Issue 13 of TMNT: Saturday Morning Adventure to be a crossover

[TigerClaw]

The cover for issue 13 of TMNT: Saturday Morning Adventures reveals a crossover, It will feature the Mirage, 2003, 2012, Rise, and 87 TMNT together.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEo4qDrXwAAuL60?format=jpg&name=medium

[IndigoErth]

Yay, Turtles Forever 2 (I hope) in comic form.

[BornAgain]

That’s neat. I don’t know if I’ll read it but holy crap is IDW killing it with the license. Only thing we are missing now is Peter’s return in one way or another.

[Chaotix12345]

Guess this Ogglympics story arc's going to be WAY crazier than I expected! Looking forward to seeing how Erik Burnham captures the voices of the different iterations in a FW-based comic. Also happy that they chose Donnie to represent 2k3. He's probably my second-favorite from that show behind Leo.

[Drose18]

holy ****ing ****

[TheLabRat]

Hopefully they don't make FW Turtles incompetent again in crossover.

[MikeandRaph87]

Hopefully they don't make FW Turtles incompetent again in crossover.

This time TMNT (1987) is the home team. It is not uncommon for one considered the guest between crossovers to get portrayed lesser then the characters really are.I am hoping that the 1987 TMNT will not be overly goofy and perhaps the other versions Sligh amplified.


I suspect this is a result of the special sword cutting through reality.

[Drose18]

1987 Raph is definitely going to make a joke about how Turtles Forever wasn't canon since Rob Paulsen didn't voice him.

[Cowabung-Gal]

1987 Raph is definitely going to make a joke about how Turtles Forever wasn't canon since Rob Paulsen didn't voice him.

Oh, that was just wrong. They really did the FW TMNT dirty in that special

[Sumac]

The art is cool. I like how 2k3 Don and Mirage Leo look. Also shows how grotesque Rise version is.

[Drose18]

Oh, that was just wrong. They really did the FW TMNT dirty in that special

No original voice actor is not ideal but I am thankful for the Turtles Forever that we got. I really think they did about the best they could with their budget

[Sumac]

No original voice actor is not ideal but I am thankful for the Turtles Forever that we got. I really think they did about the best they could with their budget
87'TMNT could have been better written, though. It was not a problem with a budget.

[nidza_maj2000]

1987 Raph is definitely going to make a joke about how Turtles Forever wasn't canon since Rob Paulsen didn't voice him.
Maybe he will mention different voice actor but we will see in this issue will it be canon or not

[nidza_maj2000]

I hope April and Irma will interact with this other turtle teams, what do you guys think? They might be scared when they see Mirage Leo

[TheLabRat]

2003 Raph complain about how stupid FW Turtle is, but that's because he didn't meet 2012 Mikey.

[The Turtle Terminator]

It took a decade and a half of ownership, but it’s nice to see the 2003 series finally get SOME recognition from Nick.

[Sumac]

It took a decade and a half of ownership, but it’s nice to see the 2003 series finally get SOME recognition from Nick.
And then you never see them referenced again for the next 10 years.:lol:

[Andrew NDB]

It took a decade and a half of ownership, but it’s nice to see the 2003 series finally get SOME recognition from Nick.

This has absolutely 0 to do with Nick beyond them just not saying "no."

[Sumac]

This has absolutely 0 to do with Nick beyond them just not saying "no."
Sure, its not like their politics regarding TMNT were shaped around licking FW version or anything...

If you mean that no-one, like absolutely no-one, wanted to reference 2k3 throughout all the years Viacom / Nick owned franchise, outside of IDW, it might be the case, but I feel it is a bit unlikely. Of course, we can't say for sure, but it feels like Nick specifically ignored 2k3, since it was unlike FW version and thus didn't fit in their idea of TMNT should be.

Of course, with success of TLR, they might change their stance, if it was indeed the case. But it would be easier for them to exploit Mirage'verse, instead of its "watered down" version. Even 2k3 is much more than that, regardless of some naysayers..

[nidza_maj2000]

2003 Raph complain about how stupid FW Turtle is, but that's because he didn't meet 2012 Mikey.
How do you think he might react to 2012 Mikey if he met him in this issue?

[BornAgain]

This has absolutely 0 to do with Nick beyond them just not saying "no."

Pretty much everything TMNT related has something to do with Nick these days. Even in the comics they seem to want to get creatively involved barring TLR. It was even Nickelodeon who chose Dan Duncan as the initial artist for the IDW run.

IDW deserves the credit here but I’m just clarifying that Nick does have a say over who does what with this license. I think Nick needs to be included when we discuss most facets of the TMNT as long as they own the property because approval actually is a huge part of the process and we know they like to get creatively involved based on interviews with IDW and Kevin.

I was recently given the same response when I praised the IDW comics line as one of the positive aspects of Nick’s ownership over TMNT, but we really can’t severe their affiliation with the comics just because it’s a licensing deal. It’s all under their umbrella and they do get creatively involved.

[TheLabRat]

Although compared with Mirage, TLR is still much watered down. Except for the flashback scene where Raph massacred the foot soldiers, the rest is kinda meh and maybe even anticlimax. I would rather TLR focus more on Mikey's present timeline story and how he will kill his enemies for revenge.

[TigerClaw]

Regarding the Last Ronin, Nickelodeon was nice enough to allow a studio to work on a video game adaption, But not in any other form of media like a movie or TV series.

Nickelodeon caters to kids, And the Last Ronin is geared to a mature audience, Which isn't there demographic.

[TigerClaw]

The Old Turtle Den mentioned my tweet about the crossover.

E8xOUc2mNMM

[Sumac]

How do you think he might react to 2012 Mikey if he met him in this issue?
By vomiting.
Like any normal person who is not 3 year old.

[nidza_maj2000]

Do you guys think they will use that sword to bring this other turtles to TMNT 1987 universe? By the way TMNT Saturday Morning Adventures issue 11 might not be last time sword will cause trouble in this comic so who knows

[TigerClaw]

Do you guys think they will use that sword to bring this other turtles to TMNT 1987 universe? By the way TMNT Saturday Morning Adventures issue 11 might not be last time sword will cause trouble in this comic so who knows
Its possible that the sword can be used to bring characters from other universes.

[nidza_maj2000]

Its possible that the sword can be used to bring characters from other universes.
Yes, by the way I hope that issues 13 and 14 both will feature this other turtles and not only issue 13 but I will be fine either way, the fact that this is happening is pretty exciting guys

[BornAgain]

Although compared with Mirage, TLR is still much watered down. Except for the flashback scene where Raph massacred the foot soldiers, the rest is kinda meh and maybe even anticlimax. I would rather TLR focus more on Mikey's present timeline story and how he will kill his enemies for revenge.

While the quality of TLR is subjective - I think it’s great not perfect - the violence and maturity level has not been toned down from Mirage, if that’s what you mean. TLR is quite violent, especially The Lost Years.

Nick has definitely been shy about adult-aimed TMNT content but with The Last Ronin they let them off the leash. It seems they are still too shy for a movie adaptation right now but I think they will allow an animated version soon enough. It’s getting harder to deny the success. It’s still a top-selling book on Amazon and people are buying it at Target of all places.

[Chaotix12345]

Do you guys think they will use that sword to bring this other turtles to TMNT 1987 universe? By the way TMNT Saturday Morning Adventures issue 11 might not be last time sword will cause trouble in this comic so who knows

This issue is a part of an upcoming multi-part storyline called "Ogglympics" where Mister Ogg has the FW Turtles compete in various challenges so they can prevent themselves from being wiped from existence. I'm guessing this Turtles vs. Turtles thing is one of said events, and Ogg used his powers to pluck each member of the opposing team from their home realities.

[TigerClaw]

This issue is a part of an upcoming multi-part storyline called "Ogglympics" where Mister Ogg has the FW Turtles compete in various challenges so they can prevent themselves from being wiped from existence. I'm guessing this Turtles vs. Turtles thing is one of said events, and Ogg used his powers to pluck each member of the opposing team from their home realities.
This issue will lead to issue 14 where they face 2012's Tiger Claw.

[nidza_maj2000]

This issue will lead to issue 14 where they face 2012's Tiger Claw.

Yes and it might take place after his appearance at end of Trans-Dimensional Turtles episode

[nidza_maj2000]

This issue is a part of an upcoming multi-part storyline called "Ogglympics" where Mister Ogg has the FW Turtles compete in various challenges so they can prevent themselves from being wiped from existence. I'm guessing this Turtles vs. Turtles thing is one of said events, and Ogg used his powers to pluck each member of the opposing team from their home realities.
So do you think he might send them back at end of issue 13? Would be good if they also appear in issue 14 though but we have to wait and see what will happen

[nidza_maj2000]

Guess this Ogglympics story arc's going to be WAY crazier than I expected! Looking forward to seeing how Erik Burnham captures the voices of the different iterations in a FW-based comic. Also happy that they chose Donnie to represent 2k3. He's probably my second-favorite from that show behind Leo.
So I think it will be same versions from Mirage comics, 2003, 2012 and Rise cartoons, also this is same characters as in 1987 series that appear in this comic book series

[Chaotix12345]

Jennika is also along for the ride. (https://www.ign.com/articles/tmnt-saturday-morning-adventures-turtle-verse-crossover)

[TigerClaw]

Jennika is also along for the ride. (https://www.ign.com/articles/tmnt-saturday-morning-adventures-turtle-verse-crossover)
Cool, The IDW TMNT are also part of the crossover

[Zog The Magnificent]

Jennika is also along for the ride. (https://www.ign.com/articles/tmnt-saturday-morning-adventures-turtle-verse-crossover)

Dammit, I can't even escape that black hole of a character in the 87 comic!

[nidza_maj2000]

This will be really interesting, wondering how other Turtles will react to female turtle, what do you guys think?

[TigerClaw]

This will be really interesting, wondering how other Turtles will react to female turtle, what do you guys think?
There hasn't been a female turtle in TMNT 87 universe, The closest being Mona Lisa who is a salamander.

[nidza_maj2000]

There hasn't been a female turtle in TMNT 87 universe, The closest being Mona Lisa who is a salamander.

Yes, but other turtle teams who will be in this crossover also doesn't have a female turtle so it will also be surprising for them

[TigerClaw]

Yes, but other turtle teams who will be in this crossover also doesn't have a female turtle so it will also be surprising for them
Maybe Venus from The Next Mutation shows up.

[nidza_maj2000]

Maybe Venus from The Next Mutation shows up.

Just curious: what made you think so? Because that version is not well received, I wouldn't mind seeing it though

[TigerClaw]

Just curious: what made you think so? Because that version is not well received, I wouldn't mind seeing it though
Anything is possible with this crossover, With the reveal that Jennika will be in it, Who knows who else will show up.

[nidza_maj2000]

Anything is possible with this crossover, With the reveal that Jennika will be in it, Who knows who else will show up.

Yes, you are right, they might save something as a surprise that will not be revailed until this issues release

[TigerClaw]

What we know so far is we got characters from each of the universes appearing in the issues, I know Tiger Claw from the 2012 universe will appear in issue 14, And that's a given, As to what characters and what universe they are from that will appear? There are other TMNT universes that they can pluck a character from, They can get somebody from the 90s movies, The 2007 movie, The Archie comics, The Image comics, You name it.

[nidza_maj2000]

What we know so far is we got characters from each of the universes appearing in the issues, I know Tiger Claw from the 2012 universe will appear in issue 14, And that's a given, As to what characters and what universe they are from that will appear? There are other TMNT universes that they can pluck a character from, They can get somebody from the 90s movies, The 2007 movie, The Archie comics, The Image comics, You name it.

Yes, maybe other turtle characters from multiverse will also appear and maybe villains from other universes also

[Cowabung-Gal]

Jennika is also along for the ride. (https://www.ign.com/articles/tmnt-saturday-morning-adventures-turtle-verse-crossover)

https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m08x3e3wXi1rqfhi2o1_400.gif

Are you kidding me?

*sigh*

Get a clue, IDW. :roll:

[hypered1]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m08x3e3wXi1rqfhi2o1_400.gif

Are you kidding me?

*sigh*

Get a clue, IDW. :roll:.
Jennika is actually very popular in the fandom and it's sad that you're so bitter about it.

[nidza_maj2000]

Do you guys think final arc of current run of TMNT IDW comics will somehow tie to this issues of TMNT Saturday Morning Adventures comic? I mean because Jennika will appear, also last issue of IDW run before relaunch will be released in April before this crossover will start so maybe that last issue will have some connection to this, what do you guys think?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Jennika is actually very popular in the fandom and it's sad that you're so bitter about it.

Right, like how Captain Marvel is extremely popular in the Marvel fandom. Everybody loves her, and the only ones who don’t are the sexist male fans.

It’s ok if you like Jennika, but she’s not as popular as you think. In fact, if she were to have a figure of her own, most of them would end up in the clearance sale with the other rejected merchandise. The Jennika comics certainly aren’t selling that well. At least they aren’t at my local comic store.

[Jeff]

Right, like how Captain Marvel is extremely popular in the Marvel fandom. Everybody loves her, and the only ones who don’t are the sexist male fans.

Captain Marvel is a very popular character in comic fandom and the first movie made $1.2B.

It’s ok if you like Jennika, but she’s not as popular as you think. In fact, if she were to have a figure of her own, most of them would end up in the clearance sale with the other rejected merchandise. The Jennika comics certainly aren’t selling that well. At least they aren’t at my local comic store.

If they release a figure, I think it would sell very well among fans and collectors. Now imagine if they put Jennika in other media not targeted towards the already enfranchised consumer, like, oh I don't know, a comic book targeted at children and their parents who grew up with the 80's cartoon? Now put her in other media and see her popularity grow. You just hate to hate because it's edgy and your 3 friends on this forum show you support.

[hypered1]

Jennika already has two figures coming out later this year and there's also collected tpb of Jennika issues coming out in June that will have issues #93-95, 2019 FCBD and both of the Jennika miniseries:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91CLYBo5BQL._SL1500_.jpg

Additionally I've seen nothing but positivity for the character across most social media platforms.

[nidza_maj2000]

What do you guys think this twist it that Sarah mentioned in interview? Just curious what do you think about it?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Captain Marvel is a very popular character in comic fandom and the first movie made $1.2B.

Popular among whom? The third wave feminists who don’t even buy the comics and do nothing but criticize the real fans on Twitter/X for not accepting the new Thing? In case you’ve haven’t noticed, Marvel as a whole isn’t doing so good right now.

The only reason the first Captain Marvel did so good at the box office was because people were really excited for Endgame and wanted to see how that movie would tie in with the epic conclusion to the MCU. Now if it was released after Endgame, it wouldn’t even make past $300,000,000. The comic fans already hated Captain Marvel before the movie was released. If they didn’t, then the new Captain Marvel movie would be making a ton of money right now years after Endgame, but it performed rather pathetically at the box office. Even casual and indifferent normies who aren’t real Marvel fans don’t want to watch any more post-Endgame movies. That hype is long gone.


If they release a figure, I think it would sell very well among fans and collectors. Now imagine if they put Jennika in other media not targeted towards the already enfranchised consumer, like, oh I don't know, a comic book targeted at children and their parents who grew up with the 80's cartoon? Now put her in other media and see her popularity grow. You just hate to hate because it's edgy and your 3 friends on this forum show you support.

Just what is it exactly about Jennika that makes her so appealing and awesome? Other than the fact that she checks at least two representation boxes and that she has Wolverine claws? “Her character is just so interesting”? How so? Because I don’t see it. “She is just so well-written”? Compared to the original four turtles? I don’t think so.

It’s not just a few people on this forum who aren’t fond of Jennika. If you go on Reddit or read YouTube comments, the general attitude toward Jennika is basically: “Meh.” And the pathetic comic sales are also pretty telling.

A ninja turtle version of Rey wouldn’t sell very much and you know it.

[Jeff]

Popular among whom? The third wave feminists who don’t even buy the comics and do nothing but criticize the real fans on Twitter/X for not accepting the new Thing? In case you’ve haven’t noticed, Marvel as a whole isn’t doing so good right now.

The only reason the first Captain Marvel did so good at the box office was because people were really excited for Endgame and wanted to see how that movie would tie in with the epic conclusion to the MCU. Now if it was released after Endgame, it wouldn’t even make past $300,000,000. The comic fans already hated Captain Marvel before the movie was released. If they didn’t, then the new Captain Marvel movie would be making a ton of money right now years after Endgame, but it performed rather pathetically at the box office. Even casual and indifferent normies who aren’t real Marvel fans don’t want to watch any more post-Endgame movies. That hype is long gone.

If this, if that. Yes, Captain Marvel was part of the hype train in the first couple phases of MCU, but that doesn't negate the popularity of the character. I've seen just as many cosplays of her character pre MCU as I have any other popular comic book character. She is not widely hated by people outside of your echo chamber.

And yes, The Marvels didn't do well. I liked the first, and didn't care for the second, as well. Much like the first being part of a hype train, this one has succumb to the lackluster MCU films recently, but the hype isn't totally gone. Deadpool 3 trailer has 28M views in a week and the FF announcement has a lot of positive hype around it.


Just what is it exactly about Jennika that makes her so appealing and awesome? Other than the fact that she checks at least two representation boxes and that she has Wolverine claws? “Her character is just so interesting”? How so? Because I don’t see it. “She is just so well-written”? Compared to the original four turtles? I don’t think so.

It’s not just a few people on this forum who dislike Jennika. If you go on Reddit or read YouTube comments, the general attitude toward Jennika is basically: “Meh.” And the pathetic comic sales are also pretty telling.

A ninja turtle version of Rey wouldn’t sell very much and you know it.

What makes any of the Turtles appealing at that point in their lifespan? Before they were in a cartoon and toys, they were just as popular as Jennika is to their fanbase now. She's a well-rounded, yet flawed character in the character herself as well as the writing - which is par for this franchise. And if you go on Reddit or YouTube most of the comments from people who know who she is are "Cool! She's in the crossover!" or from the less enfranchised "Whoa! Who's the yellow turtle?!". Not everyone hates things just because theyre new and different - that's what makes things exciting.

[nidza_maj2000]

If this, if that. Yes, Captain Marvel was part of the hype train in the first couple phases of MCU, but that doesn't negate the popularity of the character. I've seen just as many cosplays of her character pre MCU as I have any other popular comic book character. She is not widely hated by people outside of your echo chamber.

And yes, The Marvels didn't do well. I liked the first, and didn't care for the second, as well. Much like the first being part of a hype train, this one has succumb to the lackluster MCU films recently, but the hype isn't totally gone. Deadpool 3 trailer has 28M views in a week and the FF announcement has a lot of positive hype around it.




What makes any of the Turtles appealing at that point in their lifespan? Before they were in a cartoon and toys, they were just as popular as Jennika is to their fanbase now. She's a well-rounded, yet flawed character in the character herself as well as the writing - which is par for this franchise. And if you go on Reddit or YouTube most of the comments from people who know who she is are "Cool! She's in the crossover!" or from the less enfranchised "Whoa! Who's the yellow turtle?!". Not everyone hates things just because theyre new and different - that's what makes things exciting.
You are right about this

[nidza_maj2000]

What we know so far is we got characters from each of the universes appearing in the issues, I know Tiger Claw from the 2012 universe will appear in issue 14, And that's a given, As to what characters and what universe they are from that will appear? There are other TMNT universes that they can pluck a character from, They can get somebody from the 90s movies, The 2007 movie, The Archie comics, The Image comics, You name it.

Would you like to see them fighting against Shredder from Michael Bay produced movies? Just curious what do you think about it? Or if he is not in this crossover (I think he might be but this is speculation for now) than they should bring Turtles from this movies and him next time they do crossover between TMNT 1987 and other characters from TMNT multiverse in this comic

[Cowabung-Gal]

I've seen just as many cosplays of her character pre MCU as I have any other popular comic book character.

So? I’ve seen more people in furry costumes than I’ve seen people dress up as Captain Marvel at those conventions. People also try to sell feminist and social justice stuff at their booths.

Deadpool 3 trailer has 28M views in a week and the FF announcement has a lot of positive hype around it

Sure, nostalgia makes a lot of people excited, for a while at least. But more than likely it’s another case of bait and switch. There’s a rumor that Lady Deadpool is set to make her appearance in that movie, and with Disney buying the rights to Deadpool, how much you wanna bet that they’ll retire his character so that hers would take his place, like they’ve done with the other characters?

What makes any of the Turtles appealing at that point in their lifespan? Before they were in a cartoon and toys, they were just as popular as Jennika is to their fanbase now. She's a well-rounded, yet flawed character in the character herself as well as the writing - which is par for this franchise.

Well-rounded? More like flat-chested. :lol:
Not saying that having big boobs automatically makes a female character great because Venus proved otherwise. But Jennika is your typical flat “strong female” type that leaves a bad taste in your mouth. She’s nothing compared to the older versions of the original four.

And if you go on Reddit or YouTube most of the comments from people who know who she is are "Cool! She's in the crossover!" or from the less enfranchised "Whoa! Who's the yellow turtle?!". Not everyone hates things just because theyre new and different - that's what makes things exciting.

Most of the comments aren’t saying that. The general attitude toward her is that she’s an unnecessary addition just like Venus or that she’s just another self-insert character that’s meant to stroke the writer’s own ego instead of entertaining other people. A few people do like her, yes, but overall, she’s a forgettable character and the people at IDW know it, but they’re sneaking her into these crossovers in a desperate effort to make it look like she’s actually a very popular and well-loved character. But did her appearance save the Street Fighter crossover? No.

No, not everyone hates things just because they’re new. I mean, some people think that duct-taping a banana to the wall is considered to be “modern” art and they love it so much that they’re willing to pay $120,000 for it. That’s new and different, isn’t it? Am I a hater for saying that it’s not worth that much or that it’s ridiculous get that excited over a rotting banana?

[Jeff]

So? I’ve seen more people in furry costumes than I’ve seen people dress up as Captain Marvel at those conventions. People also try to sell feminist and social justice stuff at their booths.



Sure, nostalgia makes a lot of people excited, for a while at least. But more than likely it’s another case of bait and switch. There’s a rumor that Lady Deadpool is set to make her appearance in that movie, and with Disney buying the rights to Deadpool, how much you wanna bet that they’ll retire his character so that hers would take his place, like they’ve done with the other characters?



Well-rounded? More like flat-chested. :lol:
Not saying that having big boobs automatically makes a female character great because Venus proved otherwise. But Jennika is your typical flat “strong female” type that leaves a bad taste in your mouth. She’s nothing compared to the older versions of the original four.



Most of the comments aren’t saying that. The general attitude toward her is that she’s an unnecessary addition just like Venus or that she’s just another self-insert character that’s meant to stroke the writer’s own ego instead of entertaining other people. A few people do like her, yes, but overall, she’s a forgettable character and the people at IDW know it, but they’re sneaking her into these crossovers in a desperate effort to make it look like she’s actually a very popular and well-loved character. But did her appearance save the Street Fighter crossover? No.

No, not everyone hates things just because they’re new. I mean, some people think that duct-taping a banana to the wall is considered to be “modern” art and they love it so much that they’re willing to pay $120,000 for it. That’s new and different, isn’t it? Am I a hater for saying that it’s not worth that much or that it’s ridiculous get that excited over a rotting banana?

Jesus Christ you are the most one-note person I've ever talked to. What's it like to be filled with that much self-hatred?

[Cowabung-Gal]

Jesus Christ you are the most one-note person I've ever talked to. What's it like to be filled with that much self-hatred?

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not a total sponge that soaks up everything including horse pee. If my stubbornness and different opinions exasperate you so much, then just don’t engage in a conversation with me, simple as that.

[Zog The Magnificent]

Jesus Christ you are the most one-note person I've ever talked to. What's it like to be filled with that much self-hatred?

It's funny that when you can't actually refute the argument, you just say the person sucks, then take on this pitying condescention, then act like you've won the argument. A strategy I've seen used many times when someone doesn't actually have a substantive argument. Ad hominem, literally one of the oldest tricks in the book.

Jennika is and always has been a garbage character, who was flat, underwritten, and shilled to no end. She's left no impression beyond how much she sucks, and she'll be forgotten once IDW is over. The only people who like her do so because of the "representation." There is quite literally nothing commendable about the character, from her backstory, all the way down to her design. It's annoying that they keep putting her in other things, and it absolutely reeks of desparation. If she was really popular, they wouldn't have to shill so hard. The demand would just be there.

[TheLabRat]

They also butchered Casey Jones's character many times because of Jennika. He dumped April because Jennika is his new girlfriend. While I finally grudgingly accepted that Casey x Jennika hype, and even in the City at War arc, Casey was able to accept her mutation. Then, after #100, he dumped her off-screen for no reason?! All this is happened because Campbell wanted to give Jennika a pig girlfriend. Yes, this basically "Star vs The Forces of Evil Season 4" levels of writing.

[nidza_maj2000]

So I think we will get plot for this issue in coming days, maybe on Friday it will be posted on site of rich that collects TMNT comics, I mean this site: https://tmnt-ninjaturtles.com/

[Jeff]

It's funny that when you can't actually refute the argument, you just say the person sucks, then take on this pitying condescention, then act like you've won the argument. A strategy I've seen used many times when someone doesn't actually have a substantive argument. Ad hominem, literally one of the oldest tricks in the book.

Jennika is and always has been a garbage character, who was flat, underwritten, and shilled to no end. She's left no impression beyond how much she sucks, and she'll be forgotten once IDW is over. The only people who like her do so because of the "representation." There is quite literally nothing commendable about the character, from her backstory, all the way down to her design. It's annoying that they keep putting her in other things, and it absolutely reeks of desparation. If she was really popular, they wouldn't have to shill so hard. The demand would just be there.

I'd like to think I won the argument because I was arguing points I believe, just like the same is true from the other end. I was condescending because it's true - she only has one anti-feminism point for every single negative thing I've seen her talk about. My argument does have substance, whether you agree or disagree.

Oh that's right, me, a straight cis male, only likes a character that is nearly identical to the four other titular characters, because they are a queer female. Jennika isn't written perfectly, and no Turtle ever has been; with the range of creators over four decades that would be near impossible. Does that negate the fact that their are cool things about a ****ing bad-ass ninja turtle?

[TheLabRat]

Core fifth or sixth is always worst change. Even making them villains has more potential than this.

[nidza_maj2000]

Here is what Erik said more about this crossover: https://aiptcomics.com/2024/03/14/erik-burnham-on-turtles-at-40/ but I wonder what he means when he said "ostensibly from another dimensions" by the way I just hope they are Turtles from another dimensions and not Mister Ogg illusions

[oldmanwinters]

Here is what Erik said more about this crossover: https://aiptcomics.com/2024/03/14/erik-burnham-on-turtles-at-40/ but I wonder what he means when he said "ostensibly from another dimensions" by the way I just hope they are Turtles from another dimensions and not Mister Ogg illusions

I don’t think I’ve ever used the word “ostensibly” in a sentence.

[nidza_maj2000]

I don’t think I’ve ever used the word “ostensibly” in a sentence.
What do you mean by this? Just curious

[TigerClaw]

According to Google's dictionary of ostensibly.

adverb
apparently or purportedly, but perhaps not actually.
"portrayed as a blue-collar type, ostensibly a carpenter"

[nidza_maj2000]

According to Google's dictionary of ostensibly.

adverb
apparently or purportedly, but perhaps not actually.
"portrayed as a blue-collar type, ostensibly a carpenter"
By the way I type it on Google before you told me and that is why I wrote this about Turtles being really from other universes and I am sure that will be the case

[nidza_maj2000]

First page:

https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Publication211/v4/14/c4/c3/14c4c331-844a-d55f-29d8-ccfa440a1638/image-005.jpg/900x0w.webp
Hello, this looks good but this looks like it is first page of issue 12 not issue 13, by the way just curious: where did you find this?

[nidza_maj2000]

I really hope we will get at least page 1 for this issue tomorrow on Apple Books Preview website

[nidza_maj2000]

And we did: books.apple.com/lu/book/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-saturday-morning-adventures/id6501971614 but we haven't seen what 1987 Turtles reaction to other Turtles is like, I guess we will see that on May 18 before it is released on May 22, this first page is good

[AlZarkovski]

Preview:

https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/1https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/2https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/3https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/4https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/5https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/6https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/7

[Coola Yagami]

So..... where did Rise Raph end up?

Also interesting to isolate them into different areas. The only problem is splitting the story into 4 parts is gonna have them wrap things up super quick. I mean they already wasted a third of the book just introducing the characters and explaining the overall concept.

[TheLabRat]

Preview:

https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/1https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/2https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/3https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/4https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/5https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/6https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/7

This gonna be interesting.

[nidza_maj2000]

Preview:

https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/1https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/2https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/3https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/4https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/5https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/6https://previewsworld.com/SiteImage/PrevuePage/STL314050/7
This looks like it will be really good guys, also Michelangelo from TMNT 2012 doesn't know who Ace Duck is

[nidza_maj2000]

So..... where did Rise Raph end up?

Also interesting to isolate them into different areas. The only problem is splitting the story into 4 parts is gonna have them wrap things up super quick. I mean they already wasted a third of the book just introducing the characters and explaining the overall concept.
This is 3 part story, also it looks like you predicted well when you said one of them will point out they are outnumbered and that is 1987 Raphael and I think this will be good issue, it looks like that it will be good

[Coola Yagami]

This is 3 part story, also it looks like you predicted well when you said one of them will point out they are outnumbered and that is 1987 Raphael and I think this will be good issue, it looks like that it will be good

Yeah but this is part 2 already, and it seems part 3 will focus more on the enemies than the crossover turtles. I mean I guess it's better we got something than nothing, but I would have liked to have seen more.

[nidza_maj2000]

Yeah but this is part 2 already, and it seems part 3 will focus more on the enemies than the crossover turtles. I mean I guess it's better we got something than nothing, but I would have liked to have seen more.
Yes, you are right, maybe in future we will get 3 part story where all 3 parts will be crossover with some other Turtles from multiverse, that would be good

[nidza_maj2000]

What is your opinion about what 1987 Raphael said to Mirage Leonardo? What do you guys think?

[AlZarkovski]

New page (from here (https://comicbook.com/comics/news/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-saturday-morning-adventures-turtle-verse-crossover/)):

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/2024/05/15/6145dd34-2889-4a50-af4d-2d3c1984381e/tmnt-sma-cont-13-lo-images-11.jpg

[oldmanwinters]

I like the humor of Mirage Leo making fun of OT Raph's unorthodox technique.

Although, there was at least one episode where he held them more traditionally:
https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1641020
https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1867600

[nidza_maj2000]

New page (from here (https://comicbook.com/comics/news/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-saturday-morning-adventures-turtle-verse-crossover/)):

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/2024/05/15/6145dd34-2889-4a50-af4d-2d3c1984381e/tmnt-sma-cont-13-lo-images-11.jpg

This looks really good, it looks like Mirage Leo makes fun of 1987 Raphael

[nidza_maj2000]

Hello, also it will be good to see 1987 Leonardo fighting Jennika because she is female turtle with good ninja skills and I know they know Mona Lisa who is also female turtle that was human before her mutation but I think Jennika has better skills

[nidza_maj2000]

Hello, so I finished reading this comic and if you do click on this:
this other Turtles are impersonated by Creepy Eddie

[Chaotix12345]

Not a twist I was expecting, but it makes sense. If it actually WAS those Turtles, they would've all just teamed up against Ogg.

[nidza_maj2000]

Not a twist I was expecting, but it makes sense. If it actually WAS those Turtles, they would've all just teamed up against Ogg.
It looks like this villains that will appear in next issue will be real because Mister Ogg said: "they are really here" something like that and Lord Dregg will also appear in this comic, he is enemy from future because Erik Burnham (who writes this comic) said comic takes place between seasons 7 and 8 and Tiger Claw from TMNT 2012 will also be there so he might be real character from other TMNT universe

[nidza_maj2000]

Also it is good how they draw Mister Ogg showing TMNT: Saturday Morning Adventures issue 1 and this arc really breaks fourth wall, by the way before issue 14 we have Usagi Yojimbo special that is coming on June 12, it will be good special I think it will be

[lonewarrior20]

Who the heck is the female rat ninja on the last page?

[nidza_maj2000]

And we will finally get to see more of Triceraton villain in TMNT 1987 universe, they only appeared in Night of the Dark Turtle but in issue 14 it looks like at least one of them will have more role

[nidza_maj2000]

Who the heck is the female rat ninja on the last page?
That is what I am also wondering, if I had to guess I would say is that she is villain from future like that bird villain that appeared in April special and will appear again in issue 14

[AlZarkovski]

Who the heck is the female rat ninja on the last page?

it's Rat Queen, new character and member of Pantheon from issues 15 and 16.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOM3edpXcAAvtJe?format=jpg&name=medium

[nidza_maj2000]

it's Rat Queen, new character and member of Pantheon from issues 15 and 16.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOM3edpXcAAvtJe?format=jpg&name=medium
Why would she be a villain than? By the way who do you think that red dragon is?

[neatoman]

it's Rat Queen, new character and member of Pantheon from issues 15 and 16.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOM3edpXcAAvtJe?format=jpg&name=medium

Oh, that's... A lot to unload on us without explanation, I can't even find a preview explaining that particular thing, especially not the further question that image raises.


Were any of these characters shown in the FW world before?
Is that Hob of all characters?
Why does the Pantheon need two cats?
I get replacing the Rat King, considering he's obviously not a god in FW, but what's with her looking like Splinter and Ninjara had a baby?
Is that Drako from the 2003 show?
I know there was an owl in the Mirage iteration but nobody else seems to match.
Pretty sure that is Gothano and Manmoth, so why not just copy the IDW line-up?

[shredder orokusaki]

And now i will kill all the turtles. They cant fight me Krang rocksteady bevop and all their enemies at the same time!

[nidza_maj2000]

Oh, that's... A lot to unload on us without explanation, I can't even find a preview explaining that particular thing, especially not the further question that image raises.


Were any of these characters shown in the FW world before?
Is that Hob of all characters?
Why does the Pantheon need two cats?
I get replacing the Rat King, considering he's obviously not a god in FW, but what's with her looking like Splinter and Ninjara had a baby?
Is that Drako from the 2003 show?
I know there was an owl in the Mirage iteration but nobody else seems to match.
Pretty sure that is Gothano and Manmoth, so why not just copy the IDW line-up?


I can answer 1 and 5 of this questions I think, here:
1 They didn't
5 It might be TMNT 1987 universe version of Drako

[shredder orokusaki]

It looks like this villains that will appear in next issue will be real because Mister Ogg said: "they are really here" something like that and Lord Dregg will also appear in this comic, he is enemy from future because Erik Burnham (who writes this comic) said comic takes place between seasons 7 and 8 and Tiger Claw from TMNT 2012 will also be there so he might be real character from other TMNT universe

if you remeber when i sent tigerclaw to kill the turtles for the first time a MONSTER that the Utroms/Kraang created ate him and brought him to the 1987 dimensions. Then months later he finaly returned to me but he had only one and he was wounded. This is why he was in the 1987 dimension for some time.

[Chaotix12345]

I THOUGHT the silhouette on the previous cover looked like Hob, but him not being a part of the IDW Pantheon made me doubt it. Though, I guess that kinda thing doesn't matter in a multiverse. Neat to see Scratch get used in an actual story.

[nidza_maj2000]

I THOUGHT the silhouette on the previous cover looked like Hob, but him not being a part of the IDW Pantheon made me doubt it. Though, I guess that kinda thing doesn't matter in a multiverse. Neat to see Scratch get used in an actual story.
Who do you think dragon is?

[neatoman]

Who do you think dragon is?

0RpctNzcVBE

[Drose18]

Could that be 1987 Verminator X, and not Old Hob?

[neatoman]

Could that be 1987 Verminator X, and not Old Hob?

Doubt it, no cybernetics.

[Coola Yagami]

Couldn't help but read it right away. The review is coming soon.

Kinda disappointed by the reveal and it ended way too quickly but I figured it would.

I notice that 80s wackiness aside, 80s Don and 2K3 Don are pretty much the same. The main difference is the 2K3 one always seemed a lot calmer and soft spoken, but I felt Turtles Forever made 80s Don act sillier just so there would be more pronounced differences between the two.

[nidza_maj2000]

0RpctNzcVBE
According to one user on another forum it is Drako, they said Erik Burnham confirmed that it is him

[nidza_maj2000]

Couldn't help but read it right away. The review is coming soon.

Kinda disappointed by the reveal and it ended way too quickly but I figured it would.

I notice that 80s wackiness aside, 80s Don and 2K3 Don are pretty much the same. The main difference is the 2K3 one always seemed a lot calmer and soft spoken, but I felt Turtles Forever made 80s Don act sillier just so there would be more pronounced differences between the two.
I am also little dissapointed but it looks like this villains will be real and Tiger Claw from TMNT 2012 universe will appear in issue 14 so we are kind of getting a crossover between this different universes

[nidza_maj2000]

So I read IDW August 2024 solicitation for TMNT: Saturday Morning Adventures Continued issue 16 and that explains why Rat Queen is here

[neatoman]

According to one user on another forum it is Drako, they said Erik Burnham confirmed that it is him

Which forum is that?

[nidza_maj2000]

Which forum is that?
It is on turtlepower.ru

[nidza_maj2000]

Here is link for post where they said Erik confirmed it: https://www.turtlepower.ru/showthread.php?p=393031

[neatoman]

It is on turtlepower.ru

Here is link for post where they said Erik confirmed it: https://www.turtlepower.ru/showthread.php?p=393031

I'm not really seeing any confirmation there, just another guy saying Burnham confirmed it.

[nidza_maj2000]

I'm not really seeing any confirmation there, just another guy saying Burnham confirmed it.
That is what I said

[neatoman]

That is what I said

I really wish that person would just give a reason we should trust him.

[nidza_maj2000]

I am the person who revealed it, the reason I know is because recently I interviewed him and revealed it was him. That part was taken out as Erik didn't want it to be in the video.

It is really good we are getting Drako in TMNT 1987 universe

[nidza_maj2000]

Could Creepy Eddie impersonate other characters in TMNT 1987 Nightmare in the Lair episode? I ask because it's been a while since I watched that episode, if not than it is interesting that in this comic they give him this ability, also I have feeling this won't be last time we see him because of what happened in this issue, he might return in another Halloween special or regular issue that will take place on Halloween, if they do it will be issue 18 because in October issue 18 is coming out

[neatoman]

So this is the first instance of a 4Kids character being used in a FW thing, right?

[Coola Yagami]

Here's my review of the issue.

https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/2024/05/tmnt-saturday-morning-adventures.html

[nidza_maj2000]

So this is the first instance of a 4Kids character being used in a FW thing, right?

Yes but this is not real Donatello from TMNT 2003 cartoon

[Coola Yagami]

Wowza, Erik himself commented on the blog. What an honor. :o:o:o:o

[neatoman]

Yes but this is not real Donatello from TMNT 2003 cartoon

I was talking about Drako though, as in he's a character created specifically for that show.

[nidza_maj2000]

I was talking about Drako though, as in he's a character created specifically for that show.
Than it is, I am glad we are getting characters from other versions of franchise in this universe it is really good

[TMNachoT]

For fans of the 2K3 show like me, does it worth reading this issue? is it a self contained story or can we see 2K3 don in another issue? Thanks!

[nidza_maj2000]

For fans of the 2K3 show like me, does it worth reading this issue? is it a self contained story or can we see 2K3 don in another issue? Thanks!
It is more or less stand alone story and part 3 sets up next arc which will have Pantheon in TMNT 1987 continuity, so if you are fan of 2003 show I say give it a shot but don't expect too much there is twist about this Turtles from other universes

[nidza_maj2000]

Now it is almost a year since cover of this issue was released, it was exciting in January when we thought Turtles from other universes will crossover with 1987 Turtles in this issue, that didn't really happen because it was Creepy Eddie impersonating them, it is still kind of a crossover but this are not real Turtles from other universes

[nidza_maj2000]

Now in November we will really get Turtles from different universes interacting in TMNT Battle Nexus comic in main story (probably) and in side stories where Mister Ogg will summon Turtles from cartoons, movies and comics to fight each other