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RaphaelinSTL 06-08-2023 09:01 AM

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The new mode will bring a fresh twist to fighting the Foot Clan, introducing new Foot Soldier variants, wild new locales, kooky character cameos, and hazards that will keep players on their toes.

By introducing the new gameplay mode, we aim to provide players with a new opportunity for cooperative play. Playing with a group is an important aspect of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles experience, and it was important to enhance that aspect by offering new ways to enjoy the game together. We hope this new mode will bring even more enjoyment and excitement to the game, and we look forward to sharing it with our dedicated fan base.
So this quote makes me a little nervous that the new game mode is essentially what the Mr. X Nightmare DLC from SOR4 was—a rush of characters to fight in different static background areas.

It was fun for what it was and I sunk a lot of time into it, but if you messed up and didn't get a better score it didn't feel very rewarding, haha.

While the backgrounds and environments look super fun, it makes sense with it being called Dimension Shellshock in that you travel to different Dimensions (static backgrounds) with different characters in the background probably each time with a variety of baddies to fight.

Hoping I'm wrong as I just want more additional stages and stories, haha. Either way, playing as additional characters like Usagi and whoever else gets revealed and leveling them up is a damn treat.

RaphaelinSTL 06-08-2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1964710)
They also confirmed the DLC is all about Usagi, so I don't think we'll be visiting other dimensions too much, focus is on Miyamoto's world.

Moreso from that interview I read it as they were focused on him as a reveal first! I think the Dimensions looked pretty expansive from the shots they showed (all those retro NES looking areas, haha) but we'll have to see!

TigerClaw 06-08-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1964710)
Yeah looks like oldmanwinters is correct and it's only a new single screen battle royale rush mode or something so it's best to line up our expectations so no one is disappointed that there's no new levels in a new campaign. Still it should be fun and I'm happy it's happening.

They also confirmed the DLC is all about Usagi, so I don't think we'll be visiting other dimensions too much, focus is on Miyamoto's world. On twitter they did confirm there's more playable characters so I'm guessing that they'll be from Usagi's world as well. I do think there'll be a new story mode but it won't be super long.

But the fact we have characters from the archie comics is saying something, This is first time Ninjara appears in anything outside of the comics, Even if just a background character, Its still quite a huge deal for some including myself.

This might also mean something was worked out over the Ninjara rights, Because we all know that Alopex was a character that was modeled after Ninjara when the rights to her didn't carry over when Viacom bought the IP.

Andrew NDB 06-08-2023 10:03 AM

If you look closely at the trailer there is footage of NON-single "splash" screen looking areas. Areas that are clearly meant to be horizontally scrolled by as you move. But these areas don't look too exciting. Like at :38.

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1964714)
This might also mean something was worked out over the Ninjara rights, Because we all know that Alopex was a character that was modeled after Ninjara when the rights to her didn't carry over when Viacom bought the IP.

I don't think that's true at all. They were able to use all of Steve Murphy's creations except for Ninjara? What would possibly make her a special case, legally? I think IDW just thought the name "Ninjara" was stupid but they liked the general idea of her.

CyberCubed 06-08-2023 10:28 AM

Yeah I don't think these are full new stages. Basically single screen boss rush/battle royale type stuff. Ah well.

We probably have to wait for a sequel for all new levels.

WrectchedReptile 06-08-2023 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1964715)
If you look closely at the trailer there is footage of NON-single "splash" screen looking areas. Areas that are clearly meant to be horizontally scrolled by as you move. But these areas don't look too exciting. Like at :38.



I don't think that's true at all. They were able to use all of Steve Murphy's creations except for Ninjara? What would possibly make her a special case, legally? I think IDW just thought the name "Ninjara" was stupid but they liked the general idea of her.

I had always heard that they were wary of Ninjara because they didn't want to be associated with her appearances in furry comics or possibly the Mirage created porno with her.

Andrew NDB 06-08-2023 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WrectchedReptile (Post 1964753)
I had always heard that they were wary of Ninjara because they didn't want to be associated with her appearances in furry comics

Those were harmless, though. I don't remember any sexuality there at all, just R-rated violence.

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or possibly the Mirage created porno with her.
Well, all the Turtles and Splinter and April would be off-limits, then!

neatoman 06-09-2023 06:44 AM

Wouldn't those furry comics be evidence that Murphy owned her though?

IMJ 06-09-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1964779)
Wouldn't those furry comics be evidence that Murphy owned her though?

:o I didn't know that Ninja Turtles "furries" comics were made.... OMG wtf? :teek:

oldmanwinters 06-09-2023 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1964786)
:o I didn't know that Ninja Turtles "furries" comics were made.... OMG wtf? :teek:

Never had any "Ninja Turtles" copyright or trademark notices that I'm aware of, but...
http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2012/...rlough-47.html
http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2012/...rlough-48.html
http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2012/...rlough-52.html

Only ran three chapters inside an anthology furry "themed" book, but sadly never finished its own story, whatever it might have been.

IMJ 06-09-2023 10:50 AM

facepalms

Well. I'm more educated about what is out on the market now than I was before. So there's that at least.

Shark_Blade 06-09-2023 06:22 PM

USAGI??? Yesssss :tlove:

Xav 06-10-2023 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1964895)
Can you guys imagine if they do visit other dimensions and we have a mini level based on The Next Mutation? Dragonlord, Venus, Dr. Quease all in a video game finally. The only version of the turtles to never get a video game. As a little kid I always wanted a N64 turtles game with venus and never got it.. Now that she's back in canon in IDW, we know she's not off limits.

Well there was a LCD Next Mutation game if that counts.

Andrew NDB 06-10-2023 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1964895)
Can you guys imagine if they do visit other dimensions and we have a mini level based on The Next Mutation? Dragonlord, Venus, Dr. Quease all in a video game finally. The only version of the turtles to never get a video game. As a little kid I always wanted a N64 turtles game with venus and never got it.. Now that she's back in canon in IDW, we know she's not off limits.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E70QMv4X...png&name=small

We actually don't know that she's not off limits. IDW changed Venus considerably and I'm not even sure if she's Mei Pieh Chi at all? Could be they had to change her at least 50% to legally use her.

CyberCubed 06-10-2023 04:44 PM

Considering we're already getting Archie characters as background cameos, if they do a sequel they'll definitely do an Archie universe game. It makes sense too, the Archie series looks the most similar to the original cartoon universe and to casual fans they wouldn't know or think it's any different. You can even still use Shredder, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, etc if you want.

Tournament Fighters already mixed in Archie characters with the original universe given we got Armaggon, War, the Archie version of Wingnut, etc. So this would be the same.

Sumac 06-10-2023 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1964924)
Tournament Fighters already mixed in Archie characters with the original universe given we got Armaggon, War, the Archie version of Wingnut, etc. So this would be the same.

Which was always awkward to me, since FW has a lot of characters on its own and Konami had a weird idea to bring most "Who?" characters from Archie series.
Like, who knows or gives a **** about War? Wingnut? Hothead? Why not to bring in Bebop and Rocksteady? Groundchuck and Dirtbag? Scumbug or Anthrax? Nope, let's make new character Sysyphus.

At least they brought OG Karai into a spotlight, before she was infantilized into Shredder's daughter.

Andrew NDB 06-10-2023 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1964955)
Unpopular opinion in online communities because you get hardcore American turtle fans but the Archie comic is niche even in the US

That's not an unpopular opinion, that's just plain factually incorrect. At its height the Archie series was selling nearly 200,000 copies a month. IDW and even Mirage are "niche" compared to the success and audience TMNTA had.

Sumac 06-11-2023 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1964958)
That's not an unpopular opinion, that's just plain factually incorrect. At its height the Archie series was selling nearly 200,000 copies a month. IDW and even Mirage are "niche" compared to the success and audience TMNTA had.

Still, I don't think that War and Wingnut are the most popular or known characters from it.

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1964955)
Unpopular opinion in online communities because you get hardcore American turtle fans but the Archie comic is niche even in the US, besides that I think the comic only released in a few other countries, Canada, Mexico, UK. And I'm guessing it was even more niche in those other countries.

Part of the series was published in Russia either as separate magazine and some issues were included in other publication, like some video game magazines.
Though I don't think it was legal.

CyberCubed 06-11-2023 10:32 AM

I actually liked the more unique roster in the Tournament Fighters games, it felt like they were trying to do something different. I was introduced to Armaggon via the game before I read the Archie comics he was in, and I thought it was cool there was a shark mutant I had never seen before.

In the NES version I knew who Hothead was due to the Playmates toy, so that was fine. Genesis had Man Ray, a Triceraton, Karai, etc...so it was a nice mix of characters we don't usually get. Also Chrome Dome was only ever in Tournament Fighters, he was never a boss in any of the classic games so it was the first time he was in a videogame.

IMJ 06-11-2023 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1964958)
That's not an unpopular opinion, that's just plain factually incorrect. At its height the Archie series was selling nearly 200,000 copies a month. IDW and even Mirage are "niche" compared to the success and audience TMNTA had.

:lol:

That Archie series first 12 issues went to multiple printings - sometimes up to 8th printing. :lol: That's basically more newsstand reprints than any other title in history.

Must have been a "Niche" book. :lol:

Sumac 06-11-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1964996)
I actually liked the more unique roster in the Tournament Fighters games, it felt like they were trying to do something different.

If we had more TMNT fighting games, I wouldn't had anything against obscure characters, but when you have only 3 games, locked on different platforms, I'd prefer to have more popular faces first and everyone else later.

RaphaelinSTL 06-13-2023 09:33 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/ZRR01R0P/toxic-crusaders-lmao.png

Off-topic a bit, but that Toxic Crusaders game isn't even trying to hide anymore how much of a copy of Shredder's Revenge it is haha.

Chaotix12345 06-13-2023 01:50 PM

Yuki Matsuzaki will be reprising Usagi in Shredder's Revenge! (After previously playing him in the 2012 show as well as Samurai Rabbit on Netflix.)

Was hoping he'd be on board for this. Really neat how he's kind of become the "official" voice for Usagi.

Tuxedo Moroboshi 06-13-2023 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1964933)
At least they brought OG Karai into a spotlight, before she was infantilized into Shredder's daughter.

As much as I didn't mind it when it was first done in the 2003 cartoon, I do continue to be annoyed that this is forever what the character is and likely will always be in every succeeding iteration of the franchise ever.

Andrew NDB 06-13-2023 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1965002)
200,000 at its peak? And how many kids liked TMNT at its peak? The NES games alone sold millions. Yeah, I'd call that a niche. Most kids didn't know what Archie TMNT was.

It's not a mark against TMNTA that you didn't have any friends.

Sumac 06-13-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuxedo Moroboshi (Post 1965200)
As much as I didn't mind it when it was first done in the 2003 cartoon, I do continue to be annoyed that this is forever what the character is and likely will always be in every succeeding iteration of the franchise ever.

I didn't mind it either, but, yeah, after TMNT 2007 it became obvious that is now who Karai is. 2k12 and IDW made things only worse, so yeah.
I bet, if someone will bring OG Karai back some idiots gonna whine that "this is not a true Karai - she should be a teenager and Shredder's daughter / subordinate".
Bleh.

Ninjinister 06-13-2023 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1964786)
:o I didn't know that Ninja Turtles "furries" comics were made.... OMG wtf? :teek:

Started May 5, 1984. Where have you been?

Tuxedo Moroboshi 06-15-2023 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 1965249)
Started May 5, 1984. Where have you been?

I do think there's a clear distinction between something that gives off furry vibes, and simply having a humanoid animal, personally. Particularly since the Mirage series only ever had the 4 turtles and Splinter (and later Leatherhead), while the Archie series had mutants (most of them people that take on animal qualities, rather than just animals that got mutated) pretty much out the wazoo, and also clearly drawn a very different way than the way the brothers, Splinter, and Leatherhead were drawn in Mirage. Maaaaaybe this is just my own interpretation, but I always felt like those characters were more like "creatures" in Mirage, while in Archie they do give off more powerful furry vibes. Same with IDW, particularly with Mutant Town.

IMJ 06-15-2023 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 1965249)
Started May 5, 1984. Where have you been?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
You're actually right. I don't know what came over me... :lol::lol:

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Originally Posted by Tuxedo Moroboshi (Post 1965432)
I do think there's a clear distinction between something that gives off furry vibes, and simply having a humanoid animal, personally. Particularly since the Mirage series only ever had the 4 turtles and Splinter (and later Leatherhead), while the Archie series had mutants (most of them people that take on animal qualities, rather than just animals that got mutated) pretty much out the wazoo, and also clearly drawn a very different way than the way the brothers, Splinter, and Leatherhead were drawn in Mirage. Maaaaaybe this is just my own interpretation, but I always felt like those characters were more like "creatures" in Mirage, while in Archie they do give off more powerful furry vibes. Same with IDW, particularly with Mutant Town.

Pretty sure his post was actually sardonic social commentary.

Tuxedo Moroboshi 06-15-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1965439)
Pretty sure his post was actually sardonic social commentary.

Oh, I do get that it was just a joke. That comment just sparked a train of thought in my brain and I have a tendency to over-analyze everything... and then just sorta think out loud. Sorry, I didn't mean to annoy. :embarass:

IMJ 06-15-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuxedo Moroboshi (Post 1965450)
Oh, I do get that it was just a joke. That comment just sparked a train of thought in my brain and I have a tendency to over-analyze everything... and then just sorta think out loud. Sorry, I didn't mean to annoy. :embarass:

No, no, you didn't annoy at all... Not at all.

LeotheLateBloomer 07-13-2023 11:36 AM



Cool to see different colored skins based on other TMNT cartoon series.

Chaotix12345 07-13-2023 12:11 PM

https://i.imgur.com/3PMT7mm.jpg

You just KNOW that TMNT games have gotten NUTS when even the freaking UNCANNY TRIO score cameos in the new DLC.

https://i.imgur.com/kglTGTM.jpg

Love how Leo's Rise-based colorswap even includes his little red-eared slider marks. Great attention to detail.

I also spy Pizzaface, Hothead, Kerma, Cudley, a Mirage-or-2k3-style Fugitoid fleeing ARMAGGON in deep space (which is a Nick reference, so great touch), and 2k3-style colorswaps for April, Casey, and Splinter. They definitely littered this DLC with unabashed fanservice. Also looking forward to seeing if there's any kind of big reward for maxing out the crystal progression.

CyberCubed 07-13-2023 01:15 PM

So it is indeed just single screen survival mode, and no new stages as expected. Somewhat disappointing, but I hope it's not expensive. If this is $19.99 or more I'll probably wait on it. I'd get it for $9.99 though.

Chaotix12345 07-13-2023 01:31 PM

I imagine it'll probably have equivalent pricing to Streets of Rage 4's Mr. X Nightmare. (Which was $7.99.) REALLY don't see it costing almost as much as the base game's $24.99.

CyberCubed 07-13-2023 02:10 PM

I do hope its cheap, Usagi licensing cost may add up though.

RaphaelinSTL 07-13-2023 03:03 PM

Unless I'm just a goof, I feel like the marketing messaging has been weird for this ... is Dimension Shellshock just the survival mode or will there be additonal modes in the DLC? I wouldn't doubt there will be additional characters to play throughout the game, but I wonder if there will be survival, new characters, and other stuff?

I'm probably wrong, and it's basically just what SOR4 had, but slightly updated. The survival mode looked fun enough though with being able to change into the different villains.

I REALLY hope they're able to keep the license long enough to do a sequel.

IMJ 07-13-2023 03:47 PM

On a long enough timeline they will do a discounted package deal of all of the DLC.

Either that or re-release the game with all of it included on a new disc or full-game DL package.

Chaotix12345 07-13-2023 03:50 PM



Dimension Shellshock gameplay from Playstation Underground. They mention a "mysterious figure" setting the events of Survival Mode in motion, so I'm guessing that means a new boss. (Or a potential tease for the second DLC character.)

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Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL (Post 1967947)
Unless I'm just a goof, I feel like the marketing messaging has been weird for this ... is Dimension Shellshock just the survival mode or will there be additonal modes in the DLC? I wouldn't doubt there will be additional characters to play throughout the game, but I wonder if there will be survival, new characters, and other stuff?

I'm probably wrong, and it's basically just what SOR4 had, but slightly updated. The survival mode looked fun enough though with being able to change into the different villains.

Dimension Shellshock was only ever advertised as adding new playable characters (including Usagi), a new game mode (Survival), and new palette options. It's definitely smaller in scale.

CyberCubed 07-13-2023 03:58 PM

Yep, there's no real new stages. Just Usagi is playable and a survival mode.


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