X-Men movie (Marvel Studios)

[Andrew NDB]

Marvel Studios is taking pitches for "X-Men" this fall. So, like, now.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/marvel-to-take-x-men-film-pitches-soon/

[IMJ]

MCU X-Men Predictions:

-Race swapped Charles Xavier.
-Bishop and Storm pushed to the forefront, Storm is, of course the team leader.
-Cyclops is an overbearing buffoon, jock that learns over time to be a "woke white guy" as approved by POC's in the story.
-True Villains are all white males, woke symbolism approved
-Any non-white villain is revealed to be "misunderstood" instead
-Some clown fandom will find these predictions to be unreasonable, even against last two years of Marvel-pattern and will pitch a fit at these predictions
-Same clown fandom will defend all of these predictions once they come true

[Andrew NDB]

Man, there are so many ways they could just completely kill this movie right out of the gate. Hopefully Feige isn't stupid.

[Barkworm]

MCU X-Men Predictions:
-Bishop and Storm pushed to the forefront, Storm is, of course the team leader
With Storm, it wouldn‘t even be a change, she used to be team leader in the 90s.

Not that I think they would make a good movie but having some sort of political message in it would be true to the original comics which were all about the civil rights movement, allegorically.

[Andrew NDB]

With Storm, it wouldn‘t even be a change, she used to be team leader in the 90s.

Not that I think they would make a good movie but having some sort of political message in it would be true to the original comics which were all about the civil rights movement, allegorically.

I think definitely a level of... political allegory and the like is to be expected. You can go a lot of ways with mutantphobia, of course. But if they were to do something like, for example, replacing Auschwitz and nazi stuff surrounding Magneto -- stuff we can all agree were evil and horrible, both back then and now -- and instead plugging in stuff about, say, modern day racism or "systemic racism" in America... that's going to be extremely divisive.

[Sumac]

Hopefully Feige isn't stupid.
I wouldn't hope for that anymore. The guy had approved existence Marvels and recent MCU TV series.

On the other hand, with a new Iger's directive to distance Disney from "culture war", he might be less concerned with adding SJW spiels into a movie and just making it a good movie, like old good times.

In general, as someone who didn't liked Fox's X-Men movie and found them dull and boring (except for First Class, Days of Future Past and Logan) I am not sure what they can do to make not boring for me.

For one, not having Wolverine as a central character would be a good idea. Also, making Cyclops a competent leader, not a bland stand-in in the background. Making Storm having a decent amount of screen time and having an adult (sexy?) Rogue would help. If Storm leads X-Men - it would be good as well, just not make it Wolverine focused.

It would be good, if their movie finally moved away from Xavier / Magneto rivalry and just tried to do something new.

Having a new villain, who is not tied to Magneto or military would help immensely. Not necessarily Apocalypse - this guy can serve as a Thanos-like threat for a MCU as a whole later, but someone like Mr. Sinister (and leave his OG origin intact for a wackiness (not that they do it)) or a Shadow King (diversity, yay!). Magneto can come into the picture later.

Also, please no time travel - this **** confuses the **** out of everyone. Save all the crazy shenanigans for later, if needed.

[Andrew NDB]

My hope is, of course, an X-Men movie that learns from the Singerverse. Yes, Wolverine is a standout and maybe he gets some solo movies down the line but it's about the team and lines are firmly drawn. "Mutantphobia! Everyone is afraid of us!" Yes, sure. But let's leave Twatter to draw ties to this or that agenda later on, and not have it baked into the cake overtly. There is a way to do this.

[Sumac]

My hope is, of course, an X-Men movie that learns from the Singerverse. Yes, Wolverine is a standout and maybe he gets some solo movies down the line but it's about the team and lines are firmly drawn. "Mutantphobia! Everyone is afraid of us!" Yes, sure. But let's leave Twatter to draw ties to this or that agenda later on, and not have it baked into the cake overtly. There is a way to do this.
The key thing of X-Men is that they can be about oppression without directly being compared to anything specific. After all humans with dangerous super powers do not exist in real world. And thanks to it, everyone can associate themselves with a good guys, whether you're Black or Gay or just some bullied nerd.

What I am afraid of, is that SJW scum won't be satisfied unless it will be about [CURRENT YEAR] oppression, i.e. about them, since this is all they are caring about - attention and glory and power through it.

[IMJ]

With Storm, it wouldn‘t even be a change, she used to be team leader in the 90s.

Absolutely knew that someone would post that.

:D

[CyberCubed]

I definitely hope Wolverine is focused on a little less and isn't the main character of the films. They struck gold with Hugh Jackman but I imagine whoever the next actor is won't have as much pull or popularity, so we probably won't see a Wolverine that dominates the films as much.

I expect the team to be Cyclops, Jean, Wolverine, Beast, Storm, Rogue and maybe Iceman or Gambit. At least for the first movie before they gradually add more new characters as expected.

[Barkworm]

Absolutely knew that someone would post that.

:D

:lol: Oh come on. But let me you ask you this: When you were reading X-Men comics in the 90s, didn't you think Cyclops was always... a bit bland? I liked his Team Blue more but that was mostly because of Wolverine and Gambit. As team leader Storm always felt more compelling.

[IMJ]

:lol: Oh come on. But let me you ask you this: When you were reading X-Men comics in the 90s, didn't you think Cyclops was always... a bit bland? I liked his Team Blue more but that was mostly because of Wolverine and Gambit. As team leader Storm always felt more compelling.

They definitely painted Cyclops as a "functional leader" and hinged his reader-interest on romances way too much. I'd rather see the "Captain America-strategist Cyclops" more on the page.

I was a bigger fan of his across the Byrne/Claremont run and then in X-Factor for sure. I've always liked Storm as a character - my observations are more that "of course they'll go with my bullet points above because of agenda" than they are about "character preference". I always thought Bishop was awesome too. But those "canon uses" of characters are just greater ease of access for woke $#!( on film, which we all know isn't actually about 'inclusion'.

Bishop, Storm, etc - all about fun inclusion when original published.
Bishop, Storm, etc in the hands of Marvel studios - all about agenda and woke messaging when put in film.

[Stu_Padasso]

I don’t suppose there’s any point in hoping that these new X-Men movies will be its own cinematic universe? The MCU is already collapsing under its own weight just like the comics have.

[Sumac]

I don’t suppose there’s any point in hoping that these new X-Men movies will be its own cinematic universe? The MCU is already collapsing under its own weight just like the comics have.
Nope, they were not bought to be in their own universe in the first place.

More than that, arguably, nowadays, they are the only force capable to revive interest in the MCU to pre final of the Phase 3.

[Stu_Padasso]

Nope, they were not bought to be in their own universe in the first place.

More than that, arguably, nowadays, they are the only force capable to revive interest in the MCU to pre final of the Phase 3.

That’s what I thought.

*sigh*

Damn you, Bob Iger, for buying out 20th Century Fox. I don’t want to see a Disney Deadpool movie.

[IMJ]

I don’t suppose there’s any point in hoping that these new X-Men movies will be its own cinematic universe? The MCU is already collapsing under its own weight just like the comics have.

:lol:

They did that already with the Fox universe and that was ultimately a disaster. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/rdxs43f/Screenshot-20240430-182144-Facebook.jpg

[oldmanwinters]

Sega should really dig up their cancelled X-Women 32X game. The time definitely seems right! :tlol:

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/fFcqGrO.png

[neatoman]

So what the hell is Black Panther 3 even going to be about? Wakanda being insecure about their vibranium monopoly yet again?

[IMJ]

I saw somewhere online that the speculation is the Rock for Apocalypse. shrugs.

[Andrew NDB]

I saw somewhere online that the speculation is the Rock for Apocalypse. shrugs.

I mean, maybe.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/41/c1/1041c1391feb72d080fc368ab5b2bc25.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

Magneto might be Denzel in what would be an obvious reveal that they're going full into systemic racism in the United States and white racists and away from WWII and nazis.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-x-men-rumor-has-denzel-as-magneto/

[Leofan26]

I say go for it since Trump's going to go for throat with this crap too.

[Barkworm]

I don‘t care either way but if you want a modern adaptation in the present, you can‘t go with Jewish Auschwitz survivor Magneto anymore. Sure, you could do it like they tried in the 90s series and set his past in a fictional country but making it about the Civil Rights Movement, especially in these socially divided US, is much more relevant and also comic book accurate because - AGAIN - X-Men were originally about the Civil Rights movement.

I mean, sure, you anti-wokies won‘t like it but whatever. Black Magneto played by Denzel Washington sounds great. Let his parents be murdered by a lynch mob in Alabama in the 60s and you're good to go origin-wise.

[ToTheNines]

I don‘t care either way but if you want a modern adaptation in the present, you can‘t go with Jewish Auschwitz survivor Magneto anymore. Sure, you could do it like they tried in the 90s series and set his past in a fictional country but making it about the Civil Rights Movement, especially in these socially divided US, is much more relevant and also comic book accurate because - AGAIN - X-Men were originally about the Civil Rights movement.

I mean, sure, you anti-wokies won‘t like it but whatever. Black Magneto played by Denzel Washington sounds great. Let his parents be murdered by a lynch mob in Alabama in the 60s and you're good to go origin-wise.

Yeah I agree it makes sense and works just as well (especially if you can nab someone of Denzel’s caliber). You have to change it eventually, just like Punisher. He’s not frozen in ice like Cap.

Just think. In another 50 years Magneto can be a guy from 2020 who wouldn’t wear a mask or put his pronouns in his email.

[Andrew NDB]

I wouldn't have a problem with it on paper, either, except it's not going to be remotely apples to apples with what it was when Magneto's origin was WWII/the Holocaust and all of that. Because whatever Magneto's origin story is changed to now is going to inform his motives in the present day, as well as his whole coalition of mutants. By changing it to some kind of racial thing in the United States and then making it about Magneto looking for that and finding it all over the present... that's not going to go over very well at all, and it shouldn't.

[ToTheNines]

I don’t know man, if anything it works even better. Have his powers first appear as he watches his parents getting lynched by the KKK or something, then as a young man he falls in with some militant black nationalist group.

I guess the problem is that (despite what the news/internet says) race relations in the US just got better through the 90’s into the 2000’s.

[Andrew NDB]

I guess the problem is that (despite what the news/internet says) race relations in the US just got better through the 90’s into the 2000’s.

That's really my point. He's going to be fictionally "finding" it in the present where in reality it doesn't exist. Or worse, we'll get stuff like Terminator: Dark Fate, where the Terminator is blowing away ICE officers at the border as some kind of "anti-racism" revenge fantasy.

[Barkworm]

I don’t know man, if anything it works even better. Have his powers first appear as he watches his parents getting lynched by the KKK or something, then as a young man he falls in with some militant black nationalist group.

I guess the problem is that (despite what the news/internet says) race relations in the US just got better through the 90’s into the 2000’s.
Kanye is selling Swastika shirts now, isn‘t that some breakthrough in race relations!

[ToTheNines]

Kanye is selling Swastika shirts now, isn‘t that some breakthrough in race relations!

Internet clown nonsense. No one takes Ye seriously. You only even know that because you’re the type of person who posts on Internet forums. (That’s not an insult. Everyone here can be classified as Extremely Online lol.)

I went to Target and Wegman’s today. Saw just about every ethnicity imaginable getting along just fine. All kinds of different people smiled at and interacted with my kid, and vice versa. Saw plenty of blended, interracial and LGBT families. No one cared.

[Barkworm]

Internet clown nonsense. No one takes Ye seriously. You only even know that because you’re the type of person who posts on Internet forums. (That’s not an insult. Everyone here can be classified as Extremely Online lol.)

I went to Target and Wegman’s today. Saw just about every ethnicity imaginable getting along just fine. All kinds of different people smiled at and interacted with my kid, and vice versa. Saw plenty of blended, interracial and LGBT families. No one cared.
It was a joke. Also, I‘m an Indian dude married to a white chick, we‘ve been doing okay.

[Coola Yagami]

(That’s not an insult. Everyone here can be classified as Extremely Online lol.)



Hey that's offensive. I only post once an hour on the hour and nothing more.

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/9fVmd98/506473655-750572504208172-7811836265569097355-n.jpg

I don't think there's a chance of this happening with even one of them but it MIGHT had this gotten into full-on production a few years ago.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-x-men-to-be-recognizably-different/

Will be "recognizably different."

[CyberCubed]

Making a new set of X-men young teenagers makes sense, especially if they want them for multiple movies and have to keep them on. In fact they should cast as young as possible, like around 13-14 years old, because these kids will grow up fast.

[Andrew NDB]

Seeing articles today about Adam Driver as Magneto and Patrick Wilson as Xavier and not disliking those picks.

[neatoman]

Speaking of Magneto, what are the odds of him still being a holocaust survivor? He was one in the FOX series but... I watched X-Men TAS recently to prepare for X-Men '97 and he really isn't confirmed to be a holocaust survivor in TAS and that was back in 1992, even X-Men '97 only goes so far as to imply he was part of a religious minority and indicate his first language is German. I know X-Men Evolution does say he is a holocaust survivor but then in Iron Man Armored Adventures it's only implied he was a test subject of Weapon X. I know in Ultimate he wasn't one and that's where the IMAA idea seemingly came from.

So... Are they gonna do it this time? I mean... If he was born in 1940, then he'd be 86 in 2026... And that's that's about the youngest he could be...

[Andrew NDB]

So nothing at all about the X-Men movie at San Diego Comic Con? Just... Ghost Rider in 2028? lol... boy, Marvel is going to be in a world of hurt in between these Avengers movies.

Speaking of Magneto, what are the odds of him still being a holocaust survivor? He was one in the FOX series but... I watched X-Men TAS recently to prepare for X-Men '97 and he really isn't confirmed to be a holocaust survivor in TAS and that was back in 1992, even X-Men '97 only goes so far as to imply he was part of a religious minority and indicate his first language is German. I know X-Men Evolution does say he is a holocaust survivor but then in Iron Man Armored Adventures it's only implied he was a test subject of Weapon X. I know in Ultimate he wasn't one and that's where the IMAA idea seemingly came from.

So... Are they gonna do it this time? I mean... If he was born in 1940, then he'd be 86 in 2026... And that's that's about the youngest he could be...

There are ways to do it if they're game. Like after the 40s he lives in a land where time moves slower, or he's frozen, or his mutation slows down his aging drastically, or he goes into a portal, etc., etc.. But if the temptation will be to make it about American racism instead and that prevails (like Selma instead of the holocaust, or something like that) then X-Men will be cooked.

[Autbot_Benz]

So nothing at all about the X-Men movie at San Diego Comic Con? Just... Ghost Rider in 2028? lol... boy, Marvel is going to be in a world of hurt in between these Avengers movies.


.
Nope at this rate we will all be in our 80s by the time X-Men comes out

[IMJ]

One of the biggest challenges will be Magneto as someone who experienced the Holocaust. They'd basically have to weave in some kind of "anti aging element" to the story and that would just deeply convolute things.

The other big challenge is choosing what age to make the X-Men in general. Kids won't cut it and honestly neither do teens. But that real deep split you get in the mid-20's as people start to really come into their own is probably the right landing zone there.

[Andrew NDB]

The other big challenge is choosing what age to make the X-Men in general. Kids won't cut it and honestly neither do teens. But that real deep split you get in the mid-20's as people start to really come into their own is probably the right landing zone there.

Yeah, Magneto and Xavier and even Wolverine is one thing, but the question of "who should the main X-Men be?" we're talking about a casting call for 20-somethings that we've probably never seen in any big movies. But people don't like that because it's not exciting.

[ranger_scout]

Samara Weaving has been cast as Emma Frost.

https://deadline.com/2026/07/x-men-samara-weaving-emma-frost-marvel-studios-1237013568/

[ranger_scout]

Kit Connor has apparently been cast as Cyclops.

https://deadline.com/2026/08/kit-connor-cyclops-x-men-movie-marvel-studios-1237018735/

[Andrew NDB]

Kit Connor has apparently been cast as Cyclops.

https://deadline.com/2026/08/kit-connor-cyclops-x-men-movie-marvel-studios-1237018735/

Uh oh... is this why he was cast?

https://i.ibb.co/GQpjQdQq/Screenshot-20260807-160407-Facebook.jpg

Also, is there such a thing as a bisexual male?

[neatoman]

Also, is there such a thing as a bisexual male?

Could you elaborate on what you mean by this question?

[Andrew NDB]

Could you elaborate on what you mean by this question?

It's not really a thing that exists in reality. Or at least, not for very long and it only ever goes in one direction. Mostly it's "Bye-Sexual," as in, "Goodbye, heterosexuality."

[ToTheNines]

Bryan Singer approves

[CyberCubed]

Also, is there such a thing as a bisexual male?

No, bisexual men can "pretend" they like girls but we all know that's not true. Once you go homo you can never come back home-o.

[Andrew NDB]

Interesting Professor X hubbub.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/more-x-men-casting-talk-emerges/

[oldmanwinters]

Interesting Professor X hubbub.

…hub, bub

I read that in Cal Dod’s Wolverine voice

[Autbot_Benz]

Cast announced at D3

Adam Driver is MR SINISTER

Christopher Abbott joins the cast as PROFESSOR X


Samara Weaving is EMMA FROST


Inde Navarette has been cast as ROGUE




Kit Conner is officially CYCLOPS

Maya Boyd is STORM

[Andrew NDB]

Cast announced at D3

Adam Driver is MR SINISTER

Well, there it is. The villain. Finally, not another X-Men vs. Magneto movie.

Inde Navarette has been cast as ROGUE

lol, of course she has. Not terrible casting at all but... can she do the voice?

[Coola Yagami]

Well, there it is. The villain. Finally, not another X-Men vs. Magneto movie.



lol, of course she has. Not terrible casting at all but... can she do the voice?

More like, will she? Anna Paquin did it for like 3 seconds and then forgot she was supposed to have it.

[IMJ]

I can't even go back and watch those X-Men flicks. And seeing someone's comment about Paquin as Rogue reminded me of all of that.

"The Wolverine" is the only one I can watch now and again, and maybe "Logan" once in a blue moon. I suppose I will buy "Deadpool & Wolverine" at some point. That one was really good.

[CyberCubed]

Interesting we have an all-new X-men cast finally. Also no Wolverine, I imagine they'll wait a few sequels in before they introduce a new Wolverine. Hugh Jackman will probably continue to appear in the Avengers movies for that reason.

[Stu_Padasso]

Cast announced at D3

Adam Driver is MR SINISTER


They should have casted Tim Curry before his stroke.

“Ive been making a man, with blonde hair and a tan…”

[Andrew NDB]

Interesting we have an all-new X-men cast finally. Also no Wolverine, I imagine they'll wait a few sequels in before they introduce a new Wolverine.

I doubt they'll wait quite that long. I don't know that we'll meet him in the first movie but I can imagine some kind of mid end credits bit with a shadowy version of him emerging from Weapon X, with a closeup of his hand shooting out his claws.

[IMJ]

I think it's great that they are going with Mr. Sinister - that is authentically the only thing that excites me about the casting announcements.

[ranger_scout]

Cast announced at D3

Adam Driver is MR SINISTER



This article and theory makes sense. I do believe that since Mr. Sinister will be the villain in this movie that the Jean Grey we saw in Spider-Man: Brand New Day might've actually have been her clone Madelyne Pryor. It makes more sense for her to be a villain rather than the REAL Jean Grey.

X-Men: Adam Driver’s Mister Sinister Can Fix the MCU’s Jean Grey Problem (https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/2177559-x-men-adam-drivers-mister-sinister-can-fix-the-mcus-jean-grey-problem)

[Coola Yagami]

This article and theory makes sense. I do believe that since Mr. Sinister will be the villain in this movie that the Jean Grey we saw in Spider-Man: Brand New Day might've actually have been her clone Madelyne Pryor. It makes more sense for her to be a villain rather than the REAL Jean Grey.

X-Men: Adam Driver’s Mister Sinister Can Fix the MCU’s Jean Grey Problem (https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/2177559-x-men-adam-drivers-mister-sinister-can-fix-the-mcus-jean-grey-problem)
But then why try (and fail) so hard to redeem her?

[Andrew NDB]

This article and theory makes sense. I do believe that since Mr. Sinister will be the villain in this movie that the Jean Grey we saw in Spider-Man: Brand New Day might've actually have been her clone Madelyne Pryor. It makes more sense for her to be a villain rather than the REAL Jean Grey.

X-Men: Adam Driver’s Mister Sinister Can Fix the MCU’s Jean Grey Problem (https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/features/2177559-x-men-adam-drivers-mister-sinister-can-fix-the-mcus-jean-grey-problem)

I'd put 0 chance of that. They wouldn't waste her intro in a 2 billion dollar movie only to not actually intro her.

[ranger_scout]

But then why try (and fail) so hard to redeem her?

I'd put 0 chance of that. They wouldn't waste her intro in a 2 billion dollar movie only to not actually intro her.

Let's not forget that Madelyne was redeemed in just one episode of X-Men: 97 after being evil for the majority of it.

[ranger_scout]

Asa Germann has been cast as Angel.

https://deadline.com/2026/09/xmen-asa-germann-angel-marvel-movie-1237073807/

[ranger_scout]

Ben Wang is in talks to play Iceman.

https://deadline.com/2026/11/ben-wang-circling-iceman-role-x-men-1237211516/

[CyberCubed]

Has Iceman ever been Asian before?

[ToTheNines]

Gay and Chinese. Hell yeah dude.

[neatoman]

Gay and Chinese. Hell yeah dude.

Hm... That reminds me, I did once find quite a few pieces of shipping fan art of of Hun and Casey Jones from the 2012 TMNT cartoon.

[Autbot_Benz]

Marvel really needs to keep the core cast as they are in the comics. Nobody wants Asian iceman that would be weird.

[Stu_Padasso]

Ben Wang is in talks to play Iceman.

https://deadline.com/2026/11/ben-wang-circling-iceman-role-x-men-1237211516/

I would say, “I’m out,” but I’ve been past that point for a long time.

[Andrew NDB]

I still think everything rides on what they do with Magneto. That will tell us everything we need to know about the movie with what they do there.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

I wonder if there will be a new actor to play as Wolverine or if they'll just not use him this time.

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder if there will be a new actor to play as Wolverine or if they'll just not use him this time.

Probably not in this one, or just some sort of tease. Remember, it has to be someone quite younger or it'll be weird if he's flirting with Sadie Sink.

[CyberCubed]

Wolverine won't come till a few sequels later. And that's for the best, they need to focus on the core X-men like Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Rogue, etc. before it becomes "The Wolverine show" again. Once Wolverine gets introduced he steals the spotlight from all the other characters.

I honestly hope we can go 2-3 main films without casting someone. They can still use Hugh Jackman for Avengers films on the side so he doesn't interfere with main X-men films till they cast a new younger Wolverine.

[Barkworm]

Denzel Magneto is still the only thing that could have made this interesting for me.

[ToTheNines]

What if Magneto was a Black Hebrew Israelite?

[ranger_scout]

Channing Tatum is not expected to return as Gambit in the movie. They are looking for a younger actor who is around the same age as the actress who will be playing Rogue.

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/mcu-to-recast-channing-tatums-gambit-in-the-x-men-reboot-make-a-rogue-romance-age-appropriate-according-to-report/

[Andrew NDB]

Channing Tatum is not expected to return as Gambit in the movie. They are looking for a younger actor who is around the same age as the actress who will be playing Rogue.

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/mcu-to-recast-channing-tatums-gambit-in-the-x-men-reboot-make-a-rogue-romance-age-appropriate-according-to-report/

Obviously. That would be super creepy.

Like Jackman's "Multiversal Wolverine," Tatum's "Multiversal Gambit" probably will pop up in big things like Avengers movies and such, though.

Denzel Magneto is still the only thing that could have made this interesting for me.

Lecturing us about the evils of American racism? No way. This would be D.O.A..

[Barkworm]

Haha, right because in a movie you only want to hear about the evil of racism in other countries. You don‘t want to be taken out of your comfort zone when you paid for a ticket!

On the other hand, it‘s just a popcorn flick so you‘ve got a bit of a point.

[Andrew NDB]

Haha, right because in a movie you only want to hear about the evil of racism in other countries. You don‘t want to be taken out of your comfort zone when you paid for a ticket!

Not when:

1) That's not representative of the source material.

and

2) Mimics the waves of current social justice/leftist ideology.

I mean, a "Door #3" option might be instead of using Nazis and Poland and jews and all that, they just make some fictional country where a similar kind of holocaust happened a few decades ago. That'd be fine.

On the other hand, it‘s just a popcorn flick so you‘ve got a bit of a point.

Even non-popcorn movies lecturing about racism are bombing. Everybody is sick and tired of that kind of messaging and yes, they're ready to be entertained again.

[Barkworm]

Making up a fictional country mimicking holocaust - fine. Referring to actual racism in the US (which would absolutely represent the source material) - bad. Gotcha.

[ToTheNines]

Making up a fictional country mimicking holocaust - fine. Referring to actual racism in the US (which would absolutely represent the source material) - bad. Gotcha.

Deflecting from Germany’s crimes against humanity, eh? What a patriot!

Just kidding of course. To be fair with Andrew’s point, I don’t think suggesting that post-Civil Rights Act America was as bad as Nazi Germany would be a good look (which if were hypothetically using Denzel and putting 55-ish years between Magneto’s origin and modern day Magneto à la the first Singer movie, that’s where we’d be at). Yes you still had hate crimes and institutional racism, but let’s call a spade a spade here.

I would probably argue that the transatlantic slave trade was actually worse than the Holocaust, but that’s not helping the problem of Magento’s age that’s causing this potential reimagining.

[Stu_Padasso]

Haha, right because in a movie you only want to hear about the evil of racism in other countries. You don‘t want to be taken out of your comfort zone when you paid for a ticket!

I’m guessing that you’ve never seen Mississippi Burning or American History X.

[IMJ]

Referring to actual racism in the US (which would absolutely represent the source material) - bad. Gotcha.

That's probably because most of the modern references to "racism" as far as "white evil" goes, is fabricated as an inherited right-of-passage from POC whose parents were angry at the dinner table, raising kids who believe they are fighting "the evil" that hasn't deeply existed in decades. Also, kids who are really brave going on about "colonizers" and other anti-white racisms because they aren't actually threatened by white people nowadays and therefore are free to run their mouths largely without repercussion.

But actual, real, historical racism is referred to in art and cinema all the time.

[Barkworm]

That's probably because most of the modern references to "racism" as far as "white evil" goes, is fabricated as an inherited right-of-passage from POC whose parents were angry at the dinner table, raising kids who believe they are fighting "the evil" that hasn't deeply existed in decades.
That statement falls apart as soon as you do one minute of research on hate crimes or discrimination in hiring.

But I know, people don‘t want lectures. And the new X-Men film is not going to be culturally relevant in any way.

[CyberCubed]

I seriously doubt they'll have a Magneto without Jewish origins.