What if the New Cartoon was really bad [Archive]

BigThew

08-30-2002, 07:37 PM

I am only speaking in unrealistic terms, but what if the new cartoon fell way below expectations, from the looks of it, I bet it wont, but what would you do then

would you still get up n the morning to watch the cartoon, buy all the stuff realteing to the new cartoon (DVD's and stuff down the road)

EVEN if i hated the cartoon with all my heart, i would still watch it no matter what

Don't get me wrong, the show looks great to me, I just hope it doesn't turn out to be horrible

Nickokapo

08-31-2002, 02:25 AM

Supposing the new cartoon would be bad, i would still watch it, no matter how bad it is...i've already learned from my mistakes...i thought next mutation was bad so i didn't watched it, and now untill today i regret that choice :ohwell:
But it looks good so far, i don't think it will be bad :)

Karpo_007

08-31-2002, 03:21 AM

HorseTechie

08-31-2002, 11:08 AM

yeah... it's possibly to be scared... after being burned twice from Image comics and TNM (or thrice if you count the third movie).

But I think the Mirage guys learned their lessons... and will give it their all to make sure this show won't totally suck. :P

Karpo_007

08-31-2002, 11:48 AM

Yeah this time Peter is closely involved with the project unlike the first cartoon or next mutation. Especially in next mutation fox called the shots and that's what made it bad...

azure turtle

08-31-2002, 01:40 PM

I have high hopes for this new show, but even if it doesn't live up to expectations, I will loyally follow the cartoon and continue to support the TMNT. Of course, since I'm an optimist, I don't think the cartoon is going to be bad at all. :D

Kali

08-31-2002, 02:18 PM

I agree, it would have to be really bad in order to get me to not watch it. But considering who is behind it, I doubt it'll be that bad, and I have high hopes from what I've seen so far.

Karpo_007

08-31-2002, 02:29 PM

Yeah... I hoep we would see some animation soon... Only then we could know better...

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan

09-01-2002, 06:29 PM

I really hope it does well, but in today's world, kids may think of the Ninja Turtles as old and outdated. The show will have to clamor to today's audience. It also might have to answer to the parents council, or whatever that thing is.

I want the show to do well. I really do. But if history is any indication, it will have a short run and be forgotten.

"Where are they gettin' their gear? Mars?!" - Raphael, from "Turtle Tracks"

Nturtle

09-01-2002, 07:59 PM

I've worried about that too and if they do pander to kids now they will loose many old fans such as myself :x well after sitting through the hell of the foxbox program and seeing what kids like now, we may have trouble :(

azure turtle

09-01-2002, 11:09 PM

Heh... Well, if what I saw at Toys R Us was any indication... I think the TMNT are headed for mainstream media once again. A lot of the kids who opened up their Fox Boxes got really excited over the TMNT mini comic. I was surprised that some of them even knew who the Ninja Turtles were!! One little girl (about age 6 or 7) ran around her mother squealing over the Ninja Turtles. I think the next generation of kids are going to enjoy the TMNT as much as we did. :anime:

speedracer

09-02-2002, 05:56 AM

If turtles look like that and the plots are from mirage i can't believe it would be bad... I have noticed that i even like movies that my friends say are bad... Only thing that could be bad is the fighting scenes... That is an important part of the show...

If the plots are from the Mirage comic series, I'm sure they'll be good. I'm kind of afraid that the new toon will be kind of humor-challenged though. (Think about seasons 7-10 of the old toon.) (And contrary to what Mr. Laird thinks, the old toon wasn't all slapstick and juvenile humor.)

Karpo_007

09-02-2002, 09:57 AM

Yeah the old seris had really good episodes here and there... But I will always love the first season...

Kali

09-02-2002, 01:30 PM

I have really high hopes for the new show. I've seen the fight scenes on MIB and Jackie Chan and they're really good and exciting. And given how they've discribed Mikey, I doubt we'll be wanting for better humor. But we'll have to see.

That is such a cute story, Azure.

azure turtle

09-02-2002, 05:48 PM

Yep... I think the kids are in safe hands with the TMNT. :anime:

I really enjoy watching Jackie Chan Adventures... When I first heard about it, I thought it was going to be real corny. But the storylines are entertaining, the animation is cool, and the fight scenes are well done. Lots of comedy too, especially with Uncle. That guy is too funny. :lol:

All we can do now is hope that the new TMNT cartoon gets off the ground without any complications. And speculating about it is always fun.

Cherubae

09-03-2002, 07:43 AM

If 4Kids has the Turtles lipsinc-ing to that weird theme song for the opening credits I don't know if I'll watch it :dead:

- Cher
Hug your GU today!

HorseTechie

09-03-2002, 09:10 AM

*blink* Whaa... ? I doubt that would be bad... I mean, *nothing* could be worse that Turtle Tunes or that Christmas Video the COOTS did. :wink: :P

Skeletoncrew

09-03-2002, 09:51 AM

*sniff* I didn't get a FoxBox! I'll try today...

Personally, I'll watch it and tape it no matter what! I'll also be buying the action figures!

Karpo_007

09-03-2002, 09:56 AM

I you don't like theme song and that is the reason you don't watch the show... :oops:

azure turtle

09-05-2002, 12:29 PM

I think it's so funny how so many people despise the new theme song. I'm sure there were a lot of older people who thought the original theme was terrible or too corny. I grew up on that theme song, which is why I enjoy it, even though playing it annoys the hell out of my family. Kids who watch this new show will end up having the same feelings over the new theme song... It'll be their song, just like the original was ours. :)

Machias Banshee

09-05-2002, 04:09 PM

so beautifully put Azure! *sniff* I have much faith, just little access... *shrug*

azure turtle

09-07-2002, 12:52 AM

Oy dudette, y'mean you won't be having a TV in your room? Maybe you should ask your roommate to split one with you. Deciding who gets to keep it at the end may be a problem, though...

Machias Banshee

09-07-2002, 09:06 AM

nah, she's planning on moving out soon, so i'll have to engage in cartoonial battle saturday mornings...

azure turtle

09-07-2002, 10:55 PM

Bummer... Maybe you can splay your claws at the potential enemies? I'm sure that will make them give you the remote control without arguing. ;)

Machias Banshee

09-08-2002, 10:59 AM

Dunno, might make them call animal control, and I dont want that...yet. :evilgrin:

azure turtle

09-09-2002, 11:47 PM

*snicker*
I don't think animal control could catch ya, Machias. ;)

Y'know, I'm getting antsy waiting for any screenshots of the new toon. I'm really anxious to see what the finished product will look like. I hope there's going to be a sneak peek sometime soon...

Machias Banshee

09-10-2002, 10:27 AM

hear hear! I also hope the character's voices sould almost as good as the originals...oh, if they were able to get the original voice actors, I'd be able to die happy! :D

Mike

09-10-2002, 01:57 PM

I wouldnt....In my opinion, the original voice actors were terrible,and didnt fit the turtles, and ecspecially wont fir their Mira like attitiudes.

Karpo_007

09-10-2002, 02:43 PM

I think the voices were good for that show, but the new one? Two words: No Fricking way!

speedracer

09-10-2002, 09:00 PM

I wouldnt....In my opinion, the original voice actors were terrible,and didnt fit the turtles, and ecspecially wont fir their Mira like attitiudes.

I thought the Turtles' voices were great in season 1, but Leonardo and Donatello got worse as the series progressed. Leonardo, instead of having his low, grimly determined voice, changed to a annoying high-pitched and sometimes squeaky voice. Donatello's voice turned into that of an effete snob.

Raphael's voice was great, as long as Rob Paulsen was doing the voice.

Michaelangelo's voice was okay, it was just what came out of his mouth that was dumb.

Splinter's voice was way too soft in later seasons.

April was pretty solid.

Vernon had the most annoying voice in the toon, hands down. Thank God he won't be reappearing (I hope).

azure turtle

09-10-2002, 09:01 PM

Pssst, Karpo... That was three words. ;)

I think the old VAs could pull off the voices for the new cartoon if they sounded a lower and a bit rougher. Coleman could ease up on Mike's voice, and lose the surfer lingo.

Cjd3458

09-14-2002, 07:32 PM

The new cartoon looks a bit darker than the old one. I thought the new theme song for the tmnt cartoon kindof rocked and rolled. :rolling:

R-iZZy

09-14-2002, 09:29 PM

JACK JIMMENY CRICKET!!! i woke up at 9:27 AM today (saturday) and thought the show was at 10! i had to go through these muscle man and ultima tiga shows. kirby was cool, seeing that i've played teh series from NES to GB to N64. it just might come on GC. anyway... i need to know, does the show come at 9 AM every morning?

Machias Banshee

09-14-2002, 10:31 PM

They have the official schedule at the FoxBox website, i believe...

R-iZZy

09-14-2002, 10:44 PM

and the link is...?

Machias Banshee

09-14-2002, 10:54 PM

Uh....shoot, i dont have it...

R-iZZy

09-14-2002, 11:16 PM

hmmm... i'll use google to look for it

azure turtle

09-15-2002, 05:03 PM

Yo Ninja Nin! ;) Here's the link to the Fox Box site: www.foxbox.tv

The TMNT cartoon will begin airing sometime in February, and it'll have the 10 am spot.

spooie redux

09-18-2002, 04:54 AM

With the Jackie Chan crew behind it, I wonder if the series writing will be as captivating as Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot, which they also made. A truly underrated comic-based series that was cancelled way before it's time.

After seeing a reflux of 80s properties come back resently, like the new He-Man show, which appears to be pretty good so far... I don't think there will be much to worry about. Then again, it could end up like Transformers: Armada... which makes me want to cry.

:cry:

I'll hope for the best.

Karpo_007

09-18-2002, 10:25 AM

Well I truly hope that kids today will like tmnt. If it becomes popular again that would mean more prjoects. I think that the 4th movie probably depends on it...

azure turtle

09-18-2002, 09:29 PM

Indeed... There is a lot riding on this cartoon series. Besides the movie, the Hallmark mini-series is also waiting in the wings. I hope kids nowadays will love the TMNT as much as we do...
*crosses fingers*

Machias Banshee

09-18-2002, 09:35 PM

I have a bad feeling that the Anime junk might cause our heroes some issues... :(

azure turtle

09-18-2002, 10:07 PM

Are you talking about the other shows on Fox Box?? Or are you talking about the anime influence on the new TMNT cartoon?

Karpo_007

09-19-2002, 09:39 AM

Anime influence? There is nothing anime like in tmnt for what i've seen...

HorseTechie

09-19-2002, 10:08 AM

I have a bad feeling that the Anime junk might cause our heroes some issues... :(
Issues..? Like what kind? That the TMNT doesn't have a heard of mon-critters to fight with? :roll:

Mikey *pouting* But... I wanted to have Klunk in the show too, cause then he could be our Ninja Kitty sidekick!

Raph: mmh, get over it. If that happened, then Splinter would be trainer of all the rats to fight back against the mousers. Or the Rat King. Sqeakchu! Attack! Sqeakachu! Squeeeeeakachu! Squeak! ...gah...

*Mike crosses arms in scorn*

Raph: ohh.. and don't make me *think* of all the digimon things Don might make from the spare mouser and foot soldier parts...

:P

azure turtle

09-19-2002, 12:42 PM

Anime influence? There is nothing anime like in tmnt for what i've seen...
I dunno, but the new look for the turtles seem to have a bit of anime influence to me. Maybe it's the way the shading is done, or the expressive eyes. It's too early to say for sure. I know that Jackie Chan Adventures definitely has a lot of anime influence, but the MIB cartoon didn't look like anime at all. We'll just have to wait and see...

LOL @ HT!!! Time to stop eating all the peanut brittle, dudette. ;) But wouldn't it be funny to see Mikey summon Klunk for some sort of bizarre attack?? :lol:

Mikey: Klunk!! Thundershock attack!

Klunk: Meow? :???:

HorseTechie

09-20-2002, 11:08 AM

Peanut Brittle? That was just the Rasberry Lipton Icetea I was drinking.
*notices the garrish typos and fixes them* eheh....

The only thing anime about TMNT were that handfull of episodes a Japanese company made after the TMNT cartoon. If anything, the Mirage storyline borrowed off of the Daredevil comic origins. It's all comic book or movie influenced, the TMNT are.

azure turtle

09-20-2002, 12:59 PM

Oh!! Oops, I didn't mean the creation of the TMNT are anime influenced! I meant the new looks for the new cartoon seem anime influenced. Sorry about that...
*slaps himself silly for not being clearer*

Machias Banshee

09-20-2002, 01:15 PM

Yeah, that's what i was worried about. I dont want to see that sweatdrop-on-the-side-of-the-head thing, or the big eyelashes, or the giant circled mouths, or any of that stuff...*cringe*...normal drawings thank you very much!

Mike

09-20-2002, 01:33 PM

I dont wanna see anime TMNT for two reasons.... 1) anime= japanes animation, and this isn't don by the japanese. 2) The TMNT were not meant to be anime ish. Also, the drawings have no simiarities to anime at all. I dont see how Jackie Chan looks anime at all either, besides the Jade.

Kali

09-20-2002, 01:43 PM

Well, they do do a lot of exaggerated expressions in Jackie Chan, which is inspired by anime and manga.

I doubt they'll have those "silly" anime things like sweatdrops and huge eyes and such, but not all anime is silly. I don't want a total anime style TMNT show, but it would be neat to have a few touches here and there.

Karpo_007

09-21-2002, 11:08 AM

Well the kiddie aimes like pokemon and such are bad. But there are much more into anime than that. Ypu will never see so violent anmation than in anime. You can hardly see blood in western cartoons... In anime you can see someones brains blow out at close range... And then anime has those Mechas... But thats another story..

Raphael-sama

09-21-2002, 02:14 PM

It is completely possible to have a cartoon that appeals to kids and draws them in and yet still has an intelligent enough story and characters to bring in adults. It's been done before. The original show would not have half the fanbase it does now if it wasn't a show that someone of any age could sit down and watch without feeling their intelligence is being insulted. Considering everything being pushed into this cartoon, I doubt we have anything to worry about.

Also, as for the anime-razings: not all anime is piddly little Pokémon crap like quite a few of you seem to think. Go watch the third season of Digimon all the way through and then look me in the face and tell me that, even for a show that's pegged as a "pokémon clone" and a "cheap kiddy show", it was a good watch with a mature plot and interesting characters. And if you say it wasn't, I'll stab your eyes out with my sai.

HorseTechie

09-23-2002, 02:41 PM

Yeah, yeah. We aren't saying all anime is bad. I like Digimon and Medabots myself. :D I just don't think it should influence all the cartoons being made. Too much of a good thing going bad, n all that. :wink:

Mike

09-23-2002, 02:59 PM

Im not a fan of kiddy animes at all. I like shows like Cowboy Beebop, trigun, and the Akira movie.

HorseTechie

09-24-2002, 08:43 AM

Yeah.. I usually go for those too. just recently, I got this one called Ghost Sweeper. It was a previewed DVD on sale at Block Buster, and it was also by Mango. But I was a little put-down to find they used the exagerated anime expressions in this one. Bleh. Would have be a good movie otherwise.

azure turtle

09-24-2002, 01:19 PM

PWDESAI

09-24-2002, 07:36 PM

i wouldn't mind, i would sitll love it since it is part of tmnt, and i don't think it could get much worse than next mutation.

azure turtle

09-24-2002, 09:03 PM

My hopes are high for this new cartoon, and with Peter working closely with 4 Kids, I'm sure everything will turn out fine. :)

HorseTechie

09-25-2002, 01:27 PM

Yeah.. I usually go for those too. just recently, I got this one called Ghost Sweeper. It was a previewed DVD on sale at Block Buster, and it was also by Mango.
What?? An anime called Ghost Sweeper by Mango?!! HT, don't you mean Manga?? LOL!!! It looks like my Mango Cult has claimed a new follower. :evilgrin:
Bleh... that's not a sign I want to join the cult. *scowls at Mango and tells it to get back in the typo demon pen* It's just uh.. one of my typo-mons that got loose. Yeah.. :tanime:

azure turtle

09-25-2002, 02:25 PM

*snicker*
Gotta keep a closer eye on these typo-mons! ;)

Ninjara

09-27-2002, 09:06 AM

here is a concept: why not forget if the cartoon was bad, and focus on the fact that people still care enough about the TMNT to bring them back CGI or not!

i'm a fan til the end, and i will always love my eighties and my eighties cartoons....and nothing the critics nor the public can say will ever change that! :P

so poo poo to all you non TMNT fans!!!! :|

in the words of a favorite group of mine: IT'S NONE OF YA BUSINESS!!!

azure turtle

09-27-2002, 12:24 PM

*sprinkles a little Salt 'n Peppa on his mango*
Indeed! It's awesome that the TMNT franchise was greeted with open arms from 4 Kids. Now we've got a new cartoon to look forward to! :thyper:

Karpo_007

09-27-2002, 01:39 PM

Yeah! And now they are doing it right! But they should have done that the first time around..

giblet

10-04-2002, 06:59 AM

i didnt like the next mutation...the girl turtle messed it up..i like the origional...i hope the new one is good

R-iZZy

10-04-2002, 07:11 AM

how many times are we gonna get into this subject? :tlol:

HorseTechie

10-04-2002, 09:57 AM

As many times as we'll have new TMNT fans with reoccuring opinions. :P

Serena

10-10-2002, 06:38 AM

*absolutey agrees with Ninjara*

I love the eighties and the eighties cartoons, too.
And at least it's great that there'll be a new TMNT cartoon series aired, no matter if it's that fantastic or not. I'll watch it anyway.

How hard it has been to live without the TMNT for so long... :wink:

R-iZZy

10-10-2002, 07:07 AM

okay... letz bomb on the next mutation some more!!! :tdead: ummm... okay. i'll just agree with whatever u said or whatever anyone said.

*places hand on chin and nods head in agreement to nothing*