More Brand Spanking New Doug (All Grown Up, Married With Kids)

[ZariusTwo]

The post Doug Creator Jim Jinkins Working on Sequel Series appeared first on Consequence.

Jim Jinkins, creator of the beloved Nicktoon Doug, says he has developed a sequel series.

Jinkins initially disclosed the project in an interview with the YouTube channel Tenn Buick that aired earlier this year. However, his comments were only recently picked up on social media.

Dubbed Doug Kids, the project would focus on Doug and Patti Mayonnaise, now adults and married (!), and their two children, Yancey and Doug Jr. The show would also feature adult versions of Skeeter, Roger, Beebe, Judy, Chalky, and other original characters.

Jinkins said he developed the sequel series at the encouragement of Disney+, who own the copyright to Doug.

“Doug is 33 years old — the fans of Doug have grown up, maybe some of them have gotten married, maybe some of them have kids. The idea of bringing Doug back now has real power in it,” he explained.

Jinkins cautioned that the project is still in the very early stages, as Disney+ has yet to officially give it the green-light. However, Jinkins went as far to share an early storyboard of the sequel series with the hope that it would compel Disney+ to move forward with the project.

The original Doug series aired for seven seasons between 1991 and 1999. The show also spawned a feature film that was released in 1999.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/doug-creator-jim-jinkins-working-131811189.html?guccounter=1

So much for the "Patti is a lesbian" urban myth. Seems Jim also changed his mind on Doug and Patti, he'd previously said they wouldn't have gotten together.

[Wildcat]

Cool. I never saw the Disney series but I want to.

[Mayhem]

Cool. I never saw the Disney series but I want to.
It wasn't Disney, it was broadcast on Nickelodean, but Disney now owns the rights to the series and characters.

[Icebot]

This is awesome!

Cool. I never saw the Disney series but I want to.

I know most people liked the Nickelodeon version a lot better but I actually enjoyed the Disney one.

[The Deadman]

https://movieweb.com/doug-sequel-series-disney/

Disney+ continues with its revivals and is preparing to bring back one of the most iconic, most beloved animated series from the 90s, Doug, almost 25 years after it's ending with Doug's 1st Movie in 1999. Originally premiering on Nickelodeon in 1991, Doug became one of the great animated productions of the time, being part of a golden generation for the network. The story focuses on the titular teenager, a shy and unpopular boy, but with a great imagination, who finds himself madly in love with one of his classmates, Patricia "Patti" Mayonnaise. The series focuses on Doug's experience as a teenager, his friendships, his relationship with his family and his first love.

The series was always highly praised by critics, which led the franchise to expand to the world of comic books, video games and even a stage play titled Doug Live!, which ran from 1999 to 2001. Therefore, now that Disney+ is bringing back so many hits from the past, it's no surprise that Doug is joining the roster.

Now, speaking with Tenn Buick, Doug's creator Jim Jinkis revealed that a sequel series is currently in early development at Disney+. The show will follow the kids of Doug and Patti, no doubt in a format similar to that of the original series.

[Icebot]

There’s already a thread for this:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=66397

[Mad Dog McMutt]

Patti Mayonnaise, it's like music.

[NinjaPug]

It wasn't Disney, it was broadcast on Nickelodean, but Disney now owns the rights to the series and characters.

Disney produced 3 seasons and 1 movie after the Nickelodeon series

[Andrew NDB]

Disney produced 3 seasons and 1 movie after the Nickelodeon series

I never even knew that. I assumed he was always a Nick property. How did Disney even pry it away from Nickelodeon, and why did Nickelodeon let them? Is there a big distinction between "the Nickelodeon version" and "the Disney version"? Is it the same continuity?

[Mayhem]

Disney produced 3 seasons and 1 movie after the Nickelodeon series
Well I didn’t know that either, it was all shown on Nick here in the UK.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

I never even knew that. I assumed he was always a Nick property. How did Disney even pry it away from Nickelodeon, and why did Nickelodeon let them? Is there a big distinction between "the Nickelodeon version" and "the Disney version"? Is it the same continuity?

There is a big difference between the Nick version and the Disney version. In the Disney version everybody is a little bit older and looks slightly different. They also used a different voice actor to play the role of Doug. The Disney version is basically hated by everyone.

[NinjaPug]

I never even knew that. I assumed he was always a Nick property. How did Disney even pry it away from Nickelodeon, and why did Nickelodeon let them? Is there a big distinction between "the Nickelodeon version" and "the Disney version"? Is it the same continuity?

Nick was originally supposed to make a 5th season of 13 more episodes but passed. Disney came in and bought the rights for future episodes and the property itself and aired it on Saturday mornings.

Show is the same continuity but the Nick version is superior imo. There were some character design changes, Billy West wasn’t brought back and the episodes were all 22 minutes vs the standard 11 min Nick episodes. It’s still the same show but I think the Disney version lacked the charm of the Nick episodes.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I never even knew that. I assumed he was always a Nick property. How did Disney even pry it away from Nickelodeon, and why did Nickelodeon let them? Is there a big distinction between "the Nickelodeon version" and "the Disney version"? Is it the same continuity?

The was a clause where Jim Jinkins was promised 65 episodes of Doug by Nickelodeon. Unfortunately, Viacom hit a budget freeze sometime after the fourth season which led to the final season of Doug to be cancelled as well as cancelling Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats (the latter got renewed by ratings of syndication). If Nick were not to fulfill that promise, the rights to the character would go back to Jim and his company Jumbo Pictures. ABC was one of the channels that were interested in continuing the show and even though Nick was told of this, they still stalled. Finally when Disney purchased ABC, they decided to follow up on this and (in typical Disney fashion) bought Jumbo Pictures outright, promising 65 episodes and a movie. Jim quotes "they made an offer I couldn't refuse."

It should be noted that Nickelodeon kept all the rights to the original seasons they produced.

Personally, I'd rather Jim or Nickelodeon to buy the IP back since Disney has repeatedly said they have no interest in pushing Doug forward. Truth be told, Disney's Doug was that memorable. If Nick had the rights, they'd definitely do more with it than Disney is currently.

Also, he originally wanted to do a reunion story where Doug and Patti would not end up together because it's a reflection of real life where you never end up being with your first crush.

[Leofan26]

Well, Doug x Patti shippers will be happy over this, I read they wrote the creator off for saying it was’t going to happen. I admit I liked them together but wasn’t dead for it not happening, with todays Disney I assumed Doug x Sketter would have happened.

As someone who’s watched the hate of Disney’s Doug unfold find this pretty amusing. This should make them happy :lol:

Let me guess Skeeter x Bebee and Rodger x Connie?

They could always pull a switch I guess, the previous was being hinted at since the original thought.

If only Arthur was owned by Disney :(

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Well, Doug x Patti shippers will be happy over this, I read they wrote the creator off for saying it was’t going to happen. I admit I liked them together but wasn’t dead for it not happening, with todays Disney I assumed Doug x Sketter would have happened.

As someone who’s watched the hate of Disney’s Doug unfold find this pretty amusing. This should make them happy :lol:

Let me guess Skeeter x Bebee and Rodger x Connie?

They could always pull a switch I guess, the previous was being hinted at since the original thought.

If only Arthur was owned by Disney :(

The thing about this is that many who don't care for the Disney version won't watch this because they're going to assume it's just as bad, regardless if it does or doesn't turn out to be. Doug isn't something that's gonna make the company much money or viewership anyway.

[Vicky82]

Well I didn’t know that either, it was all shown on Nick here in the UK.

I remember watching Doug on Disney channel in the UK.

[Mayhem]

I remember watching Doug on Disney channel in the UK.
Was talking about when it was shown here during the 90s.

[Vicky82]

Was talking about when it was shown here during the 90s.

Yeah I know. It definitely was on the Disney Channel here.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Yeah I know. It definitely was on the Disney Channel here.

In the US, it aired on ABC and Toon Disney. Never aired on the Disney channel here but in some areas it aired on UPN and the WB somehow.

[NinjaPug]

Unfortunately this isn’t actually moving forward. Jinkins clarified on Instagram:

realjimjinkins
I recently shared some old news with a podcast host that I was at one time developing a spinoff of Disney's Doug titled, 'Doug's Kids'. Articles have suddenly taken it out of context and ran it as an official announcement. It was an idea that came from a Disney executive who has since left the company, ... but it is nice to dream!! ??

-Jim Jinkins

[oldmanwinters]

I never really saw Doug and Patti as getting serious and married, personally.

EDIT: I always thought a large part of the appeal of the show (and their relationship) was the "first love/puppy dog crush" aspect of pre-teen kids. It's largely one-sided, but Patti really likes him as a friend but probably not beyond that. Doug's affections for her doesn't really have any substance other than the fact that he's smitten with her instantly and she's a pretty good person. His longings for her serve as the basis for his imagination to run wild with ideas, which usually serve the needs of the particular episode. At the end, he doesn't come to any deeper understanding of what his relationship to Patti "should be" but still learns something about himself. The show's theme is about enjoying childhood and growing up a little bit along the way, not that D&P are destined to end up together. And that's perfectly ok.

Now... I never really watched much of the Disney version of the show because it never hit the same way. Maybe they changed up all that.

[IndigoErth]

Darn, I'd have prob checked it out, at least to see how they aged them.

Likewise, I never knew Disney got Doug and produced it's own seasons with older characters.


“Doug is 33 years old — the fans of Doug have grown up, maybe some of them have gotten married, maybe some of them have kids. The idea of bringing Doug back now has real power in it,” he explained.
Kinda makes me wish TMNT (with a 2003-ish kind of vibe) was his sort of thing.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

With the characters all being different colors, this is one property Disney can't race-swap.:lol:

[Cowabung-Gal]

With the characters all being different colors, this is one property Disney can't race-swap.:lol:

They could still gender-swap though :ohwell:

[oldmanwinters]

With the characters all being different colors, this is one property Disney can't race-swap.:lol:

"Life finds a way."

[Cowabung-Gal]

"Life finds a way."

https://media.tenor.com/pgAApB3nJnwAAAAd/smile-grinning.gif

Good one

[Bahamut810]

They could still gender-swap though :ohwell:

Roger will be Trans if there is anything.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

Roger will be Trans if there is anything.

I think Patty would be the trans character. She had a deep sounding voice for a female and acted a lot like a boy. She even had a boy haircut in the Disney version. She even tried to impersonate a boy in an episode to get on the baseball team.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Likewise, I never knew Disney got Doug and produced it's own seasons with older characters.

They made quite a number of changes to the characters. Plus Doug now has a baby sister named "Dirtbike", I kid you not.


I think Patty would be the trans character. She had a deep sounding voice for a female and acted a lot like a boy. She even had a boy haircut in the Disney version. She even tried to impersonate a boy in an episode to get on the baseball team.

Connie would probably be her girlfriend. Interestingly enough, some have said that Connie would be a better love interest for Doug. I can see it for the Nick version, probably not Disney. Though with how she looks in the Disney version, I'm surprised nobody went after her.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

Connie would probably be her girlfriend. Interestingly enough, some have said that Connie would be a better love interest for Doug. I can see it for the Nick version, probably not Disney. Though with how she looks in the Disney version, I'm surprised nobody went after her.

Connie would totally be Patti's girlfriend. I could easily see Connie being a love interest for Doug. I think that she liked him because she did ask him to go to the dance in an episode. I forgot all about the baby being named Dirtbike. I saw like one or two episodes of Disney's Doug and I knew that I hated it. Watching Nick's Doug all these years later was very nostalgic. I bought the dvds even though the episodes are all on youtube.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Connie would totally be Patti's girlfriend. I could easily see Connie being a love interest for Doug. I think that she liked him because she did ask him to go to the dance in an episode. I forgot all about the baby being named Dirtbike. I saw like one or two episodes of Disney's Doug and I knew that I hated it. Watching Nick's Doug all these years later was very nostalgic. I bought the dvds even though the episodes are all on youtube.

Wait til you see what they did to Connie in the Disney series.

Actually, the episodes were removed from YouTube long ago. I also have the Complete Nickelodeon Series DVDs. It's amazing how Disney hasn't bothered to go after the rights to the Nick series (not that Nick would ever give up the rights) since you'd think they'd want to own literally everything from an IP they currently own.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

Wait til you see what they did to Connie in the Disney series.

Actually, the episodes were removed from YouTube long ago. I also have the Complete Nickelodeon Series DVDs. It's amazing how Disney hasn't bothered to go after the rights to the Nick series (not that Nick would ever give up the rights) since you'd think they'd want to own literally everything from an IP they currently own.

I have seen what they have done with Connie. She lost a lot of weight. They basically ruined almost every character in the Disney version. It didn't vibe with me back then and it doesn't vibe with me now. Nick's version was great though. It's nice to know there are others out there that still watch Doug. I have a Beets shirt that says Killer Tofu Tour 95'. Only one person has ever understood the reference.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I have seen what they have done with Connie. She lost a lot of weight. They basically ruined almost every character in the Disney version. It didn't vibe with me back then and it doesn't vibe with me now. Nick's version was great though. It's nice to know there are others out there that still watch Doug. I have a Beets shirt that says Killer Tofu Tour 95'. Only one person has ever understood the reference.

That's really cool that you have a Beets Shirt. They broke up in the Disney version as a matter of fact.

I've seen people that wear Nicktoons clothing and two of them have asked about Doug. No Doug merchandise besides those Funko Pops is a shame. He's also one of my most wanted characters in the Nick All Star Brawl games.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

That's really cool that you have a Beets Shirt. They broke up in the Disney version as a matter of fact.

I've seen people that wear Nicktoons clothing and two of them have asked about Doug. No Doug merchandise besides those Funko Pops is a shame. He's also one of my most wanted characters in the Nick All Star Brawl games.

I got my Beets shirt from Ebay. It is definitely an unlicensed shirt and design. It looks like a real band shirt though so I had to buy it.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Do you think Nick would ever buy Doug back from Disney?

[Mad Dog McMutt]

Do you think Nick would ever buy Doug back from Disney?

I don't think that they would.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I don't think that they would.

Well Jim Jinkins should.

[Bahamut810]

Connie would totally be Patti's girlfriend. I could easily see Connie being a love interest for Doug. I think that she liked him because she did ask him to go to the dance in an episode. I forgot all about the baby being named Dirtbike. I saw like one or two episodes of Disney's Doug and I knew that I hated it. Watching Nick's Doug all these years later was very nostalgic. I bought the dvds even though the episodes are all on youtube.

I think polyamory is one of the things Disney has not really had anyone being in their media...

[ranger_scout]

I’m going to sound unpopular, but I didn’t enjoy Doug as a kid for many reasons. One of them is that Doug once had a substitute teacher who was way too naive, gullible, and completely unqualified to be a teacher. The episode that aired after that had multiple parents of his baseball team complain about their kids not getting a chance to pitch. Then the team was forced to rotate being pitcher when they didn’t have enough experience. In another episode, Doug’s friends were complete hypocrites. They were accusing him of copying an actor from a teenage soap opera just because he wore the same outfit as him when they were wearing the outfit themselves. The Christmas episode was extremely difficult to watch when Porkchop was wrongfully accused of attacking Bebe while he was trying to save her from falling in thin ice. Seeing him severely locked up was just as difficult for me in Dumbo as when Mrs. Jumbo was mistakenly locked up after she was trying to protect her son.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I’m going to sound unpopular, but I didn’t enjoy Doug as a kid for many reasons. One of them is that Doug once had a substitute teacher who was way too naive, gullible, and completely unqualified to be a teacher. The episode that aired after that had multiple parents of his baseball team complain about their kids not getting a chance to pitch. Then the team was forced to rotate being pitcher when they didn’t have enough experience. In another episode, Doug’s friends were complete hypocrites. They were accusing him of copying an actor from a teenage soap opera just because he wore the same outfit as him when they were wearing the outfit themselves. The Christmas episode was extremely difficult to watch when Porkchop was wrongfully accused of attacking Bebe while he was trying to save her from falling in thin ice. Seeing him severely locked up was just as difficult for me in Dumbo as when Mrs. Jumbo was mistakenly locked up after she was trying to protect her son.

I'll give you the episode with the substitute teacher but I'm sure those other episodes you mentioned are not bad as you probably remembered them. There were still a lot of memorable episodes.

I think what made Doug stand out for me was that it wasn't trying too hard to be something and that I mostly related to him in wanting to fit in with others. Even though Doug got in a fair amount of unfair situations, I felt that the show wasn't mean-spirited like CatDog or a lot of episodes of Hey Arnold was, though Arnold improved on the slice of life cartoon style of Doug. But Doug felt very chill and wasn't too pretentious. His friends Skeeter and Mr. Dink gave it a more lively feeling as they each had their own quirky sense of humor that made the show less dull. Plus the music and sound effects by their voice actor Fred Newman was pretty cool!

Keep in mind I'm only speaking of the Nickelodeon version. I remember watching the Disney version on ABC but it kinda made the series a bit more bizarre and abnormal with its morals that it didn't quite feel the same.

[oldmanwinters]

Doug once had a substitute teacher who was way too naive, gullible, and completely unqualified to be a teacher.

Pardon me if I offend some actual professionals, but my impression is that you don't have to have much in the way of qualifications to be a substitute teacher in most public schools... other than availability.

[ranger_scout]

Oh yeah, there was also a time where his aunt forced him to go on a TV show for pre-schoolers and babies. That is another huge negative I had with the show.