View Full Version : (Trans?)Shooter at Houston Megachurch
oldmanwinters
02-13-2024, 01:45 PM
This past Sunday afternoon, a woman reportedly fired shots on the Houston campus of Lakewood Church (pop-evangelical worship center pastored by Joel Osteen). The shooter came accompanied by a 5-year-old child and with a long rifle and bomb strapped to her person. The service was a Spanish-language service, and two off-duty police officers killed the shooter. The child was injured during the incident, as was a man in his 50s.
The shooter was initially identified by police as 36-year-old Hispanic woman Genesse Ivonne Moreno.
https://apnews.com/article/church-shooting-joel-osteen-texas-ea557401f2eef247020e34297159536a
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2024/02/12/what-we-know-about-the-lakewood-church-shooter/?sh=271035284088
I was shocked at how little press the story got and how quickly the media seems to have dropped it from their interests. Turns out the shooter had a trans-sexual history, and at some point went by the alias of Jeffrey Escalante. The shooter had a history of mental illness and recent prior arrests. During the church shooting, the shooter was reportedly brandishing some "Free Palestine" paraphernalia.
Sunday's "developing story" Tweet:
https://i.imgur.com/Iz2WkD5l.jpg
Haven't heard anything about the other man who was supposedly running around in public with a rifle, or if that was even related to this story.
Andrew NDB
02-13-2024, 02:08 PM
I was going to post about this yesterday. I looked around and literally the only site mentioning she was trans was Fox News.
oldmanwinters
02-13-2024, 02:45 PM
Story from Babylon Bee's "non-satire" service:
https://notthebee.com/article/report-police-identify-lakewood-shooter-as-35-year-old-female-genesse-moreno-who-also-goes-by-jeremy
A police report from last year for a prior took some interesting liberties with the suspect's race/ethnicity, but I've seen enough police reports to know they aren't exactly peer reviewed scholarship either:
https://twitter.com/deepkick9/status/1757166352920449358
I was shocked at how little press the story got and how quickly the media seems to have dropped it from their interests
I'm just curious as to why you were "shocked" by this.
Much of the media is still hooked on liberal agenda. Hell - CNN can't start a sentence about the right without running with their branding like "MAGA Republicans" or "MAGA Protestors" in an attempt to brand the term like terrorism to their sheep viewership.
So honestly, why is the lack of coverage "shocking" instead of maybe "Once again an actual story with actual outcomes from crazy people on the left is ignored by the media"....
It's an honest question and a fair one, I think.
Cowabung-Gal
02-13-2024, 04:17 PM
I looked around and literally the only site mentioning she was trans was Fox News.
“Hey, another trans person is shooting at people.”
Fox:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/d3/4f/bed34fd34e5aa2b1416420069f6c8725.gif
CNN & MSNBC:
https://media1.tenor.com/m/pXe-GokoyA0AAAAC/the-s-impsons-bush.gif
IndigoErth
02-13-2024, 05:19 PM
I don't care if you want to take your genitals off, stitch them for your forehead, and identify as the queen or king, or even the kieen/quing, of Omicron Persei 8... you don't put a freaking CHILD through some shooting spree. Why the hell did they not leave the kid with someone before this?
Edit: You know what... kid was probably an intended human shield. Guess it didn't work.
Andrew NDB
02-13-2024, 05:39 PM
And where was the real mom?
oldmanwinters
02-13-2024, 06:22 PM
I'm just curious as to why you were "shocked" by this.
Sure, once I saw there was a trans/internationalist/racial twist, I figured the mainstream media would prefer to abandon it, but the high-profile nature of the church and bringing a kid hostage into a terrorist attack seemed like it would make it impossible to do that.
And where was the real mom?
Seems like a really messy backstory, according to a local news outlet:
https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/lakewood-church-shooter-background/285-2dfdc6ba-2a02-42f1-b578-e413d3b763e3
Maybe the alias was just a fake name and the shooter was biologically born female and identified as such the whole time?
Sure, once I saw there was a trans/internationalist/racial twist, I figured the mainstream media would prefer to abandon it, but the high-profile nature of the church and bringing a kid hostage into a terrorist attack seemed like it would make it impossible to do that
Right, like.... there's a little something for everybody here!
You've got your right wing "SEE?! These people ARE nuts and we keep telling you!" as well as your left wing "SEE! These right wing churches hate people and now they are reaping what they sew!"
But I think Cowabunga-Gal's meme above said it best to be honest...
robertfiduciary
02-13-2024, 09:48 PM
Just wanted to point out that Fox News has been the #1 cable news network for the last eight years.
You're watching "mainstream media." You're reading "mainstream media."
You're consuming the most mainstream of mainstream media.
They're not the "alternative." They're the standard.
And IMO Joel Osteen is a giant grifting POS, but he is an amazing showman. A greasy one, but still. Captivating to watch.
Sure, once I saw there was a trans/internationalist/racial twist, I figured the mainstream media would prefer to abandon it.
TurtleManiac
02-13-2024, 10:13 PM
Yeah heard about this few days ago. Already knew it would get zero media attention. Why would the mainstream media wanna break their own narrative of “the transgender community is under attack”? In reality it is Christianity that has been under attack by leftwing. Shooter was probably radicalized by mainstream media narrative. That’s why this story is buried and you only hear about it on platforms like X/Twitter. Mainstream news outlets worship satan, they probably more concerned about the shooter being “dead-named” or whatever, while (D) politicians too busy putting baphomet statues in state capitols.
Andrew NDB
02-13-2024, 10:26 PM
The more I read about this the more confusing it is. Are we SURE this is a transgender?
TurtleManiac
02-13-2024, 10:34 PM
The more I read about this the more confusing it is. Are we SURE this is a transgender?
If I’m not mistaken, it appears they were female-to-male transgender. Their real name was “Genesee Moreno”, but they went by the name “Jeffrey”. Or perhaps non-binary? Not sure.
https://twitter.com/SaraGonzalesTX/status/1757068047553007739
Some previous mugshots of them appears to look more feminine.
https://twitter.com/SaraGonzalesTX/status/1757068295516131440
Andrew NDB
02-13-2024, 10:45 PM
With a 7 year old kid... but those mug shots go back to 2005 of presenting as a woman. If it's a dude, how did that happen? And if she just started transitioning to be a male, how come the Jeffery names are from years past? Something's screwy here.
TurtleManiac
02-13-2024, 10:55 PM
Also seeing some reports that the shooter was an illegal immigrant, but was still able to buy a gun, and registered to vote in 2020
https://twitter.com/meantweeting1/status/1757515910091358438
oldmanwinters
02-14-2024, 08:41 AM
Another local report but with personal phone video from during the shooting:
https://abc13.com/lakewood-church-shooting-shots-fired-houston-megachurch-woman-shot-and-killed-by-police-5-year-old-boy/14414345/
Looks like the shooter only threatened to have a bomb, but I still haven't seen anything about the early report about the "black man with a rifle currently evading authorities in the vicinity of nearby restaurants."
The more I read about this the more confusing it is. Are we SURE this is a transgender?
And when they are locked up or dead they are just another @$$hole.
robertfiduciary
02-14-2024, 12:38 PM
Have any of you ever thought that perhaps none of you care one whit about any of these news stories that you're so hungry to share with the world?
That perhaps the only reason you share so many of them is the cheap dopamine rush you get when you do it?
That maybe (just maybe) you're all drug addicts? Just that the drug is, you know. Something your body naturally creates when you make it happy (like, by posting something that won't matter to anyone a year, a month, even a week from now).
And maybe (just maybe!) the people who produce the content (*cough*FoxNews*coughcough) are well aware of that fact?
So they feed you more and more outrage. And then you share that outrage, and BOOM!
Your body gets the drug it wants so, so much.
Has anyone else ever thought of that?
This isn't an accusation, either. I'm as guilty as anyone of it (like the "buzz" I'm getting from posting this right now). It's just something I think about.
Anyone else?
Andrew NDB
02-14-2024, 01:03 PM
Sounds like some world-class projection there. No, no dopamine rush. Only... let's call it "bemused apathy."
robertfiduciary
02-14-2024, 01:10 PM
Literally said in my post that I was just as guilty as anyone else. So, no. No projection.
But congratulations on being wrong, again :lol:.
And I'm sure your body can tell the difference between your "bemused apathy" (sounds like some world-class justification to me, but whatever) and the actual chemicals it floods your brain with.
(That's sarcasm, BTW. It can't, and it doesn't).
Sounds like some world-class projection there. No, no dopamine rush. Only... let's call it "bemused apathy."
Bahamut810
02-14-2024, 03:58 PM
Have any of you ever thought that perhaps none of you care one whit about any of these news stories that you're so hungry to share with the world?
That perhaps the only reason you share so many of them is the cheap dopamine rush you get when you do it?
That maybe (just maybe) you're all drug addicts? Just that the drug is, you know. Something your body naturally creates when you make it happy (like, by posting something that won't matter to anyone a year, a month, even a week from now).
And maybe (just maybe!) the people who produce the content (*cough*FoxNews*coughcough) are well aware of that fact?
So they feed you more and more outrage. And then you share that outrage, and BOOM!
Your body gets the drug it wants so, so much.
Has anyone else ever thought of that?
This isn't an accusation, either. I'm as guilty as anyone of it (like the "buzz" I'm getting from posting this right now). It's just something I think about.
Anyone else?
Thats literally all mainstream media now. Its why youtube journalists are becoming increasingly popular.
Andrew NDB
02-14-2024, 04:02 PM
"Journalists."
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