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Autbot_Benz 01-14-2021 09:45 AM

Playmates Turtles and Villians box sets reissues of the same molds again
 
Turtles

https://i.imgur.com/YqZ6Z29.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DtLd6kl.jpg

Villains
https://i.imgur.com/HYhCL1O.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IBzXKQ0.jpg

IMJ 01-14-2021 10:05 AM

100 dollar boxes for addicts. This isn't even completist solicitation anymore. :lol:

frank_one 01-14-2021 10:29 AM

Why is the villains set more expensive? Shredder is in the wrong set :)
$15 or $16 a figure is still a good price nonetheless.

I'm waiting for mikey0 to explain me what the oversized roto heads are about, again.

mikey0 01-14-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1876321)
Why is the villains set more expensive? Shredder is in the wrong set :)
$15 or $16 a figure is still a good price nonetheless.

I'm waiting for mikey0 to explain me what the oversized roto heads are about, again.

I was honestly surprised to see Baxter Stockman in the Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set. The last Baxter reissue came with a trading card and it was sold in the mid 1990s. :o

Also, the Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set will be the first box set to have a Slash with an oversized rotocast head!

Unfortunately, collectors with the retro figures will skip the figures from both sets and wait for the box sets to go up for sale in the aftermarket.

Playmates used less plastic to make the heads of the action figures for the exclusive Retro Rotocast Sewer Lair Box Set and Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set. The oversized heads to the figures weigh less than the hard heads from the very late 80s into the 90s because they were made from a liquid form of plastic that is less expensive to use.

The Krang in the Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set will be the first Krang in history to have a squishy head.

I wish Playmates would make a MOTU Origins-type TMNT toyline, but I’m happy to see that Playmates is making boxes with adult collectors in mind. Too bad Playmates cannot fill the boxes with reissues of hard-to-find figures from the original toy line.

mikey see 01-14-2021 10:52 AM

Once more, with(out) feeling.

It's just sad at this point.

The Turtle Terminator 01-14-2021 10:56 AM

If there’s one time Playmates know how to do, it’s regurgitate the same formula repeatedly until the money dries up, even the money hasn’t come in the first place

frank_one 01-14-2021 11:05 AM

mikey0, these means these are softheads??

mikey0 01-14-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1876329)
mikey0, these means these are softheads??

Yes, these are soft heads made from the same material used for some vinyl toys.

Shredder should have been in the Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set over Slash. I guess it was Playmates bright idea to have adult collectors buy the Retro Rotocast Sewer Lair Figure Set or SDCC 2020 exclusive then the Retro Rotocast Mutant Module Figure Set.

I agree with Pixel Dan. The Original Comic Book Collection box set has been the best box set by far and large. If Playmates is going to cater to adult collectors with reissues, they should, at least, give the figures and accessories new paint jobs and improvements.

Oculus Orbus 01-14-2021 12:37 PM

I've been meaning to track down some of the original Playmates, but I might just get these instead. I'm glad Playmates is keeping these toys available for those of us that don't necessarily care about owning the vintage ones.

Now, I don't know that I fully comprehend mikey0's explanation about the roto heads (sorry!). When they say oversized, does that mean their heads will be disproportionately big compared to how they were back in the day, like a bobble-head kind of thing? I know the difference would be subtle, but I don't know if that's the case.

mikey0 01-14-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oculus Orbus (Post 1876336)
I've been meaning to track down some of the original Playmates, but I might just get these instead. I'm glad Playmates is keeping these toys available for those of us that don't necessarily care about owning the vintage ones.

Now, I don't know that I fully comprehend mikey0's explanation about the roto heads (sorry!). When they say oversized, does that mean their heads will be disproportionately big compared to how they were back in the day, like a bobble-head kind of thing? I know the difference would be subtle, but I don't know if that's the case.

I have not seen any reviewers do size comparisons between the SDCC 2020 set and the vintage figures. I imagine the heads are 1/16th more than 1 inch.

There are some great pictures of the SDCC 2020 retro rotocast 6-piece action figure set in this auction on the Bay: https://www.ebay.com/i/193755043350?...MaArsFEALw_wcB

Walkabout 01-14-2021 01:24 PM

Let me get a couple of things straight here...

A) "oversized roto heads" is a selling point?

B) will this version of Raph and Leo be that off colour again?

I might consider getting a villains box purely for the Foot Soldier and accessories.

mikey0 01-14-2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 1876343)
Let me get a couple of things straight here...

A) "oversized roto heads" is a selling point?

B) will this version of Raph and Leo be that off colour again?

I might consider getting a villains box purely for the Foot Soldier and accessories.

A) That is correct. The oversized rotocast heads are what sets apart these box set figures from most of the originals. These are hollow like the fan club form figures from mid 1988.

B) Sadly, this basic Raph and Leo will not be all that different from the Classic Collection Retro set figures, Gamestop exclusive Classic 1988 Action Figure 4 Pack, and SDCC 2020 exclusive. The best basic Raph and Leo reissues were released in the 90s and late 2000s (25th Anniversary Edition).

Getting the Retro Rotocast Villains Mutant Module Figure Set for the Foot Soldier and accessories is a good idea. Make sure you store those rotocast figures in a cool environment because all six figures are soft heads. You want the plastic to harden and the oversized heads not to shrink.

IMJ 01-14-2021 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey see (Post 1876325)
Once more, with(out) feeling.

It's just sad at this point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Turtle Terminator (Post 1876327)
If there’s one time Playmates know how to do, it’s regurgitate the same formula repeatedly until the money dries up, even the money hasn’t come in the first place

Everytime an addict... errr... fan buys these things they are enabling the market on them.

indy1936 01-14-2021 03:28 PM

I still don't follow the over-sized roto heads. I understand the material and how roto-casting works but what is the purpose of making the heads appear to be slightly larger than vintage? Why not make their heads the same size as the original soft head release? These slightly larger heads almost seem like a failed attempt at making new soft-head releases. Like Playmates tried to match the original release but the heads somehow came out a bit too large? Kind of like the failed Mattel attempt with the commemorative MOTU figures in 2000 where the heads were soft but less detailed/deformed/wrong size. I could see the appeal if they were an exact match size wise to vintage soft heads. It's like these heads are too big but only slightly. None of the sdcc 2020 set reviewer videos I've seen comment on the heads being larger than vintage. But you can see it in the videos. Especially on Mike and Don.

frank_one 01-14-2021 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey0 (Post 1876341)
There are some great pictures of the SDCC 2020 retro rotocast 6-piece action figure set in this auction on the Bay: https://www.ebay.com/i/193755043350?...MaArsFEALw_wcB

Thank you. I can definitely see the bigger heads now. They look wrong, not sure to understand what Playmates is aiming at.

mikey0 01-14-2021 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by indy1936 (Post 1876362)
I still don't follow the over-sized roto heads. I understand the material and how roto-casting works but what is the purpose of making the heads appear to be slightly larger than vintage? Why not make their heads the same size as the original soft head release? These slightly larger heads almost seem like a failed attempt at making new soft-head releases. Like Playmates tried to match the original release but the heads somehow came out a bit too large? Kind of like the failed Mattel attempt with the commemorative MOTU figures in 2000 where the heads were soft but less detailed/deformed/wrong size. I could see the appeal if they were an exact match size wise to vintage soft heads. It's like these heads are too big but only slightly. None of the sdcc 2020 set reviewer videos I've seen comment on the heads being larger than vintage. But you can see it in the videos. Especially on Mike and Don.

Playmates lost some money after the Rise of the TMNT, Ben 10, and Power Players toylines bombed. The oversized rotocast heads are cheaper to make. I miss the 2013 to 2016 Classic Collection Retro figures and GameStop exclusive Classic 1988 Action Figure 4 Pack from 2019 already. I hope the Movie Star Collection box set does not have figures with oversized roto heads in it.

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1876365)
Thank you. I can definitely see the bigger heads now. They look wrong, not sure to understand what Playmates is aiming at.

You’re more than welcome, frank_one. I’m with you, the roto heads are off (especially Leonardo). The rubber heads are too big. All six figures look like bootlegs of the originals.

cloud 01-14-2021 04:04 PM

I didn't get the SDCC box set so this is good news for me.
Going to see if my comic store can place an order for these sets.
I don't have much attachment to reproduction of the vintage figures. I'll be happy with these 2 box sets.

They might get some more purchases from me if they do a box set of Toon Turtles and storage shell Turtles.
I love the storage shell sculpts.

cloud 01-14-2021 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indy1936 (Post 1876362)
I still don't follow the over-sized roto heads. I understand the material and how roto-casting works but what is the purpose of making the heads appear to be slightly larger than vintage? Why not make their heads the same size as the original soft head release? These slightly larger heads almost seem like a failed attempt at making new soft-head releases. Like Playmates tried to match the original release but the heads somehow came out a bit too large? Kind of like the failed Mattel attempt with the commemorative MOTU figures in 2000 where the heads were soft but less detailed/deformed/wrong size. I could see the appeal if they were an exact match size wise to vintage soft heads. It's like these heads are too big but only slightly. None of the sdcc 2020 set reviewer videos I've seen comment on the heads being larger than vintage. But you can see it in the videos. Especially on Mike and Don.

I think to be consistent with this retro re-releases and possibly as mentioned cost a bit less. But depending on the material, maybe fun to have something slightly different than the vintage toy

Oculus Orbus 01-14-2021 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey0 (Post 1876368)
The oversized rotocast heads are cheaper to make.

I get that rotocast soft plastic heads are cheaper to make, but why oversized?

mikey0 01-14-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Oculus Orbus (Post 1876373)
I get that rotocast soft plastic heads are cheaper to make, but why oversized?

Something must have happened to the original head molds from the 80s and 90s in late 2019 or 2020. I believe Playmates tried to make up for the deteriorating heads molds by making new larger ones.


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