Hell is a place on Earth

[Voltron]

So as many of you know my mother is a demon whore. I say this because she beat me mercilessly when I was a child, and when I got old enough to fight back, she switched to mental abuse.

Well the latest stunt my parents pulled has to be their best. Since junior year of Highschool I've been trying to make it into a respectable college. This has always been snatched from my grasp by the Highschool I attended.

Well my parents had rubbed it in my face for a long time now that if I dont get good grades they wouldn't pay for college. I figured with them paying for college I would be set; perhaps a few thousand dollars I'd need to be able to live on my own in college. Because of this I didn't work all that much.

Now my parents told me I can't have money for college, that I have to pay my own way. They literally set me up for this fall, and they love it. So now I have no money and no future.

It's getting ridiculous with these people. Lately they've been bragging about how bad they used to beat and punish me when I was a child.

So, as a result, I've given great consideration to joining the army as of late. It seems more and more like a good idea, as it will get me away from my home and give me money for an education.


I can't begin to tell you what its like to live in this house. Sometimes I think I'm actually in Hell.

[Machias Banshee]

parents like that should be tied to a tree and beaten with a rusty shovel... :sweatdro:


I know you gotta honor your parents and all that, but have you ever talked to anyone about the abuse they put you through? I mean, if theyre frigging BRAGGING about it... damn, that reminds me of my brother's ex-wife/girlfriend. Nothing but trouble...

Use FAFSA, live on your own if you have to. You can get monetary help from the colleges/government, and you can always log onto fastweb.com and go scholarship hunting. It sucks for a while, but if you can get your grades up realy high, and get a couple scholarships/grants, you could still go to college and have a somewhat decent life...


Keep the military as your LAST resort. The chances of you ending up getting sent off somewhere as of now is Really high. We dont want to lose any of our beloved members... :(

[MTN889]

holy **** i know longer know the meaning of depression... go for the army man!

[Voltron]

parents like that should be tied to a tree and beaten with a rusty shovel... :sweatdro:


I know you gotta honor your parents and all that, but have you ever talked to anyone about the abuse they put you through? I mean, if theyre frigging BRAGGING about it... damn, that reminds me of my brother's ex-wife/girlfriend. Nothing but trouble...

Use FAFSA, live on your own if you have to. You can get monetary help from the colleges/government, and you can always log onto fastweb.com and go scholarship hunting. It sucks for a while, but if you can get your grades up realy high, and get a couple scholarships/grants, you could still go to college and have a somewhat decent life...


Keep the military as your LAST resort. The chances of you ending up getting sent off somewhere as of now is Really high. We dont want to lose any of our beloved members... :(

I was considering loans, but I'm aiming for History education and with $40,000 a year its gonna be tough to pay those off.

[Meeko]

Wow thats some sad crap

[WrestlingTurtlesFan4Life]

Dude. I'm so sorry. I kinda know how you feel. My parents control the s*it out of me but they don't abuse me. Though they used to abuse my sister before I was born. My sister had it worse than I do now though. They never let her use the phone. Well.......Since MY car is in my fathers name, I have to do as they say. Theres times when I'm at Sean's till midnight but then DAD changes it and says 10. I don't get it. If I'm with anyone but Sean, they don't care. But If I'm with Sean then they make stuff up. I'm almost constantly yelled at. They would rather have me home and in my room than have me AWAY from them and be happy. I figured that maybe if I'm away from them, they would be more happy and be around eachother and have some "play time". But Nooooooo. When one of them leaves, I'm not told where they are going or when they will be back. Though if Dad ever leaves, he comes home by 8pm. It's weird, if mom leaves to go somewhere, then dad leaves a few minutes later. My parents would disown me if I was a lesbian or went out with a black guy. Thats real stupid. If Dad ever found a reason to yell at me, he'd call me names like "stupid". Though since I have a room upstaires I don't really get bothered since they don't want to walk up here. A few weeks ago when dad called me "stupid" I said to him "Excuse me, but I never insult you! I treat you with respect!" My mom is weak so she can't exactly do that much but whenever I'm home, she doesn't leave me alone. Like one day I was watching "Pirates of the Caribbean" and she comes up to my room with a medical book telling me about the dangers that happen with Birth Control pills! I know what could happen and I don't care. I'm trying to watch Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom for the love of god!


Heres something about Sean incase you wanted to know.....If he didn't go to bed on time when he was little, then he got hit. He used to be abused. Thats what he told me.



Dad does do my oil changes and gives me free gas though and repairs the car if needed. He thinks if he's right, than everyone else is wrong. Since he WAS a Marine, he thinks that he can scare people away by telling them that. His hands shake like a vibrating bed, they never stop. Who's gonna be afraid of a 51 year old, 5 foot 11 inch guy when his hands shake and he had back surgery? NOBODY.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Dude, do NOT join the army! You think your parents are bad, just wait until you have GW Bush controlling every part of your life. If they say "Go jump in front of a bullet for *insert forign government leader here*. You have two choices...

1.Do it, die painful death, then have the government brush it off by saying "He died doing what he loved", or "He died for his country", which is a load of crap. You just did it because of choice number 2 which is....

2. Don't jump in front of bullet, be kicked out of army because you wern't willing to be treated like a disposable humam non bullet proof vest, be stripped of your citizenship, and thrown in prison for rest of your life, with the lowest scum in the world.

This happen to a my friend's friend's uncle. The army will ruin your life, and rub it in your face. They enjoy it, and love to find new suckers to mistreat. Don't do it. You'll regret it.

[That Matt Guy]

Dude, do NOT join the army! You think your parents are bad, just wait until you have GW Bush controlling every part of your life. If they say "Go jump in front of a bullet for *insert forign government leader here*. You have two choices...

1.Do it, die painful death, then have the government brush it off by saying "He died doing what he loved", or "He died for his country", which is a load of crap. You just did it because of choice number 2 which is....

2. Don't jump in front of bullet, be kicked out of army because you wern't willing to be treated like a disposable humam non bullet proof vest, be stripped of your citizenship, and thrown in prison for rest of your life, with the lowest scum in the world.

This happen to a my friend's friend's uncle. The army will ruin your life, and rub it in your face. They enjoy it, and love to find new suckers to mistreat. Don't do it. You'll regret it.

Don't start with that political bulls***t.

Honestly Voltron, if you are going to join a branch of the armed forces, go with the Air Force. They have better opportunities than the Army or Navy.

[Voltron]

Dude, do NOT join the army! You think your parents are bad, just wait until you have GW Bush controlling every part of your life. If they say "Go jump in front of a bullet for *insert forign government leader here*. You have two choices...

1.Do it, die painful death, then have the government brush it off by saying "He died doing what he loved", or "He died for his country", which is a load of crap. You just did it because of choice number 2 which is....

2. Don't jump in front of bullet, be kicked out of army because you wern't willing to be treated like a disposable humam non bullet proof vest, be stripped of your citizenship, and thrown in prison for rest of your life, with the lowest scum in the world.

This happen to a my friend's friend's uncle. The army will ruin your life, and rub it in your face. They enjoy it, and love to find new suckers to mistreat. Don't do it. You'll regret it.

Don't start with that political bulls***t.

Honestly Voltron, if you are going to join a branch of the armed forces, go with the Air Force. They have better opportunities than the Army or Navy.

I appreciate the input.

[Anarky]

I am sooo against armies. for one thing they represent a power greater than imaginable. whoever controls the army controls the country. in 1918 Switzerland had it's "Generalstreik" (all out strike) and nobody worked. "OK", government said, "you strike, we get the army" so it happened and everything went its way again. quite sad actually...
Then: armies f*** with people's minds. either you get a high rank and then you get powermad (what's the correct term for this?) or your mind gets destroyed by higher ranks.

and for swiss military (bunch o' nazis): in switzerland you get offerer better jobs and stuff if you have been in the army. (I know, lots of political bull as matt said...)

so much for my thoughts about the army. as mary said: keep it as your LAST resort. There are other ways of getting money. Th government for example. ask them. what did they ever do for you? it'd be 'bout time...

my two cents, hope i was at least a bit of help...

[Jo Dawn]

Wow, Voltron... I'm sorry. I really am. No one deserves to be treated that way.

I'm really no authority to give any advice on what to do, but I do want you to know that I'm hoping things turn around for you, soon. You have a great thing going for you, to know what you want to do. History education, good for you! Even if you can't get to that right away, it's ok! It took me awhile to get to even KNOW what I wanted to do.

I wish you all the best. :)

[damnhooligan]

My two cents on the whole deal:

Man, you're f*cked. I went through a similar deal with my parents when I got married at the end of my sophomore year in college. Then again, I'd be hardpressed to find parents who would pay for their married independant daughter's tuition. For now, I'm just piling my resources and picking up what online courses I can and independently studying until I'm back at school fulltime.

About the military: Don't join if you're just in it for the college/student loan aspect of it. Plus, you get paid f*ck-all when it comes to what you could be making in the civilian world. I know a plethora of guys who joined for no reason other than that, and honestly, they're ineffectual soldiers, at best.

But on the upside, the Air Force runs the Community College of the Air Force, a (I believe, free or at least minimal cost) college geared for active duty AF service members and the Army runs an online diploma system called EArmyU, which allows Army service members to take courses from real civilian institutions across the US. Plus, if one doesn't royally f*ck up during one's enlistment, they have a far better shot at government/previously restricted jobs thanks to their elevated security clearance when discharged.

I second Matthew's suggestion of the AF having more opportunities, over the Army/Navy. Plus, they're far more lax about hair length, shiny boots and physical training. Sometimes the little things can make a big difference.

*phew* That concludes my rambling. At ease.

[The Defibrillator]

I can't really speak from experience, but I know that my dad was in a similar situation 20 yrs ago. His parents (stepdad mostly) wouldn't pay for his college because they didn't think he needed it. He actually went $20,000 in debt, but he worked part time while he attended school and got as many scholarships as he could. After he graduated he paid the debt off in less than 3 yrs.

I honestly think that the army should be used as a last resort (not for ANY of ThirdMarioBro's reasons), but if worse comes to worse it's not gonna "ruin your life" or anything to join the Air Force.

[Billy the Kid]

Honestly Voltron, if you are going to join a branch of the armed forces, go with the Air Force. They have better opportunities than the Army or Navy.

I would most definitely agree with Matt on that one Voltron. No offense to the other branches of the service, honorable are them all.

Also you may have a case against your parents for intentional infliction of mental or emotional distress (depending on your state) (that would be a pretty funny way to get your parents to pay for college) :evilgrin:

You may also have a breach of contract dispute with your parents - in that you relied upon their promise to your detriment (this is called reliance and can form the basis for a contract even if it is not based on consideration).

Consider all of your options carefully and do some intensive searching for scholarship money (there are thousands of very obscure scholarships out there, but you have to look).

Oh and definitely don't pay someone to look up scholarships for you - it is usually a rip off.

take care.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Frankly Voltron, I would just tell them to screw off, move out, and never talk to them again.

[jeff the cheff]

Maybe write letters to the college telling them your story, and saying how you want to go to school there but you can't afford it. Maybe they will help you out? I dont know if that has ever happened though, just an idea.

[rayfillet101]

Voltron, are you still in high school? If you are go to your guidence counciler or call CCS. They will help u out with the issues. I saw a thing about the army on MTV and the guy joined to get money for college but he never left. Id try and raise you grades or do extracarricular activities, both get you scolorships. Good luck and be strong. :wink:

[Barkworm]

Reading this makes me sooooo grateful that German universities don't cost more than 170 Euro (about 200$) a semester.
I wish you all the best.

[bufo]

Reading this makes me sooooo grateful that German universities don't cost more than 170 Euro (about 200$) a semester.
I wish you all the best.
yeah, my costs are about 1500 euro's a year and then 300 for books that's doable
My parents have been a pain in the ass too, but now I'm outta the house and our relation has really improved.
but it was never as bad as I read here, this really makes me sad. My brother went to the army too because of the same reasons, it was a good move for him...but I don't think you can compare the dutch army with the US army.
I wish you the best of luck anyway