For those in the U.S., how do you feel about food stampes (SNAP?)

[CyberCubed]

There's been a lot of talk of the Trump administration either freezing Food stamps, reducing it, or even cutting it entirely. How do you feel about the food stamps (SNAP) program potentially ending, even if you don't use it?

Do old people, poor people, or foreigners deserve to have food stamp assistance to buy food?

[Andrew NDB]

GROSSLY abused. I know a bunch of people actively just selling their food stamps (that they don't even need) for money.

[neatoman]

GROSSLY abused. I know a bunch of people actively just selling their food stamps (that they don't even need) for money.

How do they get these stamps if they don't need them and why would someone be buying them if all they're used for is to get food?

[Andrew NDB]

How do they get these stamps if they don't need them and why would someone be buying them if all they're used for is to get food?

They usually make juuuust low enough to qualify. But meanwhile they're already getting money from other things. And are you kidding? If someone wants to sell you $200 in food stamps for $50? That's a nice giant lobster night. Or two.

[Coola Yagami]

Most restaurants don't take food stamps. Food stamps are for actual groceries, and most of the time will not include pre-heated or prepared meals in there.

I don't think food stamps have any identifiable information, so if you have some, it's not like the grocery guy can tell it's not yours. So those assholes that sell em to other people are just running a scam for free money.

However, a lot of people actually do need food stamps and shouldn't lose them on account of the bad apples. That's like saying no one should be allowed to own a care since some people do hit and runs or drive drunk or whatnot.

[Andrew NDB]

Most restaurants don't take food stamps. Food stamps are for actual groceries, and most of the time will not include pre-heated or prepared meals in there.

Of course not. It's not for people taking their buddies for a nice dine out at Red Lobster. That would be nuts.

I don't think food stamps have any identifiable information, so if you have some, it's not like the grocery guy can tell it's not yours. So those assholes that sell em to other people are just running a scam for free money.

There is no actual "food stamps" and haven't been for decades. It's an EBT card that is like a debit card with your name on it and a pin number that gets reloaded every month on a certain day. But mostly these people will just go in the grocery store and buy what you want, they give it to you, and then you give them the cash so they can go buy their weed or worse.

However, a lot of people actually do need food stamps and shouldn't lose them on account of the bad apples.

Agreed. There just needs to be a WAY better system in place. I'm not even sure what it could be. Nothing is really stopping anyone from trading whatever they buy with the food stamp money for actual cash from people. I guess all that can really be done is make sure there is some kind of minimum work requirement or if they can't, then with definitive proof that they're disabled or if they've got mental issues, confirming that they're #1 real, and #2 irreparable, OR #3 that they're actively getting treatment for them (and I'm all for people with genuine mental issues getting the care and meds they need -- I am 100% OK with that being taxpayer funded) and not just cruising around doing whatever.

That's like saying no one should be allowed to own a care since some people do hit and runs or drive drunk or whatnot.

Isn't that exactly what the anti-gun people say about guns, though?

[IMJ]

EBT is a bridge program. Not a lifestyle.

That's a version of what I used to tell my caseload of people when I was awarding Medical, TANF and EBT to the public as a Caseworker.

How do they get these stamps if they don't need them and why would someone be buying them if all they're used for is to get food?

I'd answer this but..... ehhh. For so many reasons...

[Snowglare]

I've benefited from it before, so I think it's a good program. Many honest people could use assistance.

There is no actual "food stamps" and haven't been for decades. It's an EBT card that is like a debit card with your name on it and a pin number that gets reloaded every month on a certain day. But mostly these people will just go in the grocery store and buy what you want, they give it to you, and then you give them the cash so they can go buy their weed or worse.

Can confirm, this is exactly what happens. Sadly, some people who need assistance still do this, because they'd rather get high than feed their kids.


Agreed. There just needs to be a WAY better system in place. I'm not even sure what it could be. Nothing is really stopping anyone from trading whatever they buy with the food stamp money for actual cash from people. I guess all that can really be done is make sure there is some kind of minimum work requirement or if they can't, then with definitive proof that they're disabled or if they've got mental issues, confirming that they're #1 real, and #2 irreparable, OR #3 that they're actively getting treatment for them (and I'm all for people with genuine mental issues getting the care and meds they need -- I am 100% OK with that being taxpayer funded) and not just cruising around doing whatever.



Isn't that exactly what the anti-gun people say about guns, though?

They definitely need more oversight. Depending on your state and status, there may already be work requirements, and I know Goodwill is one of the places they send people, so it's a pretty low bar. I'd have to check to be sure, but I think the requirements are pretty lax for mothers, especially single mothers. That's how it should be, in theory, but it opens them up to a ton of abuse.

[IndigoErth]

I'm fine with it if it's going to those who need it. There are, at least locally, restrictions on what can be purchased with it, though restrictions could probably be more tight to dissuade people spending it all on junk food.

and why would someone be buying them if all they're used for is to get food?
People who actually want food buying them from people who are probably using the cash to buy drugs.

Though in some cases they may not have belonged to the seller at all and they maybe selling what was in a hacked account since some (most? all?) states do it as a debit card now.

[sdp]

ResidentEvil7 is not going to be a happy camper about this.

[CyberCubed]

One day I will figure out how to become a welfare queen. I may have to start laundering my money from the IRS.

[Andrew NDB]

One day I will figure out how to become a welfare queen. I may have to start laundering my money from the IRS.

Just get a job paying you under the table and then you can reap the maximum monthly cash assistance AND the food assistance.

[CyberCubed]

Seems like they blocked Trump from shutting down SNAP. I wonder how long that will last. I will be surprised if EBT is done away with. All those poor people and immigrants will become more of the homeless you see around and that's why we have government assistance. It's not to help people, it's to keep more homeless off the streets. It's bad enough almost every street corner has a homeless person.

Overall though poor people get our tax dollars.

[Andrew NDB]

Seems like they blocked Trump from shutting down SNAP.

More like, they are attempting to force Trump to dig into other monies that might be illegal to do so to keep people getting SNAP benefits. He's not shutting down anything, it's just running out of money. Like if you stop paying the power bill and then one day the lights go out... you're not "shutting down the power" it's just that the power coming in wasn't free.

I was also just looking at some pretty interesting stats. Apparently 52% of adult women on SNAP are obese, coupled with 37% of men who are also obese getting SNAP benefits.

[CyberCubed]

I was also just looking at some pretty interesting stats. Apparently 52% of adult women on SNAP are obese, coupled with 37% of men who are also obese getting SNAP benefits.

Yeah, I notice the welfare queens are always the same fat black or hispanic women. Like if they were starving and had no food to eat, logically wouldn't they be real skinny and bony...and not like 300 pounds? I always wondered how they're so damn fat if they're on food stamps.

And this is not even counting the fact that most of them have like 5 or 6 kids because they can't be bothered to use protection. So they're sitting there wondering why they get pregnant and keep popping out babies and having more mouths to feed, and then sit there complaining they need more money to feed their families. And of course usually the man leaves the woman because they don't want no fat chick with 5 screaming kids so it's now a single mother by herself.

I do feel bad for the little kids, they really don't deserve this lifestyle because of the poor choices of the parents. The deadbeat dads who leave their kids and then either get arrested or killed or do drugs, and then the 300 pound mothers who look like they'll fall over any given moment.

[Coola Yagami]

Sounds like 2 judges put a pause on this. Hopefully this means the crazies won't be looting Walmart tomorrow like they threatened.

More like, they are attempting to force Trump to dig into other monies that might be illegal to do so to keep people getting SNAP benefits.


They got money, they're just refusing to touch it.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, I notice the welfare queens are always the same fat black or hispanic women.

Oh, I'm not sure about that. I mean, there definitely are those, but there is a SEA of obese white women on said benefits. Most of them are still relaxing after the last "No Kings" (after arriving to it on their riding machines because they're too big to walk but still able to swing a "FASCISM!" sign). But apparently statistically it's mostly men on SNAP who are the mostly obese ones. But they apparently aren't as motivated to get out to the protests as the women. So we mostly think of the women. I don't really doubt that disparity, honestly.

They got money, they're just refusing to touch it.

Again, not that simple. Despite whoever is in your ear or pundit. There IS money "Around." But it's not clear if that can legally be allocated for something like food stamps vs. things like if there's a hurricane or earthquake and OMG, 10 million people need to be taken care of like NOW. Because if we put that to SNAP now then that money goes away. Two federal judges say it must (which kind of is equivalent to you can sue anything for anything, anytime), but there are other legal voices who are saying that's illegal to dip into these particular funds.

[Mayhem]

Just under half of those on SNAP are working anyhow, not “sitting on their asses”. 52% of those are single mums. Of the rest, the vast majority are retired, disabled, or children, so those often not in a position to work regardless.

It costs each American $36 per year to fund SNAP. It costs each American roughly $600 each per year to subsidise country wise company perks and tax incentives/breaks.

So maybe the actual solutions are reducing corporate subsidies and have them pay people better wages?

Yeah, I notice the welfare queens are always the same fat black or hispanic women. Like if they were starving and had no food to eat, logically wouldn't they be real skinny and bony...and not like 300 pounds? I always wondered how they're so damn fat if they're on food stamps.

Because the cheapest food also tends to be the unhealthiest. Doesn’t matter how much or little you consume, in general if calories in exceeds calories out, you’re going to put on weight. And sugar (read HFCS here) is a bigger leader of fat gain than fat itself, but that’s biology 101.

[Coola Yagami]

Oh, I'm not sure about that. I mean, there definitely are those, but there is a SEA of obese white women on said benefits. Most of them are still relaxing after the last "No Kings" (after arriving to it on their riding machines because they're too big to walk but still able to swing a "FASCISM!" sign). But apparently statistically it's mostly men on SNAP who are the mostly obese ones. But they apparently aren't as motivated to get out to the protests as the women. So we mostly think of the women. I don't really doubt that disparity, honestly.



Again, not that simple. Despite whoever is in your ear or pundit. There IS money "Around." But it's not clear if that can legally be allocated for something like food stamps vs. things like if there's a hurricane or earthquake and OMG, 10 million people need to be taken care of like NOW. Because if we put that to SNAP now then that money goes away. Two federal judges say it must (which kind of is equivalent to you can sue anything for anything, anytime), but there are other legal voices who are saying that's illegal to dip into these particular funds.

Didn't they just give away millions to some other country. How bout don't and tend to your own country first.

There's money. Wether or not they want to use it is on them. Also that White House ballroom doesn't sound cheap.

[Andrew NDB]

Didn't they just give away millions to some other country.

Loan.

Also that White House ballroom doesn't sound cheap.

Privately funded.

[Coola Yagami]

Loan.



Yeah cause we're gonna be seeing that money back any time soon.

[Autbot_Benz]

Didn't they just give away millions to some other country. How bout don't and tend to your own country first.


Yes he bailed out Argentina with $20 Billion

MAGA (Make Argentina Great Again:lol:)

Actually another 20 Billion so 40 Billion total

The Trump administration is looking to provide an additional $20 billion in financing for Argentina through a mix of financing from sovereign funds and the private sector.

That would come on top of the $20 billion credit swap line that the U.S. Treasury pledged to Argentine President Javier Milei and his government this month to bolster the South American nation’s collapsing currency.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-argentina-financing-economy-milei-billion-peso-fd38553ae03f4c33ce1288999469f7fb

[sdp]

Argentina has defaulted on its debt 9 times. :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

Yes he bailed out Argentina with $20 Billion

MAGA (Make Argentina Great Again:lol:)

Actually another 20 Billion so 40 Billion total




Exactly. How bout make sure Americans don't stare before helping other countries that could care less about us and laugh at us when we're down?

[ToTheNines]

Privately funded.

What’s the real story here? I truly don’t care either way, but MAGA people say it’s privately funded and leftcucks are very adamant that it’s costing the American taxpayer a boatload of money.

[Andrew NDB]

What’s the real story here? I truly don’t care either way, but MAGA people say it’s privately funded and leftcucks are very adamant that it’s costing the American taxpayer a boatload of money.

Of course they'll say that, because these are "private" donors. If something nefarious was going on its not hard to follow the money if it was coming from government funds.

[Mayhem]

What’s the real story here? I truly don’t care either way, but MAGA people say it’s privately funded and leftcucks are very adamant that it’s costing the American taxpayer a boatload of money.
It’s basically a “donate to gain political favour” vanity project.

[ToTheNines]

I mean, that’s the crux of American politics lol.

Obviously there are more altruistic things one could spend money on, but there’s way more nefarious sh*t going on in the world than Trump wanting to feel like a pretty princess. Seems like this is just the “current thing” to be outraged about and no one will remember it next year.

[Coola Yagami]

I mean, that’s the crux of American politics lol.

Obviously there are more altruistic things one could spend money on, but there’s way more nefarious sh*t going on in the world than Trump wanting to feel like a pretty princess. Seems like this is just the “current thing” to be outraged about and no one will remember it next year.

Are you kidding? People haven't forgotten about the wall, Stormy Daniels, him raping the girl at the beauty pageant (allegedly I guess?), the whole 'grab em by the pussy' line, the Proud Boys are 'such fine folks', J6. No one is forgetting none of that. Epecially if SNAP does go away. People will always look back and say he cared more about donating billions to Argentina and his dumbass ballroom than helping starving Americans.

He's just adding to the list. Just like his current denial of the Epstein list.

[Barkworm]

Are you kidding? People haven't forgotten about the wall, Stormy Daniels, him raping the girl at the beauty pageant (allegedly I guess?), the whole 'grab em by the pussy' line, the Proud Boys are 'such fine folks', J6. No one is forgetting none of that. Epecially if SNAP does go away. People will always look back and say he cared more about donating billions to Argentina and his dumbass ballroom than helping starving Americans.

He's just adding to the list. Just like his current denial of the Epstein list.

The problem is that people's morals have deteriorated to a level on which this kind of stuff doesn't matter to them. The agenda is more important.

[Andrew NDB]

People haven't forgotten about the wall,

That's a good thing.

Stormy Daniels

Oh god, nobody cares about that, if it happened at all. They've been trotting that out forever and it's the most ridiculous thing ever.

him raping the girl at the beauty pageant (allegedly I guess?)

Yes, yes, where the lady doesn't remember when it happened or even specifically what store (and who seems visibly insane in every media appearance). I'm sure that wasn't lawfare at all!

the whole 'grab em by the pussy' line

A great big nothing! He wasn't in politics when he said that and I'm sure nobody you know has ever said anything equally terrible at one point or another.

the Proud Boys are 'such fine folks'

FAKE. He said there's SOME fine people on the side of the protesters in Charlottesville. He wasn't saying those were the Proud Boys or anyone specific.

J6

For which he told everyone to remain peaceful and then to go home. Oh wow, so terrible! Clearly that was instructing an insurrection. :lol:

No one is forgetting none of that.

Oh, the propaganda wing of the left (AKA the media) is making sure of that. Probably some more J6 documentaries and such are coming up, no doubt. But it only is managing to wind up their existing base who crave more and more of that lunacy. I don't think they're managing to fool or really rope in anyone new, but I've been surprised before.

[Barkworm]

the propaganda wing of the left (AKA the media)
I mean, we know how much you love typing this over and over but let‘s be real here for a second: There has never been any positive coverage on Trump by reputable news outlets, conservative or left-leaning. At least not until the Gaza ceasefire deal. Actual journalists (not the scantily clad social media pundits some of you guys love) worldwide have been tearing Trump apart for more than a decade now. And with good reason.

[ToTheNines]

Come on y’all. Watch this video and tell me you didn’t laugh. Be honest.

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The problem is that people's morals have deteriorated to a level on which this kind of stuff doesn't matter to them. The agenda is more important.

Partially. I think more than anything, it’s the ultimate failure of our two-party system.

Not only do people turn a blind eye to their sides wrongdoing, they absolutely relish every instance of the other side being angry at something. No matter how trivial or idiotic it is.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I mean, we know how much you love typing this over and over but let‘s be real here for a second: There has never been any positive coverage on Trump by reputable news outlets, conservative or left-leaning. At least not until the Gaza ceasefire deal. Actual journalists (not the scantily clad social media pundits some of you guys love) worldwide have been tearing Trump apart for more than a decade now. And with good reason.

And now that the Gaza Ceasefire is over in all but name, he doesn't even deserve positive coverage for that.

Trump was funny for the memes and he was a tool to defeat the establishment. But he has long outlived his usefulness.

[Andrew NDB]

Actual journalists (not the scantily clad social media pundits some of you guys love) worldwide have been tearing Trump apart for more than a decade now. And with good reason.

You mean like the ones from MSDNC? Totally un-biased journalists?

And now that the Gaza Ceasefire is over in all but name, he doesn't even deserve positive coverage for that.

He brokered the deal. Why is it a reflection on him if Hamas can't help themselves but keep shooting at Jews in spite of it?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

He brokered the deal. Why is it a reflection on him if Hamas can't help themselves but keep shooting at Jews in spite of it?

Trump says the Ceasefire is still in place and that Hamas leadership was not involved in any breaches. Don't you dare contradict your lord Trump and suggest the ceasefire has been broken.

EVERYTHING IS GOOD AND THERE IS PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

[Barkworm]

Trump says the Ceasefire is still in place and that Hamas leadership was not involved in any breaches. Don't you dare contradict your lord Trump and suggest the ceasefire has been broken.

EVERYTHING IS GOOD AND THERE IS PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

Don't forget that Trump said his half-assed ceasefire deal could mean 'eternal peace'.

You mean like the ones from MSDNC? Totally un-biased journalists?
I don't consider any American TV news outlets respectable news sources. Anything where clowns like Chris Matthews run their mouths is an immediate no-go.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't consider any American TV news outlets respectable news sources. Anything where clowns like Chris Matthews run their mouths is an immediate no-go.

OK. Fine. What are the names of some of the honest-to-goodness, totally objective and non-partisan journalists you're thinking of when you say "actual journalists"?

[ToTheNines]

All the good ones got killed by the CIA.


I don't consider any American TV news outlets respectable news sources. Anything where clowns like Chris Matthews run their mouths is an immediate no-go.

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[CyberCubed]

I was in the grocery store today and ahead of me at the cash register was a black mother in her 40's (?) and her two young sons. She was talking to the cashier how her food stamps are gone and how her kids have to drink tap water. Her kids asked her for cookies and some fruit snacks and she said no because now they have to pay real money for good. :lol:

She was like, "Why the hell they gotta stop the food stamps? How am I gonna feed myself, my dog, and my two sons? My minimum wage job ain't going to cover it."

I guess people are already starting to hurt. Man all those lower income black and hispanic families will be screwed over the most.

[Coola Yagami]

I was in the grocery store today and ahead of me at the cash register was a black mother in her 40's (?) and her two young sons. She was talking to the cashier how her food stamps are gone and how her kids have to drink tap water. Her kids asked her for cookies and some fruit snacks and she said no because now they have to pay real money for good. :lol:

She was like, "Why the hell they gotta stop the food stamps? How am I gonna feed myself, my dog, and my two sons? My minimum wage job ain't going to cover it."

I guess people are already starting to hurt. Man all those lower income black and hispanic families will be screwed over the most.

You actually left the house?

[CyberCubed]

You actually left the house?

Only to work or for the occasional food. If only I could work from home again like during covid. Back then not a single ray of sunshine touched my skin for weeks if not months at a time. I actually forgot what clouds looked like.

[sdp]

Well don't forget the day you went to the pool and got sun tanned and your room mate was going to find out

[Barkworm]

OK. Fine. What are the names of some of the honest-to-goodness, totally objective and non-partisan journalists you're thinking of when you say "actual journalists"?

Quality journalism is not something subjective. It‘s non-sensational, not polemical and can be fact-checked independently. BUT of course it will be partisan here and there, at least on the surface.

You‘re a big boy, you know this. I guess you’re just too dependent on the algorithms of your news feed.

[Andrew NDB]

Quality journalism is not something subjective. It‘s non-sensational, not polemical and can be fact-checked independently. BUT of course it will be partisan here and there, at least on the surface.

You‘re a big boy, you know this. I guess you’re just too dependent on the algorithms of your news feed.

As a kid or when I was in high school I did see the kind of journalists you imply there are now. But for the record... no names, then? For the here and now?

[Barkworm]

You want to know the news outlets I read? For what? To show how biased I am? Okay, here it goes:


Frankfurter Rundschau (German center-left newspaper)
Neue Zürcher Zeitung (Swiss conservative newspaper)
NYT (you know it)
The Economist (British centrist news magazine)


Balanced enough?

[ToTheNines]

The New York Slimes? Get outta here!

[IndigoErth]

Back then not a single ray of sunshine touched my skin for weeks if not months at a time.

Tried to make the outer level of whiteness match the inner, huh?



At least she's not someone just sitting around doing nothing and has the sense to tell her kids no, so I do feel for that lady. Not everyone can have the high paying jobs, there are only so many positions to go around, and not everyone can afford the education to get there or just don't have the talent for it. Or even if they do, someone else got hired over them. It's unfortunate that society undervalues a lot of work so much that people can't at least afford all the necessary basics of modern life.

[Andrew NDB]

You want to know the news outlets I read? For what? To show how biased I am?

I thought you were going to name me specific reporters/journalists who would make your case that there are "Good Ones" (which I take to mean objective, putting The Story above any personal or political bias) out there still. Not your overall newsfeed.

[Barkworm]

I thought you were going to name me specific reporters/journalists who would make your case that there are "Good Ones" (which I take to mean objective, putting The Story above any personal or political bias) out there still. Not your overall newsfeed.

This is not my ‚news feed‘, these are the news outlets I read, all but one of them in their print-editions (yes, like an old guy).
For a quality news source, you don‘t have to cherrypick single writers, the writing should be consistent. The Economist doesn‘t even name their writers for individual articles. And that‘s fine, I expect any of their articles to be about the story first without being sensationalist.

[Andrew NDB]

This is not my ‚news feed‘, these are the news outlets I read, all but one of them in their print-editions (yes, like an old guy).
For a quality news source, you don‘t have to cherrypick single writers, the writing should be consistent. The Economist doesn‘t even name their writers for individual articles. And that‘s fine, I expect any of their articles to be about the story first without being sensationalist.


So in other words... none?

Not being a sh** here, just saying.

[Barkworm]

I tried to make this point above, if a news source is reliable, single journalists should not have to stand out. I could name one or two whose articles I have enjoyed or even some that I thought were crap but what difference does it make?

[Mayhem]

I tried to make this point above, if a news source is reliable, single journalists should not have to stand out. I could name one or two whose articles I have enjoyed or even some that I thought were crap but what difference does it make?
Apparently because Andrew thinks everyone is biased. Which is pretty much correct though.

[Prowler]

This is not my ‚news feed‘, these are the news outlets I read, all but one of them in their print-editions (yes, like an old guy).
For a quality news source, you don‘t have to cherrypick single writers, the writing should be consistent. The Economist doesn‘t even name their writers for individual articles. And that‘s fine, I expect any of their articles to be about the story first without being sensationalist.


From the outside, American media seems highly sensationalist or has a lot of sensationalist people. Like guys like Rush Limbaugh, The Young Turks, Bill O'Reilly, etc. who have their own shows to basically spout their political opinions in very biased ways. We don't have anything like this in my country. News are pretty mundane and normal. And even the most sensationalist newspaper/tv channel is not as bad as the most sensationalist American media or The Sun.

Maybe that's why Americans, whenever the world points a finger at them they accuse us of being spoonfed by the mass media or something. They probably assume everyone else's media is like theirs as well. Some even call mass shooting and school shootings propaganda... that's not what propaganda is. Those do happen in USA and more often than in any other developed nation. It's simply a fact.

[Barkworm]

From the outside, American media seems highly sensationalist or has a lot of sensationalist people. Like guys like Rush Limbaugh, The Young Turks, Bill O'Reilly, etc. who have their own shows to basically spout their political opinions in very biased ways. We don't have anything like this in my country. News are pretty mundane and normal. And even the most sensationalist newspaper/tv channel is not as bad as the most sensationalist American media or The Sun.

Maybe that's why Americans, whenever the world points a finger at them they accuse us of being spoonfed by the mass media or something. They probably assume everyone else's media is like theirs as well.
Hmmm... You might be on to something. I never thought about it like that.

[Prowler]

Hmmm... You might be on to something. I never thought about it like that.

Remember when Ben Shapiro went on the BBC and tried to do his whole thing but the older English reporter was not having any of it and refused to get played for a fool? If you haven't seen, you can easily find it on youtube still, I assume.

[Andrew NDB]

Remember when Ben Shapiro went on the BBC and tried to do his whole thing but the older English reporter was not having any of it and refused to get played for a fool? If you haven't seen, you can easily find it on youtube still, I assume.

This?

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[Prowler]

This?

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No? You really think I don't know who Piers Morgan is?

From the very first result on youtube search:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E

[Andrew NDB]

No? You really think I don't know who Piers Morgan is?

I figured you would but that was the only one that came to mind.

[Mayhem]

Andrew Neil generally is too savvy for any US politician

[CyberCubed]

How much longer do you think SNAP will stay "shut down?" They have a backup fund for emergencies like cases like this one, but I don't think they dipped into the reserves yet. Although if this goes on longer they might have to.

I honestly wonder if this is a way to starve out all the poor low-income black and hispanic families and get them out on the street.

[Andrew NDB]

They have a backup fund for emergencies like cases like this one,

That's the thing, right there. There's a backup fund for certain emergencies, but does this qualify as one of them? Some courts are saying no, it does not, and to dip into it for this would be illegal.

[Coola Yagami]

That's the thing, right there. There's a backup fund for certain emergencies, but does this qualify as one of them? Some courts are saying no, it does not, and to dip into it for this would be illegal.

Exactly how is helping the American people illegal?

They're sending ICE agents to harass, rough up and falsely arrest legal citizens just because they're a little too brown or their English isn't up to snuff. Why cover their faces? Why not ASK FOR ID before grabbing people? Why not send them after actual Chicago gangsters instead of unarmed citizens that can't fight back? Talk about how illegal all of that is.

[Andrew NDB]

Exactly how is helping the American people illegal?

Funds allocated for X cannot be allocated for YZ. It's just the law. Now, that may prove not to be the case but the courts have to determine that. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find unilateral support for a HUGE emergency package for a thing like SNAP benefits, which are supposed to be a supplemental aid. The government has been shut down for a month and whatever they DID set aside or the cushion they allocated lasted that long for many millions (a questionable amount of millions, at that), so there's that. That's a pretty huge amount of money as it stands.

In the meantime, maybe direct that ire to the democrats refusing to reopen the government instead of what your resident scare news is telling you to do? SNAP would restart tomorrow.

They're sending ICE agents to harass, rough up and falsely arrest legal citizens just because they're a little too brown or their English isn't up to snuff.

That isn't happening. If there are legal people rounded up in big operations targeting actually illegal immigrants they are interviewed and released. Obviously if you're the one legal immigrant swept up in a dragnet to take out 30 illegal immigrants in an operation on, say, a place of work... I mean, that sucks for an hour or two but what's the alternative?

Why cover their faces?

You're a smart guy, you know the answer. Especially after cartels have pretty loudly said they're hunting for these guys and their families.

[Coola Yagami]

In the meantime, maybe direct that ire to the democrats refusing to reopen the government instead of what your resident scare news is telling you to do? SNAP would restart tomorrow.





Nonsense. The Republicans have the ability to open the government. They just want to force the Democrats to sign a bill that will completely wreck health benefits for everybody. That's what this is really about. Sign our bill or else you'll lose SNAP/EBT and starve, and hopefully start riots so we can enforce martial law.



That isn't happening. If there are legal people rounded up in big operations targeting actually illegal immigrants they are interviewed and released. Obviously if you're the one legal immigrant swept up in a dragnet to take out 30 illegal immigrants in an operation on, say, a place of work... I mean, that sucks for an hour or two but what's the alternative?




It's happening to more than just a few. A lot of it can be solved by asking for and checking for ID before just strong-arming people and shoving guns in their faces. Any self-respecting citizen has their ID on them. I assume you do as well, as do I. They just don't bother to ask. Racial profiling to the extreme. The Proud Boys obviously don't give a ****. You wish it was just 'sucks for an hour or two'.



You're a smart guy, you know the answer. Especially after cartels have pretty loudly said they're hunting for these guys and their families.


Oh well. That's what the racist cowards signed up for. Regular police run the same risk with gang members, they don't wear masks like cowards.

[Andrew NDB]

Nonsense. The Republicans have the ability to open the government.

If they nuke the filibuster, sure. The nuclear option.

They just want to force the Democrats to sign a bill that will completely wreck health benefits for everybody.

Now you're just coming off at the seams, man. "Everybody" is on the ACA? It's crap. But more importantly, it doesn't cover crap. Even after I voted for Obama and looked into what I'd save with it when I was making squat wages it was ridiculously higher than what my crap company was already giving me. And that was at the height of it.

It's happening to more than just a few. A lot of it can be solved by asking for and checking for ID before just strong-arming people and shoving guns in their faces. Any self-respecting citizen has their ID on them. I assume you do as well, as do I. They just don't bother to ask. Racial profiling to the extreme. The Proud Boys obviously don't give a ****. You wish it was just 'sucks for an hour or two'.

IDs... you mean the ones you can get in many states you get regardless of your status? That doesn't prove anything. I wish it did!

Oh well. That's what the racist cowards signed up for.

AH! Now we come to the truth. I appreciate you leveling here. You want these ICE people to be dead and possibly their families. This is what the left won't actually admit, but you do.

[CyberCubed]

I mean I understand Coola's concerns, he's not only hispanic but of course has brown skin so is a likely target of ICE. Light-skinned or "white looking" hispanics are more immune to being targeted. Doesn't matter if you're a legal citizen or not, it's not like everyone standing around has a sign above them saying "legal or not legal" like a computer hologram or something.

Coola just got married and he doesn't want to be rounded off by the ICE agents, even by accident. He doesn't want to be shipped off to Alcatraz. :cry:

Even if Coola mentions he used to live in Mexico with his family despite being born in the U.S., if an ICE agent hears that it's "good enough" for them and he'll be shipped off and forced to work on the slave farms for the rest of his days. :(

Poor, Coola, he's "one of the good ones," he doesn't deserve to live in fear and prosecution. You hear that, Coola, you're "one of the good ones!" We know you're not like those other hispanics from Mexico!

#SaveCoolaFromICES

#JusticeForCoola

#WeLoveYouCoolaYagami.

:):):):):):)

[ToTheNines]

Why do you feel compelled to make posts like that?

[sdp]

Some people don't understand the struggle some of us have. Imagine being a black, a woman, a higher weight/curvy, and a gender fluid. That's 4 minorities all in one person. 4x more difficult life than the average WHITE CIS STRAIGHT MAN. And now they take our food stamps!

[Andrew NDB]

Some people don't understand the struggle some of us have. Imagine being a black, a woman, a higher weight/curvy, and a gender fluid.

Well, we'd have to imagine you (who's "us"?) as any of those things but the higher weight class because they don't apply to you. But for the sake of argument, what would this hypothetical "struggle" be on the day to day, exactly?

[ProphetofGanja]

Why do you feel compelled to make posts like that?

Trolls gotta troll

[ToTheNines]

Trolls gotta troll

I know the average cybercubed post isn’t meant to be taken seriously, it just seems oddly malicious and antagonistic when Coola has expressed legitimate anxiety over the matter.

[Coola Yagami]

AH! Now we come to the truth. I appreciate you leveling here. You want these ICE people to be dead and possibly their families. This is what the left won't actually admit, but you do.

Not particularly but that is what they signed up for. Let them reap what they sow.

I know the average cybercubed post isn’t meant to be taken seriously, it just seems oddly malicious and antagonistic when Coola has expressed legitimate anxiety over the matter.

Cybercubed is a troll. Anything he says rolls off my back.

[CyberCubed]

I want Coola to stay safe. :(

[Andrew NDB]

Not particularly but that is what they signed up for.

To put their families' lives at risks, you mean? But that's only if they DON'T wear a mask*.


*: Which is always "funny" to consider because the push for that is coming almost exclusively from the same people that insisted that everyone must wear masks and you're a selfish prick if you don't and probably want to kill grandma, too.

[Coola Yagami]

To put their families' lives at risks, you mean? But that's only if they DON'T wear a mask*.


*: Which is always "funny" to consider because the push for that is coming almost exclusively from the same people that insisted that everyone must wear masks and you're a selfish prick if you don't and probably want to kill grandma, too.

Yeah cause those people were grabbing innocent people, even elderly and beating them up or dragging them through the streets to stuff them into their vans. Funny how these racist bullies want free enterprise to beat up and harass whoever they want while hiding under masks to prevent any consequences.

But of course, your type would consider those 'collateral damage' because it's more important to harass Felipe selling fruit in the corner than going after actual gang members or cartel types.

All these people claiming they're 'taking their jobs' and yet you don't see white people tripping over themselves to work picking fruit in the fields.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah cause those people were grabbing innocent people, even elderly and beating them up or dragging them through the streets to stuff them into their vans

This is a very fictional world you've created for yourself, hosted by a news media that thinks you're stupid.

[Coola Yagami]

This is a very fictional world you've created for yourself, hosted by a news media that thinks you're stupid.

I guess by your logic you're like, the only legal Hispanic in the entire country.

[Andrew NDB]

I guess by your logic you're like, the only legal Hispanic in the entire country.

I don't even know what that means. They really got you good, though... and that's too bad.

[Mayhem]

If you honestly think ICE has not grabbed tourists and legal citizens as part of its campaign, then you’re living in cuckoo land Andrew…

[Andrew NDB]

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[FredWolfLeonardo]

#MakeAndrewSupportHillaryAgain

[Andrew NDB]

#MakeAndrewSupportHillaryAgain

Hah! Well, I'd gladly vote democrat again if they became... well, not insane again. It was really the aftermath of Hillary losing, the ripples that sent every which way to people, that really opened my eyes.

[Barkworm]

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abf1234
Consistent with other studies, we find that American conservatives are more likely than liberals to hold misperceptions. Visual inspection suggests stark ideological differences. Conservatives tend to claim more falsehoods are true, while the number of truths believed is modestly lower.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abf1234

I was a democrat most of my life. What does that say? And hell, I'm still all for abortion, like the #1 issue on the left (for some reason). I think it should be treated far more seriously than "just this thing I did yesterday," but that's about it.

And I've often thought about ideas of "who is most susceptible to manipulation?" in terms of large, easy to discern groups at great length. But it is a much more nuanced discussion to be had. I didn't think it always was such but it is.

[Mayhem]

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abf1234
Mostly because conservatives are lower intelligence overall, more easily swayed by those in power, and less willing to accept changes or rebuttals to their held conceptions. Most scientists are lefter leaning, and thus the people most open to changing what is believed when new facts and evidence are presented. Highly religious people are the least likely to change their views.

[Andrew NDB]

Mostly because conservatives are lower intelligence overall

There we go. There it is. Did we learn nothing from COVID?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Hah! Well, I'd gladly vote democrat again if they became... well, not insane again. It was really the aftermath of Hillary losing, the ripples that sent every which way to people, that really opened my eyes.

I feel almost the opposite in a way. I thought Hillary's positions were insane back in 2016, and I supported Trump over her during that time.

Trumpism before the First Term was a cool, risky and dangerous thing to adopt, it went against the establishment. After Trump won the first time and became the establishment, supporting him became much more "safe", and no longer worth fighting for in my eyes.

I was a democrat most of my life. What does that say? And hell, I'm still all for abortion, like the #1 issue on the left (for some reason). I think it should be treated far more seriously than "just this thing I did yesterday," but that's about it

You're still a liberal in my eyes, as are many of the Modern Trump fans.

[ToTheNines]

Somebodies been Groyping lol

[Coola Yagami]

If you honestly think ICE has not grabbed tourists and legal citizens as part of its campaign, then you’re living in cuckoo land Andrew…

Just blind denial. Especially when Google and Youtube are a thing. People film ICE harassing regular people all the time.

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But things might look different from his high horse.

[sdp]

Speaking Vanilla Ice, Andrew is an anchor baby, perhaps we should send a tip to check up on him, just to be sure. I mean he's from what Trump called a dangerous drug state. If he has nothing to hide then there's nothing to fear.

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[ZariusTwo]

I'm almost kind of relieved David Icke is allowed back on Youtube rofl, I'm a sucker for more interstellar reasons reality is as fudged as it is:P

Reptiles beware!

[Mayhem]

I'm almost kind of relieved David Icke is allowed back on Youtube rofl, I'm a sucker for more interstellar reasons reality is as fudged as it is:P

Reptiles beware!
Oh god blast from the past there…

[Andrew NDB]

Speaking Vanilla Ice, Andrew is an anchor baby, perhaps we should send a tip to check up on him, just to be sure.

I've talked about this at length but I'll spell it out for you, now that you're taking a break your fake persona.

My mom came from Colombia in the 70s. It was a process that took about 5 years. But she came and wed my dad, who brought her in on a fiance visa. And then they married. It was arduous but by the letter, and she didn't even get her full citizenship until about 1990. There is no "anchor baby,." I came after. The very idea makes her sick to her stomach.

So yes. She is sickened by the thousands/millions that have poured over the border either being given what she fought for for so many years or being fought for by third parties to give them later on -- after successfully having illegally snuck in long enough without having being caught.

[Mayhem]

and she didn't even get her full citizenship until about 1990. There is no "anchor baby,." I came after.
You’re not even 35? :teek:

[CyberCubed]

You’re not even 35? :teek:

Andrew is 44 according to his profile, he was born in 1981.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Danngggg there's an almost 20 year gap between myself and Andrew, no wonder our views are so different.

Somebodies been Groyping lol

Good evening everyone, you're watching Technodrome First, my name is FuentesWolfLeonardo, we have a great show for you tonight, very excited to be with you here on Saturday. We have a lot to talk to about, lots to get into, BIG SHOW.

Our featured story tonight is how the Nick-Tucker interview led directly to the ongoing Andrew Sdp Feud and how Israel is most likely involved.

[CyberCubed]

Honestly it makes sense for generational gaps to have different views on the world. People in their late 30's and 40's were born in the 80's and experienced life before the 2000's.

You young Gen-Z kiddo's in the 2000's or very late 90's were exposed to a very different world and social media landscape. Like it blows my mind people were born AFTER 9/11 for example.

[IndigoErth]

Like it blows my mind people were born AFTER 9/11 for example.

I'm sure some older people felt the same of us all being born after Vietnam.

Some of us instead having childhood landmarks of the Cold War, Berlin Wall, and the Challenger shuttle exploding, among others. Or for those a bit younger, perhaps 9/11 and war in Afghanistan, Columbia shuttle exploding, the Great Recession, etc instead...

Today's kids...well, a global pandemic at the top of that list.

[CyberCubed]

By the time we were in the late 80's or 90's all that stuff felt like ancient history like you'd read in history books in school. It's hard to believe 9/11 is now over 25 years ago, to put it in perspective kids of today are reading that in their "history books."

[ToTheNines]

Andrew is 44 according to his profile, he was born in 1981.

Any real TMNT fan knows Andrew was a teenager in 1997-99 because he was in the lettercol of almost every Volume 3 issue.

Danngggg there's an almost 20 year gap between myself and Andrew, no wonder our views are so different.



Good evening everyone, you're watching Technodrome First, my name is FuentesWolfLeonardo, we have a great show for you tonight, very excited to be with you here on Saturday. We have a lot to talk to about, lots to get into, BIG SHOW.

Our featured story tonight is how the Nick-Tucker interview led directly to the ongoing Andrew Sdp Feud and how Israel is most likely involved.

:lol:

Hey we already have our fake Trump tweets. I guess the next step is entire podcasts recorded with AI voice filters.

[Mayhem]

Andrew is 44 according to his profile, he was born in 1981.
Well then he was born before his mum got US citizenship then. So only his dad was a citizen at the time of birth.

[Andrew NDB]

Well then he was born before his mum got US citizenship then. So only his dad was a citizen at the time of birth.

Yeah, no sh**. But she was never not legal.

[sdp]

That's still an anchor baby

[Coola Yagami]

That's still an anchor baby

And Andrew's good buddy Trump is trying to do away with birth-right citizenship.

Whoops.

[Andrew NDB]

That's still an anchor baby

No it's not. She came on a fiancee visa. She got married on it. After 2 years of staying married on a fiancee visa you're a permanent resident. That'a the way this works. And I was born after like 5 years of them being married anyway. Then, around 1990 she got her citizenship not because she had to, but because she wanted to.

And Andrew's good buddy Trump is trying to do away with birth-right citizenship.

Coming here completely illegally or even overstaying a visa and having a kid here is a radically different thing. I understand now that seeing these kinds of distinctions is somehow beyond your ability, but there it is.

[IndigoErth]

By the time we were in the late 80's or 90's all that stuff felt like ancient history like you'd read in history books in school. It's hard to believe 9/11 is now over 25 years ago, to put it in perspective kids of today are reading that in their "history books."

Yeah, you figure... the Vietnam war had ended in 1975, so 25 years later was, erm, 2000. So next Sept. we'll be that same distance of time from 9/11. Kinda wild.

[sdp]

No it's not. She came on a fiancee visa. She got married on it. After 2 years of staying married on a fiancee visa you're a permanent resident. That'a the way this works. And I was born after like 5 years of them being married anyway. Then, around 1990 she got her citizenship not because she had to, but because she wanted to.



Coming here completely illegally or even overstaying a visa and having a kid here is a radically different thing. I understand now that seeing these kinds of distinctions is somehow beyond your ability, but there it is.
nICE but..https://c.tenor.com/MzbiZMxBrXQAAAAC/tenor.gif

[Coola Yagami]

No it's not. She came on a fiancee visa. She got married on it. After 2 years of staying married on a fiancee visa you're a permanent resident. That'a the way this works. And I was born after like 5 years of them being married anyway. Then, around 1990 she got her citizenship not because she had to, but because she wanted to.



Coming here completely illegally or even overstaying a visa and having a kid here is a radically different thing. I understand now that seeing these kinds of distinctions is somehow beyond your ability, but there it is.

The bigger issue is that those kinds of distinctions are beyond Trump's ability and the ICE agents just don't care to make it.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

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ICEe what you did there!

[CyberCubed]

Tbh I wonder how many of those videos of ICE agents dragging people out on the streets and into paddy wagons are real, and how much is staged. While there's no doubt in my mind it IS happening, but I wonder how common it is. We're reading stories of ICE bursting into public schools and abducting children right out of their classes, even arresting teachers (!) because the kids are undocumented.

Then we see the videos online of ICE raiding houses and grabbing an entire family, while throwing tear gas and onlookers or protestors in the crowds. While I know this is very real, sometimes I wonder how much of it is.

I live in New York so obviously there are hispanics EVERYWHERE here, and I've never seen it in broad daylight.

[Mayhem]

Andrew isn’t an anchor baby because his dad was a citizen at the time of birth. He’s in exactly the same situation as Trump actually, his mother also wasn’t a US citizen when he was born.

Speaking of Trump… they are keeping it quiet obviously, but increasingly believing based on evidence that he’s getting monthly infusions to slow his Alzheimer’s (hence the periodic bruising on his right hand) which is what the second recent yearly medical may also have been for, to check how well the treatment was working. Aside from having a stroke, the adult diapers, the leg attached urinary bag, the now labelling parts of the White House so Trump knows where he is, the standing in silence when that staffer had a medical issue (and RFK jr ****ed off stage), falling asleep for long periods…

If Maga tore into the Dems for hiding Biden’s decline (with good reason), then Maga are hiding Trump’s decline and turning the dials up to 11 in the process… there’s a decent chance he will die in office.

[Andrew NDB]

If Maga tore into the Dems for hiding Biden’s decline (with good reason), then Maga are hiding Trump’s decline and turning the dials up to 11 in the process… there’s a decent chance he will die in office.

I mean, you guys can always hope. And no doubt, he's OLD. Anything can happen anytime, you're not wrong on that front. He's an old guy probably dealing with old guy stuff that we'll never know about. But he gets in front of a camera and he's 600% more engaged than Biden. And he's talking to the press nonstop. Within that, there's many flubs and weirdness. But that's as opposed to Biden just hiding and only talking to the press in super prepared engagements once a week, vs. like 200 times a day, everywhere (with Trump).

Now, I've been clear on here. Trump was NOT my pick for president. I think we're getting way too old in these ways for picks. You can smack me over the head about it all you want, but I think DeSANTIMONIOUS would have been the guy.

[ToTheNines]

I mean, you guys can always hope. And no doubt, he's OLD. Anything can happen anytime, you're not wrong on that front. He's an old guy probably dealing with old guy stuff that we'll never know about. But he gets in front of a camera and he's 600% more engaged than Biden. And he's talking to the press nonstop. Within that, there's many flubs and weirdness. But that's as opposed to Biden just hiding and only talking to the press in super prepared engagements once a week, vs. like 200 times a day, everywhere (with Trump).

He had a STUTTER you bastard!


Now, I've been clear on here. Trump was NOT my pick for president. I think we're getting way too old in these ways for picks. You can smack me over the head about it all you want, but I think DeSANTIMONIOUS would have been the guy.

Too short!

[Mayhem]

The problem is, becoming increasingly evident to me that GoP used Trump as a focal point to get back into power, but since he was sworn in, everyone else has been running the show (Miller etc) and Trump has been led to believe he’s doing “work” and “tweeting” what he’s told to said, without full understanding of what he’s actually doing. So Trump’s death would not actually change the direction the US is going, he was there to allow them to start enacting Project 2025. Vance takes over and nothing is different.

They know as soon as Trump snuffs it, that’s part of their voter base gone, and are working to now not give up power once that happens. Keeping him alive long enough to get past the midterms so Vance can try for ten years in power.

[ToTheNines]

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[Prowler]

By the time we were in the late 80's or 90's all that stuff felt like ancient history like you'd read in history books in school. It's hard to believe 9/11 is now over 25 years ago, to put it in perspective kids of today are reading that in their "history books."

I was born in 1990 and will be turning 35 in 5 days, in fact. The Berlin Wall always felt like old history to me as did the Cold War. And both of those fell/ended only less than a year or so before I was born.

I still feel like a lot of Americans and even some Northern and Westerns Europeans still have this bleak image of European countries that lie to the east of Germany. But no, it's not 1989 anymore. Countries like Slovenia, Estonia and Czechia are highly developed nations nowadays and Poland has been one of the highest growing economies and one of the countries that has been improving it's standard of living the most in the world since 1989.

I visited both Poland and Czechia last year. They're very nice, clean and safe countries. Certainly cleaner and safer than some major British and French cities, nowadays, and France and the UK are two European countries with lots of "glamour" among non-Europeans.

[CyberCubed]

That is true, you saw people say that when the Ukraine/Russia war first started back in 2022. People thought Ukraine was this uncivilized tiny country with no technology with people living as if it was still 1950 or something, and then they sat there wondering why Russia wasn't able to take it over easily and why it's still going 3 years straight.

There are people out there who still think China is like it was in the 1920's, even though it's now a metropolis empire!

[sdp]

Yeah New generations don't understand 9/11 or even the 2008 financial crisis, hell i was too young to understand either event fully until years later despite being alive in them. I always think people born after see it like I saw any event before the 90s, ancient history as old as the pyramids. Even stuff like 80s movies to me it felt like they were from ancient times. Kids today see stuff from the 90s like I saw stuff from the 70s, just another uncivilized world full of old people who thought they were young once but they were grandpas even then.

I personally get a long very well with Gen Z now that they're adults. Being tech savvy and on the internet since I was a little kid, we share many things in common. we talk through internet lingo, we have no attention spans, we don't care about hard work, we just tend to enjoy life and not worry. I always felt I needed to dumb down what I was talking about with millenials and even worse with older generations since they didn't understand how fast the world move thanks to the internet, and I dont need to do that anymore. It's refreshing.

I'm honestly suprrised when I see other techsavvy older millenials who complain about zoomers, I would think they'd be able to relate better like I can. but all they can do is talk about how it was better "in the old days" like all older boomer generations do.

[Prowler]

Anyway, apparently Americans have been getting ICE ads on Twitch lately. I wonder what ICE ads are like. Do they not have enough people or something? What is their criteria, I wonder. Sounds funny. :lol:

[IMJ]

I was house hunting and working for a For-Profit college during the Financial crisis period. AND that was during a window of time where Obama was ransacking financial aid and lending for students at for-profits. :lol:

It was like a 1,2,3 whammy of meta-concerns...

[Coola Yagami]

Anyway, apparently Americans have been getting ICE ads on Twitch lately. I wonder what ICE ads are like. Do they not have enough people or something? What is their criteria, I wonder. Sounds funny. :lol:

Think of those old Join the Army ads about how good it is for you, fight for your country and all that jazz, but for ICE instead. Assuming you seen those old army ads, I know you're not in America.

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder what ICE ads are like. Do they not have enough people or something?

I don't think they're hurting for members but they're always expanding operations. It's not for everybody, but definitely enough of the country was pretty frustrated about the open border policy of Biden that people are wanting to join to now "do their part."

[Coola Yagami]

I don't think they're hurting for members but they're always expanding operations. It's not for everybody, but definitely enough of the country was pretty frustrated about the open border policy of Biden that people are wanting to join to now "do their part."

That and pretty much getting paid and getting benefits for getting to be a racist asshole towards Hispanics. It's a win-win for them.

[Andrew NDB]

That and pretty much getting paid and getting benefits for getting to be a racist asshole towards Hispanics. It's a win-win for them.

You realize a ton of ICE against (and Border Patrol) ARE Hispanics, right? Since being bilingual is almost a must for these things. If they take the masks off you'd see like over half are all Mexicans.

[Coola Yagami]

You realize a ton of ICE against (and Border Patrol) ARE Hispanics, right? Since being bilingual is almost a must for these things. If they take the masks off you'd see like over half are all Mexicans.

Not too many Hispanic Proud Boys out there. Also being racist towards your own race is a thing.

[sdp]

Most Latinos are very racist against their own kind, it doesn't surprise me to see Andrew take his stance. The worst enemy of a Latino is a Latino.
Their culture is "I made it so screw the rest".

[Coola Yagami]

Most Latinos are very racist against their own kind, it doesn't surprise me to see Andrew take his stance. The worst enemy of a Latino is a Latino.
Their culture is "I made it so screw the rest".

That is true, having met some with that mindset, which is a ****ing shame. But I kinda feel that sense of 'As long as I got mine, **** everyone else' seems to be a broad American mentality regardless of race. Hence a certain someone winning election twice. Most of his crew thought voting for him would literally be 'getting theirs' while 'screwing the rest'.

[CyberCubed]

I mean Latinos come from like 15 different countries, I don't know why people group them all together. Don't Puerto Ricans and Colombians have like a rivalry spanning hundreds of years or something? That's why you always see the hispanic rival gangs shooting each other up. And then Mexicans have the whole drug cartel trade and different culture from the rest of South America. I also hear Venezuelan's and their neighbors don't get along. Then there's the Nicaragua revolution and Chile let alone Argentina. Then there's Cuba as well. Also does Brazil count as Latinos?

When you're grouping like 15 different countries of people all together, of course they're not all the same. I think people seriously forget how many different countries are in South America.

[Coola Yagami]

I mean Latinos come from like 15 different countries, I don't know why people group them all together. Don't Puerto Ricans and Colombians have like a rivalry spanning hundreds of years or something? That's why you always see the hispanic rival gangs shooting each other up. And then Mexicans have the whole drug cartel trade and different culture from the rest of South America. I also hear Venezuelan's and their neighbors don't get along. Then there's the Nicaragua revolution and Chile let alone Argentina. Then there's Cuba as well. Also does Brazil count as Latinos?

When you're grouping like 15 different countries of people all together, of course they're not all the same. I think people seriously forget how many different countries are in South America.

I don't know about Columbians and whatnot but I remember back in my high school days there was bad blood between the Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. I never get involved in that nonsense back then and I'm not up to date if that's still how things are nowadays.

[IndigoErth]

Most of his crew thought voting for him would literally be 'getting theirs' while 'screwing the rest'.
They seem to have missed the part where, in his book, they too are "the rest."

[ToTheNines]

I don't know about Columbians and whatnot but I remember back in my high school days there was bad blood between the Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. I never get involved in that nonsense back then and I'm not up to date if that's still how things are nowadays.

Oh, absolutely. In my neighborhood growing up Mexicans and Puerto Ricans definitely hated each other. Also Laotians and Filipinos always had beef. And black Americans hate Africans lol.

[Autbot_Benz]

Think of those old Join the Army ads about how good it is for you, fight for your country and all that jazz, but for ICE instead. Assuming you seen those old army ads, I know you're not in America.

Thankfully Tbs and TNT finally read the room those ads don’t air during AEW anymore

[IMJ]

Imagine Coola's cognitive dissonance when he hears about the ICE Agent who just got arrested (on camera) in Oak Brook, IL for DUI after crashing his car into a tree.

"ICE Agent got a DUI?!? - YES YES!" he fist pumps

ICE Agent was Hispanic. "Wait... Latino... ICE... what? Huh?"

Drunk Mexican ICE Agent gets DUI on the job. "confusion.... confusion>" Coola just shuts off like C3-PO in confusion - "it must be the inter-racial racism" is all he can comprehend about the situation.

Meanwhile IMJ the poster child for "midwest American guy" with Irish heritage who clearly sees that liberals are insane, life-angry unhinged creatures; discusses this and laughs about it in irony with his straight-up Mexican woman and her family while sitting on the second-floor deck of a two-flat in Chicago backyard while drinking Modelo and Killians Irish Red.

[Coola Yagami]

Imagine Coola's cognitive dissonance when he hears about the ICE Agent who just got arrested (on camera) in Oak Brook, IL for DUI after crashing his car into a tree.

"ICE Agent got a DUI?!? - YES YES!" he fist pumps

ICE Agent was Hispanic. "Wait... Latino... ICE... what? Huh?"

Drunk Mexican ICE Agent gets DUI on the job. "confusion.... confusion>" Coola just shuts off like C3-PO in confusion - "it must be the inter-racial racism" is all he can comprehend about the situation.

Meanwhile IMJ the poster child for "midwest American guy" with Irish heritage who clearly sees that liberals are insane, life-angry unhinged creatures; discusses this and laughs about it in irony with his straight-up Mexican woman and her family while sitting on the second-floor deck of a two-flat in Chicago backyard while drinking Modelo and Killians Irish Red.

Don't matter his race, as along as he got taken in with a DUI like anybody else. One less asshole.

I'm sure it so happens he gets locked up alongside some Hispanic inmates, they'd have a few words for him.

[Barkworm]

Meanwhile IMJ the poster child for "midwest American guy" with Irish heritage who clearly sees that liberals are insane, life-angry unhinged creatures; discusses this and laughs about it in irony with his straight-up Mexican woman and her family while sitting on the second-floor deck of a two-flat in Chicago backyard while drinking Modelo and Killians Irish Red.

I like jacking off as much as the next guy but in your case it seems slightly unhealthy.

[Prowler]

Think of those old Join the Army ads about how good it is for you, fight for your country and all that jazz, but for ICE instead. Assuming you seen those old army ads, I know you're not in America.
Wait, those are real? It wasn't just that one Simpsons episode? :lol:

That and pretty much getting paid and getting benefits for getting to be a racist asshole towards Hispanics. It's a win-win for them.


That is true, having met some with that mindset, which is a ****ing shame. But I kinda feel that sense of 'As long as I got mine, **** everyone else' seems to be a broad American mentality regardless of race. Hence a certain someone winning election twice. Most of his crew thought voting for him would literally be 'getting theirs' while 'screwing the rest'.

Unrelated but a somewhat similar case I can think of is Brazilian immigrants in Portugal joining and voting for the far-right parties that are against immigration from places that include... Brazil :lol::lol::lol: Hilarious. Portuguese far-right nationalists absolutely despise Brazilian immigrants and consider them loud, uncivilised and their women to be prostitutes.

Oh, absolutely. In my neighborhood growing up Mexicans and Puerto Ricans definitely hated each other. Also Laotians and Filipinos always had beef. And black Americans hate Africans lol.


Not exactly similar, but here in Portugal, in low income areas Gypsies and Cape Verdeans have been hating each other for like 40 years or so. People are always going on about how Europeans hate Gypsies but here's an example of black and black-ish people who can trace their roots to the African country of Cabo Verde hating Gypsies even more strongly in my country. And Gypsies hate their guts as well, of course :lol:

As for your point, well not all skin folk are kin folk. That seems to be more of a New World thing. In Europe you don't really see or hear other Europeans stop hating on the French because it suddenly dawns on them "wait, they're White too, why ar we hating on them?!" :lol:. And no, Europeans don't consider White Americans one of their own. We laugh at Americans who claim to be Irish, German, Italian, etc. because "my great great grandpa was born in Cork/Köln/Napoli!"

[CyberCubed]

Naturalized U.S. citizens are now in danger of being deported:

https://apnews.com/article/naturalized-citizens-immigration-fears-116b8bb3dd4444abf4bdcbc266bed48c

*pray for Coola*

[Coola Yagami]

Naturalized U.S. citizens are now in danger of being deported:

https://apnews.com/article/naturalized-citizens-immigration-fears-116b8bb3dd4444abf4bdcbc266bed48c

*pray for Coola*

Born in Chicago m'dude. You keep forgetting.

But we knew ICE doesn't care if they're naturalized or not. All they see is brown.

[Mayhem]

https://i.ibb.co/5gDsGFdr/IMG-3873.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

All they see is brown.

But again, most of ICE are brown. By design. And these aren't like people who are being forced into action. These are people who jump at the job. Undoubtedly Latinos who are disgusted -- like me -- by people trying to cheat the system when we and our mothers and grandmothers all did it right. You don't get a cheat code for successfully staying here long enough without being caught. This has NEVER been the way it was supposed to work.

[Mayhem]

There are more Asians in the US than Latinos.

[Andrew NDB]

There are more Asians in the US than Latinos.

We don't speak about the Asians. They all come legally and test too high in schools and end up too successful. Which is why they end up the odd man out in universities. Never fits the narrative. But feel free to try, as a thought experiment!

[Mayhem]

I'm assuming the "asian" tag here means the likes of Indians/Pakistanis and those from China/Korea etc? I didn't see any split in the notation of the statistics I was looking at. Which of the two do you mean here, or both?

[Coola Yagami]

But again, most of ICE are brown.

Racism and classism exists among brown folks, doncha know.

Yeah, they jump at the job alright. Pay and benefits for messing with people and taking out your racist rage on them? Sounds like a good deal for assholes like them.

[CyberCubed]

That's also why when "Black Lives Matter" was going on, there were black cops "on the other side" who were throwing tear gas and arresting their, "black brothers and sisters" who were on the riot side.

It's obvious the blacks or hispanics who "made it" don't care about "the other side," as people have stated above. You would think all the minorities would stick together, but it's obvious the well-off blacks and hispanics don't care about the rest of their race who are not so fortunate. You see this with Asians as well.

It's true what they say. The rich get rich and the poor get poorer. You just don't ever want to be on "the other side."

[Andrew NDB]

It's obvious the blacks or hispanics who "made it" don't care about "the other side,"

It's not about "caring" or "not caring"... there just isn't a lot of sympathy for Hispanics who snuck in illegally by Hispanics who came here legally. It's literally as simple as that. There's not some built-in solidarity just because they're the same skin color... that's stupid.