WWE RAW Talkback thread. The RAW/Smackdown! Draft

[GK Punk]

Anyone else watching it so far?

[Peanut]

I am, but what the hell is going on?

[Taloniss]

Random thoughts:

-12 total picks? Weak, they should have just done a mass trade between Raw/SD
-First ever draft? Uh, what about the when they did the roster split? Gotta love revisionist history.
-Biggest shakeup in history? What about the original split?
-"Thank you for your irrelevent opinion" "You really attract a class audience Eric." - Paul Heymen. Paul owns.
-I bet Heymen gets "fired" from SD! Steph comes back to as SD! Gm, and Paul forms the rebel group "ECW" which will get the saturday time slots.
-Predictions: La Resistance, RVD, Booker to SD! Scotty 2 Hotty, Rikisi, and Bradshaw to Raw.
-They should have had the T-shirts on a table and when you got drafted, you pick up a T-shirt to wear all night.

[GK Punk]

Those are Good predictions... I personally am Hoping the two champions stay in place. (Benoit for Raw and Guerro for SD!)

I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens with Evolution, I almost don't see them staying together after this.

I am, but what the hell is going on?

What part are you lost on, the Draft itself or why they are doing the draft?

If it's why they are doing the Draft, it's because BrockLesnar quit, Goldberg's Contract ended, angle is out with Injury so RAW has more Top card superstars than smackdown! And they are trying to even the odds a little better.

I expect to see the main event card be shaken up a little by the end tonight.

[Peanut]

I'm lost on everything. I haven't watched for so long, but god damn...AUSTIN! I didn't even know he was still around. I just might get back into it. Does he still wrestle or is he just hanging around?

[Taloniss]

-Argh, Austin needs to get drafted to a nice retirement home.
-I'm thinking HHH goes to SD! He wants to fued with Edge (that way they don't have to move Edge) and then he has a whole new set of faces to bury, starting with Eddie.
-What happens to FiFi? Does Dupree get her or Conway/Grenier? Is FiFi in the draft pick? Why do I keep asking so many questions?
-I'm all for a Shelton Benjamin push, but do we need to split up tag teams? Couldn't they stay on the same show and be like, "well, we've done all we can as a tag team, lets try to conquer singles" and maintain a friendship in case a singles push bombs?

[GK Punk]

I'm lost on everything. I haven't watched for so long, but damn...AUSTIN! I didn't even know he was still around. I just might get back into it. Does he still wrestle or is he just hanging around?

Austin kinda hangs around right now, his neck is a little too injured to take full bumps. Feel free to ask any questions for things you may have missed, I'll be glad to try and fill in any questions you may have.

-I'm thinking HHH goes to SD! He wants to fued with Edge (that way they don't have to move Edge) and then he has a whole new set of faces to bury, starting with Eddie.

I Wouldn't be too shocked. I just really hate to see Guerro job to HHH so soon >_<

[Taloniss]

Jindrak was a big pick? Jindrak's getting a push? Ugh. And again, why do we need to split up tag teams? Didn't they learn the first draft that single pushes for tag team members fail 99% of the time?

[Taloniss]

Little offtopic, but I just saw a commercial for a Guns N Roses greatest hits album! Must...have...album...

*EDIT* Everybody in the crowd chants Cena whenever Eric goes to choose :)

Yay, Nidia, she's actually been trained to wrestle! More women for the division.

Anyone else notice JR is wearing a blue hankerchief and Tazz has a red one...sign of things to come or coincidence?

[GK Punk]

Jindrak was a big pick? Jindrak's getting a push? Ugh. And again, why do we need to split up tag teams? Didn't they learn the first draft that single pushes for tag team members fail 99% of the time?

lol I know seriously. I kinda like the Bubaray dudley singles push, but it could have been done better.


Little offtopic, but I just saw a commercial for a Guns N Roses greatest hits album! Must...have...album...

You are preaching to the choir my friend!! I Heard there is a DVD either coming out, or already out as well.

[Taloniss]

They didn't say anything about the DVD, but they showed a picture of it, so I guess it comes out with the album. Just checked Amazon.ca, and the CD is listed as out already, so I guess it's out now, or coming this week. Same with the DVD, and the DVD is their music videos.

Cena should go to Raw. His gimmick suits the live atmosphere.

I KNEW IT!!!!! TRIPLE H TO SD!

[GK Punk]

They didn't say anything about the DVD, but they showed a picture of it, so I guess it comes out with the album.

Cena should go to Raw. His gimmick suits the live atmosphere.

I totally agree.... Wait wait wait, HHH Is officially back on Smackdown.
Poor Eddie.

[Taloniss]

Damn, and I'd just read that Eddie was being looked as a long reign since ticket sales went up and WWE thinks he can draw :( So much for that.

Maybe HHH just wants back with Steph in storyline...maybe he's changed! He did job to Benoit....nah, forgot who I was talking about.

HAHA, Raw lockerroom sends off HHH with a touching song. Guess they were tired of being buried and held down too.

[ZariusTwo]

Hunter obviously jumped to SMACKDOWN to be near Stephenie, who is returning probably tonight or on SMACKDOWN this Thursday

Nidia is on RAW, well, THAT was earth-shaterring...

[Taloniss]

Hunter obviously jumped to SMACKDOWN to be near Stephenie, who is returning probably tonight or on SMACKDOWN this Thursday

Nidia is on RAW, well, THAT was earth-shaterring...

I thought Britain didn't get Raw until the Saturday after it aired?

[GK Punk]

I'm with you guys, I'm hoping HHH Is just going to be with his Wife and NOT bury Eddie and other SD! Stars. Eddie has so much potential, and he's come such a long way to be where he is.

[ZariusTwo]

Hunter obviously jumped to SMACKDOWN to be near Stephenie, who is returning probably tonight or on SMACKDOWN this Thursday

Nidia is on RAW, well, THAT was earth-shaterring...

I thought Britain didn't get Raw until the Saturday after it aired?

I'm reading the LIVE report on the internet

[Taloniss]

Hunter obviously jumped to SMACKDOWN to be near Stephenie, who is returning probably tonight or on SMACKDOWN this Thursday

Nidia is on RAW, well, THAT was earth-shaterring...

I thought Britain didn't get Raw until the Saturday after it aired?

I'm reading the LIVE report on the internet

oh. Was just wondering how you knew exactly what was going on as we did.

[GK Punk]

Hunter obviously jumped to SMACKDOWN to be near Stephenie, who is returning probably tonight or on SMACKDOWN this Thursday

Nidia is on RAW, well, THAT was earth-shaterring...

I thought Britain didn't get Raw until the Saturday after it aired?

I'm reading the LIVE report on the internet

Wow, I didn't realize you guys got Raw so much later than us. I wonder why that is :-?

[Taloniss]

EDDIE~! on Raw. And he'll get squashed by HHH already! Didn't take them long.

Well, at least we know that Benoit will still be champ, cuz I don't see them putting the title on Rhyno.

[ZariusTwo]

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!!!

HUNTER VS EDDIE: WWE CHAMPIONSHIP?

NO, NO, NOOOOO, PLEASE GOD DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN...

[GK Punk]

EDDIE~! on Raw. And he'll get squashed by HHH already! Didn't take them long.

Yeah, I pretty muched Groaned the minute they announced that.

[Peanut]

I love Rhyno. RVD and Booker Tag Champs? They must be pretty high energy.

[Taloniss]

I love Rhyno. RVD and Booker Tag Champs? They must be pretty high energy.

RVD and Booker are the best tag team champs in awhile on Raw. And RVD is "high" alright :)

New prediction: If RVD and Booker job to Evolution they are getting drafted/traded. If not, they stay on raw.

[ZariusTwo]

RVD and Booker's entrance music is terrible...worse than RVD himself

[Raven]

man this has been pretty good so far.

I cant believe HHH is on smackdown!!!!!!

[Taloniss]

Evolution is your LISTERINE~! They're the worst that I have seen! Shawn Michaels fears MARINES~!

[ZariusTwo]

NEW TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS

[GK Punk]

I love Rhyno. RVD and Booker Tag Champs? They must be pretty high energy.

RVD and Booker are the best tag team champs in awhile on Raw. And RVD is "high" alright :)

New prediction: If RVD and Booker job to Evolution they are getting drafted/traded. If not, they stay on raw.

Wow did you call that, or did you call that.

You notice they left off "ECW TV Title" Off his Career highlights?

[Taloniss]

I should have bet cash with someone in these trades :( I've been doing decently on the predictions.

Woo, Benoit wins. Although if they went to the trouble of trading Rhyno, presumibly to push him on Raw, why have him jobbing already? They should have fed someone else to Benoit.

Michaels/Benoit? I'm down for that. Should be a good -> great match.

[GK Punk]

I really think they dropped the ball with Rhyno. every chance they've ever had at pushing him, they always just half ass it. It's really a shame.

[Taloniss]

Yep. He was really well handled in ECW and was a decent wrestler back then, and he's gotten better since coming over to WWE. He would make a nice high midcarder for now, possibly a world champ in the future.

Tajiri to Raw! TAJIRI FOR IC CHAMP IN '04!

Teddy Long to SD? Who's he manage? Perhaps as a commentator?

So much for the HHH/Edge fued that Trips wanted so bad. Edge/Benoit would own though.

Spike for cruiserweight division. Should be a nice addition.

Paul to Raw? Steph is so coming back on SD. Paul's gonna quit and form ECW now.

EDGE on Raw! This reeks of awesomeness. He should go back to his dark and brooding persona, like when he first showed up. That would rule.

[ZariusTwo]

EDGE! :sleep:

[GK Punk]

Yep. He was really well handled in ECW and was a decent wrestler back then, and he's gotten better since coming over to WWE. He would make a nice high midcarder for now, possibly a world champ in the future.

Tajiri to Raw! TAJIRI FOR IC CHAMP IN '04!

Teddy Long to SD? Who's he manage? Perhaps as a commentator?

So much for the HHH/Edge fued that Trips wanted so bad. Edge/Benoit would own though.

Spike for cruiserweight division. Should be a nice addition.

Paul to Raw? Steph is so coming back on SD. Paul's gonna quit and form ECW now.

EDGE on Raw! This reeks of awesomeness.

Yep, this all just set it up VERY NICELY for Both Returns. (ECW and Steph)

I look forward to Edge/Benoit, we know it will Happen.

[ZariusTwo]

Well, THAT lottery sucked...

[GK Punk]

Well, THAT lottery sucked...

Yeah, the show itself was pretty good, but the lottery was rather blah.

[EZweasel]

where was undertaker in all of this. the only good thing that happened was edges return! he looked awsum to. i hope he gets a push.

[GK Punk]

where was undertaker in all of this. the only good thing that happened was edges return! he looked awsum to. i hope he gets a push.

I was wondering that myself actually. At the end I was actually a little let down that that austin was the one that came out, and not the 'taker.

Oh, I'm sure Edge will get a huge push shortly after his return!

[Demented Utrom]

Undertaker should have came out at the end and destroy both Rosters with Kane's help.

[cqb101]

Can somebody post a list of who got who? I'm assumin the draft is over now.

[Taloniss]

STATEMENT FROM MR. MCMAHON
Earlier tonight, Paul Heyman - the former General Manager of SmackDown! - was drafted by RAW and subsequently quit. Therefore, due to the absence of a GM on SmackDown!, I have extended the trading deadline to 9 p.m. ET Tuesday, at which time a new GM of SmackDown! will be announced, and that new GM of SmackDown! will in fact announce all trades.
Thank you.

To Raw:
Shelton Benjamin
Nidia
Rhyno
Tajiri
Edge
Paul Heyman (My comment: Quit. Likely forming ECW soon)

To Smackdown:
Rene Dupree
Mark Jindrak
Triple H
Rob Van Dam
Theodore Long
Spike Dudley

I agree, the trade was lackluster given what they could have done. Hopefully they rectify some of those things with the trades tonight.

I'm glad 'Taker didn't come out. Everyone probably would have ran all scared and we don't need everyone on the roster looking like pussies.

[ZariusTwo]

Triple H has been traded BACK to RAW, taking his place are Booker T and The Dudley Boyz

A-Train and Chuck Pulumbo have been traded for Rico and Miss Jackie Gaida

And...

KURT ANGLE IS THE NEW GENERAL MANAGER OF SMACKDOWN

[Taloniss]

Trades (as of 9:23pm EST)

To Raw:
Shelton Benjamin
Nidia
Rhyno
Tajiri
Edge
Paul Heyman (Quit)
Palumbo
A-Train


To SD!
Rene Dupree
Mark Jindrak
Booker T
Rob Van Dam
Theodore Long
Spike Dudley
Bubba Dudley
D-von Dudley
Rico
Miss Jackie

Kurt as a GM could work, but I would have preferred they bring back Regal. That man was pure gold as commishioner and would work better as the fair and impartial GM as opposedto Kurt, who will be heavily biased (based on the fact that he will still a)be a heel and b)wrestle) and it's not like Regal would need to do anything physical, so he could do it.

Overall, I think it's decent, some good could come of it, if they push Shelton, Edge, Booker, RVD & Tajiri. Dear god, they better not pair of Booker T and RVD again. I'm getting tired of random singles wrestlers being thrown into a tag team because creative can't come up with something else for them.

And, I can see Benoit's title slowly slipping from his hand...unless HHH really does wan't to fued with Edge, but I think we all know Trips won't go longer then a few months without his security belt. At least Eddie's safe...unless Taker gets to him....

[azure turtle]

Oh man... Regal as the SD! GM would've ruled so much. I miss that guy. Anyway, I think Kurt can play the role. I'll just have to tune in on Thursday and find out, I guess.

As for the trades, I'm glad to see Rico and Miss Jackie going to SD. Rico can establish himself as a cruiserweight, while Ms Jackie can fued with the non-wrestling divas (since she doesn't seem to be all that great in the ring... how exactly did she win tough enough?).

Anyone else think a Rey Mysterio/Rob Van Dam match would rule??

[Taloniss]

It would be good. Would be even better if it was a gimmick match, like a Ladder match :)

Matches they should do~!

Shelton/Hardy
Shelton/Benoit
Shelton/Tajiri
Shelton/Edge
HBK/Benoit
Hardy/Benoit
Tajiri/Benoit

RVD/Rey
RVD/Eddie
Booker/Eddie
Booker/Angle
Booker/Rey

Oh man, they missed out on doing Benoit/Booker! The history alone justifies a match (Best of Seven fued, plus a few months of fued before that in WCW)

[Peanut]

Can someone give me a rundown of what happened after the first like half hour. My gf had me watch the OC. :roll:

[Taloniss]

Credit: http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/tvreports/article.php?tvreports_id=1526

Backstage, they show all the RAW Superstars in red T-Shirts, then all the SmackDown Superstars in blue T-Shirts. Vince then meets up with Bischoff and Heyman. They way this will work, is there will be a bin of SD names, and a bin of Raw names. Each GM will pick 12 names out of the opposite bin. Then they can make trades. As long as all the transactions are done by midnight.

Intro.

They introduce Bischoff and Heyman to the stage, Heyman will get the first pick. He first addresses the fact that he was attacked by The Undertaker, hence his neckbrace. He says he will deal with UT his own way this week. Heyman then makes the first pick, and reaches into the bin, and pulls out a name. Heyman says that he has broken up a premier group, they then show Flair/HHH/Batista (Orton had a tonsillectomy this past week). He then announces that Rene Dupree will join the SD roster. La Rez’s music plays, and Dupree says his goodbyes to Conway & Grenier.

Tazz and Cole show a tale of the tape on Dupree, and Dupree comes out and gets in the ring. He says that he doesn’t want his last memory in a RAW ring being stunned by Austin. He then calls out any RAW Superstar. Y2J takes the challenge.

Rene Dupree vs. Chris Jericho
Jericho comes out with a purpose. Jericho goes for the Walls quickly, but Dupree gets to the ropes. Dupree drops Jericho, and does his dance, and follows it with a fist drop for 2. Dupree dances again, but Jericho rolls him up. Jericho then hits an ezaguri for the win.
Winner - Jericho

Dupree back on the mic, says that he demands respect, and that he is the French Phenom. Austin’s music hits, kick wham, stunner.

Commercials.

Rico and Miss Jackie in the ring. Bischoff then comes out to make the next pick. Bischoff says that Heyman no longer has to worry about calling them the WGTT, because he has drafted Shelton Benjamin. Kane’s pyro explodes!

Rico (w/ Miss Jackie) vs. Kane
Big Boot, choke slam, pin.
Winner – Kane

Kane gets back up the ramp, and says to Heyman & Bischoff that he doesn’t care what show he is on, as long as he isn’t with Undertaker.

Heyman takes his 2nd pick. He then says that he as broken up another group. He says that he has taken a blue chipper in Mark Jindrak. What the hell….maybe it will be the return of Jindrak & O’Haire?

Commercials.

We come back to Bischoff picking Nidia. Well, I guess they need her for the Woman’s Title. Nidia comes out to the stage, Bischoff presents her with a RAW T-shirt.

Heyman then makes his 3rd pick, but before he can, the Dr. of Thuganomics comes out, rocking a Barry Sanders jersey. Cena then rocks a freestyle, and picks a ball for Heyman. Heyman says that this isn’t his pick, but Bischoff insists that he does. Heyman opens it up, and his pick is HHH! There’s your first big move.

Commercials.

Recap of the irate HHH and Bischoff.

Christian (w/ Trish) vs. Spike Dudley
Spike runs right down the ramp into the ring and jumps Christian. Spike is then distracted by Trish and Christian takes advantage. Spike dumps Christian to the outside, and nails a Crossbody off the top to the floor. Spike then rolls Christian in the ring and climbs the turnbuckle. Christian climbs up as well, and goes for a superplex, but Spike drops him and nails the double foot stomp off the top for 2. Christian then runs Spike’s shoulder to the ring post, and nails the Unprettier for the pin.
Winner – Christian

Bischoff with his next pick..but he flips out and says that it isn’t fair, and he has to find Mr. McMahon.

Commercials.

Bischoff pleading with Vince. Heyman comes in, and says that he has an idea. He says that Eddie Guerrero will defend the WWE Championship against the newest member the SD roster, HHH. Vince wonders if Heyman is crazy, but Heyman explains that this is exactly what Vince would do. He is just protecting his investment, and Eddie may not even be on the show after tonight.

Bischoff then comes out to make his next pick. He says this pick will face Benoit for the title tonight. He then welcome’s the Motor City’s own, Rhyno as pick #3.

Commercials.

Booker T & RVD (c) vs. Batista & Ric Flair – World Tag Team Titles
Booker and Flair start. Back and forth, Flair with a big chop, Batista in. Booker blocks an Irish whip, RVD in. RVD with some quick movements, Crossbody, then a dropkick to the knee. Booker in, double team move for 2. Batista drives Booker to the corner, Flair in. Booker gets Flair in the corner, punches him down, then nails a back body drop. Flair begs off Booker, and pokes Booker in the eyes. Flair goes to the top, but Booker brings him down, Booker gets the tag, and RVD nails the 5*. Batista breaks up the count.

Commercials.

We come back to RVD being dominated. Booker and Batista in, Booker is on fire, taking out Batista with a roundhouse, then chops away in the corner. Booker then nails the Book End, and follows it with the Spinarooni. Booker then with the scissors kick, but Flair breaks up the count. RVD leaps in with a straight kick on Flair, then Rolling Thunder. RVD then springboards towards Batista, but nails Book instead. Batista tosses RVD to the outside, then nails Booker with the Demon Bomb.
Winners – Evolution

Commercials.

Heyman picks and says that he is finally reunited with Mr. Thursday Night, RVD!

Booker and RVD are discussing the title match, and says that they have a rematch clause, so they will get the belts back. Coach comes in, and informs RVD that he just got drafted to SD.

Chris Benoit (c) vs. Rhyno – World Heavyweight Title
Back and forth action to start. Rhyno picks Benoit up for a Powerbomb, but Benoit punches out of it, but lands face first in the turnbuckle. Rhyno then locks on the Sharpshooter. Benoit gets to ropes after a minute or so, Benoit with a waistlock, Rhyno then spins through, and Benoit goes for a Sharpshooter. Rhyno gets to the ropes quickly. Benoit then locks on to Rhyno and nails the Trifecta Germans. Benoit comes off the ropes, but Rhyno nails a huge spinebuster. Rhyno then sets up in the corner for a gore, Benoit moves, Rhyno goes shoulder first in to the turnbuckle, and then right into a Crossface.
Winner – Benoit

Bischoff watching a monitor backstage, and HBK enters. He says that he wants to be traded. Bischoff does one better, and gives HBK a title shot at Backlash.

Commercials.

Slam of the Week: Lita removing Molly’s wig last week.

Bischoff makes his next pick, announcing that Tajiri will join RAW.

Heyman then brings over Theodore Long to SD.

Bischoff then makes his next pick, and it’s EDGE.

Heyman’s final pick is Spike Dudley.

Bischoff then makes his final pick. He says that Vince wasn’t kidding when he said EVERYBODY is in the lottery. He’s last pick is PAUL HEYMAN! HAHAHA. Bischoff laughs, and says that he needs some laundry done, and his car washed. Heyman then says that he doesn’t need this, and he quits.

Bischoff makes his way to the ring, and says that he has withstood 2 GMs on SD, and partnerships with Austin and Foley, only to be back and bigger then ever. Edge’s music hits…and EDGE comes out! Edge hops in the ring, and spears Bischoff! HAHA.

Commercials.

Heyman storms out.

Eddie Guerrero (c) vs. Triple H – WWE Championship
Eddie offers a handshake, but pulls away when HHH extends back. Tie-ups, and shoving start. HHH with a shoulderblock, Eddie then with a hip toss then an arm drag, then a drop toe hold, and locks on the arm, focusing on HHH’s injured arm from WM. HHH fights back, Eddie off the ropes, HHH with a knee to face.

Commercials.

We come back and HHH is manhandling Eddie on the outside. Back in the ring, they got toe to toe, Eddie off the ropes, HUGE back body drop for 2. HHH with a backbreaker, then locks on an abdominal stretch. Ref breaks it when he sees HHH holding the ropes. Eddie fires up, huge dropkick, then a belly to back for 2. Eddie then with a springboard tornado DDT for 2. HHH then with a face to knee, and goes to the top, but falls right into an atomic drop. Eddie then hits the Trifecta Verticals. Batista and Flair come out to distract Eddie. Many other SD and RAW Superstars come out, and the match is tossed out.
No Contest

Then the entire lockerroom empties, and there is a huge see of blue and red T-shirts all brawling to end the show.

[Peanut]

Damn! I love big brawls too! I hate the OC.

[XERO]

Did anyone notice during the big brawl, Austin was beating up one of the RAW members? :lol:

[Lisardo]

I agree the lottery/draft sucked. They didn't trade good enuff ppl IMO. And it kinda sucked how RVD got traded since he and Booker T were tag-team partners. I wished Cena would come to RAW. Might have been cool to have Orton and Kane traded to SD since I can't stand either one of them, and since I like RAW better than SD. I do like SD ok, but I wish they had more superstars on there. Tho I've gotten know more on there. Hey speaking of Teddy Long, what ever happened to Mark Henry on RAW? Geez some of the ppl sit out for a long time. Wonder what Lesner will do since he left SD for the time being. The part where there is that huge riot at the end was hiliarous! Wish the damn tv wouldn't have cut it off so soon! I kinda hope they have RAW/SD lotteries more often, like maybe once a year or something (I guess not too often, but often enuff so that RAW/SD stars can try out being on diff shows and fighting diff ppl). Let's see what happens on SD tonight.

[R-iZZy]

You know what's REALLY pissing me off? NOT SEEING RHYNO GET THAT F'N PUSH HE DESERVES!!! I'm sick of them jobbing Rhyno. Sh*t is getting seriously on my nerves now.

[Taloniss]

Hey speaking of Teddy Long, what ever happened to Mark Henry on RAW?

Henry's injured, he'll be back in about 3 months.

Wonder what Lesner will do since he left SD for the time being

Lesner quit WWE, he's trying to make it in the NFL.

[ZariusTwo]

Wonder what Lesner will do since he left SD for the time being.

He's gone for good, he said he did'nt want to be part of a "fake sport" and hated the pressures of travel.

[Taloniss]

Wonder what Lesner will do since he left SD for the time being.

He's gone for good, he said he did'nt want to be part of a "fake sport" and hated the pressures of travel.

He'll be back. He'll realize that he can't make it in the NFL and come crawling back for the cash.

[ZariusTwo]

Wonder what Lesner will do since he left SD for the time being.

He's gone for good, he said he did'nt want to be part of a "fake sport" and hated the pressures of travel.

He'll be back. He'll realize that he can't make it in the NFL and come crawling back for the cash.

And it's going to take...what? five years before anyone will cheer him again?

[Taloniss]

Wonder what Lesner will do since he left SD for the time being.

He's gone for good, he said he did'nt want to be part of a "fake sport" and hated the pressures of travel.

He'll be back. He'll realize that he can't make it in the NFL and come crawling back for the cash.

And it's going to take...what? five years before anyone will cheer him again?

Austin did basically the same thing and he was cheered right away.

The majority of fans won't know that he said he doesn't like pro wrestling, the only reason WMXX's chants happened is that New York is a predominatly 'smart' crowd, and they knew both were leaving. Any other areana I don't see that happening.

How fans percieve him when/if he comes back will be based on a)how long he's gone and b)how the WWE promotes his return

[GK Punk]

...Did anyone watch the Replay of this on Spike TV?

Is it just me, or when Edge came out, did they replace "Never Gonna Stop" with his old theme... I could swear on the LIve RAW it was "Never Gonna Stop" that he came out too...

[Ryan]

...Did anyone watch the Replay of this on Spike TV?

Is it just me, or when Edge came out, did they replace "Never Gonna Stop" with his old theme... I could swear on the LIve RAW it was "Never Gonna Stop" that he came out too...

Well, I remember last Monday, I was humming the tune to Never Gonna Stop" - but I did not watch the replay, so they may of changed it, I really do not know.

Ryan

[Lisardo]

Speaking of the draft lottery, I'm glad RVD and Booker T got transferred to SD, cuz I'm going to SD tonight here in Indy! Geez they said on the radio that SD hasn't been to Indy in over a year, and it will have been like 15 years since I've gone to an acutal wrestling event! So because of that, I'm excited about going. I get to see the RVD vs. Booker T match :) Also I'm glad to see the Dudleys all on SD, esp. Spike since he really belongs there, being a cruiser weight.

[Dr. Doom]

That 4 on 4 match on raw this week was probably onna the best I've seen in a while (granted I haven't seen ANY PPVs)

[Lisardo]

I agree. That match rocked, and I'm soooooo glad Evolution for once didn't win.

[ZariusTwo]

Watch SMACKDOWN this Thursday...it's seriously messed up

[Taloniss]

Spoilers for Smackdown below. Read at own risk.















Why did Big Show kill Kurt Angle? It sounds like he has a broken skull and leg. Oh well, it's not like WWE hasn't no sold death before. Kane's come back from a fire pit, and major car crash (limo into semi) and HHH has come back from his car getting dropped from 15 - 20 feet in the air. Not to metnion WCW letting Giant fall off a roof, and come back an hour later. Kurt should be perfectly healthy by next week :lol:

And why did Nunzio pat Hass on the butt? I thought only Rico was had that gimmick.

And, goody, Bradshaw in the Main Event of a PPV. I can't wait! :sleep:
Whatever the writers were on this week, I think I'd like some.

[Lisardo]

Wait, how are you Taloniss able to see Smackdown before Thrus.? With me I can understand for this one time cuz I went to SD last night in my hometown Indy. Unless you live in Indy too and went to it, or the outcome was posted online already. Otherwise I dunno how you already watched it. I know sometimes for some ppl in some areas tv programs (from a previous broadcast) are shown at different times then the normal scheduled time. But still, I'm alittle confused.

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Yeah I was wondering about that too, with how Bigshow seems to have killed Angle. Don't know if he did it deliberately or not. Gotta see more on that. Was alittle confused about the RVD and Booker T match. I guess RVD was counted out since I heard a bell (which at first thought was a disqualification bell) then I heard Booker T's music. Didn't hear the commentary yet so not sure 'exactly' what happened with everything. Hey does John Cena always wear a jersey t-shirt with the city/state that he's in? I noticed he proudly wore an Indiana shirt last night, being in Indiana obviously. Boy him and Eddie were the showstoppers last night, they came out and riled up the place several times! I had a good time last night, can't believe it's been that long since I've been to a wrestling event. Well I'll get the details tomorrow when I watch it I guess.

[Dr. Doom]

Wow, that was stupid.

[Taloniss]

Wait, how are you Taloniss able to see Smackdown before Thrus.?

I read the spoilers every Wednesday to know if the show is worth watching or not.

[Lisardo]

When I went to the site they didn't have any info up till after Thrus. after it aired.

[Taloniss]

When I went to the site they didn't have any info up till after Thrus. after it aired.

wwe.com? They never post spoilers because they try to say it's live. I get it off other sites.

[Lisardo]

Oh I see. What sites do you check?

What kinda pissed me off alittle is how SD didn't air the last part. They cut it off like 10 min's early! I think this particular week they did it on purpose by having way too many commercial breaks and not showing enuff of the show. That's one nice thing about going to them live, you get to see everything.

[Taloniss]

Alot of stuff is planned for off air, to test reactions and give a little something extra to fans who actually go to events.


I check www.wrestlingobserver.com for rumours/spoilers and www.wrestlecrap.com to relive some of the stupid stuff over the years.

You have to take all the rumours with a grain of salt, but that's why they're rumours.

[Brodie]

Wow, that was stupid.

Yeah.

[revolutiontransmission]

prowrestling.com is usually pretty reliable...just make sure you have a pop-up blocker or you'll throw your mouse through your monitor. ive been a long time wrestling fan and im trying to hang on, they keep doing little things here and there to keep me watching...and sometimes they'll havea a great, bust out PPV which always revives much hope and keeps it strong in someways, but its tough sometimes...with their being no competion for the past few years. best things WWE has going now is Randy Orton and basically all of the 4 horsema...or i mean Evolution, John Cena (see avatar), eddie guerreo's and benoit's recent pushes. if they'd just get rid of like 20 guys and combine the shows again..having a US title, IC title, Cruiserweight, and all of that is cool but two world champions and two tag championships is STUPID !!!! Bring Back the Attitude Era PLEASE

[That Matt Guy]

Bring back La Parka.

[Dr. Doom]

BRING BACK THE BLUE MEANIE, X-PAC & RAVEN!!!

[Dr. Doom]

Ok, I feel bad for Rico. Really bad. He's an Ex-Cop and the the former champion of American Gladiators, but he's been reduced to little more than a circus clown (a gay one, at that) at this point with his current gimmick. I can picture him going home every night after a show and just sobbing, saying "What have I done with my life?!".

























I was laughing at that match last night tho...........

[Dr. Doom]

AbsoluteBeetle: i realy wish rvd would be a clam

Tobias Fenrir: Rob Van Clam

AbsoluteBeetle: yes lol

AbsoluteBeetle: id actually like him then

Tobias Fenrir: lmao





XD!!!

[EZweasel]

AbsoluteBeetle: i realy wish rvd would be a clam

Tobias Fenrir: Rob Van Clam

AbsoluteBeetle: yes lol

AbsoluteBeetle: id actually like him then

Tobias Fenrir: lmao





XD!!!

lol it is so sad that the only way rvd would be any good is if he was rob van clam (rvc)

[Dr. Doom]

-=Pictures the Van Claminator, giggles=-