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Savanti Romero
01-21-2004, 08:23 PM
Who else is in love with the LOTR? I started with the movies and now I'm on the books and they are really good. I hope this isn't an old topic.

Sorry about the "their" on the poll. Correction-"they're" :)

Mod Edit:
Fixed it for ya, dude :)
GK

EZweasel
01-21-2004, 08:26 PM
i dont realy care much for them. just not that interesting, but everyone likes different things.

Savanti Romero
01-21-2004, 08:28 PM
Not trying to be mean, but I just wanted to know what you don't like about them? :-? :)

EZweasel
01-21-2004, 08:36 PM
Not trying to be mean, but I just wanted to know what you don't like about them? :-? :)

well at first i thought they where decent movies. nothing great, but ok. i could watch them maybe one time and it would all be good. but now i have gotten so tired of hearing all my friends talking about how great the movies are and me not being able to understand how they could feel that way. i mean ive seen all three and thought they all lacked. i guess they where just sorta boring. ROTK had so many parts where i just felt embaressed to be there...like aragorns singing and the froto/pipin slumber party..i also didnt like how gollum went out. and two tower just seemed too drawn out. nothing there cept a huge battle secene. the only one i can say i actually liked pretty good would be the first one (FOTR)...its just me though it seems. everyone else loves these movies..

Savanti Romero
01-21-2004, 08:40 PM
To tell the truth, you are the first one I've met who does'nt like them. That's ok, I don't hold grudges (except for animal torturers, because I am an animal.) I do agree that the first one is the best, and then the third, then the second. But they are all exceptionally good in my opinion.

The Defibrillator
01-21-2004, 08:48 PM
DO I LOVE LORD OF THE RINGS? DO I LOVE LORD OF THE RINGS?

HA!





Yes in fact I do. I just finished reading LotR for my 3rd time.

The movies are great, the books are better. I was a bit disappointed in the Two Towers (movie that is), but FotR and RotK were both AMAZING.

Now I'm reading the Silmarillion, which is the history of Middle Earth and the elves and stuff. It's fantastic so far.

Savanti Romero
01-21-2004, 08:57 PM
Yea, I bought that too (but am far from getting to it with college reading and all). I also bought the Atlas of Middle Earth. This was made before the movies and has tons of maps from the First Age thru the Third Age and follows with all the different Middle Earth books.

Dontebell
01-21-2004, 09:04 PM
i didn't like LOTR at first,but when i saw the two towers it got much better.

Savanti Romero
01-21-2004, 09:08 PM
You didn't like the Fellowship? Now I've heard everything! :D :wink:

Dontebell
01-21-2004, 09:30 PM
part one was okay,but it was a little boring and there wern't enough action.

WrestlingTurtlesFan4Life
01-21-2004, 11:49 PM
I never read the books. I saw previews on TV and just got confused. Sean one day just said to me "Lets go see Lord of the Rings." I figured "What the shell, ok." Saw that and loved it from the start!!!! I especially loved Aragorn and Legolas. I just got my sister into it recently. I got the FOTR and Two Towers extended editions on DVD and got her to watch them. She almost cried when she thought Gandalf was dead. She's 10 years older than me and into wizards. She was very happy once she saw Two Towers and Gandalf was alive. So we saw the last one a week after it came out. I'm kinda confused over the ending though. It's like they wanted YOU to choose which end was better. They had like 5 spots where it should have ended.

I loved Gollum in the second one but in the third one he just ended up pi$$ing me off. heh.

ThirdMarioBro
01-22-2004, 12:41 AM
The changes were improvments. Love all three. Nuff said. :D

damnhooligan
01-22-2004, 06:17 AM
I waited to see the movies until I could snag both FOTR and TTT on DVD, then pop out to see ROTK. I desperately avoided all hype, interviews, reviews and whatnot for about two years. A Herculean task, indeed.

Though there are obvious discrepancies (My biggest concerns: Glorfindel? Bombadil? Umm, Haldir? Éomer?), I though the movies were wonderfully epic. The story, actors, CGI, set design and costume design all came together seemlessly, I believe. I'm now an BIG Richard Taylor fan. Huzzah!

No book-to-film adaptation is ever right on the money. Had Jackson shot the movie page-by-page, I imagine they would still be shooting the movie to this day! All in all, great film(s).

That Matt Guy
01-22-2004, 06:41 AM
I've never seen the movies or read the books. Those movies must be pretty good, seeing the way people go ape s*** for them and all.

GK Punk
01-22-2004, 06:45 AM
The movies were really good I thought. The casting couldn't have been better imo. although I loved those films (I went to the early Midnight showing to all 3 of them) I don't see the big deal to be honest. If I see one more "Crossover" fic with LOTR I am killing a tomato.
(The sailor moon/lotr webcomic makes me sick)

Voltron
01-22-2004, 09:23 AM
I've never seen the movies or read the books. Those movies must be pretty good, seeing the way people go ape s*** for them and all.

I figured you'd have been the first in line, seeing how everyone argues that its based off of WWII.

That Matt Guy
01-22-2004, 09:26 AM
Well, people argue that the Empire on Star Wars was based on the Third Reich, but you don't see me camping out for the new movie dressed as the Emperor, do you? Or do you!?

Voltron
01-22-2004, 09:28 AM
I see you as more of a Jar Jar Binks...

or being a juggernaut of terror as you are, I figure you'd be an Ewok or Jawa.

That Matt Guy
01-22-2004, 09:52 AM
I see myself as that thing that followed Lando around on Cloud City.

Voltron
01-22-2004, 09:55 AM
What thing, the cyborg? I'd would have rather have just been Lando. I know he was mining Schlitz in Cloud City.

That Matt Guy
01-22-2004, 09:58 AM
But Lando's smile wasn't as pretty as the cyborgs.

Voltron
01-22-2004, 10:00 AM
I would be in it for the the little dwarves that threw 3PO out, thats all.

cqb101
01-22-2004, 10:08 AM
Do I like LOTR? What kinda question is that! I LOVE LOTR! Almost as much as I love TMNT. Hopefully I'll be ordering a set of replica white knives soon. *gets all excited*

WrestlingTurtlesFan4Life
01-22-2004, 10:10 AM
Anybody ever watch Xena: Warrior Princess or Hercules: The Legendary Journeys? I'm only asking because A few actors from the Lord of the Rings were from those 2 shows and made it more enjoyable to watch.

Eomer: Played Ceaser on both shows. Had a thing for Xena

A guy I don't know his name but the episode sticks in my head. It's the episode of Xena where Callisto first appeared and she made everyone think it was Xena that killed his some and he kept going after her only to be tied up to a tree. lol

There might be more but I'm not sure. Thats cool though. Right?

HorseTechie
01-22-2004, 11:34 AM
I'm one of the few who had seen the movies first before reading the LotR triology. Makes for an interesting experience that way! :D

But.. while I hadn't read the LotR, I was reasonably famialr with Tolkien's work. I have read the Hobbit in elementary school, and have seen the animated film/heard the BBC radio play of it too. Yes... very familar with Bilbo and Hobbits. Prolly explains why the Hobbits in LotR are also my fav characters (with Aragorn, Eowyn and Shadowfax as the seconds)

damnhooligan
01-22-2004, 04:39 PM
A guy I don't know his name but the episode sticks in my head. It's the episode of Xena where Callisto first appeared and she made everyone think it was Xena that killed his some and he kept going after her only to be tied up to a tree. lol

I'm not exactly sure who that was, but Craig Parker (Haldir), Marton Csokas (Celeborn) and a whole slew of extras/stunt men/minor roles from the films were on Xena or Hercules periodically. No Bruce Campbell though. A boomstick would have come in damn handy.

Savanti Romero
01-22-2004, 04:57 PM
I don't see what the big deal is with Eowyn

Anarky
01-22-2004, 05:52 PM
I don't really like LOTR. Neither the books nor the films

First , I must say that i really don't like fantasy stuff.

Books: too damn long, everything is described waay to detailed. nothing's really left to imagination

Films: again, too long. Three and a half hours simply can't be it. For me, a guy who can't sit still for more than 10 minutes, it was hell. I only did it for a girl :D

The Defibrillator
01-23-2004, 12:33 AM
I don't see what the big deal is with Eowyn

Not only is Miranda Otto hot, but her character kicked the Witch-King's butt.

Though there are obvious discrepancies (My biggest concerns: Glorfindel? Bombadil? Umm, Haldir? Éomer?), I though the movies were wonderfully epic. The story, actors, CGI, set design and costume design all came together seemlessly, I believe. I'm now an BIG Richard Taylor fan. Huzzah!

My biggest nitpick with the movies, is ARWEN. LIV TYLER SUCKS. SHE STOLE GLORFINDEL! Not only that but she uses a whole breath to speak each word....it's quite annoying.

What about Denethor? In the movies they make it seem like he's just a jerk, but in the books he's actually being influenced by Sauron through a palantiri. Oh well....

As for special effects...they were all great except for when in RotK Theoden and Dernhelm(Eowyn) are riding on horseback in Pelennor Fields. They just put CGI orcs in the horses' way, and make them get pushed out of the way, but the horses don't react at all so it looks stupid. But other than that....the fx were great.

*slaps self* Stop blabbering!

HorseTechie
01-23-2004, 11:51 AM
I don't see what the big deal is with Eowyn

Not only is Miranda Otto hot, but her character kicked the Witch-King's butt.

Though there are obvious discrepancies (My biggest concerns: Glorfindel? Bombadil? Umm, Haldir? Éomer?), I though the movies were wonderfully epic. The story, actors, CGI, set design and costume design all came together seemlessly, I believe. I'm now an BIG Richard Taylor fan. Huzzah!

My biggest nitpick with the movies, is ARWEN. LIV TYLER SUCKS. SHE STOLE GLORFINDEL! Not only that but she uses a whole breath to speak each word....it's quite annoying.
That's my reason for liking Eowyn too. She seemed more believable as a character. Liv Tyler/Arwen trotally drives me nuts. Bleah. What was Aragorn thinking? :P


As for special effects...they were all great except for when in RotK Theoden and Dernhelm(Eowyn) are riding on horseback in Pelennor Fields. They just put CGI orcs in the horses' way, and make them get pushed out of the way, but the horses don't react at all so it looks stupid. But other than that....the fx were great.
I noticed that too. Just doesn't have that same effect of weapons/flesh going against stuffed dummies (like in Braveheart), but... it did seem a little better than the battle at Helm's deep. It was even more obvious how much the real actors were going through the CGI ones on the castle bridge.

Savanti Romero
01-23-2004, 02:53 PM
What made me not like Eowyn was she got all this cheering, when non of the tons of male characters got half that much.

Voltron
01-23-2004, 03:04 PM
What made me not like Eowyn was she got all this cheering, when non of the tons of male characters got half that much.

Yeah, but she did what no male character could. She slayed the Witch King. She is well liked because she is strong. It's not often that you see a woman character to this. I felt it was a nice departure from the horribly cliche'd "Damsil in Distress" crap you usually see.

Savanti Romero
01-23-2004, 03:07 PM
Couldn't have done it without Pippin. (Not in book I already know.) Not to mention a lot of male characters who "did things no one else could do" i. e. Frodo, didn't get half the applause from the audience.

EZweasel
01-23-2004, 04:06 PM
id have to say theabsolute best part about these movies is the elf girl. she is like the hottest girl i have ever seen in my life and she is just awsum. i am not sure of her name but i think it was liv tyler who played her.

The Defibrillator
01-24-2004, 01:12 AM
id have to say theabsolute best part about these movies is the elf girl. she is like the hottest girl i have ever seen in my life and she is just awsum. i am not sure of her name but i think it was liv tyler who played her.

That's Arwen Evenstar.

Just to clear up a common misonception, Eowyn (in the books anyway) being a woman was NOT the reason that she was able to slay the Witch-King. It was Merry's sword (which was made in Numenor) that broke the spell that made the Witch-King immortal, which then made it possible for Eowyn's blow to kill him. Dig:

From p. 119-120 of RotK.
So passes the sword of the Barrow-Downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the north kingdom when the Dunedain were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar and its sorceror king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will.

The Stryker
01-25-2004, 03:52 AM
argh argh blargh!!!

the movies and the books are too damn long!!!!!

AHH!!!........G-GAAAAH!!!

secondly...Gollum is like a middle-earth equivalent of a crack head...

"I'll suck it......for some precious!"

*rimshot*

and now....lets show that clip of howard dean going crazy!!!

Dean:"YYYYEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!"

HorseTechie
01-26-2004, 11:31 AM
Just to clear up a common misonception, Eowyn (in the books anyway) being a woman was NOT the reason that she was able to slay the Witch-King. It was Merry's sword (which was made in Numenor) that broke the spell that made the Witch-King immortal, which then made it possible for Eowyn's blow to kill him.
Yeah.. I saw that in he movie too. I knew that while she was saying it, the real hero had to have been Merry for stabbing the Witch King first. I was guessing he would do that before he did it, being the one who is not Man (aka the Race of Men, as opposed to gender). Cause wouldn't a Wo-man also be considered one of the Race of Men?

The Defibrillator
01-27-2004, 08:24 AM
Yes indeedy. After I saw the movie, I was like, that's not right..... So I looked it up in the book.