UnitedHealth CEO assassinated

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/unitedhealthcare-brian-thompson-death-12-5-24/index.html

https://www.foxnews.com/us/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompsons-killer-used-fake-id-check-nyc-hostel-before-slaying-sources

Apparently the killer used a fake ID and paid in cash to stay at the hostel he did. Also, used a burner phone (to call who?).

[ToTheNines]

100 percent a hired hitman.

No idea about motive though.

[Andrew NDB]

And without missing a beat, all of the leftists are celebrating this. Why is it always the leftists with this kind of stuff?

[Mayhem]

And without missing a beat, all of the leftists are celebrating this. Why is it always the leftists with this kind of stuff?
Might be something to do with this...


https://i.redd.it/b5mig0sj315e1.png


In related news, Anthem has already decided to roll back its decision to time limit coverage on anaestesia use in operations based on expected duration of said procedures.

[Andrew NDB]

Might be something to do with this...

Or maybe it's mental health.

[ToTheNines]

And without missing a beat, all of the leftists are celebrating this. Why is it always the leftists with this kind of stuff?

They view the world through the internet. It’s just a meme to them.

[Andrew NDB]

They view the world through the internet. It’s just a meme to them.

It really is. Like if tomorrow the headline was, "Biden assassinated" or "Nancy Pelosi assassinated" I wouldn't be grinning or laughing and fist pumping. I'd decry it and feel bad all around because that shouldn't be happening. But these people really seem to have the religion that, anyone that is remotely an "enemy" of their worldview... well, they just ought to be dead. It's childish and reprehensible and horrible. These kind of people should never, ever be trusted to have power.

[Cowabung-Gal]

And without missing a beat, all of the leftists are celebrating this. Why is it always the leftists with this kind of stuff?

I don’t think the right-wingers and libertarians are exactly mourning this guy. The mainstream media is blowing this up because he is a rich CEO. Meanwhile, the average person is trying to figure how they’re going to afford their groceries as well as Christmas presents.

Keep in mind, big pharma hasn’t been kind and fair to the People. I’m not at all condoning what this assassin did. I’m just saying, they are bringing this upon themselves with their greed.

[Andrew NDB]

Keep in mind, big pharma hasn’t been kind and fair to the People.

This is kind of betraying a pretty big ignorance in how healthcare actually works.

[Cowabung-Gal]

This is kind of betraying a pretty big ignorance in how healthcare actually works.

The US healthcare system is a joke. Other countries treat their citizens better when it comes to their medical needs and coverage, and we’re supposed to be the “model” country for them to admire and envy?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

But these people really seem to have the religion that, anyone that is remotely an "enemy" of their worldview... well, they just ought to be dead.

That's been all of human history. Some are just more honest about it than others.

[Barkworm]

The US healthcare system is a joke. Other countries treat their citizens better when it comes to their medical needs and coverage, and we’re supposed to be the “model” country for them to admire and envy?
Oh wow, I didn't think we'd fully agree on something one day.

[Mayhem]

The fact is, he was the head of an incredibly unpopular health insurer with a track record of rejecting a third of all claims automatically, earned over $10M last year, and likely caused thousands of deaths as a result of rejecting covering vital operations and procedures. The fact few people are mourning this assassination is completely telling.

Oh wow, I didn't think we'd fully agree on something one day.
Neither did I :lol:

It really is. Like if tomorrow the headline was, "Biden assassinated" or "Nancy Pelosi assassinated" I wouldn't be grinning or laughing and fist pumping.
You might not be, but I can easily bet a whole swathe of MAGA cultists would.

[Andrew NDB]

The fact is, he was the head of an incredibly unpopular health insurer with a track record of rejecting a third of all claims automatically, earned over $10M last year, and likely caused thousands of deaths as a result of rejecting covering vital operations and procedures.

That's not the way it works and he's certainly not the avatar of any of those things.

The fact few people are mourning this assassination is completely telling.

I think there's a radically big difference between not mourning the guy and actively celebrating his assassination. I didn't realize it even needed to be said, but then again... here we are.

[Barkworm]

What is "actively celebrating" in this case? Some idiots on facebook posting firework emojis or people literally dancing in the streets?

[IndigoErth]

I've barely paid a moments attention to this story, and it's a shame that anyone would be murdered -- well, maybe with some exceptions for ridding the world of terrorists, serial killers, etc -- but if those denials numbers are legit... it would not surprise me at all if the guy is some angry, unstable nut who has a now-deceased family member who was denied. :ohwell: It's so random of a target to choose otherwise, like you'd have to be pretty invested to even care who the CEO was, huh?


As for anyone supposedly "celebrating"... On one hand, yeah, it's kind of low if so, they're forgetting the human side of a murder. On the other, people feel poorly about our healthcare system and these companies, who profit well from it, who forget the human side themselves, esp when they deny or limit potentially lifesaving treatments. This guy's death won't change how it's run, so it's only a potentially empty sense of "sticking it to them."

[Mayhem]

Fake ID and burner phone suggest hired by someone, which is the angle the authorities are looking at.

[IMJ]

The US healthcare system is a joke. Other countries treat their citizens better when it comes to their medical needs and coverage, and we’re supposed to be the “model” country for them to admire and envy?

The U.S. Healthcare system is actually a free-market marvel but I don't expect literally ANYONE here to be able to compute that in it's entirety.

The U.S. insurance and coverage system on the other hand is highly problematic and is a mismatch of free-market solutions vs consumer expectations. Another point I don't expect literally ANYONE here to be to compute in it's entirety.

It's a very complex engine in a free-market solutions situation. The best thing that consumers in the U.S. can learn about "healthcare" is to equate it more like Wal-Mart vs Target. It's all just a place of business and you can leverage that, but people don't do it because there's this "mystique" that "Doctors are there to help you so you 'just' go to one".

Basically the biggest problem with U.S. healthcare are American citizens who put zero effort into understanding it. Most of the other problems actually fall underneath that, but again I don't expect anyone here to truly wrap their heads around that or want to wrap their head's around it.

But if you know how to use the healthcare system to the best of your ability we easily have the best in the world.

[Coola Yagami]

It really is. Like if tomorrow the headline was, "Biden assassinated" or "Nancy Pelosi assassinated" I wouldn't be grinning or laughing and fist pumping. I'd decry it and feel bad all around because that shouldn't be happening. But these people really seem to have the religion that, anyone that is remotely an "enemy" of their worldview... well, they just ought to be dead. It's childish and reprehensible and horrible. These kind of people should never, ever be trusted to have power.

Same people that wished all the unvaccinated would just drop dead.

'Get the shot or get shot". and all that.

[Mayhem]

But if you know how to use the healthcare system to the best of your ability we easily have the best in the world.
Healthcare should be a right not a privilege. You pay for a privilege. The only privilege here is that you have the choice to use the NHS or go private.

And besides, the survival rates for a number of chronic conditions suggests otherwise re America having the best healthcare system. So you’re sometimes paying through the nose and still not getting as good care as many other countries.

[IMJ]

Healthcare should be a right not a privilege. You pay for a privilege. The only privilege here is that you have the choice to use the NHS or go private.

And besides, the survival rates for a number of chronic conditions suggests otherwise re America having the best healthcare system. So you’re sometimes paying through the nose and still not getting as good care as many other countries.

Healthcare should be a "right". But your regular bull$#!( semantics aside, you can't force someone to give enough a $#!( about you to care for you. In tribal days people were denied healthcare from the tribe all the time unless the tribe needed them specifically for something.

Obviously we have different worldviews now over our tribal past, but the simple fact is that you cannot in ethical society, ironically enough, compel anyone to take care of you. And that is why there are free market solutions even for that. But healthcare isn't an 'inalienable right' because it requires other people to take care of you - and at the end of the day those people have a choice to do it or not. Freedom is a "right" because it requires nothing of others beyond "letting you be 'free". There is a huge difference.

Either way, America has the best healthcare system, even when it is restricted by government in terms of drug certifications and whatnot.

[ToTheNines]

Either way, America has the best healthcare system, even when it is restricted by government in terms of drug certifications and whatnot.

Lmao, one of the most insane things I have ever seen on the internet.

[IMJ]

Lmao, one of the most insane things I have ever seen on the internet.

:lol: It's true. Total sum, regulation included, it's 100% true.

[ToTheNines]

How indoctrinated are you?

[Mayhem]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1376359/health-and-health-system-ranking-of-countries-worldwide/

US is 69th in the world…

Also…


https://i.imgur.com/8SWYSK8.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

"Show me how you don't know anything you're talking about in one post." Yeah, that about sums up my thoughts there.

[ZariusTwo]

So there appears to now be cosplay competitions springing up celebrating the hitman and there are fanfics being written about him on Archive of our Own

[IndigoErth]

Tf... Some days I hate that people have access to the internet.

Though I'd be willing to bet that some of those are the drama whore type of people who enjoy stirring up outrage, whether anyone is actually doing that, or someone is just creating rumors of it.

[Andrew NDB]

And everyone is either saying thank you or posting memes about his insurance being denied.

Yes, I'm sure the "everyone" you see in social media from your "friends" are totally bipartisan... or sane.

I'm starting to see people take things a step further on Facebook and Instagram. Now these lefties have moved on from memes and celebration and now they're posting pictures and names of other healthcare CEOs.

*Edit: Sounds like they got their suspect. Luigi Mangione.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-murder-live-updates-12-09-2024

[ToTheNines]

A damn dirty Italian!

[Andrew NDB]

Now there better start being some Waluigi memes to keep things fair!

[CyberCubed]

Was this guy stupid, instead of staying low profile or undercover, he just goes back to work like nothing happened? I remember people thinking he fled the country.

[Andrew NDB]

Was this guy stupid, instead of staying low profile or undercover, he just goes back to work like nothing happened? I remember people thinking he fled the country.

Apparently him just nervously bumbling around with his batch of fake IDs in a random McDonald's did him in. But yeah, we can retire the whole "Wow, this was a super cold-as-ice super trained assassin" thing. If he'd just chilled out on splaying out fake IDs in front of restaurant employees for a few more weeks, he probably would have gotten away with this.

Sidenote: a few hours ago you could readily find his Instagram and Facebook. Not much there recently but it was interesting what was. Now there's suddenly hundreds of fake accounts just created in the last couple of hours and I can't find them anymore.

[ToTheNines]

Apparently him just nervously bumbling around with his batch of fake IDs in a random McDonald's did him in. But yeah, we can retire the whole "Wow, this was a super cold-as-ice super trained assassin" thing. If he'd just chilled out on splaying out fake IDs in front of restaurant employees for a few more weeks, he probably would have gotten away with this.

Sidenote: a few hours ago you could readily find his Instagram and Facebook. Not much there recently but it was interesting what was. Now there's suddenly hundreds of fake accounts just created in the last couple of hours and I can't find them anymore.

His twitter if anyone is interested: https://x.com/PepMangione

[oldmanwinters]

His twitter if anyone is interested: https://x.com/PepMangione

Dude looks like the sorta guy who might have been voted “most likely to succeed” in his high school.
https://i.imgur.com/gaBlQ1Gl.jpg

[Mayhem]

Apparently the gun is 3D printed, so he certainly has the nous and money...


Also cynical, but true given "they not takin' ma guuuuuuns!" especially as above...


https://i.imgur.com/NAaJ6Eb.jpeg

[ZariusTwo]

So they're finally filming the sequel to Mario 93?

[Mayhem]

So they're finally filming the sequel to Mario 93?

Nintendo wondering why "Luigi" is trending right now...


https://media1.tenor.com/m/zBOZbwKajksAAAAd/luigi-mario.gif

[Andrew NDB]

Look at this piece of sh**.

yKaq_XNu1OU

[CyberCubed]

Justice will be served. No matter what the motive, he still shot and skilled an (innocent) man in cold blood. You kill someone and you go to jail. All murderers shall pay for their crimes.

[ToTheNines]

yKaq_XNu1OU

The most fascinating part of this video is when they said “hundreds” of people called the tip line about potential perps, but Luigi wasn’t on the list.

Think of the many friends/family members and the probably thousands of acquaintances he has… and none of them saw that security footage and pegged him?

[ToTheNines]

Some fake **** circulating the internet, but here is his “manifesto”:

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently all of his loved ones kind of agree he went nuts when he had major back surgery after a surfing accident. Then he starting eating a lot of mushrooms and distancing himself from everyone.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Justice will be served. No matter what the motive, he still shot and skilled an (innocent) man in cold blood. You kill someone and you go to jail. All murderers shall pay for their crimes.

Unless you're Kyle Rittenhouse. Then you get speaking engagements and fireworks.

[Andrew NDB]

Unless you're Kyle Rittenhouse. Then you get speaking engagements and fireworks.

But Rittenhouse was heroic. Taking out actual rioting, raging convicted pedophiles.

[oldmanwinters]

Some fake **** circulating the internet, but here is his “manifesto”:

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto

I have a feeling the "[indecipherable]" isn't quite as difficult to make out as the website suggests.

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/vVgxGKv/470111910-602126478947472-730773331643277950-n.jpg

[ToTheNines]

This isn’t that interesting, but I ate at the same McDonald’s old boy got pinched at two years ago lol.

But Rittenhouse was heroic. Taking out actual rioting, raging convicted pedophiles.

I hate Rittenhouse for being cringe, but it is truly hilarious that you can just fire blindly into a crowd of “antifa” folks and end up bagging some of the biggest scumbags imaginable lmao

[Coola Yagami]

Wasn't Rittenhouse attacked and he shot them in self defense. You make it sound like he was shooting into a crowd at random.

[ToTheNines]

You’re correct, but that’s not the point I was making.

[Andrew NDB]

And it's an interesting point. As like, if we pretend that was a survey or a census and not a self defense shooting, and the sample size of leftists was that tiny (the people getting shot)... and you STILL end up with multiple pedophiles? lol... that's not good.

[ToTheNines]

And it's an interesting point. As like, if we pretend that was a survey or a census and not a self defense shooting, and the sample size of leftists was that tiny (the people getting shot)... and you STILL end up with multiple pedophiles? lol... that's not good.

I was trying to be funny, but yes that’s exactly what I was trying to say.

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/QFM4Y0V/ee9faca3-2947-4eac-a7c5-60e408efc4a5.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/JdqDKMG/470135517-10160691219091105-986737117340659442-n.jpg

[Wednesday's Serial]

But Rittenhouse was heroic. Taking out actual rioting, raging convicted pedophiles.

You're not actually this evil and stupid right?

Nobody is that evil AND stupid. That would just be a shame.

[Andrew NDB]

You're not actually this evil and stupid right?

Nobody is that evil AND stupid. That would just be a shame.

gtfoh with that stuff.

[Cowabung-Gal]

You're not actually this evil and stupid right?

You know what’s evil? R***** kids.

Rittenhouse is no hero by any means. He was a scared kid who found himself in a tough situation and had to defend himself, which unfortunately resulted in two deaths.

However, NONE of those men were martyrs for BLM. They weren’t even black; they were all white men, one of which was a convicted child r*pist who used the “N” word twice the night he was killed, more proof that he was sick in the head and a danger to others.

[ToTheNines]

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13789&stc=1&d=1734329230

[Mayhem]

Neither are heros. But a lot of the people currently getting triggered by Luigi being turned into some sort of folk hero are the same people who turned Kyle Rittenhouse into a folk hero. Can't have it both ways.

[Barkworm]

You're not actually this evil and stupid right?

Nobody is that evil AND stupid. That would just be a shame.

It's just the usual level of ignorance you need to get used to around here.

[xChri5x]

You're not actually this evil and stupid right?

Nobody is that evil AND stupid. That would just be a shame.

Pretty sure. It's one of the reasons I avoid this place. Seems like nothing has changed.

[ToTheNines]

Pretty sure. It's one of the reasons I avoid this place. Seems like nothing has changed.

I feel like it’s way better. I strongly disagree with most of his political opinions/takes, but how can you not love Andrew?

Not that long ago there was a sizable band of chuds running wild though lol. Incel Sumac, disgusting pedo Mrmaczaps, and a few others that have been banned or tuckered out and left. This was during my lurking era, but thankfully they’re gone.

More or less the reason I quit posting eons ago, was because the pendulum was the opposite direction with most active mods being very lib-biased and letting their preferred members get away with murder. Voltron being the most obvious example. Who was it that he used to bicker with?

[IMJ]

I feel like it’s way better. I strongly disagree with most of his political opinions/takes, but how can you not love Andrew?

Not that long ago there was a sizable band of chuds running wild though lol. Incel Sumac, disgusting pedo Mrmaczaps, and a few others that have been banned or tuckered out and left. This was during my lurking era, but thankfully they’re gone.

More or less the reason I quit posting eons ago, was because the pendulum was the opposite direction with most active mods being very lib-biased and letting their preferred members get away with murder. Voltron being the most obvious example. Who was it that he used to bicker with?

He bickered with me because I didn't tolerate his bullying onslaught of phony power and his outrageous extreme-liberal rage that he usually punctuated with arrogant laugh emojis.

[ToTheNines]

He bickered with me because I didn't tolerate his bullying onslaught of phony power and his outrageous extreme-liberal rage that he usually punctuated with arrogant laugh emojis.

Ah, that’s right. He was such a loser lol.

[Andrew NDB]

Ah, that’s right. He was such a loser lol.

IMJ isn't lyin'

Also, in what ways have we ever disagreed, Nines? Beyond Israel?

[ToTheNines]

IMJ isn't lyin'

Also, in what ways have we ever disagreed, Nines? Beyond Israel?

I think we have different worldviews. Recent example being I think you’re an Elon guy and I absolutely despise him.

But you’re my boy and we both hate liberals, so it’s all peace lol.

[Barkworm]

Aaah, can you feel the Christmas love here? :lol:

[ToTheNines]

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/m4ydm6ch_ctsp1a_k5cin2.png

[Coola Yagami]

Compared to all y'all, I guess I'm the boring one lol.

[IndigoErth]

Aaah, can you feel the Christmas love here? :lol:
Very warm and cozy, like a running car's exhaust pipes.

[Barkworm]

Between the self-proclaimed centrist and a liberal-hating Green Party voter, it's a bromance meant for the big screen.

[ToTheNines]

Somebody write it. Timothee Chalamet can play me.

[Barkworm]

I'm all for it. Let Andrew be the writer-director. I want a minor role played by Dev Patel.

[Mayhem]

If this is genuine, then no wonder a lot of people are denying a request for sympathy…


https://i.imgur.com/9oaqojA.jpeg

[IndigoErth]

Wtf, since when is a clot in a lung not a serious thing that needs to be taken care of pronto...


I hate that the hospital deciding it's best to take someone in as an in-patient, that the person just has to go along with because something is wrong, they aren't entirely sure what and they're seeking help, but then it's his/her fault for being an in-patient when someone sitting in an insurance office, not a medical office, decides it wasn't medically necessary.

[Mayhem]

Wtf, since when is a clot in a lung not a serious thing that needs to be taken care of pronto...

Exactly, the other half had a DVT at 18, her mother had several strokes in her life, clots are ALWAYS serious

[Wednesday's Serial]

GTFO this planet. You evil bastard.

Just evil and stupid. We don't need you.

[Andrew NDB]

GTFO this planet. You evil bastard.

You first, freak.

[Coola Yagami]

Let's cool it with the death threats or death wishes.

Leftists, oy....

[ToTheNines]

GTFO this planet. You evil bastard.

I hope another Luigi finds you. Just evil and stupid. We don't need you.

Hey that’s my centrist boyfriend you’re talkin to, asshole!

But for real: why would some deranged gunman kill Andrew? Because he’s the CEO of keeping Mirage comics alive?

Who would pull the trigger? Cferreira? Peter Laird? Some casual who loves Last Ronin?

[Andrew NDB]

Cferreira?

I totally forgot about that guy! But I still remember what the "C" stands for, LOL...

[ToTheNines]

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/m5n5v0xj_7h1j3p_k5cina.png

[neatoman]

What happened to that guy anyway? He hasn't posted in a very long time now.

[Wednesday's Serial]

Let's cool it with the death threats or death wishes.

Leftists, oy....

evil bastards perpetuating people dying for no reason, oy.

[Andrew NDB]

evil bastards perpetuating people dying for no reason, oy.

Go back to your fantasy land. Or maybe Bluesky or Threads or one of those things.

[Coola Yagami]

Go back to your fantasy land. Or maybe Bluesky or Threads or one of those things.

Never got the point of Threads. You go to Instagram, click on Threads which is... another Instagram?

I don't get it?

It's like going on Facebook, clicking on a 'Facebook 2' tab and it looks pretty much the same except you're starting over.

[Andrew NDB]

Never got the point of Threads. You go to Instagram, click on Threads which is... another Instagram?

I don't get it?

Threads and Bluesky are basically bargain basement Twitters for people who want to talk to others who, like them, are also really, really mad at Elon Musk for some reason and feel like they're somehow hurting him. And also lately to have a therapy group for like-minded people who don't want to embarrass themselves in front of non-lefties with their reactions about the election results and to tell each other how many nazis they saw today, etc.. And where they can post stuff like, "I can't believe the right is still LOSING THEIR MINDS about Snow White! LOL!" and get a lot of likes instead of a lot of laughy face emojis like they would otherwise.

You know. That kind of stuff.

[ToTheNines]

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2539767/luigi-mangione.webp?w=450&f=589bdb0fcd1057d7c36d13e60db45c4f

I know I looked like an idiot when my first instinct was hitman, but I’m now of the belief that these are 3 different people and it probably was a paid professional. This Luigi kid is just the patsy.

[Andrew NDB]

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/m5r9caeb_19gu786_144827.png

[ToTheNines]

Haha, literally laughed out loud. Props on the tag too lol

[Mayhem]

The one thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about…

[IMJ]

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

:roll:

F I.

[Coola Yagami]

I'm most likely be forgotten after I'm gone lol.

[ToTheNines]

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/m5u94p29_lknn8c_k5dfgd.png

[ToTheNines]

Luigi might walk free: https://www.nycourts.gov/legacypdfs/press/pdfs/PeoplevLuigiMangione-omnidecision-091625.pdf

[Andrew NDB]

Luigi might walk free: https://www.nycourts.gov/legacypdfs/press/pdfs/PeoplevLuigiMangione-omnidecision-091625.pdf

Well that would be pretty infuriating.