Godzilla Minus One

[Powder]

New Japanese Godzilla flick coming out this December. Takes place following WW2, but in the same continuity as 2016's Shin Godzilla, making this a prequel of sorts. Just a teaser for now.

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The design seems to be an amalgamation of Legendary's 2014, & Toho's Heisei era suit, with '99's dorsal fins & some Shin-like details. More or less the same as the Godzilla The Ride design.

https://wikizilla.org/w/images/1/1c/VuyskakQ1625819479-1181x181.jpg

I'm very excited for it. I am a huge fan of Shin Godzilla, so I love that this will take place in the same timeline. The fact it is a period piece should prove interesting as well. Not much to go on at this point, but it's something to look forward to!

[oldmanwinters]

Fascinating! Is this the first true "prequel" we've ever gotten in the film series?

[Dpooly84]

I'm in, let's go baby

[IMJ]

In! 8)8)8)

[Andrew NDB]

Had anybody seen kaijus before in Shin Godzilla? If not, how is this supposed to be a prequel?

[Allio]

Last I heard it’s not connected.

[ZariusTwo]

They should play this directly after an Oppenheimer matinée:)

[IMJ]

They should play this directly after an Oppenheimer matinée:)

:lol::lol::lol::lol: HAHAHAA

[ProphetofGanja]

New Japanese Godzilla flick coming out this December. Takes place following WW2, but in the same continuity as 2016's Shin Godzilla, making this a prequel of sorts. Just a teaser for now.

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The design seems to be an amalgamation of Legendary's 2014, & Toho's Heisei era suit, with '99's dorsal fins & some Shin-like details. More or less the same as the Godzilla The Ride design.

https://wikizilla.org/w/images/1/1c/VuyskakQ1625819479-1181x181.jpg

I'm very excited for it. I am a huge fan of Shin Godzilla, so I love that this will take place in the same timeline. The fact it is a period piece should prove interesting as well. Not much to go on at this point, but it's something to look forward to!

I am so here for this

:lol::lol::lol::lol: HAHAHAA

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[Andrew NDB]

Doesn't sound or look like it will, in fact, be any kind of prequel or sequel to Shin Godzilla.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/is-godzilla-minus-one-sequel-shin-godzilla-chronology-explained

It's just its own thing, a new reboot that semi-adapts things from the original Godzilla movie.

[Allio]

Gonna see the movie next Tuesday.

[ProphetofGanja]

Doesn't sound or look like it will, in fact, be any kind of prequel or sequel to Shin Godzilla.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/is-godzilla-minus-one-sequel-shin-godzilla-chronology-explained

It's just its own thing, a new reboot that semi-adapts things from the original Godzilla movie.

Yeah it's not, I don't know how that rumor got started.

Gonna see the movie next Tuesday.

I'm hoping to go either tomorrow night or this weekend, seeing it in IMAX

[TheCanadiandrome]

Doesn’t seem to be playing near me, so I’ll likely just get it digitally

[Allio]

Yeah it's not, I don't know how that rumor got started.


Only time that “Shin Godzilla connection” ever came up was the initial “G” poster showing it in similar writing to Shin’s writing. Also I guess people are hoping more out of the Shin-thology.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Just saw it today.

This...this movie was amazing! You actually care about the human characters, AND GODZILLA FELT LIKE AREAL THREAT. I can't believe what they accomplished with their tiny budget. This movie really captured the trauma and horror of postwar japan, as well as the original Gojira. The way the main characters dealt with his PTSD from the war, the messages of grief and loss and moving on after a terrible tragedy, just.... beautiful! If you are a Godzilla fan... GO SEE THIS THING!

[sdp]

Just saw it today.

This...this movie was amazing! You actually care about the human characters, AND GODZILLA FELT LIKE AREAL THREAT. I can't believe what they accomplished with their tiny budget. This movie really captured the trauma and horror of postwar japan, as well as the original Gojira. The way the main characters dealt with his PTSD from the war, the messages of grief and loss and moving on after a terrible tragedy, just.... beautiful! If you are a Godzilla fan... GO SEE THIS THING!

How does it compare to Shin? I loved shin because godzilla felt like a real threat and how humans would react to it. To me Shin did everything right that 2014 wasn't able to do.
I have to wait 2 more weeks before I can watch, I want it to be good but I can't see how it could top Shin in that regard.

I mean I don't expect minus one to be shin, but the obvious comparisons are going to arise counting the last japanese movie was also a realistic/scary take on Godzilla. I really want to love it without comparing it but I find it it's going to be difficult, especially with all the praise the movie is getting that Shin didn't. I wonder if it's just a more casual friendly version of Shin.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

How does it compare to Shin? I loved shin because godzilla felt like a real threat and how humans would react to it. To me Shin did everything right that 2014 wasn't able to do.
I have to wait 2 more weeks before I can watch, I want it to be good but I can't see how it could top Shin in that regard.

I mean I don't expect minus one to be shin, but the obvious comparisons are going to arise counting the last japanese movie was also a realistic/scary take on Godzilla. I really want to love it without comparing it but I find it it's going to be difficult, especially with all the praise the movie is getting that Shin didn't. I wonder if it's just a more casual friendly version of Shin.

Not to put shin down, but story-wise with the human characters, this blows Shin clean out of the water. This is the first Godzilla movie I have seen that made you care more about the human characters, and hate Godzilla for what he was doing to them. Normally, you go into a godzilla film rooting for the monster, and hoping the human parts will be over quickly. Here, the human parts are integral to the story, and you care more about the human characters than you do the monster. The whole audience in the showing I was in teared up by the end of the film, and everyone cheered when that f$#!-ing daikaiju got taken out, near Jaws-style!

I will say the godzilla sequences in Shin are superior,and very realistic to what a modern monster attack would look like. But overall presentation goes to this film. In short, Shin is the far better monster movie over minus one, while minus one is the far better overall FILM. There is a reason for all this praise, this movie is almost like a perfect remake of the original Gojira, and the director says he wants to do a sequel, and international box office and reception might just get us a sequel! When you get the chance, go see this!

(Anyone wants spoilers, please PM me.)

[Allio]

Don’t know if anyone is playing it, but there is a game called Gigabash that is a spiritual successor to the Godzilla destroy all monsters games, and in it they have had DLC packs bringing in both Godzilla and Ultraman characters.

And it seems they are already teasing another Godzilla DLC with Minus One Godzilla and Monsterverse stuff.

[Xav]

Haven't played it but got it for free on the Epic Games store.

[Cowabung-Gal]

You know, none of the Godzilla films have ever addressed the terrible war crimes that Japan committed during WW2. The director of the first Godzilla film, Ishiro Honda, served in the war and was put in charge of a comfort station. In case you don’t know what that is, it was a brothel for captured women from occupied territories with whom the Japanese soldiers would have s*x daily. Ishiro wrote about that experience and from what he described, it was absolutely horrible. The youngest girls in these brothels were only fourteen.

Godzilla was conceived as the symbol of America’s nuclear power and the fears of the Japanese people at the time since they were still recovering from the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I haven’t seen Godzilla Minus One, but from what I’ve heard, it’s even more anti-war than the 1954 Godzilla and also critiques Japan’s collectivist mentality with the emphasis on the individual’s will to live.

Regardless of how popular this film is right now and all the praise that it’s getting, especially from American audiences, I think I’m gonna give it a pass and watch Godzilla X Kong instead. I’m a sucker for hero Godzilla, always have been. I like the idea of Godzilla protecting the Earth from alien invaders, ancient evils and man-made abominations. Even Ishiro himself stopped making doom-and-gloom films about a mindless destructive monster bent on destroying Japan and slowly turned Godzilla into a sentient protector. Sure, part of it was so that he could keep up with the evolving audience that craved for more light-hearted action, but Godzilla becoming a hero could be interpreted as a sort of symbolism for Japan overcoming their fear of nuclear energy and even using it not for malicious purposes but for good. In a way, Showa Godzilla post-1964 (the year “Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster” was released) represented a healing Japan that sought a more peaceful relationship with the rest of the world. Ishiro expressed his desire for a peaceful world in the futuristic setting of “Destroy All Monsters”. Is the Showa series incredibly goofy and even poorly made? Yes, but so what? It’s got it’s own charm that can withstand the test of time.

Minus One might have compelling human characters, but I don’t watch Godzilla movies for the humans; I watch them for the monsters. In fact, I always skip over the human parts and straight to the kaiju parts, and the more human-like the monsters are, like Showa, Heisei, and Legendary Godzilla are, the more interesting the film is. If you took Godzilla out of Minus One, people would still be moved by the film and say that it’s better than Wish or The Marvels or whatever America is producing nowadays, which is sad but true. But I don’t want to watch another film about a mindless Godzilla stomping on Tokyo and being destroyed (not even permanently) by the humans. That’s just not for me. Sorry.

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[Panda_Kahn_fan]

You know, none of the Godzilla films have ever addressed the terrible war crimes that Japan committed during WW2. The director of the first Godzilla film, Ishiro Honda, served in the war and was put in charge of a comfort station. In case you don’t know what that is, it was a brothel for captured women from occupied territories with whom the Japanese soldiers would have s*x daily. Ishiro wrote about that experience and from what he described, it was absolutely horrible. The youngest girls in these brothels were only fourteen.

Godzilla was conceived as the symbol of America’s nuclear power and the fears of the Japanese people at the time since they were still recovering from the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I haven’t seen Godzilla Minus One, but from what I’ve heard, it’s even more anti-war than the 1954 Godzilla and also critiques Japan’s collectivist mentality with the emphasis on the individual’s will to live.

Regardless of how popular this film is right now and all the praise that it’s getting, especially from American audiences, I think I’m gonna give it a pass and watch Godzilla X Kong instead. I’m a sucker for hero Godzilla, always have been. I like the idea of Godzilla protecting the Earth from alien invaders, ancient evils and man-made abominations. Even Ishiro himself stopped making doom-and-gloom films about a mindless destructive monster bent on destroying Japan and slowly turned Godzilla into a sentient protector. Sure, part of it was so that he could keep up with the evolving audience that craved for more light-hearted action, but Godzilla becoming a hero could be interpreted as a sort of symbolism for Japan overcoming their fear of nuclear energy and even using it not for malicious purposes but for good. In a way, Showa Godzilla post-1964 (the year “Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster” was released) represented a healing Japan that sought a more peaceful relationship with the rest of the world. Ishiro expressed his desire for a peaceful world in the futuristic setting of “Destroy All Monsters”. Is the Showa series incredibly goofy and even poorly made? Yes, but so what? It’s got it’s own charm that can withstand the test of time.

Minus One might have compelling human characters, but I don’t watch Godzilla movies for the humans; I watch them for the monsters. In fact, I always skip over the human parts and straight to the kaiju parts, and the more human-like the monsters are, like Showa, Heisei, and Legendary Godzilla are, the more interesting the film is. If you took Godzilla out of Minus One, people would still be moved by the film and say that it’s better than Wish or The Marvels or whatever America is producing nowadays, which is sad but true. But I don’t want to watch another film about a mindless Godzilla stomping on Tokyo and being destroyed (not even permanently) by the humans. That’s just not for me. Sorry.

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That is a perfectly respectable stance, this movie is not for everyone. I will say though, the movie does have a few lines that MILDLY address Japan's war guilt;there is literally a scene where an ex Japanese commander says, in regards to Japan; "During and after the war, this country had little regard for human life" America isn't directly demonized here, the movie gives a good reason why the US isn't attacking godzilla directly; there is a fear that using weapons or nukes on him will set off the soviets so near to their border.

Japan's government is actually demonized in the movie; they cover godzilla's existence up from the rest of japan and the larger world, and they refuse to attack the monster after it destroys Tokyo's ginza district. It's a 'citizen's action committee' made up of ex-Japanese soldiers that destroys godzilla,and there is to be a general attitude/atmosphere in the film that the war was wrong. Though we do see the suffering of the survivors in the ruins of Tokyo, and how they start to rebuild. Also,

they kind of show a new godzilla is regenerating from the splattered remains of the dead one. There is a little scene that implies another monster might be appearing if there is a sequel, and I think we might see the new regenerated godzilla be a hero that fights the evil kaiju in a sequel.

At best, it's a good alternative to the ... ahem... 'progressive' slate of Hollywood films that the studios spewed out on the big screen for the holidays.

[sdp]

Just watched it and it's definitely one of the best Godzilla movies out there. But I do think it is not as good as Shin Godzilla. Looking at the box office in Japan looks like they agree with me. I go more into detail on shin godzilla vs minus one comparisons here (https://miscrave.com/articles/godzilla-minus-one/). Still an amazing Goji movie and glad I saw it in theaters.

[Andrew NDB]

It sounds like it's more "accessible" than Shin.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I think I'll have to buy this because it never did come to theater near me

[The Inventive Donatello]

I have seen it twice now - really enjoyed it. Not that familiar with Godzilla but this has prompted me to seek out more of the films and comics (starting with the original film, Shin and Half Century War).

What I liked is that the focus was more on the human characters, and Godzilla was used relatively sparingly so as to make him seem like a real threat and make his impact greater. I don't know how much he shows up in previous films etc, as I don't have that reference point, but it seemed like the focus was on Koichi, Noriko and Akiko, especially the former's survivor's guilt. Obviously Godzilla is an allegory for Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the film handles that well.

One negative is that you could say there is some propaganda there, painting Japan as this noble nation fighting something unstoppable. They perpetrated plenty of horrors during the war, one thing that stands out is Unit 731. However, the same could be said of the Allied powers in the war, too. It does feel like the film tries to portray that Japanese time period a little too heroically, but overall I would be nit-picking with this criticism and I absolutely loved the film. To be fair there are parts that criticise the Japanese government too, such as the part where Noda talks about Japan treating life too lightly and as expendable, hammering home the point with Koichi's ejection seat. I will watch it again when it comes to VOD or streaming but I doubt the action parts will have quite the same impact on the small screen, hence me going twice to see it.

[CyberCubed]

I'd love to watch this but it's still not up on the illegal streaming websites, just the awful "cam" version where someone films the movie in the theater, I never watch those as the quality is terrible. Gotta wait till the HD rip, which will take a bit till it comes out somewhere officially.

Hopefully it's not too much longer.

[Cowabung-Gal]

I’d like to point out and correct a mistake that I made: one Godzilla film did in fact address the crimes that Japan committed during WW2, and that was “Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack”.

In this film, Godzilla is possessed by the spirits of the people who were killed by the Japanese Imperial Army. These spirits are furious at Japan for forgetting about the atrocities they committed during the war.

I’ve seen GMK before, like once. Not my favorite Godzilla film, and I still disagree with their decision to make King Ghidorah of all kaiju into a guardian for mankind. But still a good message.

[Allio]

GMK is easily in my top 5

[sdp]

Got to watch Godzilla Minus Zero earlier on the imax prescreening for Godzilla Day. I have to say that this might be the best sequel to a Godzilla movie ever made.

I am actually not a big fan of Minus one, it's a good movie but fails in comparison to Shin. But I think Minus Zero is much better than Minus One, much more haunting, here is an expanded take on Godzilla Minus One and Minus Zero (https://miscrave.com/articles/godzilla-minus/).