Jurassic World 4

[Andrew NDB]

wtf... they're actually making another one? Why? Dominion was like the worst fu**ing thing ever.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/koepp-set-to-write-new-jurassic-world/

[The Deadman]

Yeah JWD wasnt the worst thing ever, lol.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah JWD wasnt the worst thing ever, lol.

I dunno. It had so much potential and it seemed like a thing very difficult, if not impossible to screw up. They screwed up. I don't remember coming out of a movie theater that upset for a good long while.

[Xav]

What didn't you like about it?

[Roseangelo]

Universal has too much money invested in the Jurassic IP in general to not make another movie, honestly.

Their theme parks revolve around ET, Jaws, Back to the Future, and Jurassic Park/World. And those first three aren't making any more movies.

[Autbot_Benz]

The JP Franchise should have ended after JP3

[Sumac]

JP franchise should have never been a franchise in the first place.
Only JP1 is a legitimately good movie.

All sequels are lacking something which made first movie special.

[sdp]

Well the original writer is on board, some sites are already calling it a reboot and a new beginning but I think it'll be a continuation with a new cast and not a remake/reboot. Jurassic Park 7 though it'll likely feel a lot more like the superhero like Jurassic World movies.

The original writer is back. I'd hope for a remake that is faithful to the book but that would be R rated so it's not happening. I'd also prefer a prequel or if it took place between the trilogies but it also doesn't seem likely. I mean in a world where dinosaurs exist? Ugh, I hate that idea. The only way it can work is if they make it in a small setting for survival, none of this superhero end of the world stuff again. I think Jurassic World 2 and 3 had a lot of ways of messing things up big time, so I actually like that they somehow avoided the Jurassic World War thing the first JW movie implied. Still I prefer Jurassic Park in a smaller setting with smaller stakes, more personal..
Only JP1 is a legitimately good movie.

All sequels are lacking something which made first movie special.
The sequels are fun dinosaur movies I don't mind more, but yeah nothing can touch the first movie since it tells the whole story in one movie, no need for more. No sequel could ever come near it. But I'd still prefer a higher quality dinosaur movie over nothing.

I dunno. It had so much potential and it seemed like a thing very difficult, if not impossible to screw up. They screwed up. I don't remember coming out of a movie theater that upset for a good long while.
How was it impossible to screw up? What did you expect from the movie?

I was extremely worried for JW3, JW1 hinted at Jurassic War, and luckily JW2 avoided it but the ending left it pretty much for the final movie and yet the final movie was able to not do this horrible concept. It also brought back the original actors and gave them a reason as to why they would be together again. It made no sense for these characters to ever team up again for something and yet the movie did it in a way that didn't feel awful. I mean it's still unrealistic but so were any scenes with Chris Pratt surviving dinosaurs in the trilogy so I was ok with it. I dunno I had really low expectations because of all the ways they could mess it up and somehow they kept it all in a "smaller scale" by it taking place in biosyn's lair instead of some world war plot with dinosaurs.

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I mean I like all the movies because they're fun dino action. my ranking:

JP1: A true classic I would not feel embarrased to recommend.
JW1: great requel, superhero fight at the end felt unecessary. Still my fav. sequel
JP3: Simple short story but because of that it works, didn't try to be more.
JW2FK: Love the mansion setting so much that I forgive the superhero fight at the end and the ending.
JW3D: Not doing Jurassic World War was a win. Giving somewhat believable reasons for returning cast. I can't hate it. Fun dino action.
JP2TLW:It's missing something, the setting and idea is good, it just lacked execution.
Here's a little problem...
There isn't much competition, outside of Jurassic it's low budget b-movies. 65 was not good. So I stand that they're fun dino movies. They will never be classics like the original.
Michael Crichton is dead.
Sadly Crichton would've never written a third novel even if he were still alive. Not that it means anything since the studios decide what the movie will be about but its the original writer of the first movie.

[Roseangelo]

Well the original writer is on board.

Michael Crichton is dead.

[Sumac]

But I'd still prefer a higher quality dinosaur movie over nothing.
Here's a little problem...

[Wildcat]

I liked all the World movies. I think Lost World and Part 3 were the weakest. So I’m excited to see what’s next. I knew they’d do another one eventually. Just surprised it’s this soon.

[member_removed]

Michael Crichton is dead.

Nah, they found his blood in a mosquito in fossilised amber.

They got an idea from a movie.

[IMJ]

I still haven't seen the last one. I thought the first Chris Pratt movie was really good actually. Not a fan though when the dinosaurs are brought into the city.

Adam Driver's 65 was actually pretty entertaining. Not super good or anything, but at least it was a new take on the dinosaur thing.

[ZariusTwo]

I liked the first Jurassic World too, Fallen Kingdom was like watching the best cutscenes of a really bad video game though

[joe-eyeball]

I liked the first Jurassic World too, Fallen Kingdom was like watching the best cutscenes of a really bad video game though

Yeah Fallen Kingdom was terrible and Dominion was somehow even worse. They need to let this franchise go extinct for a while.

[Andrew NDB]

Honestly I'd probably rate them in the exact order they came out, from best to worst. And JW1 is just a requel, so low points there.

What didn't you like about it?

Everything about it. And I wasn't super looking forward to it but I fully expected a "good time at the movies," at the very least, given the "stuffed" cast and old favorites and all. What could go wrong? Turns out a lot. It's just like the worst screenplay imaginable. There should be classes taught about how to avoid everything they did here. There are no discernible character arcs or even any reason for being there for the O.G. cast, at least in any ways that pay off. The clone melodrama is nonsense. The locusts sideplot was a big waste. Literal black Han Solo woman with her own Millennium Falcon exists in the movie just to mock the audience, really. Just bad! Appallingly bad. If you think Trevorrow would have saved the Star Wars sequel trilogy you need to get your head checked.

"Dinosaurs are loose everywhere in the world, and Grant, Ellie and Malcolm must team up with the Owen, Claire and Maisie!" Like, stop right there. That's great! That's what we've been waiting for. It writes itself. Any hack writer off the street statistically has about a 99% better chance of writing something more satisfying in that regard than what we got. Like, this took some doing to get it as bad as it is. Somehow it's, let's add Mission: Impossible stuff with bio-engineered locusts, shadowy diabolical figures and conspiracies and melodrama and garbage when it needed absolutely NONE of that stuff.

[Roseangelo]

Sadly Crichton would've never written a third novel even if he were still alive. Not that it means anything since the studios decide what the movie will be about but its the original writer of the first movie.

He didn't even want to write The Lost World, but did from the copious amount of pressure for a sequel.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I liked the first Jurassic world, hated the second, gave up on third after about 10 minutes. Can only imagine how bad the next will be.

I actually like all 3 of the JP movies.:):P

[IMJ]

hated the second

The instant they sailed away from the island on the vessel the movie turned to crap.

[Wildcat]

I don’t remember if I said this before but those criticizing Dominion saying it should have just been about dinosaurs causing trouble everywhere...that would NOT have worked. It seems like it would but it wouldn’t.

Part of the point was that dinosaurs are now common place living among us. It starts with them rescuing one and they quickly admit it’s not possible to keep that up. So catching them or stopping them all could not be a storyline.

There had to be a cohesive plot that the new and original characters could be a part of. Rescue Maisie/stop Dodgson is actually a good way for them to travel around with dinosaurs getting in the way. They’re not the “villain” anymore they’re the obstacle.

If it was just about dinosaurs wrecking havoc it would go nowhere. There’d be encounters and attacks anywhere. This could work for a tv series with self contained episodes but a main cast needs a purpose to go do something.

[Andrew NDB]

I don’t remember if I said this before but those criticizing Dominion saying it should have just been about dinosaurs causing trouble everywhere...that would NOT have worked. It seems like it would but it wouldn’t.

#1, there weren't enough dinosaurs in that room ready to escape at the end of "Fallen Kingdom" to make dinosaurs "commonplace" among us. So that's already a stupid premise off the bat. But whatever, here we are anyway.

#2, sure it could've worked. Forget about bio-engineered locust conspiracies and the other garbage. Just off the top of my head, T-rexes and other dinosaurs are drawn to a particular part of the globe because of "perfect" weather conditions, but it happens to be an oil town with a lot of development in it. A company brings in Grant, Ellie, etc., to brainstorm how to get them all out "legally," while a third party comes in to just try and kill the dinosaurs when they "fail."

[Wildcat]

#2, sure it could've worked. Forget about bio-engineered locust conspiracies and the other garbage. Just off the top of my head, T-rexes and other dinosaurs are drawn to a particular part of the globe because of "perfect" weather conditions, but it happens to be an oil town with a lot of development in it. A company brings in Grant, Ellie, etc., to brainstorm how to get them all out "legally," while a third party comes in to just try and kill the dinosaurs when they "fail."

But removing them from 1 place is basically Fallen Kingdom again.

I agree it does not seem like enough dinosaurs for them to be common place yet but that’s the way it’s presented. Saving 1 town/city would not accomplish anything. What about the rest of the dinosaurs out there? Even in real life we can’t just remove an entire species from one part of the globe...and we don’t have anything as big as a T-Rex.

[Powder]

I liked JW well enough the first time. Second time, significantly less so, but mostly due to what I felt was questionable acting. I liked the plot & execution of most things well enough in both instances.

JW 2, I pretty much hated outright. The direction/plot, the new characters, the acting, it really challenged my ability to suspend disbelief, which is really saying a lot considering the previous four films. Absolutely lost me from the point of killing off the original Brontosaurus or whatever. Then the Raptors doing martial arts & stuff, ridiculous. Some of the concepts could've been cool I guess but it was just away too dumb & Michael Bay-ish for me.

JW I liked a lot. It made up for elements of its predecessors I didn't care for, felt a bit more grounded/realistic, nice to have the return of those previous characters, all done justice (IMO). Not the most interesting or ground-breaking stuff but thoroughly entertaining & competantly done.

But like, eh, I'm not exactly pining for more. I love the original trilogy & like the new one, but they're not gonna top what came before & I can't think of too many ways of building upon it that would be necessary or intriguing. I'll still peep it, though. Dinosaurs.

[TheCanadiandrome]

JP franchise should have never been a franchise in the first place.
Only JP1 is a legitimately good movie.

All sequels are lacking something which made first movie special.

this is true, but seeing as Michael Crichton wrote two books, hense more movies i guess, i dunno lol

Universal has too much money invested in the Jurassic IP in general to not make another movie, honestly.

Their theme parks revolve around ET, Jaws, Back to the Future, and Jurassic Park/World. And those first three aren't making any more movies.

this is true. but who would want more ET or Jaws movies? out of all of them, only BTTF and JP are worthy of more movies imo. ET never left it open for a sequel, and there's too many Jaws movies

[Sumac]

this is true, but seeing as Michael Crichton wrote two books, hense more movies i guess, i dunno lol
He wrote a second book only after success of the movie. Or rather he was practically bullied into it. So, whether it counts or not is anyone's guess.

[ProphetofGanja]

this is true, but seeing as Michael Crichton wrote two books, hense more movies i guess, i dunno lol



this is true. but who would want more ET or Jaws movies? out of all of them, only BTTF and JP are worthy of more movies imo. ET never left it open for a sequel, and there's too many Jaws movies

Solution: a crossover sequel to both Jaws and E.T. :lol:

[TheCanadiandrome]

He wrote a second book only after success of the movie. Or rather he was practically bullied into it. So, whether it counts or not is anyone's guess.

oh i wasn't aware the second book came after, i thiought both were done before the movies, hense why almost nothing in either book is in the movies

Solution: a crossover sequel to both Jaws and E.T. :lol:

ET need bigger boat :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

oh i wasn't aware the second book came after, i thiought both were done before the movies, hense why almost nothing in either book is in the movies


It's why Dr. Malcolm inexplicably came back to life in the second book. He knew he was basically writing the reverse of a movie novel adaptation, at that point.

[TheCanadiandrome]

It's why Dr. Malcolm inexplicably came back to life in the second book. He knew he was basically writing the reverse of a movie novel adaptation, at that point.

i didn't even think of it that way

[sdp]

They announced a release date for Jul 2025 so just barely over a year from now and the attached director from when this was announced already bailed out for it being too rushed and no room for new ideas. lol
This will get delayed for sure but it definitely doesn't inspire any confidence.

to answer the question about why so many dinosaurs, this is actually expanded on some of the spin-off material like viral websites, games, the tv show, motion comic etc. It's basically a callback to the original JP novel that dinosaurs had already made their way into the mainland even before they were "released" from the mansion at the end of Fallen Kingdom. Life finds a way.
Basically since Jurassic World fell people had already been pillaging the park for fauna and taken specimens out. Stuff had already been sold in the black market as we saw in Fallen Kingdom and companies like Biosyn and Mantacorp were stealing dinos from Isla Sorna and Nublar for years doing shady businesses. So yeah dinosaurs are plentyful and no longer "containable" which is why they just live with humans, but there's still not specimens everywhere.

[TheCanadiandrome]

They announced a release date for Jul 2025 so just barely over a year from now and the attached director from when this was announced already bailed out for it being too rushed and no room for new ideas. lol
This will get delayed for sure but it definitely doesn't inspire any confidence.

to answer the question about why so many dinosaurs, this is actually expanded on some of the spin-off material like viral websites, games, the tv show, motion comic etc. It's basically a callback to the original JP novel that dinosaurs had already made their way into the mainland even before they were "released" from the mansion at the end of Fallen Kingdom. Life finds a way.
Basically since Jurassic World fell people had already been pillaging the park for fauna and taken specimens out. Stuff had already been sold in the black market as we saw in Fallen Kingdom and companies like Biosyn and Mantacorp were stealing dinos from Isla Sorna and Nublar for years doing shady businesses. So yeah dinosaurs are plentyful and no longer "containable" which is why they just live with humans, but there's still not specimens everywhere.
kinda has a "Flintstones" vibe to it almost lol

[Andrew NDB]

Scarlet Johansson is leading it.


https://www.darkhorizons.com/scarjo-set-for-new-jurassic-world/

[Andrew NDB]

Title may be "Jurassic World Rebirth."

https://www.darkhorizons.com/next-jurassic-world-gets-a-title/

[The Deadman]

Jurassic World: Rebirth sounds like a horror movie and im all for it.

[Andrew NDB]

Jurassic World: Rebirth sounds like a horror movie and im all for it.

Honestly they might as well. The "adventure/action" thing they've been on with them isn't working.

[neatoman]

So did anything important actually happen in the last movie? Can they please just adapt the part in the second book where the Dinosaurs just got brain rot and died already?

[Wildcat]

^ Haha what? Never realized Scarlett Johansson is the same age as me. Looked it up after reading that.

Making it a midquel is interesting but I don’t know it seems like a big step backwards. I prefer a sequel that does something in civilization.

I still think a tv series would be better. So many locations you can set different stories in. I’m definitely still excited for another movie though.

[The Deadman]

They technically do have the animated show on Netflix that's taking place at the same time as the movies.

[Wildcat]

They technically do have the animated show on Netflix that's taking place at the same time as the movies.I haven’t seen it but I’d like too. It takes place in civilization now right? I looked up a few episode descriptions. I know it started on the islands.

[The Deadman]

I haven’t seen it but I’d like too. It takes place in civilization now right? I looked up a few episode descriptions. I know it started on the islands.

The first show takes place during the events of Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom. Chaos Theory takes place during Dominion.

[TigerClaw]

Jurassic World: Rebirth sounds like a horror movie and im all for it.
Here's the first trailer, Also they are going with a more horror movie route with this one, The previous movies were more family friendly adventure movies.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/jurassic-world-rebirth-first-look

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In this one, They go to the island that was a research facility to the first Jurassic Park, They need to collect some samples after they made a medical breakthrough for humanity, On it they will encounter the dinosaurs that were too dangerous for the park, So expect some mutant Dinosaurs.

[sdp]

As the biggest jurassic park fan on the technodrome. I'm curious, but not exactly hyped. Too many red flags though for some reason I have a feeling it'll actually be good. But who knows, so far it looks like it could go wrong very wrong.

Even if it's good I hope it bombs so they stop Making sequels for a while.

[Wildcat]

Really cool looking. Love the different colors for the dinosaurs. I was a little disappointed they went back to setting it on an island but it does look really good. Very atmospheric.

[Andrew NDB]

So they're going back to "if we want dinos, we gotta go back to the island" again? I thought there were like 10 million throughout the world now, despite there only being like 30 dinos in that room at the end of Fallen Kingdom.

[sdp]

So they're going back to "if we want dinos, we gotta go back to the island" again? I thought there were like 10 million throughout the world now, despite there only being like 30 dinos in that room at the end of Fallen Kingdom.

The synopsis reads that they need the DNA of a few specific dinosaurs to be able to cure heart disease. They also clarified in am interview that Dinosaurs were not able to thrive on earth so after reaching a population peak around the time of Dominion(last movie), they started to die after that, so Dinosaurs only live in specific areas of the earth now.

[IMJ]

Let's face it - Jurassic Park is only good when it's people in a jungle or natural environment against Dinosaurs. Everytime it involves a "city" or "the populated world" it sucks.

I really liked the the first one with Chris Pratt, but hated the second one. I still haven't seen the third one that brought Sam Neil back.

So basically this is another in-continuity "reboot" (irony). It looks alright.

[TigerClaw]

Let's face it - Jurassic Park is only good when it's people in a jungle or natural environment against Dinosaurs. Everytime it involves a "city" or "the populated world" it sucks.

I really liked the the first one with Chris Pratt, but hated the second one. I still haven't seen the third one that brought Sam Neil back.

So basically this is another in-continuity "reboot" (irony). It looks alright.
One of my favorite moments was in The Lost World: Jurassic Park, When the T-Rex was in San Diego, That was peak.

[frank_one]

Let's face it - Jurassic Park is only good when it's people in a jungle or natural environment against Dinosaurs.No. It's only good when there's a good story and a good direction.

[sdp]

What if it's a good story but it has a ****ing mutant creature as the big bad?
I think that's what this movie will be, a good movie but it won't feel very Jurassic at all.
I hope it does bad even if I think it'll be good. I don't want mutant clones in my Jurassic park going forward. I'd rather reboot.

[IMJ]

One of my favorite moments was in The Lost World: Jurassic Park, When the T-Rex was in San Diego, That was peak.

That's cool if you liked those moments. That particular instance was cool because we hadn't seen it before - like when the T-Rex was drinking out of the pool. But I just come back to - it's better in an undeveloped environment.

No. It's only good when there's a good story and a good direction.

Well said, I suppose. But even then I come back to - all of the better story elements then have traditionally taken place in a "jungle". But yeah what you said there is the point, really.

I just don't view "Jurassic Park" as "Godzilla" - better as a mixture of animal and nature than a mixture of animal and urban living.

[Andrew NDB]

Personally I just feel apathy bordering on anger for this one. I'm never coming "back." "Dominion" really, really pissed me off and was the first one that felt insultingly bad to me, and it kills me that it was positioned as like the "Avengers" of the Jurassic movies and it still went out like that.

[sdp]

I liked Dominion, but I was just glad it was not Jurassic World War like the previous two movies hinted at. Having the original cast made no sense but I took it as fun nostalgia and at least they gave them something that could technically feel "ok" for them to do.
The Jurassic World trilogy went for a less realistic more action type movies with superhero like final battles in the end but it had enough Jurassic that I was able to overlook it.

This movie on the other hand will have a mutant Xenomorph/Rancor/ mutant ape like creature that was created before any dinosaurs. Even if the rest of the movie is amazing, that's still a "that's not jurassic park" moment for me.

Also why is Scarlett Jojanson's wrinkly old ass mug in this movie, it’s not 2010 anymore, she's in her 40s now, way past her prime. They should've gotten some Zoomer girl, especially since this is as expected meant to be a trilogy. Do we really want a near 50 year old Scarlet Johanson escaping from dinosaurs in the third movie?

the mutant creature in question, you can see him a bit in the trailer https://i.4cdn.org/tv/1738880077987719.png https://i.4cdn.org/tv/1738880077987719.png

[IMJ]

Peak-Johansson was the Luc Besson masterpiece "Lucy". And then her other peak was when she ran around fully naked for that weird, artsy alien flick that she made.

God now that I've said that I want to go on a Luc Besson tear and sit through at least 4 or 5 of his movies again. It's been years....

[sdp]

Well I watched Jurassic World Rebirth, one of the better Jurassic Park sequels (https://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-world-rebirth/). It's very like a side story movie but that's for the best, it has some of the best dinosaur scenes the franchise has ever had. The mutants are the worst part but they're only there in the last 15 minutes, they feel like the studio forced it on them to have something to market the movie and they do almost ruin the movie but the rest of the movie makes up for it. my full review: https://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-world-rebirth/ (https://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-world-rebirth)

[neatoman]

"We need DNA of the biggest archosaurs to ever live because it will make good heart medication" has to be the single weirdest justification ever to set the plot in motion. I was expecting it to be a lie and that they wanted the DNA for something else but... Nope... It's heart medication. Oh, and they decide to not patent it in the end because bla bla big pharma bad bla bla bla, as if the patents won't expire eventually and people can't learn from them in the meantime...

As for the new big bad dino... I mean... I know there are no true dinosaurs in the series, they're basically just mutant frogs with some real dinosaur DNA thrown in but... This thing looks more like it stepped out of Jumba's lab than a dino. Maybe they should just give up on the dinosaur angle and just make it a series about genetic engineering?

That said, yeah it's technically one of the better ones but it's still really dumb...

[Coola Yagami]

Also why is Scarlett Jojanson's wrinkly old ass mug in this movie, it’s not 2010 anymore, she's in her 40s now, way past her prime. They should've gotten some Zoomer girl, especially since this is as expected meant to be a trilogy. Do we really want a near 50 year old Scarlet Johanson escaping from dinosaurs in the third movie?



Honestly mostly watching it cause ScarJo is in it. Would still smash. Though time waits for no one and I admit if she is set to be in this trilogy, my opinion might change by the time she gets to the third one.

I mean, sure she's in her 40's now, but I mean... so am I. I guess it's different when you're kid checking out whoever is hot at the time then when you hit adulthood and you're around the same age as who's hot at the time.

[sdp]

She was fine in the movie, I mean her character was not meant to be treated as sexy and she doesn't come off as "the action man" like say Chris Pratt did in the previous Jurassic movies, she's far more human.
The movie doesn't set up a trilogy thank God, and truthfully even though I liked the character there's no need for her to come back for a sequel.
I was afraid of how they would use her but they did a good job and she fit the role, someone younger wouldn't have. Overall almost every character was done well even with a simple plot.

[Andrew NDB]

Was there any more mutant locust hordes?

[neatoman]

Was there any more mutant locust hordes?

No, though I have noticed that they branched out to extinct amphibians, which is funny because all the cloned "dinosaurs" were always canonically mutant frogs in the first place. There is also some creature in the water that we never see in full, so I can't tell if it's snake-like or had a tentacle.

Notably there are two weird mutant creatures, a flock of what looks like a combination of pterosaurs and sauropods, as well as the "D-Rex" which looks like... Uh, the Rancor from Star Wars with an extra set of smaller arms... Or a circumcised penis with teeth...

[Andrew NDB]

No, though I have noticed that they branched out to extinct amphibians, which is funny because all the cloned "dinosaurs" were always canonically mutant frogs in the first place.

Didn't they just use frogs as incubators? i.e., no DNA passing between frog and embryo?

[neatoman]

Didn't they just use frogs as incubators? i.e., no DNA passing between frog and embryo?

No, they used frog DNA. They explicitly stated that the DNA was incomplete and needed to be patched, thus they used frog DNA. In fact, the frog DNA is an important plot point in the first movie, as it is was allowed the dinosaurs metamorphose into males to get around the scientists' making them all female to avoid reproduction.
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And the book (as well as World 1) does double down on the idea that the "dinosaurs" really are just superficial imitations of dinosaurs created using more DNA from various different modern creatures.

[Andrew NDB]

Oh yeah, I remember now.

[Andrew NDB]

I saw it today, at the wife's behest. It actually isn't that bad. It manages to make the dinos scary again, at least. And I appreciated the fairly straight forward story (albeit predictable... I was able to accurately predict who would die right off the bat) without all of the weird clone melodrama of the last couple and cardboard, token DEI characters cluttering up things (like the black female Han Solo in the last one).

Scarlet and Mahersala's characters were likeable enough. The doctor guy was pretty annoying. The lazy kid had a decent enough arc and sort of won me over, though they forget about him in the third act and gave him nothing else to do. The cute little itty bitty dinosaur I thought was going to have some payoff at some point... like maybe Momma and/or Daddy dinosaur show up and save the heroes from an attacking dinosaur or something. But no. There was nothing. Apparently they just really wanted the main characters to have a cute little itty bitty dinosaur traveling with them so that was that. Must be a "trilogy thing."

I did note something pretty weird. It's in the rather long scene early on where Scarlet and Mahersala's characters are just sitting at a table on the boat reciting a lot of "humanizing" dialogue to explain their history and character traits. Mahersala has a story about how he lost his child somehow and then broke up with his wife because they couldn't bare to look at each other because the other spouse just reminded them of the child they lost. Then in turn, Scarlet has a story that is obviously her talking about an ex-boyfriend who died at her side... but then the movie cuts to the back of her head and there is some very, VERY obvious ADR inserted where she says, "Yeah. It really sucked having to tell his wife what happened" (and it doesn't even sound like the rest of her audio there at all). Like, they didn't want to give her an ex-boyfriend for some reason in the editing room. Why? To leave her sexuality ambiguous, is that it? So they can leave "maybe we make her a lesbian" in a future movie on the table or something? Very stupid.

Also, the D-Rex looks hauntingly similar to the Hell Knight from the Doom 2016 game.

https://images.app.goo.gl/UqPNp9VaLd68CGNy7

[ranger_scout]

I saw the film on Wednesday and Saturday, and I was on the edge of my seat both times. It turns out that there are more stories to tell with this new cast of characters.

[IMJ]

I haven't watched this yet, but I did watch Jurassic World Dominion for the first time.

To be honest I think the hate that one gets is way misplaced and I loved seeing the original cast again. Some of the criticisms are clearly sound (i.e., not enough dinosaurs, and the locust plot, etc) but sound or not none of that bothered me.

It was cool seeing everyone come together. I always loved Dr. Grant.

[Darth Knuckles]

Then in turn, Scarlet has a story that is obviously her talking about an ex-boyfriend who died at her side... but then the movie cuts to the back of her head and there is some very, VERY obvious ADR inserted where she says, "Yeah. It really sucked having to tell his wife what happened" (and it doesn't even sound like the rest of her audio there at all). Like, they didn't want to give her an ex-boyfriend for some reason in the editing room. Why? To leave her sexuality ambiguous, is that it? So they can leave "maybe we make her a lesbian" in a future movie on the table or something? Very stupid.


I actually just thought that Scarlett's character was talking about her partner out in the field, another mercenary, that she lost out on a mission. That's how I heard that scene personally. I think that makes sense of the having to tell his wife comment too.

[Andrew NDB]

I actually just thought that Scarlett's character was talking about her partner out in the field, another mercenary, that she lost out on a mission. That's how I heard that scene personally. I think that makes sense of the having to tell his wife comment too.

Oh no. It was definitely a conversation about an ex until that ADR line made it not be. Plus if it was just an ex business partner that wouldn't be remotely equivalent to what Mahersala was talking about.

[sdp]

I'm just happy they retconned the dinosaurs everywhere, Jurassic Park
works better with a smaller setting, like we still have dinos in the mainland but on a smaller scale, they can have a kick ass movie set in a small town being attacked by Raptors for example, something similar happened in the first novel. This isn't Cadillacs & Dinosaurs to have dinosaurs everywhere on earth.

As much as i liked the cast I don't want them to return, they have no reason to, Scarlett's character will just devolve to action hero like Chris Pratt's did and makes it even easier to know who will survive. A whole new cast each movie is fine. The original cast got a nice send off in Dominion as did the JW cast.

Seems like the movie will do good at the B.O. so I hope Jurassic Park 8 avoids being absolutely terrible like 7 somehow did.

I haven't watched this yet, but I did watch Jurassic World Dominion for the first time.

To be honest I think the hate that one gets is way misplaced and I loved seeing the original cast again. Some of the criticisms are clearly sound (i.e., not enough dinosaurs, and the locust plot, etc) but sound or not none of that bothered me.

It was cool seeing everyone come together. I always loved Dr. Grant.

It does get too much hate, the locust plot is barely important, it's just there to give an excuse as to why the old cast is even returning. What bothered me was the Dr. Wu redemption arc, he needed to die like in the novel. I also hated the retcon of the little girl Maisie. It was far more interesting and ****ed up if Ben Lockwood had used the technology to clone his daughter like they heavily implied in the previous movie. Trevorrow also understood that dinosaurs everywhere you can only make a movie that isn't Jurassic Park, so he also artificially made the playroom smaller by having it all be at BioSyn's facilities.

[Andrew NDB]

As much as i liked the cast I don't want them to return

It might be fun to see Scarlet reunite with Star Lord in the next one. But what would the next one even be about?

* The itty bitty cutesy dinosaur has to figure into things, somehow. They made it a point to have the characters take it home with them after it didn't contribute anything to the plot at all. And if it doesn't figure into a sequel's plot... wtf?

* Scarlet and that Doctor guy are going to "give it to the world" regarding the dinosaur DNA cure for heart conditions. But maybe they do this and there's weird complications for the people who receive these genetic treatments?

No idea beyond those two items.

[sdp]

The cute dinosaur was mostly there since they wanted to have a "Baby Yoda" marketable dinosaur. They actually already had one on the Jurassic World netflix cartoon called Bumpy and was very popular with merchandise, so here they tried to replilcate it but for a wider audience. I don't think there's much more to her, though if merch sells I'm sure she'll be in future movies.

I'd prefer a reboot based on the book but that's not likely since it's less marketable and would need to be rated R which they are not going to do. I'm ok with a prequel to JP1 or wouldn't mind if they made a movie only exploring hybrids, something like the 90s jurassic park toyline Chaos Effect that had hybrid dinosaurs with weird 90s extreme colors and a t-rex with triceratops horns etc. I mean the JW trilogy kept it mostly still "dinosaur looking" with the indominus rex and indoraptor, but now that we have Rancor Rex might as well go all out like the Kenner toyline.

Although most likely they'll go a more predictable route of "the open source DNA is being used in bad ways by some people, send agent Zora Benett and her team to take care of it". I mean there's going to be a sequel since it makes money but they're for sure noticing that each Jurassic World movie has done less at the Box Office than the original.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm ok with a prequel to JP1

There might be something to that. Plus they can bring back the "Jurassic Park" title, with or without a subtitle. "Jurassic Park: Genesis" or something.

There's definitely enough stuff going on at the Park and with the scientists prior to the first movie to cobble together something. It'd just be a little bit difficult to find a story that has scale, still manages to put people in terrible danger that "is never mentioned again" in the original JP movie or anything.

[neatoman]

I think the idea of doing a prequel set before the original movie seems kinda like a bad idea, wasn't the point of the first movie that they thought they had things under control despite the mauling at the start? If they had another disaster before that, how does that even make sense? Unless you want the prequel to be a bunch of scientist sitting around doing DNA analysis, I can't really imagine there being much. Maybe you could ring some sort of ethics drama out of it but that sounds like a pretty weird direction to go.

[sdp]

The 90s Topps comics made like 3 separate prequel comics and they were basically the best stories they had to offer. Two of them were park related, I think they had no deaths, but it still had something believable that didn't affect the original film. The other story was inspired by the book where some dinosaurs were in a central American village and they were eating the residents there. I think they never realize it was dinosaurs.

Also it's not like they mind contradictions, look at Rebirth, that's an incident that happened before Jurassic World 1, which is already a retcon since it's explicitly told that they have no incidents since they have complete control unlike the original Park was, and yet the Mutant Rex clearly ate a scientist before the Indominus Rex escaped and after they had already opened operations.

[neatoman]

There was a point I somehow never considered when watching the movie and I felt pretty stupid when someone else pointed it out.

Why do they need to collect samples if these things are genetically engineered from the start? Presumably all the data on them already exists if they were made in a lab.

[Andrew NDB]

Why do they need to collect samples if these things are genetically engineered from the start? Presumably all the data on them already exists if they were made in a lab.

Presumably because the lab they were made in got overrun by dinosaurs and got burned out like we saw in the beginning? And might not have viable samples anymore?

[neatoman]

Presumably because the lab they were made in got overrun by dinosaurs and got burned out like we saw in the beginning? And might not have viable samples anymore?

I guess? Still, there is the problem of keeping all eggs in the same basket... Or in this case all genome map copies in one lab.

[CyberCubed]

Just watched this, it's weird how the first half is so slow and there's hardly any dinosaurs, and it felt like half the movie was on a raft in the river getting chased by birds. This is a weird movie, it's completely forgettable but it's also not downright bad either, but also has no reason toe exist?

The Resident Evil mutant looking dinosaur at the end was pretty laughable/weird too, looked like a mutant monster creature from Resident Evil or Godzilla or something. And overall...seemed like nothing really happened. They got that brief case at the end?

I don't even know what to say about it, this movie was just a whole lot of nothing. Feels like bargain bin DLC for a videogame or something.

[neatoman]

And the movie likely made just enough money to justify yet another sequel... It was admittedly a big drop from the last one but it still made a profit. I went to see it because I was bored but I can't imagine who keeps watching these movies for actual enjoyment, isn't the consensus that the first one back in the 90's was the only actually good one and the rest have been sludge? Why do people keep coming back to these?