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I respect everyone's opinion and if you like the movie, that's great.
That said, this movie just doesn't do anything for me. :( Being a TMNT fan and seeing TMNT movie is about wanting to see the people who are making the film put their love and passion into this movie they care about. I felt none of that. I only felt their passion and caring about making another dollar, and it's a shame because this is the 30th Anniversary of Turtles for crying out loud and now I'm a part of investing into it a product made by people who only care about the green, and I'm not talking about the color of the Turtles. |
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You might have a low reading comprehension level. I am offering my opinion to someone by putting that person's quote in my post. So I'm not sure where the confusion is. It's not my problem that you cannot comprehend. I have not told anyone their opinion is wrong. I offer my opinion in hopes to maybe change theirs. As I hope by reading other's opinions that my own will be changed. My opinions have been altered many times the last few days by healthy discussions with some people. Then there are others who simple just repeat bland statements and offer no real opinion or explain their gripes. If you want me to start every thought I have by "in my opinion" then you might want to put me on mute because I will not treat you like a baby and spoon feed you. If you cannot handle healthy debates, then I suggest you go elsewhere. |
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Super hero movies don't have to be Nolan-esque to be good. In fact we've all seen what happens when you try to hard to make a super hero dark in Man of Steel.
Guardian's of the Galaxy was goofy fun. Avengers has a paper-thin story but all the characters playing off each other made it a delight for me. The original Iron Man didn't have a particularly interesting villain and was still a great flick. The Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies are campy as hell and the first two are still highly regarded. All it takes for these movies to work is to have people working on them that give a crap. I will give them props for doing a decent job with the turtles when they were around. The scenes when they were growing up were cute and the only thing out of character was Mikey's fixation on April. Otherwise they got the personalities down. Still hardly felt like you got a chance to get to know them though. |
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I offer opinions like EVERY other person here is doing. But when people say things like the turtles don't appear for 45 minutes, or April is the protagonist, I can use facts, because I saw the movie, and say no, they appear in the first 10 minutes, and no April is not the protagonist. I state an opinion and back it up with things that actually happened in the movie. You attacked me by saying I'm stating facts. Then when I say I'm offering opinions, you turn around and say, well why even post an opinion with out facts. Which is it? Again, I think (this is an opinion, see? I said "I think", so this won't be a fact, it's just my thought. Ok?) you are confusing confidence in my opinion and fact claiming as one in the same. I'm not just spewing the same phrases like a lot of people here do like "no plot, cliche villains, shredder was pasted in last minute" and offer no other explanations to their complaints. |
How is April not the lead protagonist?
She is the driving force of the story, is present in the majority of scenes and has the most personal victories throughout. She finds the turtles, she figures out why they exist, she figures out why and how her father died, she gets to take down Sacks and even gets a few licks in on The Shredder. It's not as blatant as Transformers when it comes to taking the focus away from the title characters but you can't honestly believe this movie did not focus on April. |
April was obviously the main character in the movie.
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Just saw it near an US Airbase in Ramstein. German release is in 2 months... Movie was awesome as hell!!! The 3D was impressive, since me and my girlfriend sometimes twinkled because of eome flying objects. Will watch the german release again.
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I think they were trying to re-create the 1990 movie by having them be in the shadows at first and be a mystery. Only problem is, we all know what they are and who they are. I think if this ever gets rebooted they should throw out that whole mysterious beginnings to them, just do a straight origin like Spider-Man, Daredevil, Green Lantern, Man of Steel all did which is just show them right off the bat. If you do the Hamoto Yoshi origin, just start from there, no flash backs, only do a flash forward after setting up the story. |
You're right, Sacks and Shredder don't care about her. Not after she leads them to the turtles. They need the turtles for their plan, not her.
There's a hint of her emotions toward her father when she's watching the old videos but that's yet another element this movie just throws out there and doesn't do much of anything with. The Amazing Spider-Man was somewhat guilty of that as well but you at least got to see Peter bitter about the whole ordeal with his parents and Aunt May gripping with burden of thinking Richard Parker did something deplorable. You do not get any of that kind of emotional interest here. This movie introduces a lot of ideas and does not flesh them out. It was neat to hear Sacks grew up in Japan, how about you do something with that? Why is he Shredder's pupil? We apparently do not need to know that either. There is probably a very obvious reason why those elements of the story feel incomplete and I think we all know what it is. They kept the story simple. That's fine. But give the audience more of a reason to care and even a simple story can resonate well. |
This thread reminds me of the way Star Wars fans tore each other new ones over whether or not The Phantom Menace was any good when it first came out. :lol:
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In retrospect, I kinda feel like Shredder : TMNT (2014) :: Bane : Batman and Robin |
The video game all but confirms that to be the case though it might have been working off an early draft of the script and certainly deviates from the story.
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My biggest gripe with the movie is that it's too fast, it's too short. There are a lot of things they could have fleshed out and didn't because they wanted to make it short. I still understood the plot and it wasn't confusing to me, so that's why I just don't completely believe people who claim it was a disaster. I think what they left in, creates a unique bond between April and the Turtles who historically get in a lot of trouble together, and now that they have a close bond, it will mean something if she REALLY gets in trouble next film. I hope in the next one Sacks kidnaps her and threatens to mutate her or something like that, forcing the Turtles to fight Shredder and hopefully some mutants we want from da past. I would kind of like it to get back to the 1990 scale of a secret war between the Foot and the Turtles, and not so much a plot to destroy the city. |
To say that sachs did not care about april, is wrong, I mean he did mind her once she and vernon tried to stop him. Hench him pointing a gun at not just vernon, but her as well. He cared enough to go as far as even trying to kill her.
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