Hip-Hop?

[Spectre]

How many of you peeps here like rap? Anybody hate it? Let me know. I have a poll here too if you want to respond.

[Dane E5R]

Love it.

[Anarky]

i can't stand it. there are some exceptions. that's the punks who're rapping because they can't sing.

[Spectre]

Love it.

old skool or new school?

Who's your fav artist?

[Wingnut]

old school rap is ok,i like Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. Back then rap actually meant something and it took talent. Now its just completely stupid,anybody who can cuss and talk really fast can be a rapper.

[Taloniss]

Like some of it, some of it I hate.

Like = Dre, Eminem, Nas, Snoop, Canabis, Eyedea, Outkast

[JameO]

Hate it.

[Anarky]

hmmm, maybe we should open a punk/rock thread...

[JameO]

hmmm, maybe we should open a punk/rock thread...

Now that I can relate too.

[HorseTechie]

I like it. :D

And... I also like for this thread to remain civil, and not become a bash fest us Mods have to babysit and/or lock. :wink:

[Spectre]

I like it. :D

And... I also like for this thread to remain civil, and not become a bash fest us Mods have to babysit and/or lock. :wink:

Thank you so much.

Lets not get carried away with bashing other people's tastes in music.

I'm not going to do it.

[Massacre]

I like it.

I don't care much about most of the artists that came out after the 90's, though. The only rapper that to hit it big after the 90's that I like and can think of is Ludacris. He's the only new generation artist I can think of that I really like.

I mostly prefer stuff from Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, Tupac, and Busta Rhymes.

[Dane E5R]

Love it.

old skool or new school?

Who's your fav artist?

Both actually. Mystikals probably my favorite. I like Outkast a lot too.

[Spectre]

"THE MAN'S RIGHT CHEA"!!

Geez, I will always remember that song.

[Mondo J. Gecko]

I hate most of it.... but there are exceptions... I like some of outkast's songs... and I don't mind old skool rap.... but most rap is pure crap....

[cqb101]

As a whole, I don't really like it. There's some I like....Outkast, DMX, Dr. Dre...

[Albrecht]

old school rap is ok,i like Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. Back then rap actually meant something and it took talent. Now its just completely stupid,anybody who can cuss and talk really fast can be a rapper.

they dont even talk really fast any more do they?

[Reznorite420]

Here's my answer. (http://www.thetechnodrome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=240655&highlight=#240655)

Notice how they're only industrial and rock groups.

[Stone Ill]

I absolutely loathe Rap, Hip-Hop, and R&B.

I'm also not a fan Punk. It just plain sucks. Hell, it was meant to sound crappy.

[The Defibrillator]

Hey Ya- Outkast is the only hip-hop song I have ever liked. It's the best thing since the double stuffed oreo, homie.

I haven't really heard much old school so I can't say I hate everything else. But everything I have heard is...well....crap.

As for punk music, it's pretty good. I really like emo-influenced punk such as Yellowcard/Brand New/The Used/Lost Prophets, but I hate the whole punk style/look, with the spiky hair and checkered pants....I mean come on, it's just a stupid way to get attention methinks.

[That Matt Guy]

I like a few old groups like Public Enemy and N.W.A.

[Dane E5R]

Heh, talking fast while rhyming and sounding good takes tremendous talent if you ask me. Anyone ever hear of Tech N9ne?

[The Defibrillator]

I agree, it takes talent......but it doesn't sound good.

[WrestlingTurtlesFan4Life]

Well I completely hate it except for the vew songs of Rap Sean puts on like Beastie Boys and House of Pain. I can tolerate though, like if I'm at some place.....like my freakin' High School Prom all they played was rap. DJ wasn't taking requests so I couldn't do anything. I was gonna get him to play Bon Jovi. My mom is worse though. She told me if I ever put Rap on in my room I'd get thrown out of the house. You should have seen her at this CD store we were at once. We walk in and they play rap and she's like "If they play Who Let the dogs out, I'm running right out of here." I was waiting for that song but it never came up. lol. That song is OK. I keep making fun of it though, The other day I looked at Sean and I said "Who let the mice out? Squeak, squeak squeak." lol. My mom's an idiot.

[Mars-Chan]

The other day I looked at Sean and I said "Who let the mice out? Squeak, squeak squeak." lol.
:lol: :tlol: That's classic!!!

I really don't listen to rap all that much unless it's old school rap, like....Run DMC. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Outkast's "Hey Ya", but it's the old school stuff that gets me goin'. :D

[Raven]

I hate rap. sure it takes talent to speack fast, but rap is not signing, its just saying words really fast, so you cant understand them.

all rap sucks in my opipion.

[Reznorite420]

I hate rap. sure it takes talent to speack fast, but rap is not signing, its just saying words really fast, so you cant understand them.That's "freestyle" you're thinking of, which is a tad bit different. Lots of rap today actually goes pretty slow.all rap sucks in my opipion.And NTN thinks I'M bad?

[Dane E5R]

I hate rap. sure it takes talent to speack fast, but rap is not signing, its just saying words really fast, so you cant understand them.

all rap sucks in my opipion.

The vocalist of Cake doesn't sing either, and Cake is excellent. A lot of punk bands don't sing either (though I don't much care for punk.) Since when do people have to sing for it to be considered music? I don't remember Beethoven ever singing.. Or Bach.. Or Mozart. Or how 'bout techno and drum and bass? You don't have to like rap, but I hate it when people say it isn't music just because they arent singing.

[The Defibrillator]

Cake rules

[Savanti Romero]

I like a few old groups like Public Enemy and N.W.A.
NWA is bad! I love the song about police if you know what I'm saying. :wink: Not that I hate police but I like that song.
Dre remained good after NWA as well.

I have listened to Tech Nine before. Only because may friend loves it. If I remember right they are really fast right?

Red and Meth are good too.
I used to listen to rap all the time. Along with other stuff. But know I'm in college and have left a lot friends behind, so I left the rap with them. Now I listen to the radio more. I bought the Lord of the Rings trilogy music too, so I listen to that a lot. Just today I bought the old Green Day record. Man I spend too much on music.

[That Matt Guy]

its just saying words really fast, so you cant understand them.

And you can understand the mindless grunts of Mushroomhead?

I've heard a few songs of theirs...a cat getting stabbed to death makes a better sound than them.

[Stone Ill]

Yeah, really.. Those kind of bands are even less-barable to listen to than rap, in my opinion.

[Dinogrrl]

Like the genre in general, although there are some artists I don't like due to the messages in their songs.

For Western artists, Missy Elliott and Outkast are the top two for me, although Ludacris is also fun. 'Fix my Weave' is one of the best songs! :)

I've also started picking up Japanese and Korean Hip-Hop and R&B artists - these genres are very popular in the Asian region now. I've also listened to some cool African rap from a group called 'Gidgi Gidgi Maji Maji' (although my spelling may be wrong) on a radio show called Afropop Worldwide.

[Massacre]

its just saying words really fast, so you cant understand them.

And you can understand the mindless grunts of Mushroomhead?

Well, there are two vocalists in the band and only one of them has the growl-like voice. The other has a perfectly clear and great singing voice.

[WrestlingTurtlesFan4Life]

Well ya know what I hate worse than rap.........ELVIS!!!! I can't stand him and Sean LOVES him!! Ok, If Sean sings Elvis, I don't mind. When Sean does the Elvis dancing I love it......Watching Elvis do anything or sing makes me gag but I put up with it when Sean puts it on. He rarely puts Elvis on anyway. I'd rather listen to the most offensive Rap than listen to Elvis. My sister hates him too thank god. lol

[Savanti Romero]

"But why's the rum gone!?" :D

[R-iZZy]

Everyone is forgetting that this is if you like hip-hop... not RAP. Rap is but an element of hip-hop, as hip-hop is a culture, a way of life: from DJing, to rapping, cyphering, beatboxing, breakdancing, etc. I personally, grew up on hip-hop, that has been my way of life since birth. Rap is something that I have grown into since birth, and is something I'll always love, no matter how tainted rap can be through those damn commercial tracks (i.e., Cash Money). Any other artists, I can feel: Ludacris, Scarface, Outkast, Snop Dogg. The type of rap I've actually listened to intently is underground music and artists not known, Royce da 5'9'' being my favorite of all-time. There's a lot of great guys underground, but all that have gone mainstream either dropped average or garbage albums. The only person I can say would put up a great album in the mainstream market is Lloyd Bank$, Fabolous, and maybe a few select rappers that understand the concept of a "punchline". It's punchlines, meta's, and wordplay that I look for in rap songs now... the gangsta style put me to sleep a long time ago, and G-Unit is the only group I'll tolerate with the gun-toting concept, but only because their style is brought in a unique fashion from the rest.

Heh, talking fast while rhyming and sounding good takes tremendous talent if you ask me. Anyone ever hear of Tech N9ne?
Yeah, the guy is great in my opinion. I'm addicted to his newest single, "Imma Tell". Heh... it gets stuck in my head.


P.S. Punk rock sucks harder than............. well, I just want to throw "my opinion" out there. And Rez, LMAO. You're not kidding, I will respect major pain's opinion though. *twitches* It's the freedom to speak out... *twitches frantically* So I'll let this ILLOGICAL BS go on. *calms down* Just had to get that one off... :D

[R-iZZy]

I hate rap. sure it takes talent to speack fast, but rap is not signing, its just saying words really fast, so you cant understand them.

all rap sucks in my opipion.
Wow... maybe you're mistaking rap for Reggae or something, because not one word could even relate to what rap really is. I'm sorry, those weren't even opinions, those were just stereotypical words...... actually, I don't even think those are stereotypes of rap.

No, this is not a flame post, this is educating. Exactly what rap songs have you exactly heard to come to this conclusion that this is what exemplifies rap? You might want to research your hypothesis before actually claiming it as your conclusion, because not a bit of that I could call rap, not even in a nutshell.

[Raven]

I hate rap. sure it takes talent to speack fast, but rap is not signing, its just saying words really fast, so you cant understand them.

all rap sucks in my opipion.
Wow... maybe you're mistaking rap for Reggae or something, because not one word could even relate to what rap really is. I'm sorry, those weren't even opinions, those were just stereotypical words...... actually, I don't even think those are stereotypes of rap.

No, this is not a flame post, this is educating. Exactly what rap songs have you exactly heard to come to this conclusion that this is what exemplifies rap? You might want to research your hypothesis before actually claiming it as your conclusion, because not a bit of that I could call rap, not even in a nutshell.


but the thing I think counts most is I dont like rap, so well leave it at that.

[Stone Ill]

'Hip-Hop' isn't a way of life. Same with Punk.

[R-iZZy]

'Hip-Hop' isn't a way of life. Same with Punk.
What? Yes it is! Hip-Hop is a genre, rap is just an element of it. Hip-Hop consists of many things that is used in a certain lifestyle, so yes... it is a way of life!

[Spectre]

'Hip-Hop' isn't a way of life. Same with Punk.
What? Yes it is! Hip-Hop is a genre, rap is just an element of it. Hip-Hop consists of many things that is used in a certain lifestyle, so yes... it is a way of life!

Someone who actually understands hip-hop! Woo hoo!

[Raven]

hip hops just anther reason for guys to wear baggy pants that make them look like they **** there pants.........just like pop :x

[Anarky]

hip hops just anther reason for guys to wear baggy pants that make them look like they sh** there pants.........just like pop :x

i second that. man you obviously know most of switzerland's youth. you are in some kinda metal band, right? did they ever tell you that "you ain't got style, man"? as if i'd gove up my shredded cargos just for those dwarves...

[Raven]

hip hops just anther reason for guys to wear baggy pants that make them look like they sh** there pants.........just like pop :x

i second that. man you obviously know most of switzerland's youth. you are in some kinda metal band, right? did they ever tell you that "you ain't got style, man"? as if i'd gove up my shredded cargos just for those dwarves...

im not in a band any more, but I dont usally have to worry about the people that dress up in the hip hop seen, we get that more in the inner citys here.

[The Defibrillator]

The other day this dude walked up to me (I was wearing my little kid's new TMNT shirt) and he's like "dude, get some REAL clothes".... Of course the dude was like 64367 pounds so I was like, "ok."

True story.....and off topic....oh well......I hope ~Raph doesn't kill me.

[That Matt Guy]

Just because you listen to a type of music means you have to dress a certain way? :roll: Wait until you get out of highschool, bud. You'll see bulls*** like that doesn't matter.

[Massacre]

Just because you listen to a type of music means you have to dress a certain way? :roll:

If it was, I'd be screwed. I listen to almost all types of music. :sick:

[Krutch]

I thought rap and hip-hop were different genres? Similar, but different.

Anyways, for the most part, no, i really dislike rap. Nothing on the radio appeals to me these days. Only rap groups i like are Twiztid, Insane Clown Posse, and my favorite, Vanilla Ice. The man can flow.

Tech N9ne is talented big time, but I still prefer not to listen to him.

...Cept that one song...."Worst Enemy" i think. That was funny.

[The Defibrillator]

Just because you listen to a type of music means you have to dress a certain way? :roll: Wait until you get out of highschool, bud. You'll see bulls*** like that doesn't matter.

I'm not in highschool....

[That Matt Guy]

Just because you listen to a type of music means you have to dress a certain way? :roll: Wait until you get out of highschool, bud. You'll see bulls*** like that doesn't matter.

I'm not in highschool....

That was directed at Major Pain, not you.

[HorseTechie]

http://www.optimusrhyme.com/

:o

It's during this instances, that Hip Hop does scare me very much!




...wonders if there is also a band who has named their sake after the TMNT....

[R-iZZy]

'Hip-Hop' isn't a way of life. Same with Punk.
What? Yes it is! Hip-Hop is a genre, rap is just an element of it. Hip-Hop consists of many things that is used in a certain lifestyle, so yes... it is a way of life!

Someone who actually understands hip-hop! Woo hoo!
:D

hip hops just anther reason for guys to wear baggy pants that make them look like they sh** there pants.........just like pop :xAnd what about punk rockers? As if painting your face as clowns and painting blood gushing from your forehead is more of a reasonable style? Or maybe having spiked hair that you could possibly run a Michael Myers with is more of a suitable style than baggy jeans? Come on, you pretend that hip-hop is trashing today's society, when you've forgotten that even Punk has its own flaws. I understand that hip-hop can have negative influences on people, but you see... I'm open-minded enough to accept that. Punk is no different, and I don't think you should be praising it as much as you do, as if Satan created Rap and God created Punk.

[Spectre]

You know, hip-hop CAN be scary sometimes. A whole bunch of swear words and sexual references pretty much sums up what it is. (Which is crap!)

I sometimes listen to it, but I don't listen to it a lot. Yeah, a whole bunch of guys with baggy pants with their butts practically showing is gross enough. Also the giant chains with the crosses on them. What the heck is the point of wearing them?! They don't look cool.

And they suck at being Christians, too. Nobody should wear a cross, unless they are truly religious, but that's just my opinion.

[Albrecht]

u truly r a nincompoop punks dont wear make up goths do punks wear what they want when they want and yees hip hop is trashing society.

[That Matt Guy]

That made no sense.

[Albrecht]

i was talking to nija turlte nincompoop.

[Raven]

hip hops just anther reason for guys to wear baggy pants that make them look like they sh** there pants.........just like pop :xAnd what about punk rockers? As if painting your face as clowns and painting blood gushing from your forehead is more of a reasonable style? Or maybe having spiked hair that you could possibly run a Michael Myers with is more of a suitable style than baggy jeans? Come on, you pretend that hip-hop is trashing today's society, when you've forgotten that even Punk has its own flaws. I understand that hip-hop can have negative influences on people, but you see... I'm open-minded enough to accept that. Punk is no different, and I don't think you should be praising it as much as you do, as if Satan created Rap and God created Punk.

garet is right punkers and goths are competly different, its not punks that dresses in all black and were the face paint its the goths.
and when im talking about baggy pants im talking not only about rap but all styles.
and yes I agree punk has its flaws, its not perfect. and I do like a few hip hop songs, but thats only out kasts new song. I think they did a good job on it.and I dont know of many people that dress up with blood gushing from there head.
but who said I was prasing it, I just happen to like rock more than rap.
I use to like rap, but I got tired of it, because it all sounded the same after a while, but thats what I felt.
Im trying to say stop listening to hip hop, im just saying it could be better.

[Dane E5R]

u truly r a nincompoop punks dont wear make up goths do punks wear what they want when they want and yees hip hop is trashing society.

Stop talking, please. Decyphering through your sentences gives me a headache.
And some punks do wear black make-up and eyeliner, with their spikey hair and checkered pants and clothes that don't match. Hip-Hop isn't "trashing society" any more than any other style of music.

[Massacre]

The bickering in this thread is amusing. It really is.

[The Defibrillator]

Does anyone else just hate this stereotyping? "I'm punk, he's hip-hop, she's emo, and she's goth" What??!? It's like we have different breeds of coolness now..... It's all stupid. If you feel like wearing ugly black makeup, feel free....I just hate the people who wear shirts that label their type of coolness (ie, the girls who wear the shirts that say GOTH on them, just in case anyone mistakes them for a punk, God forbid)

[R-iZZy]

u truly r a nincompoop punks dont wear make up goths do punks wear what they want when they want and yees hip hop is trashing society.
Number one: you're lying. I have seen plenty do it, and not claim to be goths. Plus, just looking at Mudvayne, I think I proved my point (and read a little closer, I didn't say make-up, I said clown paint)

Number two: never call me a nincompoop in an insulting fashion when chickenscratch seems to be more legible than your own posts.

Number three: who the heck are you???


garet is right punkers and goths are competly different, its not punks that dresses in all black and were the face paint its the goths.
and when im talking about baggy pants im talking not only about rap but all styles.
and yes I agree punk has its flaws, its not perfect. and I do like a few hip hop songs, but thats only out kasts new song. I think they did a good job on it.and I dont know of many people that dress up with blood gushing from there head.
but who said I was prasing it, I just happen to like rock more than rap.
I use to like rap, but I got tired of it, because it all sounded the same after a while, but thats what I felt.
Im trying to say stop listening to hip hop, im just saying it could be better.
Yes, they are completely different cliques and groups, but that does not mean that their fashion is different from the other. I have seen both cliques appear in just about the same attire and fashion, and there is no denying what my eyes see on a daily basis at school.

And you are practically praising Punk over Rap. I don't mind you doing that, but it's when you make the message clear the first time, then repeat it in the face of hip-hop followers maybe five extra times. And no, when you say "rap sucks", that does not mean it could be better. You're practically saying hip-hop should just die while it is still hanging on by a thread. You spit on the works of REAL artists, such as Nas or Jay-Z, Royce da 5'9''; people that tell stories through their songs. You place that stereotype you have of rap and you stamp each and every artist in the genre without even getting to know them. You found that Outkast had good songs, so why just stop there? I'm sure if you found more artists, you'd find that over 50% of artists are actually lyrically gifted (and this includes underground artists). I'm not trying to be a walking billboard for hip-hop, but I am at least trying to let you understand that you're judging hip-hop on what sells, and that is something we can't control. Trust me, if it were my decision... the rap you see today would not be selling a lot, it's all about image... and you believe that image is what represents rap; but contrary to your [assumed] beliefs, real artists are based on the lyrical content they rap about, the flow, their concept, their scheme, their creativity, and their ability to move crowds without having to have some party beat to hype it more than it is. Those artists exist, and you spat on their work because you decided that they are the same as other artists.

I don't want to come off as the bad guy here, but if there are views that I believe shouldn't be accepted as valid and truthful, then I'll have a say. I can understand that you're saying rap could be better, but it's actually the preference of the consumers that could use improvement, not rap in general.


The bickering in this thread is amusing. It really is.
Heh... which is why I responded.

[cqb101]

That made no sense.

Of course it didn't make any sense, it's Garey.

[Spectre]

It's almost like you know him.

[PizzaPower]

we know every body here that has been here a while or in the NTML.

[Spectre]

we know every body here that has been here a while or in the NTML.

What's the NTML?

[Stone Ill]

Ninja Turtles Mailing List, I think.

[The Stryker]

Punk makes absolutely no sense to me

Rap is good with a few exceptions I.E G-unit and that milkshake girl

and when will some people learn that you are all human beings? just because you're goth,punk a hip-hopper or a gangsta ass mutha doesn't mean you gotta be treated like a lower life form

and no offense to the goths and punks but youze started with this

we were all happy with the clicks we had ("Popular,Not,Geeks,Nerds,Dorks) buuuuuuut since some choose a different lifestyle and force it on everyone else we now have different breeds of people everywhere

its all confusing but jeezus im tired of all the labeling

sad thing is....now pirate ****ing pirate groups are popping up everywhere

THANK YOU JOHNNY DEPP, you should have stayed in your little bed crevace from Nightmare 1!!

GWAHHH!!!!! G-GAAAAH!!!!

*runs away knowing full well he made no sense whatsoever*

[Massacre]

Pirates? There are people acting/dressing/whatever like pirates now?

[R-iZZy]

Punk makes absolutely no sense to me

Rap is good with a few exceptions I.E G-unit and that milkshake girl

and when will some people learn that you are all human beings? just because you're goth,punk a hip-hopper or a gangsta ass mutha doesn't mean you gotta be treated like a lower life form

and no offense to the goths and punks but youze started with this

we were all happy with the clicks we had ("Popular,Not,Geeks,Nerds,Dorks) buuuuuuut since some choose a different lifestyle and force it on everyone else we now have different breeds of people everywhere

its all confusing but jeezus im tired of all the labeling

sad thing is....now pirate f*** pirate groups are popping up everywhere

THANK YOU JOHNNY DEPP, you should have stayed in your little bed crevace from Nightmare 1!!

GWAHHH!!!!! G-GAAAAH!!!!

*runs away knowing full well he made no sense whatsoever* :blanksta: