Dune Messiah (Dune movie #3)

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.darkhorizons.com/villeneuve-almost-done-writing-dune-messiah/

So good news, Villeneuve is finishing up the script for the third movie which adapts all of the 2nd novel, "Dune Messiah." The bad news, he's saying if and when he does the movie, it will be his LAST foray into Dune.

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I mean, what?! We've already gotten multiple adaptations of Dune along with pretty decent adaptions of not only Dune Messiah but Children of Dune... and now we're not even endeavoring to go that far? Some of the best stuff is in the books after that, like God Emperor of Dune. The one hope with this Villeneuve Dune stuff is that this time we'd make it further with things.

[neatoman]

Speaking of the slow progress when it comes to adapting these books, is it weird that God Emperor (one of the books that will most likely never get adapted because at this rate it won't be until 2033 and would require three more movies to be successful) actually gets parodied?
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[Andrew NDB]

Starts filming in early 2026.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/third-dune-now-filming-in-early-2026/

[Andrew NDB]

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Blegh... more Chani girlbossing, which was NEVER in the books.

"Epic conclusion," my ass. Dune Messiah isn't even the end of Paul's life or arc.

[neatoman]

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Blegh... more Chani girlbossing, which was NEVER in the books.

"Epic conclusion," my ass. Dune Messiah isn't even the end of Paul's life or arc.

Well, marketing departments love to make "trilogies" seem special even if there is no real intent to stop at the third installment. Anyway, didn't the director say something about not wanting to adapt anything after messiah?

[IMJ]

Eager for this one.... big Denny V fan...

[Daytona]

Big fan, love Denis V, but the second film slowed my hype down for this series a decent amount.

Even though the first Dune film felt a little incomplete, the pacing, acting, and atmosphere all worked better for me. I think when it came to Dune 2, I realized I’m pretty bored with the lead actors and the pace of the film dragged a bit in addition to that. Still, there is a lot I do enjoy about it.

I plan to see Dune 3 in theaters though so I’m still enjoying the ride.

[Andrew NDB]

My general feelings...

* General boredom of getting the same books adapted over and over again with diminishing returns in some ways.

* Making Chani into an obnoxious girlboss especially in that second movie was horrible and completely out of character for her character in the books. This really killed things for me because I always loved that character.

* I didn't like that they blew the lid on revealing the Bene Gesserit created the prophecy of Kwisatz Haderach on Arrakis themselves early. It feels like leading the audience by the ear. They should've saved it for later, or leave the audience to connect the dots on their own. It's like Denis and the filmmakers of this were embarrassed about the Fremen (noble space Arabs, basically) and wanted to exonerate them from looking "stupid," I think?

* Timothy Chalamet is a good actor but no matter how much dirt or sand they smear on him he still looks like a skinny 16 year-old boy. Which was fine for maybe the first movie, but now he's supposed to be a grizzled late thirties guy?

* Denis saying he's done after this new movie, only getting us to the end of the second book, with no real hopes thrown out there about somebody else jumping in and going any further. In other words, how do I get excited about them setting out to INTENTIONALLY go even less far in adapting the books before stopping than they did last time, with the Sci-Fi TV series?

[IMJ]

Eh. "Dune" on-film is always going to have to cut things short and out to make it a "movie experience".

To get the "book detail" they'd have to go full-T.V. show for years and quite frankly it wouldn't survive past one or two seasons. This is probably the best we will get, and honestly? Dennis is a terrific, generational director and these are pretty good movies.

I will say that I'm with Daytona though in that the second movie was solid but I felt like it was shot way too dark and didn't inspire that "epic" feeling the same way the first film did. Obviously what they did with Giedi Prime was amazing though....

[Andrew NDB]

To get the "book detail" they'd have to go full-T.V. show for years and quite frankly it wouldn't survive past one or two seasons.

Oh, I don't know. I've often thought about it in depth and "Game of Thrones in Space" could definitely work if they play their cards right and keep the intrigue and up the "Sexy." One season per book, you get a six season show. Seven if they have the balls to do Hunters and Sandworms of Dune (Dune 7). And spinoffs like the Machine Crusade could be amazing. It'd be like the Future War stuff in Terminator but on crack.

[IMJ]

I mean... I would watch it.....
If it launched on Netflix it wouldn't have a chance. They cancel everything.

[Andrew NDB]

It would be HBO Max or it wouldn't be anywhere. Dune: Prophecy is already about to launch season 2 there. And HBO knows a thing or two about long-running hit shows.

[IMJ]

It would be HBO Max or it wouldn't be anywhere. Dune: Prophecy is already about to launch season 2 there. And HBO knows a thing or two about long-running hit shows.

I've been meaning to get around to that one... haven't seen it yet.

[Andrew NDB]

I've been meaning to get around to that one... haven't seen it yet.

It's OK. Decent. Loosely based on part of the Sisterhood of Dune novel.