Passenger Plane and Black Hawk Helicopter Collide In Mid-Air Over Potomac River

[ZariusTwo]

At least 30 bodies have been recovered from Washington DC's Potomac River, after an American Airlines flight collided in mid-air with a Black Hawk helicopter

The jet was carrying 60 passengers and four crew members from Wichita, Kansas when it crashed near Ronald Reagan National Airport. Three soldiers were in the helicopter

Rescuers are working in "extremely rough" conditions, emergency services say - with the water reported to be icy

The US Figure Skating association confirms "several members of the skating community" were on board the plane

US President Donald Trump says he has been briefed on the "terrible accident" and questions why the helicopter didn't "go up or down"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy7kxx74yxlt


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[ZariusTwo]

Update: There are no survivors

[Mayhem]

Dear lord, what a ****ing car crash of a briefing :roll:


BREAKING: Donald Trump sinks to a new low and blames "diversity" for the tragic plane crash in Washington D.C. — avoiding the truth that our Federal Aviation Administration’s leader resigned after Elon Musk pressured him to.

Trump then got brutally fact-checked to his face...

"Are you saying this crash was somehow caused and the result of diversity hiring? And what evidence have you seen to support these claims?" a reporter asked Trump during a press briefing.

"It just could have been," said Trump, offering no evidence. "We have a high standard. We've had a much higher standard than anybody else and there are things where you have to go by brain power."

The implication here is that diverse hires are somehow lacking in brain power — an assertion that is certain to please Trump's racist base.

"You have to go by psychological quality and psychological quality is a very important element of it," he continued. "These are various very powerful tests that we put to use and they were terminated by Biden and Biden went by a standard that's the exact opposite."

It must be pointed out that Michael Whitaker, the FAA's leader, stepped down from his role on January 20th after Elon Musk demanded that he leave.

And Trump wasn't done there...

"We don't even yet know the names of the sixty-seven people who were killed and you are blaming Democrats and DEI policies and air traffic control and seemingly the member of the U.S. military who was flying that Black Hawk helicopter. Don't you think you're getting ahead of the investigation right now?" asked CNN's Kaitlan Collins.

"No, I don't think so at all," said Trump. "I don't think were the names of the people— You mean the names of the people that are on the plane? Uh, you think that's going to make a difference?"

"Does it comfort their families to hearing you blaming DEI?" asked Collins.

"There are a group of people that have lost their lives. If you want a list of the names we can give you that, we'll be giving that very soon," said Trump. "We're in coordination with American Airlines. We're in coordination very strongly obviously with the military but I think that's not a very smart question. I'm surprised coming from you."

And it just kept getting worse...

"What plan do you have? Are we going to see some fired? Are you going to fire some of those diversity hires in the federal government? What plan do you have?" asked a reporter.

"I would say the answer is yes if we find that people aren't mentally competent," said Trump. "You see the language. The language is put out by them and if you see that— I'm not going to bore you by reading it again but these are not people that should be doing this particular job. They'd be very good for certain jobs but not people that should be doing this particular job."

In reality, the real problem is that the FAA is understaffed. We need more air traffic controllers, not fewer. By firing hardworking individuals just because they're diverse, Trump will make it even more likely that another tragic crash occurs.

The catastrophe of a press briefing just kept going...

"Today, you blamed the diversity element but then told us that you weren't sure that the controllers made any mistake. You then said that perhaps the helicopter pilots were the one's who made a mistake," said a reporter.

"Yup. It's all under investigation, " said Trump.

"I understand that," said the reporter. "That's why I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity had something to do with this crash?"

"Because I have common sense, okay?" said Trump. "And unfortunately a lot of people don't. We want brilliant people doing this. This is a major chess game at the highest level. When you have sixty planes coming in during a short period of time and they're all coming in different directions and you're dealing with very high-level computer, uh, computer work and very complex computers..."

"And one of the other things I'll tell you is that the systems that were built, I was going to rebuild the entire system and then we had an election that didn't turn out the way it should have," he claimed.

The most telling part of the briefing came next, when Trump was brutally fact-checked by a reporter.

"The cited FAA text that you read is real but the implication that this policy is new or that it stems from efforts that began under President Biden or the Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is demonstrably false, it's been on the FAA website—" said a reporter.

"Who said that? You?" interjected the president.

"No it's on the website, the FAA's website, it was there in 2013. It was there for the entirety of your administration too. So my question is why didn't you change the policy during your first administration?" asked the reporter.

"I did change it. I changed the Obama policy," insisted a flustered Trump. "And we had a very good policy. And then Biden came in and he changed it and then when I came in two days, three days ago, I signed a new order bringing it to the highest level of intelligence. Okay?"

Trump then abruptly moved on to another reporter, clearly worried that a followup question would further expose his lies.

[Autbot_Benz]

Dear lord, what a ****ing car crash of a briefing :roll:

is he gonna blame everything on DEI in his 4 years?

[Vegita-San]

Dear lord, what a ****ing car crash of a briefing :roll:

no, that was that mayoral 'press conference' that took all the important people who should have been at the crash site, to stand behind her so she could look important. while, at the same time, giving us NOTHING new about the situation.

I'm not blaming DEI here, I think this one might be terrorism. that helicopter headed STRAIGHT toward the plane. and should not have been training near an active airport.

and quite frankly, diverse hires ARE lacking in brain power. You need not look further than Kamala Harris.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean, are we just suddenly forgetting the last couple of years of DEI pilots/co-pilots? You know, pressing the wrong buttons and almost crashing plane after plane? This was all over the news time and again and the airline practices of this were largely exposed. I don't see the question being asked now in this instance as some kind of "bombshell."

[Autbot_Benz]

here is that DEI that Trump wants to blame for this accident


https://i.imgur.com/62NgcTv.png

[IMJ]

here is that DEI that Trump wants to blame for this accident

God you guys are so easy.

-sigh-
It does work if the testing and licensing standards changes impacted any tests because of DEI that any pilots took amidst lower standards to get POC's in place.

You guys really don't get it. You just aren't capable of having the conversation on the levels it requires - it's just one after the other of responses of the lowest common denominator. It's the same leftist brain-trust who took up the argument that "autism does not make you give a Nazi salute" - a point that literally no one actually made but was the easiest assault of nonsense to chew on and spit out.

90% of the time I have anything to say to some of you people it literally has to be about pointing out the way to have a conversation instead of addressing any point whether it's right or wrong. Just so much to unpack with some of you guys just to attempt the conversation somewhere down the road.

It's f'n hysterical.... And for the one or two of you logic-twisters who read this and now want to latch onto that I'm "condescending and holier than thou", I would point out that I don't have to do this in normal spaces and that in-fact the problem is more likely that you're just f'n @$$hole haters.

Dear lord, what a ****ing car crash of a briefing :roll:

It was a wreck of a briefing. Just presented very poorly.

[Mayhem]

The plane was on an approved and frequently used approach pattern to the airport. This is, in my opinion, almost certainly on the helicopter pilot screwing up.

and quite frankly, diverse hires ARE lacking in brain power. You need not look further than Kamala Harris.
The majority of DEI hires were women (only 4% black) so… you’re basically saying women in work are dumb?

[IndigoErth]

Dear lord, what a ****ing car crash of a briefing :roll:
It's quite something to hear or read him babbling and bulls***ing his way through stuff like he always does while talking about "psychological quality" and claiming he has common sense.

[Coola Yagami]

Trump came off as a fumbling retard if that article was accurate.

"It was THE DEI cause trust me bro. We need the big brain power on that there fancy powerful computers. Very powerful computers. Yes I know the best big brain people and the best powerful computers"

[Coola Yagami]

The majority of DEI hires were women (only 4% black) so… you’re basically saying women in work are dumb?

Ah dude, you're making it too easy for him.

[IMJ]

The majority of DEI hires were women (only 4% black) so… you’re basically saying women in work are dumb?

Liberal clownism strikes again with zero productive input and more bull$#!(.
Yet more evidence that you have nothing in conversation that is valid and rely on these tactics to get by.

Pure technodromer right there.

[Vegita-San]

The plane was on an approved and frequently used approach pattern to the airport. This is, in my opinion, almost certainly on the helicopter pilot screwing up.


The majority of DEI hires were women (only 4% black) so… you’re basically saying women in work are dumb?

the ones hired usually tend to be. easily controlled idiots.

[member_removed]

I mean, are we just suddenly forgetting the last couple of years of DEI pilots/co-pilots? You know, pressing the wrong buttons and almost crashing plane after plane? This was all over the news time and again and the airline practices of this were largely exposed. I don't see the question being asked now in this instance as some kind of "bombshell."

Can you please cite some sources.

Crew chief of the helicopter was a white male. Other crew members not yet named.
The instructor had over 1000 hours experience.

Seemly DEI played no part in this tragedy, on the part of the helicopter.

[IndigoErth]

Dang, a figure skating coach from (formerly?) the local university and two young kids, both with promising skating careers, who he was a coach to all died in it.


https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2025/01/30/dc-plane-crash-victims-delaware-coach-skaters-alexandr-kirsanov-angela-yang-sean-kay/78058508007/

https://www.delawareonline.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2025/01/30/PWIL/78063131007-sean-angela-2.jpg?width=300&height=349&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp

[Coola Yagami]

Can you please cite some sources.

Crew chief of the helicopter was a white male. Other crew members not yet named.
The instructor had over 1000 hours experience.

Seemly DEI played no part in this tragedy, on the part of the helicopter.

Total DEI hire. Clearly there were too many Hispanics in the airline business so they need to hire at least one whiteboy for diversity purposes. And over 1000 hours? Pfff. Rookie whiteboy numbers. Who was the pilot, Vanilla Ice?

[Mayhem]

Conspiracy or not, I've seen a plot of the helicopter flight path in the minutes before the accident. It looked like it was trying to head towards other planes in the area, but hadn't got the correct altitude. So... possible suicide by helicopter?

Which further emphasises my previous comment that the plane pilot appears completely innocent in this, and quite likely the airport controllers too.

[Vegita-San]

Can you please cite some sources.

Crew chief of the helicopter was a white male. Other crew members not yet named.
The instructor had over 1000 hours experience.

Seemly DEI played no part in this tragedy, on the part of the helicopter.

the latest rumor is that supposedly there was a transgender aboard with suicidal tendencies. if that is the case, then trump was right again.

however, that doesn't explain why the other two trainees didn't react and do something.

[Mayhem]

the latest rumor is that supposedly there was a transgender aboard with suicidal tendencies. if that is the case, then trump was right again.
Which has been shot down (no pun intended) from what I’ve read, wrong identification.

The analysis I’ve seen suggests the pilot was concentrating on the other plane you see in the video footage and was completely unaware of the other plane coming up to their left.

[ToTheNines]

How is EVERYTHING politicized these days?

[IMJ]

How is EVERYTHING politicized these days?

That's what happens when you routinely deal with the life-angry and non self-actualized. Everything is galvanized for any number of reasons related to maladaptive psychology. Also, the internet gives your standard provocateur-bitch anonymity so you can add cowardice to stupidity and the end result is "Troll".

That literally defines at least three of the routine users here on the boards. Politicizing everything means they don't have to look at themselves at all - too busy putting energy into strange trolling or rage against "the orange man".

What's even funnier is that they honestly believe to their core that we don't know this....

[Autbot_Benz]

Another Airplane crash

https://i.imgur.com/kGB93DP.png

[Coola Yagami]

the latest rumor is that supposedly there was a transgender aboard with suicidal tendencies. if that is the case, then trump was right again.

however, that doesn't explain why the other two trainees didn't react and do something.

Probably too scared they'd be cancelled if they so much as risk hurting his/her feelings. "Um heeeeyyy maybe one of us should take the wheel?" "TRANSPHOBIA!!!"


In all seriousness though, another plane crash in Philly???? DEI or not, what's going on? Are white people suddenly forgetting how to fly planes?

[IndigoErth]

I have in fact forgotten how to fly one, yes. Wait.

Really though, wtf Philly. Better be a terrible coincidence. I doubt a military helicopter training was any kind of purposeful act, but who knows about this one... sad coincidence or someone else tying to be a headline?

Edit: Never mind, it was a medical flight taking a child to another state. :(

[Stu_Padasso]

How is EVERYTHING politicized these days?

Because it allows them to push their agendas and pad their wallets.

What's even funnier is that they honestly believe to their core that we don't know this....

"We know they are lying.
They know they are lying,
They know that we know they are lying.
We know that they know that we know they are lying.
And still they continue to lie."
—Alexander Solzhenitsyn

[IndigoErth]

Kid and her mom on board were from Mexico (likewise the crew, a doctor, and a paramedic), headed home after she was threated for a life-threatening illness at Shriners Children’s Hospital. That poor kid had to fight to live...and then life just said "f*** you" anyway. So sad.

Oof, the videos... that poor plane went down like a missile.

[IMJ]

Because it allows them to push their agendas and pad their wallets.



"We know they are lying.
They know they are lying,
They know that we know they are lying.
We know that they know that we know they are lying.
And still they continue to lie."
—Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Beautiful post!

[Mayhem]

People raging online conspiracy the third pilot name not revealed yet. Overlooking next of kin must be informed, and possibly have not, especially if the database had say her parents, and they’ve died since it was last updated. But everyone loved a good conspiracy.

I’m just patiently waiting here for some actual non politicised facts to be said.

[Vegita-San]

People raging online conspiracy the third pilot name not revealed yet. Overlooking next of kin must be informed, and possibly have not, especially if the database had say her parents, and they’ve died since it was last updated. But everyone loved a good conspiracy.

I’m just patiently waiting here for some actual non politicised facts to be said.

it's interesting how we've found out VERY quickly who was on that medical plane that 'crashed'. but we still don't know who was on the helicopter 'accident.''

[Coola Yagami]

I have in fact forgotten how to fly one, yes. Wait.



Well I meant, white pilots since 'no DEI' is pretty much code for 'all pilots must be white... for some reason'.

[Mayhem]

it's interesting how we've found out VERY quickly who was on that medical plane that 'crashed'. but we still don't know who was on the helicopter 'accident.''
The names of the helicopter pilot and the third crew member were mentioned within 48hr, we know who they were. We don’t know who the copilot was.

[Coola Yagami]

How is EVERYTHING politicized these days?

Because nowadays everybody has been separated and classified by groups and boxes. Everyone is expected to act the same way based on their group or box, and if you happen to be a member of said group or box, everyone assumes your politics align a certain way.

I can't tell you how many people I met in real life that just can't 'compute' that I don't like overly woke stuff in media but still would never vote for Trump.

So nowadays if this pilot is anything but white, they're gonna gonna with 'IT WUZ TEH DEIs'. Wasn't the pilot white anyway?

[Vegita-San]

Well I meant, white pilots since 'no DEI' is pretty much code for 'all pilots must be white... for some reason'.

dEI means 'Didn't earn it'.

Kathleen Kennedy. she started as a cofee getter for most of the powerful men in hollywood. she married one of those men. and got 'promoted'. even speilburg said she was terrible at her job, but she kept on going up.
Now, we see how good she is on her own, and she's terrible without the men.

THIS is a DEI hire. not just because they are not white.

[IndigoErth]

Well I meant, white pilots since 'no DEI' is pretty much code for 'all pilots must be white... for some reason'.
Yeah, I know, was just joking since it sounded like a general comment. :twink:


People went all DEI inclusive by electing someone with narcissism and other personality disorders to be president, but he has an issue with inclusion, so maybe he should fire himself.

Kathleen Kennedy. she started as a cofee getter for most of the powerful men in hollywood. she married one of those men. and got 'promoted'.
Not exactly uncommon for family to be given advantages, even when not deserved. People just get handed positions in the family business (or White House positions they had no business being in last time!) or inherit the wealth a smarter parent built and then Jr. isn't any good at it and causes the whole thing to crash. (Trump may not be giving the jobs to his kids this time, but he's still handing them out to people who aren't qualified but just because they are willing to kiss his ass.)

DEI should absolutely hire only qualified people. But minorities, etc who exist within that qualified group should have equal chance... but society has often had a hard time doing that and that's the point.


Edit: If you have kneejerk gut feelings that someone who doesn't look like you isn't someone you want to work with/around or that someone of the opposite sex is inherently less capable despite qualifying... yeah.

No worries, there are places it can affect men (including white ones), too. Would be teachers? Some people are too inclined to see pedos around every corner these days, better not hire men, they might be more likely to touch the kids, right? Yeah, that's horrible not to give that chance to guys whose heart is in teaching and are qualified for the job. (And women assumed more trustworthy, given that advantage, but then some commit those crimes.) Same thing with male nurses if someone doing the hiring is likely to see men as less capable of being caring toward patients.

[Mayhem]

The employees who sent the video of the crash to CNN have been arrested. Okay… more going on than we know here? It’s the 2025 version of the JFK grassy knoll…

[Vegita-San]

is there some rule against that? I mean, people would have asked for it eventually.

and cell phone footage, or door cam footage would have come out if they didn't send it.

I haven't seen ANYONE talking about this. not the lame stream, or the new media.