Will TV Indeacency and the Super Bowl Haunt us?

[ThirdMarioBro]

We all know about what happened this year on the Super Bowl, so it need not be repeated. If you don't, check the old topics. My question is, what will result of this. NBC, and ABC are already altering their shows to accomidate the opinions of the stuck ups at Washington, and the world's supply of Soccer moms. I could care less about what they do to ER and NYPD Blue, but that about Saturday morning?
On the grand scale, it has not been that long since the days when the idiotic networks wouldn't allow a the original TMNT to have any violence whatsoever, because Ninja weapons were too violent. The show had to be toned down "for the sake of our children". At my old school (in 1992), a kid was expelled for bringing a plastic Katana to school with his Leonardo costume on Halloween.
We all know how 4Kids Entertainment screws up anime by toning it down to the point that no one over the are of 8 cares to watch it. Their Sonic X dub is a total joke. But TMNT on the other hand, is one of the most well written, well executed, well voice acted, and all well done animated series of time. It so good, because the series is being made to suit two age groups. The new fans, and us oldtimers (so to speak :wink: ). It's great because they don't try to water down the scripts. They tell a story with chatacters who are believeable, and actually have substance. The bad guys are pure evil, and the baddest of them all had his head lopped off by Leonardo. The thing that worries me most, is that some politiction,at some time, needing something to ride into office, will go after violence on childrens television, and reduce the new TMNT (and lost of other stuff as well), to slapstick sweetness and light, where the good guy always wins, and everyone lives happily ever after.
This is one of my deepest fears. We're coming up on the "City at War" saga. What if all of this came true, and destroyed something which we all love so much? I'll stop here before I become any more depressed.

Thoughts anyone?

[Voltron]

Of course its going to happen. It always does. They freak out about everything.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Of course its going to happen. It always does. They freak out about everything.

I pray you're wrong, but knowing the people of this retarded world, you're most likely right.

[Kid Icarus]

I have a feeling that if this happens Laird will pull the show, as he's said he won't let it get anywhere near as dumbed down as the old show.

Untill some new kid tries to beat someone with a broom handle 'cause he "Saw Donatello do it", I don't think we have much to worry about.

I wish parents would just raise their kids to know that cartoons are fake, beating people is bad, and so on...... but that'll never happen.

[Reznorite420]

We all know how 4Kids Entertainment screws up anime by toning it down to the point that no one over the are of 8 cares to watch it.God help ANYONE who watches ANY sort of anime, regardless of age :D

[jeff the cheff]

I'm sure they already made the city at war episodes, and they are coming on soon, so they probobly wont be affected. I would hate it if they ruined our show. That is really ridiculous about that kid getting expelled in your school, especially since it was part of a costume.

[Voltron]

I pray I'm wrong, too. The new Turtle show is phenomenal, and to see it reduced to a 22 minute crap fest where the bad guys have a mental age of 4 going up against protagonists that can't help but blurt out some quip about the current situation would be enough to drive me to suicide...

[Reznorite420]

DOUBLE POSTER!!!! GIVE HIM A WARNING!!!! :lol:

J/K, dude ;)

[Deathknight]

Unfortunately, the world is populated by a lot of stupid people. A kid expelled for bringing in a plastic Katana with his Leonardo costume? Come on, that's just sad. I remember in like 3rd grade I dressed up as Darth Vader and I brought in a light saber. No one complained about that. It's just starting to get pathetic honestly.

[Reznorite420]

It's situations such as those that are the reason why I listen to George Carlin so much.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm sure they already made the city at war episodes, and they are coming on soon, so they probobly wont be affected. I would hate it if they ruined our show. That is really ridiculous about that kid getting expelled in your school, especially since it was part of a costume.

The city at War episodes have been finished fow quite a while.
There was an episode of ER where they showed part of an old woman's boob while she was on the hospital table, but after the super bowl, they reedited the entire episode to tone it down. That's what I'm afraid of.

[Reznorite420]

There was an episode of ER where they showed part of an old woman's boob while she was on the hospital tableNow that I can understand why they took it out :lol:

[Bowser_Koopa]

i have seen naked boobs on tv shows :lol: , they were indians, and they didn't even care to censore(sp?) it XD

[jeff the cheff]

BOOBS!!!!!! :lol:

[Demonfox38]

Eh, the show's rated Y7. The parents were warned.

The Fox Network isn't probably going to change their programming too much, since it is known for its off-beat humor and shows. They get away with a lot of stuff, even in Saturday Morning Cartoons. Anyone remember that insane bit they had with Mr. Cheeks? (God help us all on that one.)

As far as it goes for TMNT viewers in the US, we should be okay.

I really doubt that too much programming change will be happening due to this. Perhaps we get nixed a few swear-words or innuedo scenes, but that's about it. The FCC is just going to make sure that stuff like that isn't going to be pulled again.

If you get offended, just find another show. No big whoop. (Unless, of course, you are a soccer mom who believes that your sole opinon will make the rest of the world change. Legions of soccer moms are terrifying, though.)

[ThirdMarioBro]

There is one thing that Fox screwed up on though.

Shaman King. I ignore the show. When it comes on, I go have breakfast, but while on my way out of the room, I heard something. I have video proof of this. In the last new episode they showed, Yoh and that Snow Board dude, were sitting in a hot tub. The Snow board dude (who has Leonardo's voice btw) called Yoh a Jack Ass. I know that I heard that, and checked the tape twice to be sure.
The episode replayed last week at 8:00, and they had taken it out.
That's only the beginning.

[Mondo J. Gecko]

Yeah I've noticed alot of those Warnings of "Mature content and Violence, some viewers mind find offense" thing on the Space Channel(Canadian version of SCI-FI Channel) every time Star Trek (Yeah I watch Star Trek :P ) comes on... I mean its Star Trek... my Dad left us watch that when we were old enough to blink.... but whatever... Censors are stupid....

[Reznorite420]

Ain't nothing wrong with watching Star Trek, bub ;)

[Skeletoncrew]

All I know is that TV needs more nudity. The human body is a beautiful thing (except on Jerry Springer). I need to work on my world domination plans so I can control the airwaves and broadcast more beautiful boobs.

[ThirdMarioBro]

okayyyy... :o

[damnhooligan]

Through all these debates about indecency on American television corrupting children, I've not yet heard one mention of standards on European television. Far more liberal views are taken on nudity and language here (though not violence, generally) and I don't see any huge decline in morality.

Hell, I found out that on certain public channels after 9pm, they show nothing but softcore porn. After the initial shock of "Hey, boobs!" and "Wait, am I paying extra for this?", it just became the norm.

I don't fear the FCC and other American censors dumbing down children's television and Saturday morning cartoons as much as I fear them going after adult programmes that children may be exposed to.

[Barkworm]

Reminds me of how surprised American celebrities are when they are told that they can say "****" on German TV. :lol:

[MW8979]

All these tv censorship activists clearly have way too much time on their hands. Some people need to get a life.

[That Matt Guy]

You have to draw the line somewhere though.

[Barkworm]

You have to draw the line somewhere though.
Of course, but sometimes censoring becomes just too extreme.

[Reznorite420]

Seeing as how I can't delete this post for some reason, move on down...

[Reznorite420]

All I need to work on my world domination plans so I can control the airwaves and broadcast more beautiful boobs.Let's start with yours ;)

Oh, PMs are a wonderful thing, SC my dear

[The Defibrillator]

We all know how 4Kids Entertainment screws up anime by toning it down to the point that no one over the are of 8 cares to watch it.God help ANYONE who watches ANY sort of anime, regardless of age :D

w3rd.

But yeah, there has to be a line drawn somewhere....softcore porn on local television? Let's be reasonable folks, that's takin it a bit to far....

[Anarky]

nope, the unnamed menace from Kaiserslautern is right. there are programmes like that. I get annoyed every day. and on MTV there's nothing but hiphop. so TV sucks over here ('xept from the time when i'm not home).

That's why I'm addicted to Cartoon Network

[Bry]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Anyone who would want the show dumbed-down and kiddified so their toddlers can watch it deserves a good smack upside the head. The concept itself revolves around martial arts action with all sorts of sharp weapons.

See, it's a simple matter of parenting. The show has "Ninja" in the title, and thus it's safe to assume that violence of some sort will be involved. If parents don't want their kids watching violent programming, then it's their job to prevent their kids from watching it. Unfortunately, the majority of parents have proven themselves pretty much entirely lazy and inept.

Though, lucky for us (I guess), the American Censors have always been more concerned with stamping out nudity and sex than violence.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Let's hope it stays that way.

[Gremlin]

Why can't we just force every whining mom to watch Southpark: bigger Longer & uncut. Say what you want about the movie itself but it sure brings up a good point about this whole topic

[jeff the cheff]

All I know is that TV needs more nudity. The human body is a beautiful thing (except on Jerry Springer). I need to work on my world domination plans so I can control the airwaves and broadcast more beautiful boobs.

YAYY!!!!! I agree. :)

Let's start with yours

I agree with that.

[Savanti Romero]

I think the Ninja Turtles and other cartoons are fine and don't need editing how it is right now.

The Super Bowl incident shouldn't have been there though. The Super Bowl is a family thing and they took it to far. They should have drawn the line before that. It's kind of surprising for parents watching the a FOOTBALL GAME with thier infants and young children.

TV does not need more sex or nudity. For anyone who wants it, there is plenty of it on the net or on channels you can buy for your own pleasure.

[Caster_Troy]

Meh. Nipple? Painfully adorned metal nipple? What does it matter. I think that everyone is missing the point here. When Timberlake ripped off her shirt, He had that look. You know, that "my name is Justin Timberlake and I'm flamingly gay" look.

What has this Super Bowl thing really taught us? That Janet has way too much of a pain tolerance in her nipple area? That filming things live when a Jackson is involved can and will end in disaster? That pop music should be beat over the head with a blunt object? That if cheerleaders showed some nipple on national T.V. they could finally stop doing porn on the side to get that ‘movie deal‘? That Justin has a deep appreciation for the sausage?
Maybe it's all of the above.

[host_punktmy]

d all of the above

[Reznorite420]

I The Super Bowl is a family thing and they took it to far.Yeah, there's nothing more family oriented than watching a sporting event full of rough 'n tumble athletes drilling each other into the ground yelling obscenities at their opponents out of range of the microphones, obese middle-aged men painting letters all over their exposed beer guts while waving beer cups, and numerous other fans attacking the other team's fans in the stands at halftime....

Yep, I'd recommend that to Disney any day.

[host_punktmy]

actually that whole thing about fans attacking is mainly a soccer, futball thing. Isn't that pretty big in the uk? I guess that says something about you people in the uk. Not that the US is any better though

[Reznorite420]

Buddy, unless you want to join the 2-Squares-Under-Your-Username club, I'd suggest you knock it off.

[host_punktmy]

like i said not that the US is any better
Most of the countrys in this world are at best messed up

[The Defibrillator]

I The Super Bowl is a family thing and they took it to far.Yeah, there's nothing more family oriented than watching a sporting event full of rough 'n tumble athletes drilling each other into the ground yelling obscenities at their opponents out of range of the microphones, obese middle-aged men painting letters all over their exposed beer guts while waving beer cups, and numerous other fans attacking the other team's fans in the stands at halftime....

Yep, I'd recommend that to Disney any day.

You don't think the Superbowl is family oriented? Families watch it together.....At least in this part of Texas they do.....

[Skeletoncrew]

All I know is that TV needs more nudity. The human body is a beautiful thing (except on Jerry Springer). I need to work on my world domination plans so I can control the airwaves and broadcast more beautiful boobs.

YAYY!!!!! I agree. :)

Let's start with yours

I agree with that.

Awwww...you boys are sweet! :D No. :P I'm the evil overlord, I have to find minions to do my work. That's just the way these things go. :evilgrin:

[Reznorite420]

TMNH: Just because parents take their kids to see something doesn't mean it's "family oriented". If it did mean that, then that would make rated "R" movies "family oriented".

Besides, you missed the joke completely anyway.

Oh, and for the record, I'm not too much of a family man either ;)

[Skeletoncrew]

I wish people would leave their damn kids at home when going to R rated movies (and PG-13 ones for that matter)! I hate being in a theatre with whiney brats. The worst is when someone brings a baby, and it cries, and they don't take it outside!

[Reznorite420]

Well, if you ask me, I think bringing kids to movies rated R or PG-13 is kind of a good thing...it will help the kid develop a sense of what's real and what's not. I speak from experience.

[Caster_Troy]

I agree that just because you let a kid watch something doesn't make it family oriented. But, the truth of the matter is that a lot of kids do watch it, and parents expect it to have a family-type theme, for good or not. That is stupid. But then again, so are a lot of parents where the censorship of their children is concerned. They tend to have the whole “lets not expose children to the naughties of the world because that would be bad” attitude. We all know how that turns out, don’t we, Mr/miss. No-understanding-of-how-society-works?

But that is a whole other rant.

The truth of the matter is that if a kid is going to see nipple, there are easier ways for them to do it then watching the Super Bowl and hoping to see a glimpse of skin. Odds are most kids between the ages of 8 and 13 will have the chance to see one daily, just by surfing the net or going through mommy and daddy's porn stash when no one is looking. In fact, most infants see more nipples then full grown men anyway.

I don't think this issue is an age or family thing at all. I think it has a lot to do with people launching into a panic over nothing. "There was a nipple! Eeek! Controversy!" Big deal. The masses reacted the same way when Elvis thrust his legendary pelvis for the first time on national television.
While Janet is no where near Elvis, it's the same principle. A prude reaction over something small and pointless.

We all have nipples, most of us even have two. They are non-gender specific clumps of nerves that sit over the pectoral muscles and in the case of women, orbs of fatty tissue. Oooh, racy stuff.

Maybe if there wasn’t such a moronic, prude stigma around sex and nudity people would actually be talking about the game that went on in-between the showing of the nipple.

[Reznorite420]

I We all have nipples, most of us even have two.I hope we ALL have 2 :lol:

[Raven]

what do we do if we have a thrid one

[Caster_Troy]

look for someone with three hands or an extra mouth.

[Raven]

damn now where can i, i mean were can they find them...........

[Caster_Troy]

www.threemouths.com ?
See, now, I only have the 2 so I can't help you out. But man, if I had three I'd be all over that like nothing. I mean three nipples? HOT!! lol

[Reznorite420]

A woman called Dallas' local rock station a couple of months ago commenting on her third nipple. Weird.

[Raven]

thats nothing up here, we had some one call up and talk about there fear for the refrigator and the dial tone

[Reznorite420]

Sounds like whoever made that call needs to spend some time in a padded room.

[Caster_Troy]

people in general are just not well, are they? Extra nipples, fear for the fridge... sad, sad, sad.

[Raven]

well a few months ago some ass called me and told me to bail him out of jail from las vegas......i live in minnesota, he threanted to kill me if i didnt so i hung up on.

[Reznorite420]

well a few months ago some ass called me and told me to bail him out of jail from las vegas......i live in minnesota, he threanted to kill me if i didnt so i hung up on.This is the future of our world, people...sad, ain't it?

[host_punktmy]

what about that sex call you got?

[Raven]

what about that sex call you got?

oh ya and a few weeks ago, some people called.....and ....um....there were having sex........ya

[Caster_Troy]

They called you while they were getting freaky? Do you think it was for real, or just some people playing around?

[Raven]

not real sure, but either way it was just creepy and not right

[Caster_Troy]

Yeah, that's just kinda sick... and sad... and funny... :lol:

[Raven]

sad yes........the weird thing it sounded more like some one masterbating.....but at first i thought it was some old lady that had follen down :goofygri:

i was way off

[Caster_Troy]

Maybe it was an old lady? :lol: no for real, that would be creepy though. Did you listen for a while, or just hang up?

[Raven]

i never picked up, they left it on my answering machine.........

[host_punktmy]

how bout that hair sales lady?

[Caster_Troy]

hair sales lady what?

[Raven]

how bout that hair sales lady?

huh?

[Caster_Troy]

I had no idea what you were talking about with the hair sales lady... or even if you were talking to me at all.

[Raven]

i have no idea what hes talking about either

[The Defibrillator]

This chick in my psychology has a mad fear of milk. She said she likes drinking it and it tastes good, but seeing a jug of milk on the counter makes her go into a mad rage and start crying...

[Reznorite420]

And people wonder why I'm so cynical...

[Savanti Romero]

I would pay to see that. :lol:

[Caster_Troy]

you'd have to pay ME to watch.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Me thinks this topic really needs to die. :dead:

[jeff the cheff]

what do we do if we have a thrid one

Go join with Mark Wahlberg. I think he has a third one, so you should both remove the extra nipple so those boobs can come together after all theese years.

[Caster_Troy]

Well I just saw his chest... Marks, I mean. It looked like he only had the 2 nipples... then again, Hollywood make-up people have done cooler things then hide an extra nipple.