless it’s Gene Hackman lol

[Andrew NDB]

Unless it’s Gene Hackman lol

Even then. No ham, please. Kind of like there not being any way to take Oroku Saki seriously when he willingly surrounds himself with dimwits in the Fred Wolf show and other children's stuff, there isn't any way to take Lex seriously as a genius bad guy if he's willingly surrounding himself with people like her and Otis. But it's probably a throwaway thing here.

[CyberCubed]

I trust James Gunn will make a good movie, but he's really bloating the movie with tons of unneccessary characters. I know most of them will probably only be in a scene or two, but it's weird to be flooding the first Superman movie with them. All you really need is Superman, Lois, Jimmy, the main villain, and Clark's parents and that's about it.

[chad]

[QUOTE][The search for Supergirl is one step closer to completion.

Screen tests for the role took place yesterday, according to several sources, with the field now narrowed to two actresses.

Milly Alcock, best known for her work on HBO’s Game of Thrones spinoff House of the Dragon as Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen, and Meg Donnelly, who starred in Disney Channel’s hit musical franchise Zombies and who voices the character in recent and current DC animated movies, both tested in Atlanta, per sources. DC Studios bosses James Gunn and Peter Safran were present.

Supergirl is a key part of Gunn and Safran’s plans as they piece together their slate for DC Studios. Warner Bros. Discovery hired the duo in late 2022 to reset the path for Warners’ movies focused on DC Comics characters.

Supergirl, who would headline her own movie, Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow after being introduced in Gunn’s own Superman movie, Superman: Legacy, is a key component of that plan

/QUOTE]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/supergirl-casting-milly-alcock-meg-donnelly-1235806025/

[Andrew NDB]

Alcock has my vote. Plus she'd be a little bit more believable as a relative of Corenswet than the other one.

[Autbot_Benz]

Alcock has my vote. Plus she'd be a little bit more believable as a relative of Corenswet than the other one.

You are in luck Alcock has been cast as Supergirl

https://deadline.com/2024/01/supergirl-milly-alcock-1235807989/

House of the Dragon Australian actress Milly Alcock has landed the highly coveted role of Supergirl in James Gunn and Peter Safran’s new DC Universe.

Alcock played the young Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen in HBO’s first season of Game of Thrones spinoff House of the Dragon. She is repped by CAA, Shanahan Management, Entertainment 360 and Curtis Brown.

Alcock beat out CODA actress Emilia Jones and Meg Donnelly, the latter who voiced Supergirl in such DC animated movies Legion of Superheroes and Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths Part One.

[IMJ]

Starting to feel a little cluttered. Especially launching this thing with a series of "universe cameos". Once the dreams of fans everywhere and now the absolute bane of telling a solid solo superhero movie.

I dunno.... we'll see.

[Autbot_Benz]

Official look at the Superman Logo on Superman's birthday no less

https://i.imgur.com/1KzFbJG.jpeg

The movie is now called Superman not Superman Legacy

https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1763320163846557718/photo/1

[Andrew NDB]

So it IS the Kingdom Come symbol -- the rumors were correct. I guess we can expect trunks then.

[Autbot_Benz]

Wendell Pierce is Perry White
https://i.imgur.com/JKKTDhW.jpeg

Great Caesar’s Ghost, Perry White has been found.

Wendell Pierce, perhaps best known for his work as a detective on HBO’s seminal crime series The Wire, has been cast as the iconic editor-in-chief of the Daily Planet in James Gunn’s Superman.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-casts-wendell-pierce-as-perry-white-1235840790/

[CyberCubed]

Two Perry Black white's in a row after Laurence Fishburne? I guess it's better than Jimmy Olsen at least.

[Andrew NDB]

It's true. Once you race-swap to black once, there's no going back. Look at April.

[Xav]

Not true. Jimmy Olson was black in the Supergirl series and he's white again. Or look at Johnny Storm he was black in the last FF4 film and white in the new one. Also April is white again in Fortnite.

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/zV7M2b5/FB-IMG-1709400654392.jpg

* Guy is decently buff. Not a beast. And he may be going light on "leg day." He's sort of right in the middle between the Routh and Cavill physiques.

* Don't care for the return of the underwear. Others and Bryan Singer will probably love it for some reason.

* Don't care for the Kingdom Come symbol. Why here? Why now? It's like putting a contemporary Batman in bright warm colors but giving him the Dark Knight Returns symbol.

* I like that the wrist cuffs are normal. Nothing is jutting out to where it wouldn't work wearing under his Clark Kent clothes, which the Snyder suit didn't seem to care about.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.ibb.co/zV7M2b5/FB-IMG-1709400654392.jpg

* Guy is decently buff. Not a beast. And he may be going light on "leg day." He's sort of right in the middle between the Routh and Cavill physiques.

* Don't care for the return of the underwear. Others and Bryan Singer will probably love it for some reason.

* Don't care for the Kingdom Come symbol. Why here? Why now? It's like putting a contemporary Batman in bright warm colors but giving him the Dark Knight Returns symbol.

* I like that the wrist cuffs are normal. Nothing is jutting out to where it wouldn't work wearing under his Clark Kent clothes, which the Snyder suit didn't seem to care about.

That pic is a FAKE. it was debunked by James Gunn

https://i.imgur.com/tEgzHVC.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

That pic is a FAKE. it was debunked by James Gunn

https://i.imgur.com/tEgzHVC.jpeg

Damn, really? It had me going.

[Autbot_Benz]

We have our Pa Kent and this one hopefully won't tell Clark to let a bunch of kids die maybe.

Pa Kent will be played by Pruitt Taylor Vince

https://i.imgur.com/T9KrUsE.jpeg

https://deadline.com/2024/04/superman-pruitt-taylor-vince-1235887615/

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/0DAch7C.png

[CyberCubed]

At least they're both white. I was getting worried for awhile with Perry White being Perry Black.

[Autbot_Benz]

Official look at the Superman suit

https://i.imgur.com/MnWOKqG.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

Too thick, too baggy, and I hate the collar.

[ZariusTwo]

I don 't think it'll be 'edgy' but the pose gives me a hint it'll be a touchy feely 'everyman' deconstruction

[Andrew NDB]

It already fails the basic Superman costume test. Can he wear it under his clothes as Clark Kent? If the answer is no then it's bullsh**.

[frank_one]

Not a good costume. It looks like it was designed for an actor with bigger shoulders. All those wrinkles should not be there.

[Andrew NDB]

Not a good costume. It looks like it was designed for an actor with bigger shoulders.

Exactly. It does the one thing it shouldn't do -- it makes Superman's arms look tiny.

Honestly, I don't like anything about that costume. The collar is stupid (and is ALWAYS stupid, and nonsensical for Superman), underwear on the outside is stupid, the material looks way too thick (and over-designed like the Cavill suit), it doesn't appear fitted well to him, the cape material looks too thick, and Kingdom Come symbol just because... Kingdom Come? Dumb.

[Galactus]

Maybe it's Kryptonian nanotech like the New 52 suit was eventually portrayed to be. I think that or him quickly zipping to were he's stashed his suit and back again would be fine. The idea of most heroes fitting any kind of costume underneath their civilian clothes has always been a suspension of disbelief thing and with Superman it's pretty big one given his cape.

My issue is with the look being an odd mix. Clearly it's very New 52 inspired but has the traditional belt and trunks. Like one aspect heavily signals modern, edgy and not your daddy's Superman and the other that it's ultra traditional, wholesome and very much your daddy's Superman.

[Andrew NDB]

The idea of most heroes fitting any kind of costume underneath their civilian clothes has always been a suspension of disbelief thing and with Superman it's pretty big one given his cape.

But its iconic with him. The imagery of him ripping his shirt open to see the "S," etc..

[Galactus]

But its iconic with him. The imagery of him ripping his shirt open to see the "S," etc..

I imagine they will either ditch that and maybe even do a little nod and a wink to the audience about it being unrealistic like the the Donner movie did with him not being able to change in a phone booth.

Or if it is tech based they could do the shirt rip and we see the suit forming as he's doing it. If I remember correctly they did that in the comics a few times once the writers made up their minds what exactly the New 52 suit was.

[IMJ]

I think they were going for some kind of "identifiable everyman" Superman with that promo shot. Like he puts his shoes on one foot at a time like the rest of us or something, which I suppose could account for the "normalcy" of the costume - hence the wrinkles at the shoulders.

I dunno. Not defending it, just identifying a possible art direction.

I'd be 100% fine with this and happy to see some more Superman if the sting of the entire Henry Cavil thing wasn't there. I dunno.

[Andrew NDB]

Or if it is tech based they could do the shirt rip and we see the suit forming as he's doing it.

Is that what we want, though? A "tech-based" Superman suit? Like we almost got in the Nic Cage movie?

I'd be 100% fine with this and happy to see some more Superman if the sting of the entire Henry Cavil thing wasn't there. I dunno.

What makes it worse is that if you squint a little bit... the guy looks like a somewhat younger Cavil.

[Galactus]

Is that what we want, though? A "tech-based" Superman suit? Like we almost got in the Nic Cage movie?.

Not really but I'm just speculating on what it could be like. I think nano suit is less likely than them simply not showing any quick changes. The image itself seems to suggest a slow suit up as he gears himself up for a final battle.

[frank_one]

My understanding is that this is just a set photo with some background quickly put together. Maybe it will be better in the movie.

[Andrew NDB]

My understanding is that this is just a set photo with some background quickly put together. Maybe it will be better in the movie.

That's my general assumption. Though it might have been snapped on the actual set while his costume was dirtied. Like between takes or shots, "Hey! I got an idea for a promo thing. Sit here and act like you're putting on a boot."

That globe out the window wonders if my big hope is a possibility : Warworld and Mongul.

[Autbot_Benz]

Better look at the Superman Suit and Mr Terrific

https://i.imgur.com/3qnSlQ1.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/du0PZR9.jpeg

https://x.com/clevelanddotcom/status/1805282813538607454/photo/2

[Andrew NDB]

Better look at the Superman Suit and Mr Terrific

https://i.imgur.com/3qnSlQ1.jpeg


Aw man... that doesn't look good at all. That's even worse than how that promo image made him look. He looks lost in that suit and not jacked at all. But it's probably the suit.

[frank_one]

It looks like a pajamas.

[Andrew NDB]

I can't even think of one thing I like about that suit. It's too thick and baggy looking, the symbol is too small and wrong, I don't like underwear on the outside, I don't like how the cape connects to the suit and the collar looks stupid and impractical.

[Autbot_Benz]

we get the S on the cape again

https://i.imgur.com/8QyNufI.jpeg

[BornAgain]

Need to see it in post production and with the tone of the trailer for context. Not for or against yet. I think the Snyder suit is gorgeous but I like the brighter, traditional colors too.

If the fit is loose then they are probably trying to capture a bit of that “All Star Superman” feel.

Anyway, first up on the “D-list slate”, here’s the most popular superhero of all time. Don’t turn this into a joke, James Gunn. I think he’s actually pretty good at capturing emotional moments though so I hope he leans into that.

[Autbot_Benz]

First look at Clark Kent

https://i.imgur.com/nH3QeVg.jpeg

[Barkworm]

Is the new suit supposed to look so baggy? Could this be story-related in any way?

[IMJ]

Is the new suit supposed to look so baggy? Could this be story-related in any way?

Everytime I see it in these shots I feel like it's some cosplayer who bought one of those fabric Halloween Costumes with the muscles sewn in. I have one here but it's Iron Man and it's hysterical. I'm sure it will translate better on-camera somehow, but.... yeah.

Between the costume and the Clark Kent hairstyle I am getting some Frank Quitely All-Star Superman vibes.

[Xav]

I can't even think of one thing I like about that suit. It's too thick and baggy looking, the symbol is too small and wrong, I don't like underwear on the outside, I don't like how the cape connects to the suit and the collar looks stupid and impractical.So what would your ideal Superman suit look like than?

[Andrew NDB]

Anyway, first up on the “D-list slate”

Just couldn't help himself, could he? smdh...

So what would your ideal Superman suit look like than?

I don't think we've ever really seen it. I'm mostly happy with the Cavill suit when they enbrightened the colors on it, but I still don't think it's what a Superman suit should look like. It's got to be something he can wear under his clothes, IMO, so it needs to be some kind of thin material. Not spandex, of course -- it can be a little more alien-like. Beyond that just like how Dan Jurgens would draw it with a great big classic symbol on his chest (I don't care either way if on the cape)... but with no underwear on the outside. I'm torn on what to do in the belt area without the trunks since you end up with just a lot of space there, but I think the Cavill suit did a fine job in that way.

* No cufflinks jutting out past the wrists.

* No collar whatsoever.

And I don't understand how people are seeing Quitely or "All Star Superman" in the huge bagginess here. The Quitely suit wasn't baggy, and certainly not anything like this. It's just the New52 suit, but with baggy, loose rubber.

[Barkworm]

Everytime I see it in these shots I feel like it's some cosplayer who bought one of those fabric Halloween Costumes with the muscles sewn in. I have one here but it's Iron Man and it's hysterical. I'm sure it will translate better on-camera somehow, but.... yeah.

Between the costume and the Clark Kent hairstyle I am getting some Frank Quitely All-Star Superman vibes.

How does the costume look like Frank Quitely to you?

[IMJ]

How does the costume look like Frank Quitely to you?

In the spirit of the conversation about the "fit" of the suit.

While Quietly obviously drew a "big guy" in the super-suit, his lines give an implication of a loose fitting cloth that wrinkles and bends whereas other artists have often drawn Superman as a muscular "nude" wearing a suit that shows more muscle when he is moving. It's very discreet but I tagged a couple quick grabs with orange arrows to show where the lines that convey this show up...

https://i.imgur.com/zNZSYCBl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GYRnfFpl.jpg

And so Quietly's "looser fit" via discreet lines seems to fit in a bit with the images we are seeing from the Gunn flick.... This as opposed to basically any image of Superman from someone like Dan Jurgens who shows "muscle shadow" rather than cloth.

I also see it a bit in the image we have of Clark Kent and his haircut too.

[Barkworm]

Ah, I see. That does make sense. But Quitely‘s Superman still looks buff while this guy looks rather lost in the suit. The first official picture (the one where he was putting on his boots) makes it look like there might be an emphasis on how tough the job is so I‘m still wondering if the baggy look is by design.

But anyway, I‘m not a fan of it.

[Andrew NDB]

Definitely lost in the suit. Which is weird. I've seen the media posts about him working out and looking pretty big. This suit does him a disservice, unless he somehow shrunk between times.

[MikeandRaph87]

First Zod becomes Doomsday and now Ultaman becomes Bizarro. As few Superman foes that have appeared onscreen why merge them? I understand that origin ms are different in films, but folding separate characters together doesn't work for me. Not official for Ultraman devolving into Bizarro, but that is what it looks like.
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/superman-2025-ultraman-rumor-superman-iii

[IMJ]

First Zod becomes Doomsday and now Ultaman becomes Bizarro. As few Superman foes that have appeared onscreen why merge them? I understand that origin ms are different in films, but folding separate characters together doesn't work for me. Not official for Ultraman devolving into Bizarro, but that is what it looks like.
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/superman-2025-ultraman-rumor-superman-iii

It's like when they inexplicably merged Whiplash and the Crimson Dynamo in Iron Man 2. Literally made no sense to do that at all - the story wouldn't have changed at all... :lol: -waits for someone to argue this-

[Barkworm]

It's like when they inexplicably merged Whiplash and the Crimson Dynamo in Iron Man 2. Literally made no sense to do that at all - the story wouldn't have changed at all... :lol: -waits for someone to argue this-

I hated Iron Man 2 so much for a variety of reasons, the one you mentioned was a lesser problem.

[Andrew NDB]

Is it bad that I wish there was at least Marvel movies as good as Iron Man 2 these days? Or across the board CBM wise? Like Shazam 2 or Blue Beetle or Black Adam wasn't even as good as Iron Man 2.

[Barkworm]

Live-Action wise I might agree. Overall though, I don't know. I watched the second Miles Morales-Spider-Man last week and I thought it was fantastic.

[Autbot_Benz]

First look at Guy Gardner and Hawkgirl

https://i.imgur.com/hAHmbOY.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/4XwFCZC.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

wtf... that's their Green Lantern costume? And it's like 80% white? That's awful.

[ZariusTwo]

Looks like one of those jackets they were in the Power Rangers Shattered Past fanfilms

[Andrew NDB]

It looks like Green Lantern: Earth One will be the visual inspiration for this. Which was awful.

[IMJ]

All the years the fanbase wanted Nathan Fillion as GL - perfect casting for decades.

And now they do it, and of all the Lanterns to make him it's Guy Gardner?!?! And... in that outfit?!?

:roll:

[Autbot_Benz]

Superman and Krypto

https://i.imgur.com/KqdAa4K.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

About 5 people are right now going, "Yay! Krypto!" and the rest of the world is going, "Wtf is this?! A Superdog?"

[Coola Yagami]

wtf... that's their Green Lantern costume? And it's like 80% white? That's awful.

It's probably cause the suit will be green cgi. You think they'd learn from the Ryan Reynolds movie....

[sdp]

I really didn't care about this movie at all but seeing Krypto on it..I'm kind of sold. I still think it'll bomb but it looks like it'll be a fun DC Universe Superman story. I'm getting All Star Superman vibes except without superman dying. But like a tribute to who the character is.

About 5 people are right now going, "Yay! Krypto!" and the rest of the world is going, "Wtf is this?! A Superdog?"

the kids who grew up with this cartoon are in their late 20s and 30s now.
https://www.diversetechgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/krypto_the_superdog_cast.jpg

spoiler alert it was a great show

[Autbot_Benz]

I'm getting All Star Superman vibes except without superman dying. But like a tribute to who the character is.


That's what James Gunn is using for the basis of this movie

[ZariusTwo]

About 5 people are right now going, "Yay! Krypto!" and the rest of the world is going, "Wtf is this?! A Superdog?"

Krypto's appeared in live-action before, he was in Titans

[Coola Yagami]

This movie seems to be making the same mistake as the previous DCU, skipping proper intros and just having these superheroes exist from the getgo. Instead of Superman Legacy they might as well have called it JL Legacy or something. How more cameos or characters are we expected to get into this thing? And why not just make it.... a movie about Superman?

I feel the people think Superman as-is is boring and they have to throw in some sort of extra hook to bring people in. And that's a shame.

[Andrew NDB]

It's not Superman: Legacy. The subtitle was dropped over a year ago.

[ZariusTwo]

And nobody complained when the MCU skipped Peter Parker's origin.

Hell, Black Widow and Hawkeye didn't get origins when they were introduced in Avengers. Natasha had to wait until her last movie to get an origin.

[Andrew NDB]

And nobody complained when the MCU skipped Peter Parker's origin.


A lot of people complained when they never bothered to go back and fill it in. The general understanding/handshake was that, "OK, cool, we're not getting the Uncle Ben/'with great power,' etc. thing out of the gate, great, we don't need it... but eventually they HAVE to circle back to that, right?"

But they never did. Then made it Aunt May. Weird.

[ZariusTwo]

Eve Ridely cast in Supergirl

https://deadline.com/2024/10/supergirl-eve-ridley-1236163825/

[CyberCubed]

Supergirl is Asian? I hope her hair is dyed blonde at least.

[Autbot_Benz]

Supergirl is Asian? I hope her hair is dyed blonde at least.

no Supergirl isn't Asian Milly Alcock was cast as Supergirl :roll:

[Autbot_Benz]

Looks like we are getting the trailer this week.

media is seeing it tomorrow

https://x.com/screentime/status/1868415912396968157

https://i.imgur.com/BcCJ0Nm.jpeg

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/LPkajXO.jpeg

Teaser Trailer this Thursday

“James Gunn takes on the original superhero in the newly imagined DC universe with a singular blend of epic action, humor and heart, delivering a SUPERMAN who’s driven by compassion and an inherent belief in the goodness of humankind.”

All the bolded text is what Man Of Steel lacked

[ZariusTwo]

Details on the teaser screened to the press:

Krypto takes Supes back to the Fortress after he's injured, there's a battle in a stadium, Johnathan Kent is alive, crowds hating Superman, third-world country raising a Superman flag, montage of Lex, Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner, and Lois, and all the while a rock guitar version of the Williams score is playing

[Andrew NDB]

It's possible Gunn will nail it. But if he does, it'll be a kind of project he's never done before.

[CyberCubed]

This better be good. We need a real good Superman movie for the next next generation. Like for the next 10 years at least.

Blows my mind Man of Steel is now over a decade old.

[ZariusTwo]

New teaser but with footage

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[Andrew NDB]

What is that at 00:18? Is that a dude or a chick?

[Barkworm]

You seem a little obsessed with some stuff, you know?

[Andrew NDB]

You seem a little obsessed with some stuff, you know?

Ah yes, the "You know, I noticed you noticed" maneuver. Typical leftie move.

[Barkworm]

Whatever makes you happy.

[ToTheNines]

What is that at 00:18? Is that a dude or a chick?

A chick. I fu***d her.

[Coola Yagami]

Relax Andrew. Girls with regular (not shaved) short hair and small boobs exist.

[CyberCubed]

Is it just me or is it some of those pedestrians are blending in with the background? Or too much "bloom" around them or whatever that's called? The lighting goes over them.

[IMJ]

A teaser for a teaser. :roll:

Looking forward to seeing more. Gunn can definitely pull off a Superman flick with the right tone.

[ToTheNines]

This is borderline off topic and has surely been said before, but imagine a James Gunn TMNT movie. Especially one focusing on Fugitoid/Utroms/Triceratons.

[ZariusTwo]

uhUht6vAsMY

[ToTheNines]

Not gonna lie, looks really good.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Yeah, the trailer was pretty well done. And the suit looks much better here than what was shown on the teaser images. This might be good!

[Autbot_Benz]

looks fantastic

[Andrew NDB]

Trailer is fine. Minor quibble: I'd have preferred not to see Superman beaten and bloodied and see more triumphant flying/soaring around kind of stuff. But that's just me.

This is borderline off topic and has surely been said before, but imagine a James Gunn TMNT movie. Especially one focusing on Fugitoid/Utroms/Triceratons.

Actually yeah. I wouldn't mind a Gunn TMNT movie at all. He actually seems uniquely suited to it, the more that I think about it.

[CyberCubed]

Was it known Krypto would be in this? What I don't like is the trailer is following the same story beats of the public not trusting Superman and him helping middle eastern kids and then getting beaten up and falling in Antartica. I thought Gunn was going for a more uplifting Superman.

[Andrew NDB]

Was it known Krypto would be in this?

Of course. He was on the damn poster months ago.

[IMJ]

It looks equal parts fun and fan-filmish to be honest. I hope it's great, but the costume isn't doing it for me and opening the trailer up that way wasn't the best idea.

I'm hoping this is more like GOTG 2 than GOTG 3. Honestly, GOTG 2 was James Gunn's only "masterpiece" movie.

[Andrew NDB]

and opening the trailer up that way wasn't the best idea.

Right? It just seems like a weird choice. I'm not saying I mind that it's in the movie or anything, and I'm sure it'll make sense... but in the first trailer? Why lead with that?

The costume and the actor looking like a skinnier, Wish version of Henry Cavill (which I know probably isn't fair to the actor, but it's true) are my biggest gripes. And yeah, Superman laying around bloody and beaten.

[ToTheNines]

It’s a pretty common normie complaint that Superman can’t get hurt, so I’m sure this is kind of a response to that. They also did an incredible job (just based off this) of making Clark Kent look like a dweeb that no one would suspect is Superman, so it seems like they’re cutting all that kind of stuff off at the pass.

And I’m sure we’ll see him rise to the occasion and overcome whoever was beating his ass.

[Coola Yagami]

I guess the big question is what exactly can hit Superman that hard.

But the other question is... if you got guys like Green Lantern, Hawkman and Mr. Terrific flying around... how exactly is Superman a big deal again?

It's weird cause the trailer is making it look like it's this awesome amazing sight to see this man, this superman, fly across the skies. In a world where other flying people already exist.

[Barkworm]

There were a lot of cool bits in the trailer but it is still a bit strange how David Corenswet as Superman looks so small in many shots even though he is probably the tallest guy to play him so far. Seeing how Clark looks really tall when he enters the Daily Planet building and the opening with Superman all bloodied up (and him just looking depressed in every shot and the first poster) make me think that they are focusing on him being vulnerable both physically and mentally. Which I‘m not really a fan of.

Apart from that, my biggest nitpick is that really cool looking part where he is about to punch something and you get all excited… and then he shatters some glass.

[Andrew NDB]

I guess the big question is what exactly can hit Superman that hard.

Mongul or Brainiac and I'd be happy with either. Though supposedly it's Ultraman from Earth-3, who is basically just cardboard "Evil Superman." I hope that rumor is FAKE.

There were a lot of cool bits in the trailer but it is still a bit strange how David Corenswet as Superman looks so small in many shots even though he is probably the tallest guy to play him so far.

Yeah, he looks tiny. Lost in that damn costume.

[Barkworm]

But as I said, starting with the first poster it looks like they are doing this on purpose. I don‘t like it at all but it seems intentional.

[Coola Yagami]

Mongul or Brainiac and I'd be happy with either. Though supposedly it's Ultraman from Earth-3, who is basically just cardboard "Evil Superman." I hope that rumor is FAKE.



I feel it would be too early to introduce Ultraman in the first movie. Like let people know this version of Superman first to better differentiate an evil version from the multiverse.

If they do so, I assume Ultraman would be played by the same guy?

[TigerClaw]

This is borderline off topic and has surely been said before, but imagine a James Gunn TMNT movie. Especially one focusing on Fugitoid/Utroms/Triceratons.
The Mutants and all the outworldly stuff from TMNT would be something that would suit James Gunn really well..

[CyberCubed]

It's weird to think this is only the 4th live action Superman movie actor after the originals, Superman Returns and Zack Snyders Superman/DCEU. It feels like we should have more probably because people think of TV with Smallvile, Lois and Clark, and the recent Superman spinoff of Supergirl.

[Stu_Padasso]

It probably goes without saying that my personal sensibilities are more in line with someone like Christopher Nolan or Micheal Mann than someone like James Gunn, but I guess I have to be the dissenting opinion and say they lost me after Krypto.

I will agree that Man Of Steel should have had a lighter and more optimistic tone and that they went way overboard with all the destruction in the last act, and that Zack Snyder may not have been the best choice to helm the DCEU, but this is an over correction.

It’s as if someone said, “Do you want to what would have made The Dark Knight better? If Batman had a twelve year old boy as a sidekick in a bright red and yellow tights! And at the end, they join the Super-Friends, uh, I mean, Justice League!”

I know I’m late to the game, but a lot that I’m finding about Superman and Lois is more up my alley.

Not gonna lie, if it includes the jumper scene from All Star Superman, I’ll probably bawl my eyes out. But Gunn has always been a bit emotionally manipulative.

It’s a pretty common normie complaint that Superman can’t get hurt, so I’m sure this is kind of a response to that…

And I’m sure we’ll see him rise to the occasion and overcome whoever was beating his ass.
What they don’t understand is that if Superman was truly unbeatable, there would be no stakes.

[IMJ]

It’s a pretty common normie complaint that Superman can’t get hurt, so I’m sure this is kind of a response to that.

No. It' just an observation that your introduction to Superman in this film is in that condition. Not even close to a "complaint". Actually I think the movie opens with this scene..

[Andrew NDB]

No. It' just an observation that your introduction to Superman in this film is in that condition. Not even close to a "complaint". Actually I think the movie opens with this scene..

Probably. BOOM, knocked out of the sky. Audiences: "What happened? Who did that to him?" Then it rewinds a couple of days or whatever.

[ToTheNines]

No. It' just an observation that your introduction to Superman in this film is in that condition. Not even close to a "complaint". Actually I think the movie opens with this scene..

That’s not at all what I’m saying.

I’m saying your average causal superhero fan “doesn’t really like Superman” because he “can’t get hurt”. So I’m theorizing that this film is putting it right out in front of the first teaser to advertise to the general audience that he CAN get hurt.

[Barkworm]

That is most likely what they are trying to do, they are going for a 'vulnerable hero' angle. But that's not really what I want from a Superman film.

[Andrew NDB]

That is most likely what they are trying to do, they are going for a 'vulnerable hero' angle. But that's not really what I want from a Superman film.

Not the first one out of the gate, at least. And certainly not from a marketing standpoint, IMHO. Eventually we can get to Doomsday and all of that stuff, but that's later on.

[Barkworm]

At the same time, they are going for a cheerful vibe with the Williams score, the colours and elements like Krypto. But Superman himself is doom and gloom in every shot.

[Coola Yagami]

It's sad the world has gotten so dreary that the audience at large just can't accept a happy and hopeful Superman and that's why they're always forced to go dark and gloomy.

[ToTheNines]

Can we also be thankful that we didn’t get another FAKE Lex Luthor?

[IMJ]

It's sad the world has gotten so dreary that the audience at large just can't accept a happy and hopeful Superman and that's why they're always forced to go dark and gloomy.

I said earlier that Gunn's only "great" movie was GOTG 2 but with that said all of his movies have "heart". I think this one will touch on the core of Superman enough and audiences will turn out for it.

My biggest gripe is that costume and it's fit, though. By comparison,Cavill really brought that awesome "Dan Jurgens" look to life on screen.

[Coola Yagami]

I mean it's Superman. People are gonna see it regardless. I'm sure even Superman Returns did well opening night until word of mouth got around.

[Andrew NDB]

I thought Slither was good. But surprisingly forgettable. I couldn't even tell you what happens in it anymore.

[ZariusTwo]

Made this for a bit of fun

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[member_removed]

I mean it's Superman. People are gonna see it regardless. I'm sure even Superman Returns did well opening night until word of mouth got around.

Superman Returns also had the lead weight of the past 8 years of failed reboots attached to its budget. All the Tim Burton, Kevin Smith, Nic Cage failed ********.

[Barkworm]

I haven't seen Superman Returns since it was released but single scenes I've rewatched aren't bad. Routh did a decent Reeves impersonation, chanelling that cheerful vibe and his Superman was shown as truly powerful and majestic.

[member_removed]

I haven't seen Superman Returns since it was released but single scenes I've rewatched aren't bad. Routh did a decent Reeves impersonation, chanelling that cheerful vibe and his Superman was shown as truly powerful and majestic.

The Plane rescue scene was incredible, on first watch it gave me high hopes for the rest of the movie. Sadly it was all down hill after that.

Routh was outstanding. Near perfect Superman and Perfect Clark, I actually think he did a better job as Clark than Reeves.

I was hopeful for a sequel, when Singer claimed he would "Wrath of Khan" it.

Anyway, with what we now know of Singer and Spacey, I wouldn't be surprised if they Eiffel towered Routh on the casting couch.

[ZariusTwo]

New TV Spot. Mostly same footage, but couple of new shots of Lex and Supes

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[CyberCubed]

Given Gunn's track record this should be good, but there's so much "warning signs" in those trailers. Superman being distrusted by the public again, a giant monster/kaiju fight that's likely just going to take up a lot of time, etc. And of course the inclusion of a whole bunch of superheroes like Hawkgirl, Guy Gardner, Mr. Terrific, etc...that all really should be left out of this first film as they'll eat away screentime.

I hope for the best at least. We really need a really good Superman movie.

[ZariusTwo]

Some alleged details are emerging from all the test screenings

-Film is broken down into chapters/issues as it goes, complete with title cards

-Bradley Cooper is playing Jor-El

-Borrows a bit from early seasons of Smallville (Jor-El wanted Clark to conquer, Lex exploits that to turn public opinion against Superman),

-Lois pretends not to care about Clark at work but they're secretly a couple at home

-Lex and Superman's Clark Kent persona will have more interaction (it's never really been done in the movies aside from a short sequence in BVS)

-Kara is a drunk, like in Tom King's run, she takes Krypto with her at the end, setting up her movie

[Andrew NDB]

Some alleged details are emerging from all the test screenings

-Film is broken down into chapters/issues as it goes, complete with title cards

-Bradley Cooper is playing Jor-El

-Borrows a bit from early seasons of Smallville (Jor-El wanted Clark to conquer, Lex exploits that to turn public opinion against Superman),

-Lois pretends not to care about Clark at work but they're secretly a couple at home

-Lex and Superman's Clark Kent persona will have more interaction (it's never really been done in the movies aside from a short sequence in BVS)

-Kara is a drunk, like in Tom King's run, she takes Krypto with her at the end, setting up her movie

Hmm... but does it have a satisfying ending?

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Sneak Peak

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[Andrew NDB]

Bittersweet, again. I'm hopeful for this movie, but it's also a reminder of what a soft-reboot Cavill film could have been like. Not necessarily JUST like this, but in this vein with all-out Williams score and so on.

[ZariusTwo]

I want to like it a lot. Starting off in media res with Clark in bad shape is an interesting way of showing vulnerability, but the Krypto sequence dragged on and for robots with 'no conscience', 12 seems smitten with Clark.

[IMJ]

and for robots with 'no conscience', 12 seems smitten with Clark.

That was the joke, not a mistake of writing or continuity.

[ZariusTwo]

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[IMJ]

The new McFarlane Corenswet Superman (https://mcfarlanetoysstore.com/superman-w-krypto-superman-movie-deluxe-theatrical-edition-7in-figure/) looks great at least. Doesn't mean the costume is great, but the toy is a great representation of the material at least.

[Andrew NDB]

Man, I hate that costume. It's everything I've hated about Superman costumes since forever, all in one.

[IMJ]

Man, I hate that costume. It's everything I've hated about Superman costumes since forever, all in one.

Oh I love Superman's costume. Three most classic and perfectly-cliche costumes in comics - Superman, Batman and Spider-man and they are all perfect.

But the art direction for the costume in this movie sucks. I sincerely hope this flick is good though. The thing I'm looking forward to the most is Mr. Terrific to be honest - that character, Booster Gold and Captain Atom are about as low-lister in the DCU that I'd go to keep me interested.

[member_removed]

The new McFarlane Corenswet Superman (https://mcfarlanetoysstore.com/superman-w-krypto-superman-movie-deluxe-theatrical-edition-7in-figure/) looks great at least. Doesn't mean the costume is great, but the toy is a great representation of the material at least.

Looks more like Henry Cavill.

[IMJ]

Looks more like Henry Cavill.

McFarlane headsculpts are wildly hit and miss. Same with his articulation and scale across his toyline. Honestly, it's amazing that his multiverse stuff is so popular.

[Autbot_Benz]

McFarlane headsculpts are wildly hit and miss. Same with his articulation and scale across his toyline. Honestly, it's amazing that his multiverse stuff is so popular.

He is done after this year. Mattel got the DC license back. Agreed his stuff is hit and miss

[IMJ]

He is done after this year. Mattel got the DC license back. Agreed his stuff is hit and miss

Yeah although I respect Mattel's construction quality, I'm not a huge DC guy to begin with so I think I'm off-boarding when McFarlane's run ends.

I buy the occassional 7" figure that appeals to me, but my real support is for the Super Powers stuff which is done really well. But after that? I can do draw down.

Honestly, I'm more likely to continue to buy the very cool, very under the radar Spinmaster stuff than get back into Mattel.

[Autbot_Benz]

Yeah although I respect Mattel's construction quality, I'm not a huge DC guy to begin with so I think I'm off-boarding when McFarlane's run ends.

I buy the occassional 7" figure that appeals to me, but my real support is for the Super Powers stuff which is done really well. But after that? I can do draw down.

Honestly, I'm more likely to continue to buy the very cool, very under the radar Spinmaster stuff than get back into Mattel.

Im not sure if I will buy anything Mattel makes either

[Barkworm]

I like Corenswet‘s voice and overall charisma but can we have him smile in just one shot? Why is his Superman so depressed all the time?

[IMJ]

I like Corenswet‘s voice and overall charisma but can we have him smile in just one shot? Why is his Superman so depressed all the time?

I honestly can't stand that he was writhing in pain at the sun healing him in that trailer. Normally silly, nitpicky $#!( like that doesn't really bother me when there is some overarching element more worthy of discussion, but that is an honest fail.

I get it, I get it.... "his ribs are resetting" and all that. But he's Superman. It might have been better played as if the entire thing was cathartic to him and maybe the mild humor that one snaps back in place and he kind of goes "oooo wtf?" because not only was it surprising that it hurt but his reaction to it could have been comedic and sort of quizzical rather than the whole writhing in pain thing.

Just seems like a tremendous misstep there as far as a nitpicky thing goes.

[Barkworm]

I was never a big fan of the Christopher Reeve films but the positive energy he brought to the role - that right there is what I always loved about the character the most.

[Andrew NDB]

Now, this was a trailer:

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[ToTheNines]

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Like most people, I don’t really follow the production of movies unless it’s capeshit. But man, I fuc*ing HATE that they still do these fake interviews with the cast and make them say all this pretentious, overwrought **** about the movie. So cringey.

Anyway. That aside, everything looked pretty good still. Cautiously optimistic.

[Autbot_Benz]

First Trailer is coming Wednesday

[Andrew NDB]

Like most people, I don’t really follow the production of movies unless it’s capeshit. But man, I fuc*ing HATE that they still do these fake interviews with the cast and make them say all this pretentious, overwrought **** about the movie. So cringey.

Yeah... me, too. But it is part of the gig, even if it's obviously fakey. Like, they can't just NOT do that stuff with all the money and investors involved.

[Coola Yagami]

I mean as long as they keep it to 'I'm so excited to be in this movie' and 'this movie will blow your mind' and all that and keep politics and personal beliefs out of it, unlike what Zeigler did, I don't mind.

[Andrew NDB]

A trailer for the trailer (tomorrow):

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[IMJ]

That's the thumbnail moment WB chose for that trailer image? Between that and the Antarctic flight-shot, they are not batting 1,000 with those Corenswet-face moments omg.

[Barkworm]

That's the thumbnail moment WB chose for that trailer image? Between that and the Antarctic flight-shot, they are not batting 1,000 with those Corenswet-face moments omg.
:lol: Right? Looks like he's really trying to hold in a fart.

[Autbot_Benz]

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This is Superman this already 100X better than Man Of Steel. They nailed Pa Kent perfectly in this

[Andrew NDB]

They nailed Pa Kent perfectly in this

I'm very familiar with that actor and beyond the Superman costume I think Pa Kent in this is probably the worst, most "wrong" thing going on.

[Autbot_Benz]

I'm very familiar with that actor and beyond the Superman costume I think Pa Kent in this is probably the worst, most "wrong" thing going on.

Really I disagree At least he isn’t as bad as Snyder’s take Mr let the kids die on the bus maybe

[Andrew NDB]

Really I disagree At least he isn’t as bad as Snyder’s take Mr let the kids die on the bus maybe

And that was a very stupid creative choice with Snyder's Pa Kent. I'm just saying the actor choice and "vibe" of Pa Kent is super wrong in this movie. That guy only ever plays "dopey and mopey" and visually looks nothing like any version of Pa Kent I've ever seen or that is worth its salt.

[IMJ]

The cool looking "Superman vs Kaiju" set by Spinmaster is up on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/DC-Comics-Figure-Monster-Battle/dp/B0DBLXXPFN/ref=sr_1_4?s=toys-and-games&sr=1-4).

I love what Spinmaster has done in the 3.75" scale for DC. If they held Marvel I could only imagine the amazing Iron Man armories and playsets and so on that might have come out.

[Coola Yagami]

Love that Luthor somehow found the Juggernaut armor.

Sorry, I know it's probably some primitive mach 1 version of his Lexcorp armor... but he just looks like the Juggernaut here.

[Andrew NDB]

Love that Luthor somehow found the Juggernaut armor.

Sorry, I know it's probably some primitive mach 1 version of his Lexcorp armor... but he just looks like the Juggernaut here.

Wait... are we sure that's him in there? Apparently that is some obscure fake nation superhero/villain from the comics. The costume is a dead ringer in comparisons I saw.

[ToTheNines]

Still liking most of what I’m seeing. Although I didn’t care for Clark acting like kind of a bitch during interview scene.

[IMJ]

Still liking most of what I’m seeing. Although I didn’t care for Clark acting like kind of a bitch during interview scene.

The trailer was woven well enough that it did bump up my interest more than before the trailer.

They really do need to save the "Superman grunts and pains" moments for some kind of real beating though. If Snyder got anything right it's that he absolutely nailed the scale of power of the character. Superman wouldn't smash into the ground from flight and grunt getting up from the mild pain. He'd just get up.

[Andrew NDB]

I will say that Lois actress is probably the most "Accurate" Lois I've ever seen on screen. The guy's Superman isn't bad either and this actually sold it a bit better to me than anything I've seen before but he automatically gets the "Cavill test" and sorta fails it as the "Wish" version of it. The Lex Luthor isn't bad either though I would've liked the guy to be a LITTLE older, but it's fine.

[Coola Yagami]

Wait... are we sure that's him in there? Apparently that is some obscure fake nation superhero/villain from the comics. The costume is a dead ringer in comparisons I saw.

Oh, that might be it. Guess Metallo wasn't available.

[IMJ]

I will say that Lois actress is probably the most "Accurate" Lois I've ever seen on screen. The guy's Superman isn't bad either and this actually sold it a bit better to me than anything I've seen before but he automatically gets the "Cavill test" and sorta fails it as the "Wish" version of it. The Lex Luthor isn't bad either though I would've liked the guy to be a LITTLE older, but it's fine.

What you said there word for word. Yup.
It hasn't gotten me completely jazzed and excited but it looks promising and I'm hopeful that it's great.

[Autbot_Benz]

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Love this theme. Between this and Superman and Lois the stink of Man Of Steel has finally been washed away

[CyberCubed]

I think this is going to be good, as long as it doesn't get too derailed with the other superheroes or too much going on. Man I hope we finally get a good Superman movie in such a long time.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, there is a real risk of the movie losing focus. There is clearly a LOT of "day in the life" type of stuff happening and cycling through multiple villains. And Lex is there, of course... but who even is THE villain, really? The rumors still say a "Bizarro version of Ultraman," which sounds horrible and lame.

Still, this could be the start of good things for DC. Supergirl will just be a pretty odd follow-up. It doesn't seem like The Brave and the Bold is anywhere near filming yet and it doesn't sound like they're even talking about a new WW yet, and you'd think those would be the priorities if Superman does well.

But alas, the slate, the slate...

[sdp]

There has never been a good live action superman movie.

[IMJ]

Superman II was a terrific Superman movie. At the time the standard "loses powers regains powers" trope wasn't a thing - it was fairly fresh. I'd say the only real "weirdness" in Superman II was all near the end battle with the "magical saranwrap S shield" and "laser fingers" thing. And after that the "magical kiss of forgetfulness", but those are three weird moments in an otherwise good movie.

And the first Superman movie was really good but it really adopted the Golden Age sensibility of the character and is a little bland by today's standards.

[Andrew NDB]

Superman: Pretty boring. Overrated. Campy and lame. Reeve is great in the role.

Superman II: Pretty good! There's some cheese in there but it's just native to the era. I mostly enjoy it.

Superman III: Awful.

Superman IV: Awful and CHEAP.

Man of Steel: Great except for the Pa Kent stuff (both his lectures and the way his death went) and the makeout amidst the dead bodies and rubble stuff. I'd still say that makes it 95% a really good movie.

Gun to my head, 2 hours to spend watching a Superman movie, it would be Man of Steel every time. I love the Krypton stuff, I love Clark's self-discovery and build to becoming Superman, the Lois stuff is decent enough and I was OK with her kind of figuring out stuff on her own. And I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the Man of Steel soundtrack/score. It pumps me up every time I hear it. The original John Williams stuff somehow woven in would have been a huge cherry on top and I wish they would have done that but hey.

[Autbot_Benz]

Superman: Pretty boring. Overrated. Campy and lame. Reeve is great in the role.

Superman II: Pretty good! There's some cheese in there but it's just native to the era. I mostly enjoy it.

Superman III: Awful.

Superman IV: Awful and CHEAP.

Man of Steel: Great except for the Pa Kent stuff (both his lectures and the way his death went) and the makeout amidst the dead bodies and rubble stuff. I'd still say that makes it 95% a really good movie.

Gun to my head, 2 hours to spend watching a Superman movie, it would be Man of Steel every time.

I agree with the Man of Steel Stuff Snyder Pa Kent is terrible and ya the make out in the destruction of Metropolis is stupid. I am also not a fan of the Mortal Kombat Neck Snap to Zod.

[oldmanwinters]

Superman: Pretty boring. Overrated. Campy and lame. Reeve is great in the role.

Superman II: Pretty good! There's some cheese in there but it's just native to the era. I mostly enjoy it.

Superman III: Awful.

Superman IV: Awful and CHEAP.

Man of Steel: Great except for the Pa Kent stuff (both his lectures and the way his death went) and the makeout amidst the dead bodies and rubble stuff. I'd still say that makes it 95% a really good movie.


You forgot Brian Singer’s 2.5-3-hour creepy love-offering to the Reeve-films!

[IMJ]

You forgot Brian Singer’s 2.5-3-hour creepy love-offering to the Reeve-films!

Nah no one forgot. No one wants to even bring it up. Brian Singer's gay childhood fantasy on-film.

Although nobody slams the entire airplane sequence. Beginning to end that was and still is visually incredible.

[ZariusTwo]

Nah no one forgot. No one wants to even bring it up. Brian Singer's gay childhood fantasy on-film.

Although nobody slams the entire airplane sequence. Beginning to end that was and still is visually incredible.

I made a fan edit of Superman Returns once that rearranged scenes and I used the plane rescue as the climax.

[Andrew NDB]

Nah no one forgot. No one wants to even bring it up. Brian Singer's gay childhood fantasy on-film.

I didn't mean to exclude it.... but yeah. Probably that's why. It doesn't even really register as a Superman movie in my head beyond, sure, that airplane rescue. It's just so wrong on so many head-scratching levels it's unfathomable.

I'll always give Singer credit for kicking in the door for relatively proper comic book movies with X-Men 1... everything he did after that is deplorable.

I made a fan edit of Superman Returns once that rearranged scenes and I used the plane rescue as the climax.

A lifetime ago I dallied about a combined Superman 3 and 4 reedit (basically cutting out all the crap and combining them into 1 thing that'd be semi OK) that basically set up Superman Returns, complete with a rotoed and recolored Christopher Reeve blasting off to search for Krypton at the end. But I just didn't feel enough energy for Superman Returns to see it through. Or even 3 and 4.

This may sound strange to some of you and it may not at all to others, but you know, you get new girlfriends over the years, and one of the neat things if you're a cinema buff is "Ooh! I get to show them these movies they never watched for the first time!" Every time Superman would come up and with multiple girlfriends, it would always be a slog. Superman would put them to sleep, they'd perk up at the romance stuff in Superman II, and hate 3 and 4, and then it'd be like a big wtf for Returns.

Also, sidenote. Peacemaker season 2 gets a semi-reboot in that we apparently get a semi-alternate universe Peacemaker in it that even encounters the season 1 Peacemaker (the one from the Snyderverse) at some point from the trailer. If we're doing this, why couldn't we have just done this with the Henry Cavill Superman movie we were teased? Just keep Cavill, swap in this new Lois actress, this new Lex, and call it good?

[Coola Yagami]

With Man of Steel, I liked the build up. Was amused to see Detective Stabler there. Faora was hot. I liked the scene where Zod's plan failed and realized he lost all purpose... so might as well destroy everything. And the line where he trained for battle all of his life while Clark was raised on a farm.

The most I remember when Supes and Zod fought it out was thinking 'THIS IS HOW YOU DO A DRAGONBALL Z MOVIE'.

[CyberCubed]

Who is the female villain Superman is fighting in the trailer?

[Autbot_Benz]

Who is the female villain Superman is fighting in the trailer?

The Engineer one of The Authority Members

[Andrew NDB]

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/james-gunns-changes-superman-catchphrase/

So now it's "truth, justice and the HUMAN way."

smdh...

Honestly, if "truth, justice and the American way" is soooo problematic just don't use it at all. Don't have him say "Truth, justice and all that stuff" or something even stupider like this now, just leave it out of it. And if you're a guy that thinks that "Truth, justice and the American way" is not something that Superman should say, you probably shouldn't be anywhere near a place where you've been tasked with working on Superman.

Plus, "the human way"? Which humans are we talking about here, exactly? The ones who don't let women work and genocide other races out of religion? The ones who deal deadly drugs and dissolve their enemies in barrels of acid? Oh, so not THOSE humans, I'm assuming?

With Man of Steel, I liked the build up. Was amused to see Detective Stabler there. Faora was hot. I liked the scene where Zod's plan failed and realized he lost all purpose... so might as well destroy everything. And the line where he trained for battle all of his life while Clark was raised on a farm.

The most I remember when Supes and Zod fought it out was thinking 'THIS IS HOW YOU DO A DRAGONBALL Z MOVIE'.

It was some really incredible fight scenes there. And Faora was very interesting. They gave her so little, but it amounted to so much. She was electric on the screen. I wonder what the rationale was for never really showcasing the third Kryptonian in Zod's pack. They just sort of "hide" him throughout the movie.

[ToTheNines]

Yeah that’s very stupid and you’re right. I think America stinks, but many many humans are just as morally bad, if not worse lol.

There’s a corny optimism to “truth, justice and the American way” that is essential to Superman. It doesn’t matter what’s going on in the real world, if you’re not willing to commit to that, just don’t bother telling a Supes story.

[oldmanwinters]

Yeah, “the Human Way” sounds like a slur, honestly.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/gunn-on-wonder-woman-batman-superman-2/

So a Superman sequel wouldn't necessarily even be exclusively a Superman movie? What, it's going to be like Superman vs. The Authority or something lame like that?

[IMJ]

James Gunn has a new commercial for early screenings posted on his Instagram page. It's an awesome commercial and a perfect example of how things should be in the public perception.....

Superman Early Screening Spot (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKuebN8gnub/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)

F u, wokesters. You want "black lesbian Superman" but this commercial does it 100% right.