TMNT comics license (via Paramount) renewed at IDW

[Andrew NDB]

https://comicbook.com/comics/news/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-comics-license-renewed-idw-publishing-40th-anniversary/

I'm seeing this pop up everywhere, in my E-mail, on Google before I even type anything in. Did IDW make this big of a deal about previous renewals with Viacom/Paramount? Maybe we don't realize how close we came this time. ;)

[Cowabung-Gal]

How is IDW even still breathing at this point?

I mean, yeah, there’s Sonic, the Saturday Morning Show series and the Last Ronin sequel, but what else is keeping them from sinking? They lost Transformers and they lost Usagi

[Monty Mole]

How is IDW even still breathing at this point?

I mean, yeah, there’s Sonic, the Saturday Morning Show series and the Last Ronin sequel, but what else is keeping them from sinking? They lost Transformers and they lost Usagi

I'm glad Usagi went back to Dark Horse. IDW doesn't deserve him.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm glad Usagi went back to Dark Horse. IDW doesn't deserve him.

It's kind of meaningless, though. Usagi doesn't really sell much and it's not like either IDW or Dark Horse are ever going to give him sticky notes about what to write or what not to write. It's just a new logo on the cover.

[Jeff]

https://comicbook.com/comics/news/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-comics-license-renewed-idw-publishing-40th-anniversary/

I'm seeing this pop up everywhere, in my E-mail, on Google before I even type anything in. Did IDW make this big of a deal about previous renewals with Viacom/Paramount? Maybe we don't realize how close we came this time. ;)

i don't think it was close, they're jump amping up hype for the 40th. If we were truly close to it not being renewed I doubt they'd be announcing multiple new titles in addition to the few we already have.

[hypered1]

Well it is also IDW's 25th anniversary too.

Also lol at Fred Hembeck's gag turtle Picasso making an appearance above the logo on the cover for #150.

[GameCobra]

That's pretty cool to hear, honestly. Gives more room for the IDW Turtles to be adopted into other universes.

Also, Alopex eating pizza. Please let this be canon.

[BornAgain]

As long as TLR continues I’m happy with the comics for now. Having Eastman at the helm of something with the proper assistance and barely any editorial resistance is pretty damn great.

[CyberCubed]

There's no reason IDW wouldn't renew the license unless Nick was demanding too much money for their percentage of sales or however the deal works, so they're letting the course continue.

Sophie's run is wrapping up in another 4 issues, so I'm interested in seeing what they do post issue 150 anyway.

[TigerClaw]

I'm happy that they renewed the license, Which means we can expect a lot more issues beyond 150.

[Bahamut810]

I'm happy that they renewed the license, Which means we can expect a lot more issues beyond 150.

That depends on the continued existence of IDW. I don't blame them for making as big a deal as they can about this to try to build trust in the continued existence of IDW.

[Roseangelo]

I'm happy that they renewed the license, Which means we can expect a lot more issues beyond 150.

The press release doesn't say anything about there being issues beyond #150.

IDW needed to renew the license for The Last Ronin alone. We have yet to see what else they do.

[MikeandRaph87]

So I am confused about how the Viacom machine works. The article said Paramount, but Viacom bought
TMNT for Nickelodeon. I read that Brian Levine is over both Nickelodeon and Paramount Studios and the properties are interchangeable?


I know Nickelodeon went horribly woke so I guess it endorses the crap Campbell has been spinning out. IDW is dying. I can only assume that what little IDW has it wants to milk The Last Ronin and try try to get a few dollars for the 40th anniversary so Levine has not bothered taking other offers since Nickelodeon does not have a comics division of its own.

[CyberCubed]

So I am confused about how the Viacom machine works. The article said Paramount, but Viacom bought
TMNT for Nickelodeon. I read that Brian Levine is over both Nickelodeon and Paramount Studios and the properties are interchangeable?

Viacom is the overall parent company which owns Paramount, Nick, etc. They're all under the same umbrella.

I know Nickelodeon went horribly woke so I guess it endorses the crap Campbell has been spinning out. IDW is dying. I can only assume that what little IDW has it wants to milk The Last Ronin and try try to get a few dollars for the 40th anniversary so Levine has not bothered taking other offers since Nickelodeon does not have a comics division of its own.

Sophie is leaving after 4 issues. I doubt IDW renewed the license for another 5-issue mini-series like The Last Ronin.

[Andrew NDB]

Viacom is the overall parent company which owns Paramount, Nick, etc. They're all under the same umbrella.

Not anymore. It's all Paramount now, no more Viacom. Viacom doesn't exist now.

[IMJ]

The press release doesn't say anything about there being issues beyond #150.

IDW needed to renew the license for The Last Ronin alone. We have yet to see what else they do.

Exactly. There was no way they were going to let that license go.....

[BornAgain]

TLR2 already going through same type of delays as the first. First issue releasing in March now. Originally solicited for December. They had an excuse for the first series but this is admittedly annoying.

[CyberCubed]

Why is there a narrative going on that IDW TMNT is not continuing passed issue 150 when they said they are and it's not ending? They also still have the Saturday Morning Adventures comics which is ongoing, and another History of the Foot Clan 5-issue mini this year about Karai tying into the main series.

The main series is obviously going to go on for as long as IDW holds the license. I don't know if we'll survive long enough to make it to issue 200 but it's going on for the time being.

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah at this point it seems the IDW TMNT will only end cause the company itself went down rather than the comic itself being cancelled while IDW lives on.

[TheLabRat]

Maybe Campbell will try to do some "reboot (https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/comic/5510432/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-149)" in the Armaggon arc, and introduce some multiverse or something. Although I think this is the worst option.

[CyberCubed]

At this point the series will probably only end when IDW as a whole goes bankrupt or WB buys Paramount and thus they wouldn't need to deal with a licensed comic book company like IDW anymore and DC would just publish TMNT comics themselves after.

The latter is a strong possibility, but if it happens I'm sure IDW will get to do a proper ending since deals take years to close before they're announced.

[Drose18]

"CBR can exclusively reveal that the entire series is concluding as well and several TMNT comics are to follow, with more to be revealed later this month."

https://www.cbr.com/exclusive-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-150-covers/

And then It contradicts itself later in the article. :tlol:

“CBR can also confirm that the new comics will not be reboots. The existing universe of the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles run is moving forward and evolving with IDW”

Maybe this is a way of saying that we won’t be getting 151 and on but will be getting various mini series in the same universe?

[TigerClaw]

And then It contradicts itself later in the article. :tlol:

“CBR can also confirm that the new comics will not be reboots. The existing universe of the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles run is moving forward and evolving with IDW”

Maybe this is a way of saying that we won’t be getting 151 and on but will be getting various mini series in the same universe?
I'm happy that the universe will continue on after the end of its run in the ongoing, The universe has been around for many years, and it has characters that some of us have grown to love, So I look forward to seeing them pop up in other TMNT comics set in the same universe.

[hypered1]

And then It contradicts itself later in the article. :tlol:

“CBR can also confirm that the new comics will not be reboots. The existing universe of the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles run is moving forward and evolving with IDW”

Maybe this is a way of saying that we won’t be getting 151 and on but will be getting various mini series in the same universe?

Well we already know about the 5-issue Foot Clan mini-series by Mateus Santolouco that's coming in a couple of months and Sophie has confirmed that she's going to be involved in at least two other mini-series at some point.

[Andrew NDB]

"CBR can exclusively reveal that the entire series is concluding as well and several TMNT comics are to follow, with more to be revealed later this month."

In other words... sales are down so time for the tried and true "end the volume, wait a bit, start a Vol. 2 with a new #1." This is not something you try when sales are good and where you want them, since you don't want to mess up a good thing. Though with TMNT it'll probably just work the one time, then that's it.

[AlZarkovski]

Renet knew about this and tried to warn, but she was mistaken by the Universe.:tlol:

https://i0.wp.com/blog.gocollect.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/TMNT-SMA-cont-09-Preview-6.jpg

[TigerClaw]

Sophie Campbell posted her final cover for 150.
https://fxtwitter.com/mooncalfe1/status/1745553884767002753

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDlz46OXsAAGTD6?format=jpg&name=medium

[Drose18]

the Donnie covers lately have been out of this world

[hypered1]

Couple of things I've noticed is that the cover price of #150 is $9.99 so it seems it'll be more than double the usual size.
Also the release date of April 10th means it'll be out ahead of the FCBD issue most likely to prevent any spoilers.

[Bahamut810]

In other words... sales are down so time for the tried and true "end the volume, wait a bit, start a Vol. 2 with a new #1." This is not something you try when sales are good and where you want them, since you don't want to mess up a good thing. Though with TMNT it'll probably just work the one time, then that's it.

Could be trying to do what DC is doing with Batman...just spin off your biggest property as many times as people will buy the comics.

Kinda glad that we are getting new though, but very cautious about what the New is going to be.

[CyberCubed]

Comic Book resources probably confused Sophie leaving with issue 150 as the whole series ending, and we know that's not true. The Foot Clan mini is going to still be coming out after issue 150 with Karai and her mutants going to the thin places dimension, so there's no way it's concluding.

[TigerClaw]

Comic Book resources probably confused Sophie leaving with issue 150 as the whole series ending, and we know that's not true. The Foot Clan mini is going to still be coming out after issue 150 with Karai and her mutants going to the thin places dimension, so there's no way it's concluding.
Let's not forget the comics that will feature the Nightwatcher.

And the debut of the IDW version of Umeko aka Ninjara will be appearing in comics post 150 as well.

[Drose18]

Was it confirmed we will get comics focused on the Nightwatcher? It looked more like that would just be one of the mini stories in the new annual to me.

Based on everything, I'm expecting a Volume 2 #1 rather than a #151 but really what is the difference

[hypered1]

Was it confirmed we will get comics focused on the Nightwatcher? It looked more like that would just be one of the mini stories in the new annual to me.

Based on everything, I'm expecting a Volume 2 #1 rather than a #151 but really what is the difference

From the solicitation for the FCBD issue:

First, there is a new masked vigilante in New York, looking to carry on the tradition set by the Turtles themselves. Get a special prelude of the new miniseries, straight from the mind of Juni Ba

[IndigoErth]

If they want to wrap up the long-running arc of the series, fine, but look... don't they dare leave Pepperoni having turned into a humanoid character (https://i.imgur.com/8x6fOuf.jpg) unexplained! :tlol: Not to mention that extra Turtle sitting up there...

[TigerClaw]

If they want to wrap up the long-running arc of the series, fine, but look... don't they dare leave Pepperoni having turned into a humanoid character (https://i.imgur.com/8x6fOuf.jpg) unexplained! :tlol: Not to mention that extra Turtle sitting up there...
I think they can do that on other comics, Also keep in mind that we also have Umeko who Sophie Campbell teased with a concept art back in October, She will appear in the comics post 150.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7fiWofXYAAoGju?format=jpg&name=medium

[CyberCubed]

Yeah I forgot about Ninjara making her IDW debut post issue 150, so the series is obviously still going probably with a new #1. Shame we don't see an "issue 200" though.

[Zulithe]

I know a lot of people grew displeased between issues 101 and 150, I hear ya. But a reboot is not necessarily going to improve things. They could change things in even bigger ways that people won't like. Especially the crowd around here.

If it's a hard reboot, Hold onto your butts.

[CyberCubed]

The Last Ronin series is already the "series reboot" that's why they don't need another.

[IndigoErth]

I think they can do that on other comics, Also keep in mind that we also have Umeko who Sophie Campbell teased with a concept art back in October, She will appear in the comics post 150.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7fiWofXYAAoGju?format=jpg&name=medium
True, I forgot about that tease.

[CyberCubed]

I guess they're going to do a Vol. 2 #1 style restart.

[TigerClaw]

Confirmation that the TMNT universe will continue post 150.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDmqbXPaQAASGBd?format=jpg&name=small

[Tortuglio]

Maybe as Armaggon is the main baddie and apparently there are going to be some time shenanigans, the whole event is gonna end in a "Crisis on infinite earths" type of thing thus rebooting the universe.

[lonewarrior20]

I guess they're going to do a Vol. 2 #1 style restart.

could also do tales with the old line "have i got a story for you."

[TigerClaw]

Since they plan on doing spinoff comics, I think they should do like a spinoff set at Mutant Town, Call it something like Tales of Mutant Town, So that they can tell stories featuring some of the mutanimals, Mona Lisa and the others.

[hypered1]

Confirmation that the TMNT universe will continue post 150.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDmqbXPaQAASGBd?format=jpg&name=small

What platform is that?

[TigerClaw]

What platform is that?
Its from Tumblr, here's the direct link.
https://www.tumblr.com/mooncalfe-art/739267779153281024/is-tmnt-idw-ending-after-150-people-on-twitter?source=share

[CyberCubed]

I don't know why they keep saying spinoffs, we already have a ton of spinoffs and mini-series. We also have two series set in different universes like The Last Ronin and Saturday Morning Adventures already. And the previous non-canon crossovers like the Street Fighter, Power Rangers, Batman ones, etc.

So I guess they just mean more mini series?

[IndigoErth]

Probably a series of shorter stories with the same IDW characters, no? I'd assume Ronin and Saturday Morning, and so forth, would not factor in, being different series entirely.

[Andrew NDB]

In theory yes, they could just do a series of mini-series. Until that's no longer profitable and they just stop. That way nothing is "cancelled," per se. There just stop being new mini-series.

Kind of like the Venom minis in the 90s.

[martinitolove]

Confirmation that the TMNT universe will continue post 150.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDmqbXPaQAASGBd?format=jpg&name=small

Can you please ask her strait if there will be an issue 151?

[CyberCubed]

I think IDW realizes this might be the last year or two of owning the license so they might as well get everything they want to do done. Having multiple issues coming out every month will speed things up than just one main ongoing for the story.

The Last Ronin Part 2 will probably be the end of that series, I don't see much interest in a new generation of Turtles. Saturday Morning Adventures will go on till IDW is done most likely. We already have a 5 issue Foot Clan/Karai mini, another annual, and FCBD day issue all which will be coming post issue 150.

They might as well wrap up the last loose ends with Shredder and send the Triceratons/Utroms back into space with new homeworlds to settle on.

[Bahamut810]

I was thinking on it...I think to try to drum up more funds they are going to try to go the BAtman route...

Multiple titles within the same continuity of different groups.

Which groups would be the question...how about...

1. The Claw Clan - Aleopex, Raph, Nobody and the children
2. The Foot Clan - The foot clan and Casey Jones
3. The Splinter Clan - Leo and the crew that were pointed out to him by Future Lena.
4. Mutant Town - Mikey, Mona Lisa, April and everyone in monster town.

Could there be more or less? Sure...but this would be mirroring what is successful in the Comics industry right now with DC.

[BornAgain]

I think IDW realizes this might be the last year or two of owning the license so they might as well get everything they want to do done. Having multiple issues coming out every month will speed things up than just one main ongoing for the story.

The Last Ronin Part 2 will probably be the end of that series, I don't see much interest in a new generation of Turtles. Saturday Morning Adventures will go on till IDW is done most likely. We already have a 5 issue Foot Clan/Karai mini, another annual, and FCBD day issue all which will be coming post issue 150.

They might as well wrap up the last loose ends with Shredder and send the Triceratons/Utroms back into space with new homeworlds to settle on.

Makes little sense for the last ronin to end anytime soon given the sales, the toyline and the video game adaptation on the way. There will certainly be a third series one way or another.

[Sumac]

Is IDW have resources to pull off multiple series at once?
Like, in three different series (IDW Main, SMA and TLR) + mini-series, since I constantly hear how bad state of the company is?

[TheLabRat]

The Last Ronin Part 2 will probably be the end of that series, I don't see much interest in a new generation of Turtles. Saturday Morning Adventures will go on till IDW is done most likely. We already have a 5 issue Foot Clan/Karai mini, another annual, and FCBD day issue all which will be coming post issue 150.


Kill Mikey was a mistake. Most fans want to see he become Splinter, instead of kill him to replace him with this Rey Skywalker.

[MikeandRaph87]

Kill Mikey was a mistake. Most fans want to see he become Splinter, instead of kill him to replace him with this Rey Skywalker.

Exactly! I thought it would be interesting to see him live for two reasons. As you state, to serve as the master to a new generation, but also even though he succeeded in killing Hiroto him dying as well keeps Hamato from getting the ultimate victory in the end. No one wins if everyone is dead. True a new Turtle generation exists and presumably it's the end of the Oroku line and Foot Clan, but it takes away from Mike's victory with his death. Michaelangelo learned at the beginning of issue #2 the value of his life and need to carry on, that seppuku is a waste. In a sense it's like by killing Michaelangelo off then the book commits seppuku. I don't care about a replacement generation with a couple of females. I am there for Michaelangelo!

[Cowabung-Gal]

#150 is advertised as the must-read conclusion of the ongoing series

https://tmnt-ninjaturtles.com/tmnt-vol-v-150-idw/

So…what, the entire series will be rebooted or something? Like DC’s New 52?

If Jennika is still on board post-150, you guys at IDW can just forget about me giving you a second chance.

[BornAgain]

I might have envisioned a world where Mikey lives on and trains more students but the point is basically Kevin wants to be the one to tell the story of their deaths.

It just sparked more ideas and that’s what we have now. Personally I’ll take it happily because it tastes closer to Mirage than anything we’ve had in probably decades. It’s a genuine Kevin Eastman - TMNT comic without much if any editorial oversight.

I mean, there are a lot of things I’d do differently but the fun is seeing what the creator would do to his own characters as a send-off. I’m not saying the book was perfect but I feel like critiquing it for what it’s not, story-wise, sort of defeats the purpose. If you’d do something differently, it’s your story to tell.

[Sumac]

#150 is advertised as the must-read conclusion of the ongoing series
Maybe it will be like Volume 1 to Volume 2?

[Andrew NDB]

Maybe it will be like Volume 1 to Volume 2?

But maybe not right away. Vol. 1 => a few minis => Vol. 2.

[CyberCubed]

#150 is advertised as the must-read conclusion of the ongoing series

https://tmnt-ninjaturtles.com/tmnt-vol-v-150-idw/

So…what, the entire series will be rebooted or something? Like DC’s New 52?



We know it can't be. The first "Untold History of the Foot Clan" mini comes out before issue 149. Since it's a 4 or 5 parter (I forget which), the next 3 or so issues will be coming out AFTER issue 150. This is about Karai and her mutants, Casey Jones who joined her, Null's mutants who joined her, having their own story arc.

Sophie also showed us the design of IDW's Ninjara who will be introduced in the series after issue 150. I'm also pretty sure the next annual and Free comic book day issues come out after issue 150 with stories in the universe.

They are probably just starting with a new #1 to attract new readers but the IDW universe isn't ending.

[Sumac]

They are probably just starting with a new #1 to attract new readers but the IDW universe isn't ending.
Given that a lot of people were soured with Mutant Town nonsense, it is justified.

Now the question is, will the writing become better...

[Jeff]

If Jennika is still on board post-150, you guys at IDW can just forget about me giving you a second chance.

Bye. I'm sure the people who weren't reading before who buy-into a new #1 will make up for the missing $3.99 from your pocket.

[TigerClaw]

Im all for a new spinoff comic with Jennika, I enjoyed reading her miniseries.

[CyberCubed]

For the last time, Sophie confirmed it already on twitter, read these two posts:

https://twitter.com/mooncalfe1/status/1745871076964323553

Despite what some people are saying, IDW TMNT is NOT ending at #150!! The announcement article even says it's not ending! Come on, guys. It's getting a new writer and some new spin-offs, that's all.

https://twitter.com/mooncalfe1/status/1746034362519302579

She just doesn't know if the next issue will be called #151 or a new #1.

[Sumac]

I would consider it a pretty big change.
At the very least, from the point of view of logistics.

[GameCobra]

I am intrigued, but what i'm really not liking about this is it appears that from the look of panel 150, it looks like from the ripples in the pond, Jennika is indeed staying with the turtles and Alopex is going to do her own thing. I do think Alopex can hold her own, but to me it just doesn't make too much sense for Alopex to go off and do her own thing after she got her green bandana. It feels... forced.

I do like Jennika. She is a simple foot soldier that worked her way up to the turtles and became a turtle. but I don't like how they are pushing Jennika with the turtles without Alopex. Alopex is just as important to the turtles as Jennika. It still makes no sense to me why Alopex isn't sticking around with Jennika. The two of them are basically adopted from the Foot Clan to the Splinter clan and giving them some great tools to work with: Jennika being street-wise and a former human while Alopex is a trained hunter, originaly Shredder's first fully trained mutant and likes the turtles in general.

This year does look pretty promising, so i'm just hoping my frustration with the way the story is going is answered this year.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Bye. I'm sure the people who weren't reading before who buy-into a new #1 will make up for the missing $3.99 from your pocket.

It will soon be $4.99 thanks to inflation. Need to save as much as I can for more important stuff in this abysmal economy anyway.

Hardly anyone is buying Campbell’s run at our local comic store. Meanwhile, Usagi Yojimbo: Snow and Ice #4 sold like hotcakes this week

[TheLabRat]

The series may still be partially rebooted after Armaggon arc. Maybe Jennika will become Yoshi's biological daughter and four turtle's elder sister in her past life. To think of this worst possibility makes me creepy.

[CyberCubed]

Well it depends what the new writer wants to do, but I think as a whole they'll just move away from mutant town (granted Sophie's run has already done that), and maybe write out Jennika like Alopex was. Venus will probably stick around.

Also depends if Armaggon is fully defeated at issue 150 or they intend to keep it around, the way its written Armaggon is not really a "character" in this series so I think it'll just be short-lived.

[TigerClaw]

Well it depends what the new writer wants to do, but I think as a whole they'll just move away from mutant town (granted Sophie's run has already done that), and maybe write out Jennika like Alopex was. Venus will probably stick around.

Also depends if Armaggon is fully defeated at issue 150 or they intend to keep it around, the way its written Armaggon is not really a "character" in this series so I think it'll just be short-lived.
Nah, I think they can do a spinoff set in Mutant Town.

[IndigoErth]

Hope Alopex comes back into the fold at some point, but the distance could also simply be convenient for Raph to move on later if he and Ninjara are a thing again?

[TigerClaw]

Hope Alopex comes back into the fold at some point, but the distance could also simply be convenient for Raph to move on later if he and Ninjara are a thing again?
The most recent issue hinted at Raph and Umeko aka Ninjara, So its possible that a future issue we'll see those two hook up at some point.

[Wednesday's Serial]

Jason Aaron? Ick

[TheLabRat]

Exactly! I thought it would be interesting to see him live for two reasons. As you state, to serve as the master to a new generation, but also even though he succeeded in killing Hiroto him dying as well keeps Hamato from getting the ultimate victory in the end. No one wins if everyone is dead. True a new Turtle generation exists and presumably it's the end of the Oroku line and Foot Clan, but it takes away from Mike's victory with his death. Michaelangelo learned at the beginning of issue #2 the value of his life and need to carry on, that seppuku is a waste. In a sense it's like by killing Michaelangelo off then the book commits seppuku. I don't care about a replacement generation with a couple of females. I am there for Michaelangelo!
The idea of Marie being a mutant is kind of silly, and it make me feel bad for Casey because he got cucked.