Nintendo Switch 2

[Andrew NDB]

Might be officially announced this Thursday with... something tomorrow?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2025/01/14/walmart-just-posted-a-massive-nintendo-switch-2-teaser/

I also read a very sexy rumor that Dragon Quest XII may be a secret launch game for it.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

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There will also be a Nintendo Direct on April 2nd dedicated to the new platform.

[Wildcat]

Pretty disappointing reveal since all they showed was what’s been leaked.

I’m kind of surprised they just named it Switch 2. I didn’t think they’d do the number thing since Sony already does that. Some say there was confusion with the Wii U name and people in general not knowing if it was a new system...it had a tablet for a controller...that wasn’t enough? Calling it 2 is fine though.

I know MS used Xbox One but that wasn’t meant as number. It meant it was an all-in-one machine.

Anyway I’m sure it’ll be a good system. Love the backwards compatibility but again they already mentioned that.

[Andrew NDB]

I’m kind of surprised they just named it Switch 2.

Me too, honestly. They've never done this before. I think it's primarily to reassure people that yes, it'll all be 100% backwards compatible with all of your old Switch 1 games.

I wonder if the motion detecting aspect is any better.

[Wildcat]

Ya it’s to assure people it’s a new system but it won’t be 100% compatible. It says certain games may not work or be fully playable. I’m sure basically all will be compatible except for a few special cases.

[Andrew NDB]

Ya it’s to assure people it’s a new system but it won’t be 100% compatible. It says certain games may not work or be fully playable. I’m sure basically all will be compatible except for a few special cases.

I can't imagine what they'd be. Or that they wouldn't be brought into compatibility eventually.

[sdp]

I wasn't expecting anything besides a quick reveal so they could control the narrative since the leaks were out in the open, so it's fine. I can wait for the real reveal in April. I'm guessing it'll come out in May, June at the latest.

Day 1 for me. My only disappointment is we still have no D-pad. Also perhaps the color choices, this all black one is too similar to the grayish black Switch 1. At least the all color joycons added some originality to it, but here that's kinda gone. The leaks say the other color is all white but they already did that with the Switch OLED so it doesn't stand out as new either.

Most likely it means games like Labo and Ring Fit Adventures that were made for the dimensions of the original switch. Or the IR scanner that I think 10 games used if that was removed. If a game doesn't work it could also be some very obscure title, I'm sure the library of most people will all run without an issue.

I'm guessing the price is likely $399 for the base model and $499 for the deluxe SKU.

I wonder what gimmick Mario Kart will have, so far it looks just like 8 so they have to do something,
8 introduced anti gravity and Tour introduced remixed changing courses. 8 deluxe already has a crapload of characters and tracks from the DLC that incorporated some of the Tour exclusive stuff.
Open world, adventure mode?


I will buy it when the next Pokemon inevitably comes out for it.

Ideally with a "Pokemon" edition console.
So you're likely getting one this year. I'm sure Legends ZA will be a cross platform game.
The Pokemon Company just releases slop every year, so you won't have to wait more than a year to get a non-spin-off

Starting off with Mario Kart but not the next 3D Mario makes me think we're not getting the latter at launch.

There's a new Mario movie next year, I'm sure the next 3D Mario is being released to benefit from that, whether they think it's Holidays 2025, a month before the movie or early fall 2026 in time for the digital release.

Can confirm I would also buy a new Switch for new Animal Crossing.
I hated New Horizons. I don't think I'll ever play a new Animal Crossing ever again and it was one of my favorite series. It kept getting worse with each new version.
I hope we can go at least get a Virtual Console release of the Gamecube one to go back when you couldn't control anything. It was never meant to be a sim game.

I hate how modern Nintendo is obsessed with Splatoon, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade...3 franchises I have no interest in. (I did like the GBA Fire Emblem's but stopped).

The more Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong games, Pikmin, etc. the better. Also if they ever revive Starfox and F-zero again. Pokemon and Animal Crossing being huge is also no-brainers.

I like Splatoon, I'd want to see what a Splatoon 4 offers. Don't care for FE or Xenoblade but those two are made by different teams that only make those games which is why we see so many of them. I do wish we'd get Advance Wars and a different RPG from those two teams but whatever.

I felt I got too much Pikmin during the Switch era, literally every game got ported and then it got an exclusive one. I could take a generational break but counting it's Miyamoto's baby we'll see one.

I'd like to see what they do with Donkey Kong now that they're ready to move on from the Rare design so hopefully also the games. I'd love to see something more along the lines of Donkey Kong 1994 now that they're using the classic design.

Rumor has it we're getting a remaster of F-Zero GX this year for Switch 1. Star Fox I'm confident we'll get a new one for Switch 2 eventually. We already know we're getting Metroid Prime 4 if that's a success then a MP5 will come and since Dread sold well I'm sure we'll see a Metroid 5 as well during the Switch 2's life.

Mario and Zelda you don't even have to ask for them, the switch literally had a new zelda game every year sometimes more, same with Mario if you count spin-offs. We're definitely due for a new 3D Mario. I didn't like Wonder much so i can wait before we get another 2D Mario.

[oldmanwinters]

1. Shocked that Nintendo finally put a "2" onto a console/system name officially.
2. I was hoping the traditional patented D-pad would make its return on the standard Cons.
3. The way the joycons snap onto the sides instead of sliding makes me feel like the system could have been named the Nintendo CLIKitch.

[Andrew NDB]

3. The way the joycons snap onto the sides instead of sliding makes me feel like the system could have been named the Nintendo CLIKitch.

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[CyberCubed]

Starting off with Mario Kart but not the next 3D Mario makes me think we're not getting the latter at launch.

[Andrew NDB]

Starting off with Mario Kart but not the next 3D Mario makes me think we're not getting the latter at launch.

We didn't have a Mario game on launch with the original Switch either. Or a Zelda game. Or a Metroid game. But they all came sooner or later.

If Dragon Quest XII is announced for it on launch, I'll go nuts.

[Roseangelo]

I will buy it when the next Pokemon inevitably comes out for it.

Ideally with a "Pokemon" edition console.

[Andrew NDB]

All they need to do is sh** out another Animal Crossing game and they'll make billions again.

[Wildcat]

January 16th - Mario Kart 9 reveal...April 2 - Switch 2 reveal.

Wish I thought of that yesterday. :lol:

[Roseangelo]

All they need to do is sh** out another Animal Crossing game and they'll make billions again.

Can confirm I would also buy a new Switch for new Animal Crossing.

[CyberCubed]

I hate how modern Nintendo is obsessed with Splatoon, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade...3 franchises I have no interest in. (I did like the GBA Fire Emblem's but stopped).

The more Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong games, Pikmin, etc. the better. Also if they ever revive Starfox and F-zero again. Pokemon and Animal Crossing being huge is also no-brainers.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

I am actually going to pass on the Switch 2. I have been a Nintendo fanboy my whole life, but Nintendo has made me too upset for me to give them anymore of my money. I originally bought a Switch Lite only to find out that my joystick got drift even though I was always careful with it. So I had to fork over 100 bucks to get it fixed by Nintendo only for it to happen again. So I finally had to cave in and buy a Switch that plugs into the TV. Nintendo kept releasing Switch's and Switch Lites knowing that they had those crappy joysticks. I bought a gamecube controller adapter so I can use my gamecube controllers since I want to preserve my crappy joy con. The Switch has a great library, but those crappy joysticks being released far after they were known to be a problem just really bugs me. I also really don't want to buy another console because I already have a crap ton of games and consoles.

[ToTheNines]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhhIZnja8AABT63?format=jpg&name=large

[CyberCubed]

Switch 2 is $399.99+ tax, so probably $450 total. Better start saving!

[member_removed]

I am actually going to pass on the Switch 2. I have been a Nintendo fanboy my whole life, but Nintendo has made me too upset for me to give them anymore of my money. I originally bought a Switch Lite only to find out that my joystick got drift even though I was always careful with it. So I had to fork over 100 bucks to get it fixed by Nintendo only for it to happen again. So I finally had to cave in and buy a Switch that plugs into the TV. Nintendo kept releasing Switch's and Switch Lites knowing that they had those crappy joysticks. I bought a gamecube controller adapter so I can use my gamecube controllers since I want to preserve my crappy joy con. The Switch has a great library, but those crappy joysticks being released far after they were known to be a problem just really bugs me. I also really don't want to buy another console because I already have a crap ton of games and consoles.

I hated that problem with N64, way too much joystick drift. feels like it's been a 30 year issue.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

I hated that problem with N64, way too much joystick drift. feels like it's been a 30 year issue.
I can excuse Nintendo for the N64 controllers due to the fact that they were one of the first joysticks ever made for home consoles. I use the Brawler 64 controller for my N64. They work really good. My Gamecube and Wii joysticks still work perfectly.

[Andrew NDB]

Switch 2 is $399.99+ tax, so probably $450 total. Better start saving!

That's nothing. That's like half of a PS5 Pro.

[sdp]

Finally got my preorder in.

[XERO]

Does anyone know if the Switch 2 will have longer video capture? I think a hour compared to 30 seconds is reasonable.

[Coola Yagami]

Does anyone know if the Switch 2 will have longer video capture? I think a hour compared to 30 seconds is reasonable.

Do the newer XBox consoles capture gameplay footage? I heard about the Switch 30 second BS too.

That's why I like the PS4. Longer clips or I can stream directly to Twitch and cut the clips up from there. I hope the PS5 works the exact same way if I ever get one.

[ranger_scout]

Pre-orders will resume on April 24.

https://deadline.com/2025/04/nintendo-delays-switch-2-preorders-trump-tariff-uncertainty-1236359874/

[XERO]

Do the newer XBox consoles capture gameplay footage? I heard about the Switch 30 second BS too.

No idea, I've never had the newer XBox consoles besides the original. The PS5 can record up to 60 minutes, though. It's how I record most of my footage for my channel. I use OBS for anything Switch-related, currently.

[Coola Yagami]

No idea, I've never had the newer XBox consoles besides the original. The PS5 can record up to 60 minutes, though. It's how I record most of my footage for my channel. I use OBS for anything Switch-related, currently.

But that requires a capture card or something right? Those are usually pretty expensive.

[XERO]

But that requires a capture card or something right? Those are usually pretty expensive.

Yes, I have an Elgato that fellow Dromer ThirdMarioBro lent me years ago. Works to a T. Only problem back then was I didn't have a proper PC that was powerful enough at the time.

Thankfully, one of my best friends lent me his old tower last year, so I'm all set for the most part.

[TigerClaw]

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[Mad Dog McMutt]

I just found out that the Switch 2 will not be using hall effect or tmr joysticks. How much do you want to bet that the joysticks are going to have the same problems as the Switch 1?

[Andrew NDB]

I just found out that the Switch 2 will not be using hall effect or tmr joysticks.

I have no idea what this means.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

I have no idea what this means.

The Switch 2 will have the same potentiometer joysticks that the Switch 1 has. Meaning they will very likely have drift problems within a short amount of time. Nintendo has become so corrupt within the last decade. They are choosing cheap manufacturing over quality.

[Andrew NDB]

The Switch 2 will have the same potentiometer joysticks that the Switch 1 has. Meaning they will very likely have drift problems within a short amount of time. Nintendo has become so corrupt within the last decade. They are choosing cheap manufacturing over quality.

idk. I've had the same joycons for years and years now and no drift. Though one yellow one stopped connecting to the Switch entirely, eventually.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

idk. I've had the same joycons for years and years now and no drift. Though one yellow one stopped connecting to the Switch entirely, eventually.

It sounds like you got lucky. I originally got a switch lite that got drift in about a year in a half. I just find it crazy that Nintendo is not learning their lesson.

[Roseangelo]

I scored a pre-order at 9:01 last night at Target, which was perfect because I get 5% off with my Target Circle card. :tcool:

This morning, we sold my housemate's Switch for $200. Just need to put my Switch together with the box, and hopefully another $200. So we won't be too much out-of-pocket.

(I will be keeping my Switch Lite, which is what I primarily played anyways.)

[Andrew NDB]

So if I format and sell my Switch, will I be able to recover my saved games and all when I reinstall everything on the Switch 2?

[Roseangelo]

So if I format and sell my Switch, will I be able to recover my saved games and all when I reinstall everything on the Switch 2?

You might have to check game-for-game, but in theory your save states should be saved to the cloud/your Nintendo account. And then you can download them onto the new Switch 2. Not all games support cloud saving, so that's why you have to check. Animal Crossing is its own unique situation that you won't be able to recover, if you have that.

Since I mostly played on my Switch Lite, I'm not too worried about the saves on my regular Switch. But I will be checking before selling it.

[XERO]

I scored a pre-order at 9:01 last night at Target, which was perfect because I get 5% off with my Target Circle card. :tcool:

This morning, we sold my housemate's Switch for $200. Just need to put my Switch together with the box, and hopefully another $200. So we won't be too much out-of-pocket.

(I will be keeping my Switch Lite, which is what I primarily played anyways.)

So, your housemate sold a Switch for another Switch, and now you're selling your Switch for another Switch, but you're also keeping your Switch as your main Switch?

[Roseangelo]

So, your housemate sold a Switch for another Switch, and now you're selling your Switch for another Switch, but you're also keeping your Switch as your main Switch?

Yes. It's a pretty straight forward switch of Switches.

[CyberCubed]

Hope you guys are ready for $79.99 games.

[Andrew NDB]

Hope you guys are ready for $79.99 games.

Welcome to like 1992. I remember Chrono Trigger, Dragon Warrior IV, and Final Fantasy III for $79.99 on the shelves.

[sdp]

I don't remember. The earlier memory of game prices as a kid were N64 games and they were $49.99 with Played Choice versions being $19.99.
And people would say that N64 had expensive games compared to Playstation.

I usually get most games on sale though, it's rare the games I buy day 1. For the Switch 2 I got the bundle so I only paid $50 for Mario Kart World which would be a game I'd likely buy day 1 and for $80 regardless.

Donkey Kong looks good so I'll likely buy that day 1 for $70 when it comes out tho...but those two games and GameCube games free on Switch Online will keep me busy for the rest of the year.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I usually get most games on sale though, it's rare the games I buy day 1. For the Switch 2 I got the bundle so I only paid $50 for Mario Kart World which would be a game I'd likely buy day 1 and for $80 regardless.

Donkey Kong looks good so I'll likely buy that day 1 for $70 when it comes out tho...but those two games and GameCube games free on Switch Online will keep me busy for the rest of the year.

Same! I got preorder the Mario Kart Bundle and put $5 on the pro controller. I forgot to preorder DK though...I'll probably go back and do that today.

[Barkworm]

Welcome to like 1992. I remember Chrono Trigger, Dragon Warrior IV, and Final Fantasy III for $79.99 on the shelves.

Right! I remember going to the toy shop to get Donkey Kong Country 3 and the usual price here was about 75 bucks. But then it cost 80 and I just had 75 with me. Crazy times. Cartridges were just so expensive.

[XERO]

Right! I remember going to the toy shop to get Donkey Kong Country 3 and the usual price here was about 75 bucks. But then it cost 80 and I just had 75 with me. Crazy times. Cartridges were just so expensive.

And you had to blow on them to get them to work right.

[IMJ]

....followed by the add-on wisdom later where someone said "no, no don't blow in them because the moisture in your breath will ruin the game - you have to use a pencil eraser to clean it!"

And then after that places like FuncoLand claimed "your games will never play correctly unless you routinely and regularly clean them using our cleaning kits!"

As if that was some important model of life - you can't just play your games, you have to "routinely and responsibly clean them too!".

[CyberCubed]

Some N64 games were $70. But that was the 90's.

In the early 2000's all PS2/Gamecube games were $49.99. That was nice and cheap where you could buy lots of games.

Then the PS3/360 generation raised prices back to $59.99, and this continued through the PS4/One generation. Switch was the same.

Now prices are going up to $69.99 for most games on all consoles, and $79.99 for premium titles.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

And you had to blow on them to get them to work right.

I remember having to do that so much for NES games but don't recall having to do that for SNES, back then. Now I do but I just figured it being because the one I own is super old.

[Roseangelo]

I remember having to do that so much for NES games but don't recall having to do that for SNES, back then. Now I do but I just figured it being because the one I own is super old.

You can replace the pin connectors on the NES relatively easily, which will negate the need to blow into your games (using a swab of alcohol is better). You can get the part for about $10 on Amazon. The up/down mechanism of the NES is why that happens. It's less of an issue on the SNES and N64 because those are straight down.

[ResidentEvil7]

To be honest with you, I don't really play much modern games anymore, because of the intense movement giving me motion sickness. If I do play a modern game, it's Pinball Arcade, or a digital game from the 1990s. I prefer games from my past. Such games as:

Resident Evil 1 - 5 - PS1 - PS3
Tomb Raider I - VI - PS1 - PS2
The Legend Of the Mystical Ninja - SNES
Bad Dudes VS Dragon Ninja - NES, Arcade
Pang - Arcade
The Legend Of Zelda - NES
Ninja Turtles I - IV - NES, SNES and Arcade
Dragon Warrior I - NES
Pit Fighter - Genesis, SNES, Arcade
Street Fighter II (all versions) - SNES and Arcade
Donkey Kong Country - SNES
Sonic The Hedgehog 1 - Knuckles - Genesis
Mortal Kombat I, II - SNES, Arcade

Yes, as you can tell, I'm more of an old-school kind of gamer. I personally believe games from the cartridge era were better than the overly high tech games of the past 15 years. Back in the day, we didn't need state of the art graphics and surround sound and intense motion to make a game great. The basics or a little higher were good enough for me or our generation.

Also, one thing I don't like about today's game is that when you buy a game, it requires more than one DLC purchase; weapons, levels, add-ons, gold coins, costumes, etc. It's no longer like the old days that when you bought a game, it was only a single purchase for the whole game.

The only time I'll support modern systems and even the digital downloading is if all my past games are available for it. Kind of like my Retron 3 system where I can play my old NES, SNES and Genesis game cartridges. Or even my PS4 where I download old games like Ninja Turtles Cowabunga Collection.

[XERO]

I remember having to do that so much for NES games but don't recall having to do that for SNES, back then. Now I do but I just figured it being because the one I own is super old.

SNES back then wasn't as bad when it comes to blowing cartridges, but the NES was NOTORIOUS for that, even with brand new games.

It's like the Tin Man needing oil every 5 f*cking seconds.

[sdp]

I'm really excited to play GameCube games on the Switch 2. I great console and haven't really played its library since the early Wii era. There's tons of classics from that system I haven't played including Soul Calibur II, I think I only ever played the Xbox version with Spawn. Mario Strikers the first one on GameCube is still the best on, can't wait to play it. I also never finished Pokemon XD and all of those games are either on available on launch or coming out on it this year for free with NSO.

[Roseangelo]

The second Switch is sold, another $200. We just need to put aside $120 by June 5.

[CyberCubed]

All pre-orders are sold out, so I probably won't be able to get one for a few months later. But that's fine, I usually don't get consoles at launch and Mario Kart is really all there is until that Donkey Kong game comes out.

Metroid Prime 4 is at least coming to Switch 1.

[sdp]

my preorder got cancelled :lol:
ill try to get another one but who knows if ill be able to

[LeotheLateBloomer]

https://www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-raises-the-price-of-all-xbox-series-consoles-xbox-games-confirmed-to-hit-80-this-holiday

No surprise, Microsoft also increases the prices for their current consoles including controllers and accessories. And anyone who doesn't believe Gamepass won't get a price increase is a fool!

[Autbot_Benz]

https://www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-raises-the-price-of-all-xbox-series-consoles-xbox-games-confirmed-to-hit-80-this-holiday

No surprise, Microsoft also increases the prices for their current consoles including controllers and accessories. And anyone who doesn't believe Gamepass won't get a price increase is a fool!

https://i.imgur.com/F82iXpr.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

Oh well. How often do I buy a new video game system? Maybe once every 3 years. Buy a new game? Maybe one every 3 months, or longer.

[IMJ]

I'm not super up on the Nintendo stuff but at a glance of the comments this sounds like the PS4 launch debacle all over again....
I don't think I've ever bought a system right "at launch", so my perception has always been "when you are ready to buy a system just go and do it and it's there".

[Andrew NDB]

I'm not super up on the Nintendo stuff but at a glance of the comments this sounds like the PS4 launch debacle all over again....
I don't think I've ever bought a system right "at launch", so my perception has always been "when you are ready to buy a system just go and do it and it's there".

Yeah, even PS5. I just bought it when I felt like buying it... even if it meant paying cash and meeting a guy off Craigslist by the police precinct with what looked like 5 or 6 of them in his trunk from Costco or somewhere.

[Wildcat]

Yeah, even PS5. I just bought it when I felt like buying it... even if it meant paying cash and meeting a guy off Craigslist by the police precinct with what looked like 5 or 6 of them in his trunk from Costco or somewhere.

So you paid a scalper? Those people don’t deserve a penny. They obviously don’t care about the product and are not fans of whatever it is. It’s not just electronics. All they want is to resell. Terrible people.

I finally got a PS5 Slim (physical, don’t care about the pro) for Christmas. I’m very grateful for it.

Ever since the PS2 consoles are always hard to get at launch. I stopped caring about getting them as soon as possible with the Wii. You just need to wait a bit.

[sdp]

Well I got a new switch 2 preorder although it's from a store that's selling it more expensive. Basically the same price as the bundle without Mario Kart. But oh well.
I did buy Mario Kart at a different retailer so it's possible I'll get the game a day or so after the Switch 2 lol.

[sdp]

Yesterday Ingot a case I bought for the Switch 2, it's not something I use a lot so I bought the cheapest one I liked. I barely used the one I got for Switch 1 so it should be fine even if not the best. It did make me realize just how much bigger the Switch 2 is.

I also bought some games that are getting free Switch 2 updates that I didn't own for various reasons, tears of the kingdom now that I'll finally be imaging through BOTW, Bowser's Fury which I never wanted since I already owned 3D World on Wii U and a couple of others.
Looks like they're shipping my Switch 2 launch day so I'll be receiving one day later most likely.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Got my Mario Kart World bundle preorder locked from Target along with a pro controller and a carrying case when preorders went live over a month ago, and I can't believe it's already next week!

Last week I preordered the GameCube controller too, so I'm really, really looking forward to spending a lot of time gaming on my system all next weekend.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm a little bit confused. Does the Switch 2 not automatically upscale all Switch 1 games to 4K? Or is it only the ones that have an added patch or update?

[Roseangelo]

I'm a little bit confused. Does the Switch 2 not automatically upscale all Switch 1 games to 4K? Or is it only the ones that have an added patch or update?

The updates being talked about basically upgrade the Switch 1 games to be native Switch 2 games. So those games won't be upscaled, they will just be.

But yes, you can still play any Switch 1 game upscaled to 4K. It just won't look as nice or run as smooth.

[Andrew NDB]

The Switch 2 is worth it for the upscaling alone. Switch 1 games look like garbage at 1080p on my TV.

[Coola Yagami]

Sounds like Switch 2 is just a big case of FOMO. Seems to be the only reason anyone would legit buy it and its games, at least at this point.

[sdp]

It's not just FOMO, and while it's awesome to have a new shiny product when it comes out, buying a gaming console at launch is a good investment. (https://miscrave.com/articles/nintendo-launch/) As we've seen the last decade or so, consoles don't really drop in price anymore like they used to, in fact the opposite is happening since they raised the prices. So you're paying the same amount for getting something a year or 2 later, so might as well enjoy your time with it.
It's rare that consoles get defects at launch, as much as people like to fearmonger about it.
Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong Bananza are going to be to must have titles for the rest of the consoles life. If you still have Switch 1 games, you can play them with updates (at least many first party Nintendo games) that will be free. You get Gamecube games. I think that's a solid case for buying it now. You're guaranteed to get tons of great first party games even in the worst scenario through out its life.

My Switch 2 shipment is expected on Friday a day after launch. But Mario Kart might not arrive until Monday for whatever reason, hopefully that's wrong but I'm not too worried about it. I'll play through some of the updated Switch 1 games in the meantime.

[Andrew NDB]

Sounds like Switch 2 is just a big case of FOMO.

Again, the 4K upscaling is worth it alone. Looking at games like Breath of the Wild and such on my 80" 4K TV will be like night and day now.

[CyberCubed]

That's like every new console ever, the launch only has maybe 1 game worth buying and the rest is just mediocre stuff or old ports. There's really only Mario Kart for launch, Donkey Kong doesn't come out to July.

Then Metroid Prime 4 is technically a Switch 1 game, even if the Switch 2 version should have a graphic boost. Then Pokemon ZA is a Switch 1 game too.

[Andrew NDB]

That's like every new console ever, the launch only has maybe 1 game worth buying and the rest is just mediocre stuff or old ports. There's really only Mario Kart for launch, Donkey Kong doesn't come out to July.

Then Metroid Prime 4 is technically a Switch 1 game, even if the Switch 2 version should have a graphic boost. Then Pokemon ZA is a Switch 1 game too.

Not gonna lie... it's pretty much a sh** launch lineup. And nothing really announced that's coming soon that's either exciting or not going to be available on other systems. If no actual games yet there should at least be some kind of tease for a new Mario, Zelda, even Smash Bros. or even Animal Crossing (and how disappointing will it be when the Switch 2 Smash Bros. game launches with like 1/8th of the roster of the last one).

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I wanted the Nintendo Switch to survive as the dominating Nintendo console for 10 years, until March 2027. Sadly, that will not happen.

[Andrew NDB]

I wanted the Nintendo Switch to survive as the dominating Nintendo console for 10 years

That would be a pretty lofty flag for them to wave when out of the gate, the Switch 1 was already behind everybody else in terms of graphics and even just basic resolution.

[CyberCubed]

Many Switch 1 games are getting free updates on Switch 2, like Mario Odyssey, Link's Awakening and Echoes, etc.

It's lame that Breath of the Wild/Tears Nintendo is charging $10 instead of a free update like all the other games, but they know they can get away with it. Any Switch 1 game getting framerate/graphic boost updates on Switch 2 shoudl be free.

[sdp]

My Switch 2 is getting ready to ship, so likely won't get it till Friday but I can wait. I'll be switching between MKWorld, BOTW Sw2 edition. Let's hope Bananza is on the same scale as a full 3D Mario and I'll get that Day 1 instead of waiting.
I don't game too much normally but I think I'll be gaming more than usual, even so, I likely have more games than I'll be able to play for the rest of the year with all the SW1 games I bought the last few weeks.


It's lame that Breath of the Wild/Tears Nintendo is charging $10 instead of a free update like all the other games, but they know they can get away with it.

You get the upgrades for free if you have NSO+, just join someones family plans, there's always people online that are forming "families" I pay like $10 a year for NSO+ on the family plan which includes random DLC, free trials of games, N64 games and now Gamecube.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Does the introduction of a new video game console also make you thinking back in previous ones?

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[Storm Eagle]

I couldn't fit the Switch 2 in my budget now. I'm just waiting on the Tears of the Kingdom amiibo that I pre-ordered, but they're definitely not coming today anymore. I even got to order a Yunobo amiibo from Best Buy last night after 1am. That's supposed to come tomorrow, and maybe the others will too.

I'd like to get Donkey Kong Bonanza, which comes out next month. So it would have been worth it if I could have picked up a Switch 2. Metroid Prime 4: Beyond will most likely come out before I get a Switch 2. I'll probably get the Switch 2 version of it to future-proof.

My local classic rock station does this thing called the 3 @ 3 where they play three songs in a row at 3pm, and there's something about the lyrics in them or even their titles, and they refer to something, and the caller who gets through with the right answer wins something. The only songs I remember them playing are " Who Made Who" by AC/DC and "Play the Game Tonight" by Kansas. It was about the Switch 2. There's a mention of video games in the AC/DC song, and then there's the title of the Kansas song. I think the one song that I can't remember has something in it about staying up all night, which is what people did to pick up a Switch 2. I actually did not think of the answer, but I think it's cool that they touched upon the Switch 2. I wonder if the caller even got one of his own.

[Andrew NDB]

How much do you guys reckon I can sell my Switch 1 for on eBay? Enough to make it worth it?

[CyberCubed]

How much do you guys reckon I can sell my Switch 1 for on eBay? Enough to make it worth it?

Mine is up on ebay right now, but I started it at only $49.99, we'll see what it ends at. I hope to get at least $100 for it.

Also I got the Switch 2 w/ Mario Kart bundle. Really surprised the stores had it in stock so I figured might as well just pick it up now.

[Wildcat]

Happened to goto my local Walmart today. They didn’t have any. Just Switch 1.

I wasn’t there for that. I just looked out of curiosity. I assume they had some yesterday. There’s a big cardboard display when you walk in.

My Walmart is very inconsistent though. New toys are hit or miss. Sometimes randomly there and then take a long time to restock. Same with Blu-Rays.

[Andrew NDB]

So walk me through this again. I can format and sell my Switch 1 BEFORE getting the Switch 2 and still keep all the games I bought in the e-store and I won't lose any saved games? I see a "System transfer to Switch 2" option in my Switch 1 settings, which obviously requires me to have a Switch 2 handy already.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Here are the rest (based on American release dates):

Jimmy Carter (1977–1981): Game and Watch (1980)
Ronald Reagan (1981–1989): NES (18 October 1985)
George HW Bush (1989–1993): Game Boy (31 July 1989), Super NES (23 August 1991)
Bill Clinton (1993–2001), Nintendo 64 (26 September 1996), Game Boy Color (18 November 1998)

[sdp]

Got mine yesterday, I only played for a bit, the console feels high quality, fast, anything Switch 1 runs better than ever. No reason to keep a Switch 1 so I'm going to sell mine now as well, it'll only keep getting cheaper in the aftermarket.

Mario Kart World so far feels like well Mario Kart, nothing special or fantastic, but I've only played Grand Prix. Haven't tried Free roam mode or Knock out tour which are the new modes.

So walk me through this again. I can format and sell my Switch 1 BEFORE getting the Switch 2 and still keep all the games I bought in the e-store and I won't lose any saved games? I see a "System transfer to Switch 2" option in my Switch 1 settings, which obviously requires me to have a Switch 2 handy already.

There's an option that lets you back up your Switch 1 to the cloud so that when you have your Switch 2 you can recover everything.
Your data is saved on the cloud for one year.
If you do this your Switch 1 will be factory reset and you can't use your account on a Switch 1.
I mean I didn't do this option but it should be the same result as if you do it with the console, it's meant for people selling and trading in their system.

Of course if you dont do the transfer your purchases are still tied to your account and wouldn't lose them but you'd lose your settings.

[CyberCubed]

I waited till I had my Switch 2 in hand to transfer over all my digital games and save files, but I'm sure you can do it before as long as you have a Nintendo account and cloud saves. But I wanted to be safe so I waited till I had the Switch 2, and just transfered it while holding them in handheld mode side by side.

[Coola Yagami]

Boggles the mind people are actually buying this overpriced doorstop. People love Mario Kart that much? The FOMO hits so hard.

[Drose18]

So walk me through this again. I can format and sell my Switch 1 BEFORE getting the Switch 2 and still keep all the games I bought in the e-store and I won't lose any saved games? I see a "System transfer to Switch 2" option in my Switch 1 settings, which obviously requires me to have a Switch 2 handy already.

Some games (notably the pokemon ones) don’t have cloud saves. Safest bet is waiting to get the switch 2 and transfer everything with the local connection before trading in or selling the switch 1.


Liking my switch 2 a lot. New Mario kart is a fun time.

[Andrew NDB]

Boggles the mind people are actually buying this overpriced doorstop. People love Mario Kart that much? The FOMO hits so hard.

Atm it's basically automatically getting "free" remasters of your whole Switch library. There's a whole ocean of difference in a 1080p output to a nice TV vs. 4K. Well worth the price. And the "core" games will come eventually.

[Coola Yagami]

Atm it's basically automatically getting "free" remasters of your whole Switch library. There's a whole ocean of difference in a 1080p output to a nice TV vs. 4K. Well worth the price. And the "core" games will come eventually.

I guess. From what I seen from your posts I know that means a lot to you, but it doesn't really matter to me. I don't need to be able to count every one of Mario's mustache hairs to enjoy the game.

[CyberCubed]

Mario Kart is overpriced at $80 but if you get the bundle it's basically $50 so it's fair.

[Andrew NDB]

I guess. From what I seen from your posts I know that means a lot to you, but it doesn't really matter to me. I don't need to be able to count every one of Mario's mustache hairs to enjoy the game.

It's a "video game." It's in the first word.

[CyberCubed]

Keep in mind the Switch 2 is between the power of a PS4 and PS5, so technically most Switch 2 games will look "last gen" but Nintendo hides it through cartoony graphics and generally good art design.

It's kind of a shame, up to the Gamecube we had Nintendo consoles that were actually more powerful than Playstation, but once the Wii came out Nintendo basically became forever behind a gen from Playstation/Xbox, and that's why most third party games don't come out on Nintendo consoles besides late ports years later.

Switch 2 is basically PS4 pro level so don't expect PS5-tier graphics.

[Andrew NDB]

That's fine. They brought the Switch up to modern day resolution and moderately in graphics now. The super intensive games that need ray tracing and next level this or that (like Grand Theft Auto 6 or Cyberpunk 2077 or whatever), I wouldn't want to be playing them on a Nintendo console anyway.

[sdp]

Well Switch 2 is the first graphical leap Nintendo will make since 2012. Wii kept the GameCube era graphics and then Wii U was the upgrade. Switch kept Wii U era graphics since it was a handheld hybrid.
Counting most games are still releases ok both PS4 & 5 it'll be fine. Not to mention cloud gaming will be even more common in the next few years. I played RE2/3 remake cloud version on Switch 1 and honestly it ran very well.

Played more Mario Kart, knock out tour is a lot of fun. And I personally love free roam mode, it's not the open world Nintendo lead us to believe but just driving around anywhere is so comfy, my favorite mode. I don't know if it's a system seller for everyone. I'm happy with the Switch 2 so far it's given me what I expected from it, I can understand someone like coola wanting to wait until another big game is announced.

[Coola Yagami]

Well Switch 2 is the first graphical leap Nintendo will make since 2012. Wii kept the GameCube era graphics and then Wii U was the upgrade. Switch kept Wii U era graphics since it was a handheld hybrid.
Counting most games are still releases ok both PS4 & 5 it'll be fine. Not to mention cloud gaming will be even more common in the next few years. I played RE2/3 remake cloud version on Switch 1 and honestly it ran very well.

Played more Mario Kart, knock out tour is a lot of fun. And I personally love free roam mode, it's not the open world Nintendo lead us to believe but just driving around anywhere is so comfy, my favorite mode. I don't know if it's a system seller for everyone. I'm happy with the Switch 2 so far it's given me what I expected from it, I can understand someone like coola wanting to wait until another big game is announced.

If anything, that new Marvel fighting game coming out next year will be what will finally get me to get a PS5. I can live without Tekken 8 or the new Virtua Fighter, but this Fighting Souls game just looks way too much fun to miss out on.

Maybe if the Switch 2 came out with something like that, maybe not as graphically impressive but with the same gameplay, and it was a Switch 2 exclusive... maybe that would have forced my hand.

[CyberCubed]

I mean ever since the N64, people just buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, that's basically it. There's sometimes some third party exclusives but other than that Nintendo has not had main third party support since the SNES days.

N64, Gamecube, Wii/Wii-U, and Switch and Switch 2 is basically for Nintendo's first party lineup. People have gotten used to this over the last 25 years, the only people who buy third parties on Nintendo consoles are people who don't own a Playstation/Xbox/PC and have no other choice.

[Coola Yagami]

I mean ever since the N64, people just buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, that's basically it. There's sometimes some third party exclusives but other than that Nintendo has not had main third party support since the SNES days.

N64, Gamecube, Wii/Wii-U, and Switch and Switch 2 is basically for Nintendo's first party lineup. People have gotten used to this over the last 25 years, the only people who buy third parties on Nintendo consoles are people who don't own a Playstation/Xbox/PC and have no other choice.

I know, but ironically that's what turned me off with Nintendo consoles after the SNES. It's odd, since I was playing Street Fighter 2 a lot thanks to the SNES, but when it came to N64 they opted to not do the Alpha series and Darkatalkers and whatnot, so I followed the consoles that did.

I know everyone loved Mario 64, Mario Kart and Goldeneye, but I never cared in particular. I pretty much got the PS1 for Street Fighter EX... then stayed for the Street Fighter collections, Alpha 3, and Tekken 3.

I mostly got the PS2 cause of the KOF games and Capcom VS SNK 2 and whatever else.

[Andrew NDB]

I never understood the love for Goldeneye. It was like a FPS shooter with multi-player for people who never owned a PC, I guess. For people who DID own a PC and played FPS games, Goldeneye seemed like nothing, or a dumbed down version of the far better FPS games that had already been available at that point for years.

[CyberCubed]

I mean I played it for the single player. Not many FPS have level-based games with missions/objectives, even today. The single player stages were great for 1997-era.

[Coola Yagami]

like a FPS shooter with multi-player for people who never owned a PC, I guess.

I mean, you pretty much nailed it. More people owned consoles than computers back then.

[CyberCubed]

Coola do you only play fighting games? Sticking to one genre feels repetitive. You missed out on a lot.

[Coola Yagami]

Coola do you only play fighting games? Sticking to one genre feels repetitive. You missed out on a lot.

Fighting games and beat-em-ups are my thing. Sometimes I'll venture out and get something like Persona or that Batman TellTale game series, but those are mostly what catch my interest.

That's why I love this new retro beat-em-up renaissance.

I rarely have the time to devote hours to a game, especially since I also devote time to reading comics/manga and working on my videos and watching wrestling and whatnot. It's easier for me to hop on for a few hours to play a few rounds of Street Fighter 6 and move on with my day. It's not like when we were kids without responsibilities where my bro and I would play Street Fighter 2 on the SNES all weekend.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

I have already heard stories about the Switch 2 joysticks getting drift. Good luck everyone!

[IMJ]

I have already heard stories about the Switch 2 joysticks getting drift. Good luck everyone!

Really? I never imaged that Nintendo's build quality on anything would be something that was in question.....

[Coola Yagami]

I've heard rumors of Switch 2's getting punctured screens because they way they put them in the boxes are screen-side up and sometimes store people might staple something on there not knowing that the console is like half an inch under the top of the box rather than Styrofoam casing or some other protective measure. Either that or the weight of other things as obviously these boxes are going to be stacked and such.

Then there were stories of some people being unable to play the console they just paid for until some update was downloaded on the 11th.

I'd say having something 100% dependent on the internet to function sucks for people living in rural areas without a good signal, but I'd imagine people living there wouldn't be able to afford a Swittch 2 anyway.

[sdp]

You can't believe everything you read online, obviously any errors like the stapled screen is going to make the news rounds and go viral even if there's only one case reported. Drift issues we won't really know for a while, I didn't get drift until 2 years in with my controller on the switch 1 and it's still very light, it's BS but whatever.

Anywho, anyone else been checking what games not on the official upgrade list got upgraded? Hyrule Warriors now runs even smoother than before, I now want to get the sequel. Advance Wars loading is also far faster, so it's much more enjoyable to play. Other games do seem to at least load faster though it's hard to tell how much of an improvement it really is. I've also finally been playing Mario Wonder but since I never played it on Switch 1 can't tell what the differences are, the game is ok, it's just 2D Mario not bad but nothing groundbreaking.

I haven't tried gamechat, this is my friend code btw: SW-1592-3080-9631

[IMJ]

I'd say having something 100% dependent on the internet to function

I can't believe that the markets have supported that kind of model anywhere at all to be honest.....

[Andrew NDB]

Really? I never imaged that Nintendo's build quality on anything would be something that was in question.....

Yeah, and again... I've had the same Switch since it first came out. Never seen even a little bit of drift. I think you guys are throwing your joy-cons around or sitting on them or something.

[Roseangelo]

Yeah, and again... I've had the same Switch since it first came out. Never seen even a little bit of drift. I think you guys are throwing your joy-cons around or sitting on them or something.

The only time I felt a little bit of drift on my Switch Lite, I just recalibrated the joysticks and they've been fine ever since.

[Coola Yagami]

I can't believe that the markets have supported that kind of model anywhere at all to be honest.....

People just assume everyone just has internet nowadays. Not just internet but good steady internet.

[sdp]

I mean everyone does have internet of some kind at some point, I've gone to really poor areas around the world and even there you see places where people can connect.
The internet required thing is becoming normal, but it's not really even needed for Switch 2, you can play Switch 2 games out of the gate, only some launch Switch 2 units didn't have the backwards compatibility for Switch 1 games on the system update yet, so basically the first batches that were shipped months ago that most likely already sold out by now.
Switch 2 is likely still the most offline friendly modern gaming system when compared to Steamdeck/PS5/Xboxwhatever

[CyberCubed]

Nah both my joy-cons from the Switch 1 got drift over time and the control sticks don't even work anymore. I never bought another joy-con set because of it and just used the Pro controller.

If the Switch 2 joy-cons drift too I'll do the same thing. I'm not buying $90 replacement joy-cons.

[The Deadman]

I got mine on Thursday and have been playing it ever since. Mario Kart World and Fast Fusion have been on the docket.

[sdp]

Come on Coola, join the FOMO, you're the only one that isn't playing the best of Nintendo right now

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[Andrew NDB]

I got my Switch 2 yesterday. Yeah, it's awesome to see all these older games in 4K. I didn't realize I had to pay $10 each for the true Switch 2 upgrades for Breath of the Wild and Tears but whatever. The new Mario Kart is meh... totally they could have just added new maps to the last one.

[sdp]

I got my Switch 2 yesterday. Yeah, it's awesome to see all these older games in 4K. I didn't realize I had to pay $10 each for the true Switch 2 upgrades for Breath of the Wild and Tears but whatever. The new Mario Kart is meh... totally they could have just added new maps to the last one.

If you are subscribed to Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion pack (The one that includes Free Gamecube games), you don't have to pay for the BOTW/TOTK upgrades, just don't buy it from the eshop, go to the NSO app and download it from there for free.

If you don't have NSO+ join a "family" group online, so it's divided into 5 of 6 people. I only pay like $15 a year to have NSO+expansion pack. If you get it individually it's going to be like $50 the year or something.

[CyberCubed]

Mario Kart 8 only launched with 32 tracks on Wii-U in 2014, it took a decade to get to 96 tracks. People genuinely forget how barren Mario Kart 8 was on Wii-U at launch, it didn't even have proper battle mode maps.

Mario Kart World being a launch title benefits it better, if Nintendo updates it over the entire lifespan of the Switch 2 we should get close to 100 tracks and tons of new characters/costumes, etc. as well by the time it ends. The open world will surely have some updates as well.

[Andrew NDB]

Any idea when they're going to put out different colored joy cons? It'll be pretty confusing if everyone is just blue and red.

[sdp]

Nintendo just announced price increases, we did it Switch 2 bros bought in before the tariff tax! Looks like those waiting will only have to pay a higher price.

Did anyone else join the NSO playtest? I'm having such a great time, can't wait for this game to come out. It's basically a Nintendo made MMO mixing Roblox and Minecraft.

[The Deadman]

There's a Direct coming at 9 am on Friday. Nearly an hour worth of content.

[Prowler]

I still am not fully into the idea of buying a Switch 2. The only games I really want to play so far are:

Donkey Kong Bananza
Mario Kart World
Final Fantasy 7 remake trilogy
Red Dead Redemption 2

Still no mainline Mario, Zelda or Pokémon game. Those are, like, the holy trinity of Nintendo consoles exclusives. Waiting to see how good the upcoming Fire Emblem and Yoshi games are too. Also, will we be getting a new Animal Crossing game? And will we finally get a new F-Zero?!

The upcoming Mario Tennis installment doesn't seem better than Aces, therefore not worth splurging 77 euros on it. Hell no.

Games that are on both Switches like Dragon Quest VII Reimagined and Pokémon ZA Legends? I'll just get the Switch 1 versionss instead.

Anyway, 2026 will be a fulcral year for the Switch 2. At the end of this year I will know whether to buy one or not.

[CyberCubed]

Metroid Prime 4 and Kirby's Air Riders are also great.

Also the point of the Switch 2 is it replaces the Switch 1 given its fully backwards compatible and a more powerful console. So you can sell your Switch 1.

[Prowler]

Metroid Prime 4 and Kirby's Air Riders are also great.

Also the point of the Switch 2 is it replaces the Switch 1 given its fully backwards compatible and a more powerful console. So you can sell your Switch 1.
I don't sell my consoles. I did not sell my original DS or my GameCube when I got a 3DS or a Wii either.

Prime 4 is also on the OG Switch.

[sdp]

While the Switch 2 does lack exclusive software, just the whole "it runs Switch 1 games better" makes it a worthy upgrade.

Mario Kart World gets a lot of hate but I personally love the free roaming mode. It's so comfy and everything I always wanted to do in Mario Kart.

Donkey Kong Bananza I could just not get into it. I'll force myself to finish it I only got to the fifth layer I think, I was hoping it would click but it didn't.

Kirby's Air Ride, I didn't buy this one but played the 3 day preview for hours and while i had fun, I didn't feel like I needed to buy it after that. I felt I had already gotten plenty of hours out of that game and it didn't seem to offer much more.

So far I don't think there's any Switch 2 exclusives that have been announced that I care about. Anything third party I prefer to play on PC. Splatoon Riders perhaps, but yeah it seems I won't buy any Switch 2 games until they announce their big holiday titles likely in June. I don't even need a 3D Mario or Zelda, a new Star Fox, or surprise either new IP or old I'd be fine with.

Pokemon Gen 10 is likely not going to excite me. Gen 9 was the first generation I skipped. I was so disappointed with 8, I didn't even get to the third gym. So I think I'm done with Pokemon games unless they impress me which I don't think will happen since their current strategy sells millions easily.

[Andrew NDB]

While the Switch 2 does lack exclusive software, just the whole "it runs Switch 1 games better" makes it a worthy upgrade.

I've been saying that since day 1. It makes a pretty huge library of Switch 1 games look like night and day if you've got even a moderately sized monitor.

[Prowler]

While the Switch 2 does lack exclusive software, just the whole "it runs Switch 1 games better" makes it a worthy upgrade.

Mario Kart World gets a lot of hate but I personally love the free roaming mode. It's so comfy and everything I always wanted to do in Mario Kart.

Donkey Kong Bananza I could just not get into it. I'll force myself to finish it I only got to the fifth layer I think, I was hoping it would click but it didn't.

Kirby's Air Ride, I didn't buy this one but played the 3 day preview for hours and while i had fun, I didn't feel like I needed to buy it after that. I felt I had already gotten plenty of hours out of that game and it didn't seem to offer much more.

So far I don't think there's any Switch 2 exclusives that have been announced that I care about. Anything third party I prefer to play on PC. Splatoon Riders perhaps, but yeah it seems I won't buy any Switch 2 games until they announce their big holiday titles likely in June. I don't even need a 3D Mario or Zelda, a new Star Fox, or surprise either new IP or old I'd be fine with.

Pokemon Gen 10 is likely not going to excite me. Gen 9 was the first generation I skipped. I was so disappointed with 8, I didn't even get to the third gym. So I think I'm done with Pokemon games unless they impress me which I don't think will happen since their current strategy sells millions easily.

I've played Odyssey and BOTW on the Switch 1 already. And I also am no longer playing games like MK8 Deluxe, Animal Crossing New Horizons, Smash Ultimate, Mario Golf Super Rush and Mario Tennis Aces, etc. So I don't need a Switch 2 just to have improved graphics. Plus, you need to pay a sum to "upgrade" those games to the Switch 2 version? **** that.

So no, it does not make it worthy for me. I buy a video game console for its LIBRARY. Paying 400-450 euro for a console just so I get better graphics for games I've already played? What a waste of precious money.

[Andrew NDB]

To each their own, of course, but "I don't care about the graphics!" always seems like a weird stance to me. Imagine listening to an audio book where it has a bunch of annoying static in the background but you can still make out the narrator, or a book where you can still read it but it's pretty blurry or it looks like someone sprayed nail polish remover over parts of the letters. "I only care about if the audio book/novel is good!" is a fine case, but wouldn't you want your experience of processing said audio book/novel to be as good as possible?

The "graphics" are like 75% of the experience. It's a VIDEO game. The VIDEO component should probably be top notch.

[Prowler]

To each their own, of course, but "I don't care about the graphics!" always seems like a weird stance to me. Imagine listening to an audio book where it has a bunch of annoying static in the background but you can still make out the narrator, or a book where you can still read it but it's pretty blurry or it looks like someone sprayed nail polish remover over parts of the letters. "I only care about if the audio book/novel is good!" is a fine case, but wouldn't you want your experience of processing said audio book/novel to be as good as possible?

The "graphics" are like 75% of the experience. It's a VIDEO game. The VIDEO component should probably be top notch.

You make it sound like the graphical differences between Switch 1 and Switch 2 are HUGE, as in going from Ocarina of Time or FFVII graphics to 2026 AAA games graphics.

And again, I've beaten or am kinda done with playing most of the Switch games I currently own. I'm not going to play Mario Odyssey or Zelda BOTW again just to justify paying €400+ for a Switch 2.

[Andrew NDB]

You make it sound like the graphical differences between Switch 1 and Switch 2 are HUGE, as in going from Ocarina of Time or FFVII graphics to 2026 AAA games graphics.

1920 x 1080 (Switch 1) vs. 3840 x 2160 (Switch 2). That is literally DOUBLE the resolution, alone, by itself. Without even getting into the processing and rendering improvements (for which there are many).

[CyberCubed]

You make it sound like the graphical differences between Switch 1 and Switch 2 are HUGE, as in going from Ocarina of Time or FFVII graphics to 2026 AAA games graphics.

The Switch 1 was barely above Wii-U level and between PS3 and PS4.

Switch 2 is basically a PS4 pro portable. It's less powerful than PS5 of course but it's basically a portable PS4 now.