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Savanti Romero
02-10-2004, 06:25 PM
Why are there so many wrestling fans here? I don't see the connection between Turtles and professional wrestling that would make so many fans like both? Just wandering.
Personally I don't really get it or like it.
Stone Ill
02-10-2004, 06:27 PM
I don't care for that crap.
Raven
02-10-2004, 06:40 PM
ya I like wrestaling, some times its just stupid, but I enjoy watching it.
Savanti Romero
02-10-2004, 06:42 PM
Can I ask why?
Dane E5R
02-10-2004, 06:43 PM
I don't much care for it anymore, but I will always respect those men and women for what they go through for our entertainment.
Savanti Romero
02-10-2004, 06:45 PM
I thought most of it was fake.
Bowser_Koopa
02-10-2004, 06:47 PM
i heard it even had script
malignant
02-10-2004, 06:48 PM
I like wrestling.....Not so much now since it's going downhill thanks to the WWE....but it still appeals to me...
why?..cause it's entertaining. Don't judge other peoples tastes...
edit- um..you can't fake the moves they do. I dare someone to try what they do sometime...=]
Skits, promos...the ending of matches..yes...fake. Who the hell doesnt know that by now?
Raven
02-10-2004, 06:49 PM
of course wrestaling is fake, the camera always seems to be in the right spot just as somthing big is about to happen
host_punktmy
02-10-2004, 06:50 PM
On the last smackdown they had some really obvious missed punches
Raven
02-10-2004, 06:51 PM
they do that alot on raw to
Reznorite420
02-10-2004, 07:10 PM
There was a period of less than a year where I watched WWF thanks to a friend who hooked me onto it. Later after I saw many flies it attracted, I gave it a cold shoulder and never watched it since. I will say that my early days of wrestling watching were pretty damn wonderful, though.
Taloniss
02-10-2004, 07:25 PM
I like wrestling, but WWE has gone to hell since 2001. I stick to japan stuff mostly now, and the occasional WWE show, if I think it has any chance of being good.
host_punktmy
02-10-2004, 07:27 PM
never did like wwe or wwf i always watched wcw but its not on now
ZariusTwo
02-10-2004, 07:35 PM
never did like wwe or wwf i always watched wcw but its not on now
Oh geez, no wonder you hate wrestling, WCW sucked
Taloniss
02-10-2004, 07:36 PM
never did like wwe or wwf i always watched wcw but its not on now
Oh geez, no wonder you hate wrestling, WCW sucked
Only from mid 99 on. Before that, they were ok, and in the early years, they had some good-great wrestling.
host_punktmy
02-10-2004, 07:37 PM
i just liked sting
Raven
02-10-2004, 07:38 PM
ya sting was cool, he reminded me of the crow
Reznorite420
02-10-2004, 07:38 PM
The thing I don't get is why Ted Turner had to start a fed for himself? He was already making billions with his already-existing networks.
host_punktmy
02-10-2004, 07:39 PM
who knows
Taloniss
02-10-2004, 07:39 PM
The thing I don't get is why Ted Turner had to start a fed for himself? He was already making billions with his already-existing networks.
He thought it would make more money? Rich people always want more.
Reznorite420
02-10-2004, 07:39 PM
who knowsObviously not you.
ZariusTwo
02-10-2004, 07:40 PM
The thing I don't get is why Ted Turner had to start a fed for himself? He was already making billions with his already-existing networks.
He and Vince had a rivalry, Turner attempted to take the Mcmahon family out of business, unfourtunatly, he allowed the company to go to hell
host_punktmy
02-10-2004, 07:40 PM
bill gates for instance. Windows is inferrior
Taloniss
02-10-2004, 07:41 PM
Oh, and I don't think he started it. I think he bought the territory, split it off of the NWA after some business between them got messed up, and that's when it took off somewhat. I'm not positive on that, but I think that's what happened.
ZariusTwo
02-10-2004, 07:43 PM
Ted Turner bought WCW from the Crocketts, and Turner then seperated WCW from the NWA.
The Clerk
02-10-2004, 09:04 PM
I like wrestling... not so much as before, WWF in like, 98 was awesome. The whole Aliance vs. WWF thing was cool, just what happened after when WWF won kinda sucked, 'cause no one was fired who was on the Aliance. RAW is a good program, SmackDown is alright... RAW, in my opinion, has the overall better roster. Sure, Angle is a good wrestler, but he's a much better heel than face, especially if he's with Vinnie Mac ( :lol: , him with a small cowboy hat and a guitar was priceless). I always liked the Hardy Boyz and X-Treme. But when the draft hapened and Bradshaw turned the Harcore title to a "Texas Hardcore" Title, i kinda didn't care much for those matches anymore... And the WWF got a lot of new people at once, well, a lot of new people went on tv at the same time. bringing the nWo back was awesome, until Hogan went good after the Rock and they basically killed the nWo.... it was better in the past...
ZariusTwo
02-10-2004, 09:09 PM
bringing the nWo back was awesome, until Hogan went good after the Rock and they basically killed the nWo.... it was better in the past...
Errrm..on the contrary the "new guys" are better than 90% of the crappy RAW roster, and SMACKDOWN is the better show.
People like Randy Orton, Brock Lesner, and John Cena are the future of this business
Triple H is holding everyone down by banging Stephenie Mcmahon, but Chris Benoit (one of the greatest wrestlers ever) will face him at Wrestlemania 20 with Shawn Michales..this way Hunter does'nt have to do the job.
The Clerk
02-10-2004, 09:22 PM
Brock is alright, he's better as a heel, tho. I do like Cena, but i don't think he's ready for the world title yet. I don't like the "world's greatest tag team", i still think Team X-Treme was awesome and that Matt Hardy is underrated. Too Cool was a good stable at first, but then they just faded away....
But a quick question, in the WcW stable, 3 count (the boy band thing) were two of the members Hurricane and Shannon Moore?
malignant
02-10-2004, 09:28 PM
You guys wanna see actual Good wrestling matches..
Watch NWA-TNA.
Although..they're starting to go the way of WCW did and hire old people..heh. But they have a national television deal beginning some time this year....and they will give WWE competition finally.
Iron Bison
02-10-2004, 09:44 PM
Wrestling is a soap for guys and some girls, and just like a regular soap on daytime tv, they have a script and actors, but WWE has actors who are athletic and also use violence with their stories, stories that entertain.
ZariusTwo
02-10-2004, 10:18 PM
You guys wanna see actual Good wrestling matches..
Watch NWA-TNA.finally.
SMACKDOWN DOES have quality wrestling matches, Angle and Benoit OWN Jarret and Styles, even if both are great tlaent themselves
ZariusTwo
02-10-2004, 10:20 PM
Brock is alright, he's better as a heel, tho. I do like Cena, but i don't think he's ready for the world title yet. I don't like the "world's greatest tag team"
Even though there the greatest Tag Team in the company and pull off quality matches?
GK Punk
02-10-2004, 10:25 PM
I've always said, the one thing worse than a wrestling fan is a non wrestling fan. Why? Because Non wrestling fans will sit around telling you how stupid you are for watching wrestling, acting like you don't know it's fixed.
Obviously, it's fixed, it's just like any other TV show. Yes, these guys do get hurt you jump off of a ladder 20 feet above the ring with out getting hurt. You can fix the end of a match, but you can't fake gravity.
I don't understand why you worry about why other people may like something you don't.
Reznorite420
02-11-2004, 01:47 AM
I've always said, the one thing worse than a wrestling fan is a non wrestling fan.You know, with that statement, you're making it sound like it's a crime to not be wrestling fan...
GK Punk
02-11-2004, 01:48 AM
I've always said, the one thing worse than a wrestling fan is a non wrestling fan.You know, with that statement, you're making it sound like it's a crime to not be wrestling fan...
Well like I said, Non-Fans will bash Fans and act like we don't know it's Fixed. They tend to insult us constantly
That Matt Guy
02-11-2004, 02:28 AM
I liked it when there was more than one company dominating the genre. :roll:
Reznorite420
02-11-2004, 10:16 AM
Well, don't get me wrong; like I said, the brief period where I did watch wrestling was actually one of the most fun times in my life. The only real reason I stopped watching it was because I'd moved to a new school district and didn't get cable for over a year...that and the school I went to was a bit high class, and I was, shall we say, assimilated into their culture.
That's not to say I hate it altogether, I just don't find that much interest in it anymore.
WrestlingTurtlesFan4Life
02-11-2004, 10:26 AM
Oh crap, now you guys have done it. Expect me to post something about this, Saturday morning........Expect it to be Sean........YOU'VE ALL DONE IT NOW!!
Mwahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!
I'm going over his house now. I'll be back by midnight my time. Teehee.
SlayerX
02-11-2004, 01:14 PM
WWE RAW & Popcorn every Monday Night
WWE Smackdown! most Thursday nights
The PPV feed sites every PPV time
TMNT every Saturday morning
Simpsons ~ 10 hours of the week
King of the hill ~ 5 hours
Family guy 2 1/2 hours a week
NHL every time wrestling or TMNT isn't on
First ever wrestling thing I saw was when we first moved to Alberta, and had to live in a hotel for 4 days, I turned on the TV just as HHH Pedigreed Mick Foley onto the thumbtacks at Royal Rumble 2001 (I think...) ever since then i've liked it.
Sure, I know its fake, everything is scripted, etc, but its not HOW it happens, it's WHAT happens.
Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Y2J Chris Jericho, Taker, Kane, Angle, Triple H, etc. are all awesome!
People constantly tell me "oh wrestling is fake boo hoo hoo!" so I just ignore them, or tell them to get lost... ok now I forget what I was going to talk about so im just going to leave now :goofygri:
Mondo J. Gecko
02-11-2004, 01:30 PM
I never really like wrestling all that much... I play the video games (WWF 64?) every now and then.... but mostly I don't like it much.....but back in the day Hulk Hogan was my Hero..... he rock the Yellow spandex!!!!
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan
02-11-2004, 01:36 PM
I liked wrestling back when I was younger, but it leaves much to be desired now.
I grew up watching Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage, Million Dollar Man, and Roddy Piper. Then I followed the "Next Generation" of superstars like Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon, Diesel, British Bulldog, Undertaker, Yokozuna, etc.
It was when the WWF ushered in the "Attitude Era" in 1998 that I tuned out altogether. I still catch a couple of shows per year, but wrestling ain't what it used to be.
"I'm not your boytoy!" - Shawn Michaels
jeff the cheff
02-11-2004, 05:05 PM
I used to watch it, but I started to loose interest in it when I was about 11 or 12...so about 5 years ago.
I've always said, the one thing worse than a wrestling fan is a non wrestling fan. Why? Because Non wrestling fans will sit around telling you how stupid you are for watching wrestling, acting like you don't know it's fixed.
Obviously, it's fixed, it's just like any other TV show. Yes, these guys do get hurt you jump off of a ladder 20 feet above the ring with out getting hurt. You can fix the end of a match, but you can't fake gravity.
I don't understand why you worry about why other people may like something you don't.
That isn't true for me, since I used to watch it. People used to give me all that crap when I watched it, so I wouldn't do that now that I am not a fan. I have a few questions about wrestling since I haven't watched it in a long time, maybe some fans could answer them....
What happened with wcw, when did it go out of bussiness? What happened to that Ahmed Johnson guy, remember him? Someone said that smackdown was better then raw....what is the difference besides different days and channels? (btw I went to the first smackdown they had, it was in CT, before it went on thursdays.) Doink the clown? Anything ever happen to him?
If anyone could answer theese questions, thanks a lot.
By the way, don't call it WWE, it's WWF.
Bowser_Koopa
02-11-2004, 05:12 PM
That isn't true for me, since I used to watch it. People used to give me all that crap when I watched it, so I wouldn't do that now that I am not a fan. I me neither, i used to like it too, but even if i never had liked it i wouldn't do that
ZariusTwo
02-11-2004, 05:24 PM
I used to watch it, but I started to loose interest in it when I was about 11 or 12...so about 5 years ago.
[quote]I've always said, the one thing worse than a wrestling fan is a non wrestling fan. Why? Because Non wrestling fans will sit around telling you how stupid you are for watching wrestling, acting like you don't know it's fixed.
Obviously, it's fixed, it's just like any other TV show. Yes, these guys do get hurt you jump off of a ladder 20 feet above the ring with out getting hurt. You can fix the end of a match, but you can't fake gravity.
I don't understand why you worry about why other people may like something you don't.
That isn't true for me, since I used to watch it. People used to give me all that crap when I watched it, so I wouldn't do that now that I am not a fan. I have a few questions about wrestling since I haven't watched it in a long time, maybe some fans could answer them....
What happened with wcw, when did it go out of bussiness?[.QUOTE]
WCW finalyl collapsed due to the complete incompetance of it's booking staff, BVince bought the company in March 2001, and then used it in WWF storylines until November 2001, WW was then deactivated.
What happened to that Ahmed Johnson guy, remember him?
Ahmed Johnson sucked as a wrestler, who cares about him?
Someone said that smackdown was better then raw....what is the difference besides different days and channels?
You don't get it, the WWE split thier roster into two different shows, one half has RAW, the other has SMACKDOWN, SMACKDOWN has great talent like Kurt Angle, Brock Lesner, World's Greatest Tag Team, Eddie Guererro and John Cena
RAW has sh*t like the talentless World Champion Triple H, the overated Rob Van Dam, and Goldberg,. but also has some good talent in the form of Chris Jericho, Christan, and Kane.
Doink the clown? Anything ever happen to him?.
Who cares?
By the way, don't call it WWE, it's WWF.
I'll call it whatever the hell I want, it's WWE now, get over it.
Taloniss
02-11-2004, 05:27 PM
Ahmed was let go by WWE, went to WCW for awhile, and is now either retired or on the indy Circut.
The original Doink is still on WWE staff as a trainer and road agent I believe.
Smackdown and Raw are now seperate "brands" since WWE realiazed it needs competition to try to better itself, but they still haven't fully seperated. Both have good and bad talent on each.
I'll call it whatever the hell I want, it's WWE now, get over it
Snippy much? He likes to call it WWF, no need to bite the dudes head off.
malignant
02-11-2004, 05:30 PM
Raws the better show..entertainment wise...
and "occasionally" Smackdown puts on good matches, lately the same **** over and over though. When the Brands first split Smackdown was far superior to Raw....but Raw has made Smackdown look like the dying days of WCW lately...heh
ZariusTwo
02-11-2004, 05:40 PM
Raw has made Smackdown look like the dying days of WCW lately...heh
Suuuuuuuuuuuuure
RAW and SMACKDOWN are BOTH pretty good at the moment, RAW seems determined to be the "Triple H and Shawn Michales" show, with special guest Chris Benoit.
God, I hope he wins the Title...
Taloniss
02-11-2004, 07:00 PM
RAW and SMACKDOWN are BOTH pretty good at the moment
Raw is still boring. There was about a 45 minute stretch between on matches on the last Raw, and one of the matches was a one minute squash no one cared about. Smackdown has sucked of late too, although I'm interested in to see how they handle the Eddy push.
jeff the cheff
02-11-2004, 07:19 PM
Ahmed Johnson sucked as a wrestler, who cares about him?
I obviously do, thats why I asked about him. :roll:
Doink the clown? Anything ever happen to him?.
Who cares?
:roll: Once again, I do, and thats why I asked.
That seems really weird that they split up smackdown and raw. I think it was better how they did it before, where they both had the same wrestlers. Is this like the WWF splitting up or something? Do they ever do raw vs smackdown matches.....like on PPV?
ZariusTwo
02-11-2004, 07:29 PM
(Sigh)
Honestly, it's nearly impossible to get some sense into these marks...
Ahmed Johanson really could not wrestle, OR cut a good promo, it's ridiculous to like him
Both brands have thier own PPVS, and only come together at Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam, and Survivor Series
No, they do NOT have "RAW VS SMACKDOWN" matches,
at least not until Wrestlemania, which will see Brock Lesner take on Goldberg
Taloniss
02-11-2004, 08:44 PM
Ahmed Johanson really could not wrestle, OR cut a good promo, it's ridiculous to like him
Why is it so ridiculous? Because he happens to like a wrestler, despite his lack of wrestling talent? Big deal. It's his right to like who he wants.
SlayerX
02-11-2004, 08:54 PM
RAW and SMACKDOWN are BOTH pretty good at the moment, RAW seems determined to be the "Triple H and Shawn Michales" show, with special guest Chris Benoit.
God, I hope he wins the Title...
Benoit will pin Shawn Michaels (who will be put into the match to make it triple threat match) and win the title, with Triple H not having to job to Benoit, and still lose his title.
No, they do NOT have "RAW VS SMACKDOWN" matches,
at least not until Wrestlemania, which will see Brock Lesner take on Goldberg
As well as Stacy Kiebler / Miss Jackie vs. Torrie Wilson / Sable
They also have R vs S matches on their other 3 joint PPV's, none come to mind tho...
jeff the cheff
02-11-2004, 09:01 PM
That seems like a bad idea that they seperated the wwf. I'll have to see what its like, maybe I'll watch wrestling sometime.
ZariusTwo
02-11-2004, 09:04 PM
[quote]Benoit will pin Shawn Michaels (who will be put into the match to make it triple threat match) and win the title, with Triple H not having to job to Benoit, and still lose his title.
It's going to be a Ladder match, this way none of the main eventers can job, Benoit will take the title and wrestle Shawn Michales at Backlash
Meeko
02-11-2004, 10:43 PM
I used to like wrestling now its not to great in my opinion
i remember my bro thinking jake the snake was going to release his snake on him when we were at a show once....
GK Punk
02-12-2004, 05:35 AM
That seems like a bad idea that they seperated the wwf. I'll have to see what its like, maybe I'll watch wrestling sometime.
Actually I think the split helped. Now guys Like Eddie Guerro and John Cena get pushed instead of being universally held down by Triple H.
Ahmed Johnson also worked for the WCW for a few years as the short lived "Harlem Heat 2000"
Savanti Romero
02-12-2004, 04:07 PM
I don't understand why you worry about why other people may like something you don't.
I wasn't meaning to bash it, not here with all the fans, because I would have said it (ex., not necessarily my stance) flat out sucked. Sorry, but I was just trying to get some of the fans opinions here so I could see what fellow Turtle fans liked about pro wrestling. And trust me, I've met a lot of people who like it and believe it's completely real. I don't watch, so I was just asking if what I heard was true about it being fake. There are people here who think it's real too.
quote-Skits, promos...the ending of matches..yes...fake. Who the hell doesnt know that by now?
me
Bowser_Koopa
02-12-2004, 04:32 PM
i can't believe the poll O_O out of 24 votes 8 like 8 hate and 8 half shell, XD
Ninjatron
02-13-2004, 01:00 PM
To actually answer the question at hand:
Why are there so many wrestling fans here? I don't see the connection between Turtles and professional wrestling that would make so many fans like both? Just wandering.
Personally I don't really get it or like it.
All sorts of people, from all over th world, are wrestling fans. You can go to a Star Wars message board, a video game message board, or pretty much anywhere else on the net, and find wrestling fans. The fact that this is a TMNT board doesn't factor into anything at all, because it's just as likely as any other board to have wrestling fans.
To paraphrase the great Diamond Dallas Page: To those who don't get it, no amount of explanation change their mind. But to those that do get it, no explanation is nessasary.
Sayonara.
That Matt Guy
02-13-2004, 01:23 PM
To paraphrase the great Diamond Dallas Page: To those who don't get it, no amount of explanation change their mind. But to those that do get it, no explanation is nessasary.
Sayonara.
That's a good quote, and it explains it in a nutshell. Even though it's coming from someone that had Dennis Rodman's crotch shoved into their face. :roll:
Sayonara, sucker.
King31
02-13-2004, 03:48 PM
Love it!!
Savanti Romero
02-13-2004, 04:17 PM
Interesting. This is the only forum board I really go to so that comes as new info. This one eats way to much of my time as it is.
Than another question I would ask is why there are so many wrestling fans on forum boards? I have lots of friends and none of them like wrestling. So what's assosiation beetween forum board fans and wrestiling fans.
Anarky
02-13-2004, 04:34 PM
well there are many people that like the turtles
and there are many people who like wrestling
so chances are quite high taht couple o' people like both...
Savanti Romero
02-13-2004, 04:40 PM
According to that little survey there is approximatley 50% of the people here that like both. I'm pretty sure if it was a completley random sample of the population, chances are there wouldn't be that many. It's probably a relatively low percent of the population that like Turtles and Wrestling, but then again I havn't actually done the work, but.....
ZariusTwo
02-13-2004, 05:45 PM
According to that little survey there is approximatley 50% of the people here that like both. I'm pretty sure if it was a completley random sample of the population, chances are there wouldn't be that many.
Chances are you'll be proven wrong again.
Turtles is'nt even watched by a "low percentage" of people for god's sake...
GK Punk
02-13-2004, 10:53 PM
According to that little survey there is approximatley 50% of the people here that like both. I'm pretty sure if it was a completley random sample of the population, chances are there wouldn't be that many. It's probably a relatively low percent of the population that like Turtles and Wrestling, but then again I havn't actually done the work, but.....
RAW is constantly the number 1 Highest Rated Cable Program every monday night, and has been on and off since the 90s. The only show on mondays that beat it? WCW Nitro.
Savanti Romero
02-16-2004, 10:19 AM
O K it's useless to argue here because just like me and pretty much everyone else here, your minds are closed for discussion on this forum board. For the Turtles sake.
ZariusTwo
02-16-2004, 03:45 PM
O K it's useless to argue here because just like me and pretty much everyone else here, your minds are closed for discussion on this forum board. For the Turtles sake.
We've proven you wrong, so how are our minds "closed?" for stating FACTS to your face?
Bottom Line: you don't like wrestling, and wrestling fans like us don't give a damn.
GK Punk
02-16-2004, 10:03 PM
O K it's useless to argue here because just like me and pretty much everyone else here, your minds are closed for discussion on this forum board. For the Turtles sake.
:lol:
Who's mind is closed? :lol:
raphael_is_cool
02-17-2004, 07:01 AM
I think by 'minds closed' they meant that no one's gonna change what they think about it through discussion
Savanti Romero
02-17-2004, 12:26 PM
That's exactly what I meant. Remind me, did I say my mind was closed or not? I'll answer it for you, I did say it was, so why in the shell are you asking if my minds closed when it says it in the post above yours.
So like I said before.
WHO'S MINDS CLOSED?
MINE AND EVERYONE ELSES, so don't act like yours isn't.
What in the shell FACTS have been in my face. THERE ARE NO FACTS ON THIS THREAD, only a bunch of opinions, so there is no way you have FACTUALLY PROVEN ME WRONG. Neither have I proven you wrong. No one has PROVEN anything wrong or right on this thread.
GK Punk
02-17-2004, 11:39 PM
That's exactly what I meant. Remind me, did I say my mind was closed or not? I'll answer it for you, I did say it was, so why in the shell are you asking if my minds closed when it says it in the post above yours.
So like I said before.
WHO'S MINDS CLOSED?
MINE AND EVERYONE ELSES, so don't act like yours isn't.
What in the shell FACTS have been in my face. THERE ARE NO FACTS ON THIS THREAD, only a bunch of opinions, so there is no way you have FACTUALLY PROVEN ME WRONG. Neither have I proven you wrong. No one has PROVEN anything wrong or right on this thread.
Well the fact that Raw and Nitro have been the highest Rated shows on monday nights was a Fact. There's proof of it out there.
And since when was this about proving people right or wrong?
Since Someone here obviously can't handle a discussion with out throwing fits, Im locking this.
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