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LeotheLateBloomer 06-26-2022 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL (Post 1935260)
Had to share someone's fan creation of Karai, Hun and the Dragon Lord in Shredder's Revenge style.

https://i.redd.it/radnkwgcem791.png

Karai would be fanservice for those that grew up with Tournament Fighters. Her and Hun are for us 2003 fans as well.

I'm surprised Zach didn't have a cameo in this game (regardless of whether one liked him or not).

sdp 06-26-2022 08:47 AM

I agree,this is the first real 1987 cartoon game and it's what it should continue to be instead of a hybrid of continuities. Super Shredder was already cutting it. Lotus blossom instead of Karai for example.

Sumac 06-26-2022 10:00 AM

I'd like to see Karai and Tatsu, I know they are not exactly OG cartoon, but as a tribute to other continuities. Besides, both had appeared in Konami games.

RaphaelinSTL 06-26-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1935364)
I don't think we'll see anyone outside of original cartoon characters in this even in DLC. There's a reason why everyone has their original cartoon design including Slash and Wingnut, whereas the older games used the Archie designs for them.

If we get new bosses it'll probably be Granitor, Lord Dregg, Scumbug, Antrax, etc. rather than anyone from any other series.

Playable characters should definitely include the likes of Mondo Gecko, the Frogs, Lotus Blossom, etc.

Very true. I was thinking that as well ... more than likely any additional villains / playable characters would borrow their 1987 cartoon design.

Usagi would be a fun addition.

AquaParade 06-26-2022 11:06 AM

If they are going to put the time into creating all new sprties and animations, they may as well just start developing a sequel. It takes a lot of time to craft sprites.

There is much they could do to evolve the gameplay mechanics further. Imagine more dynamic level design and destructibility, platforming innovation, new enemy types, better graphics, new modes, or even new combat mechanics, like block or parry.

I'd like to see them focus on that rather than working on extra characters for the same game that already has seven playable characters and 16 stages.
Granted, some of that could be done via dlc, but it still feels like spinning wheels to me.

Sumac 06-26-2022 12:27 PM

I personally hope for a short 6 level long DLC.
It won't put strain on the devs and it will allow to reuse all of the amazing assets they did.

CyberCubed 06-26-2022 12:41 PM

Did the Streets of Rage 4 DLC have new stages or just new playable characters?

Turo602 06-26-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1935446)
Did the Streets of Rage 4 DLC have new stages or just new playable characters?

New characters, boss rush, and a survival mode. Seems like about as much as you'd expect from a beat 'em up.

Coola Yagami 06-26-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1935446)
Did the Streets of Rage 4 DLC have new stages or just new playable characters?

New characters and a new survival mode with a mix of new weapons, old and new assets. But not anything affecting the actual base game other than being able to use the new characters in them.

LeotheLateBloomer 06-26-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL (Post 1935435)
Usagi would be a fun addition.

Wouldn't they have to get the rights for Usagi?

Anarchistguy 06-26-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1935464)
Wouldn't they have to get the rights for Usagi?

Yes they would but people don't want to listen. They keep insisting or thinking he's a TMNT character.

Coola Yagami 06-26-2022 05:16 PM

Aren't really any cool new characters left that aren't already cameos, except maybe Zack... but ugh... or Carter... no thanks. I mean to be honest, April, Splinter and Casey were already 'dlc-worthy' characters if they weren't in the game already.

Actually, I just remembered Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa. Maybe even Lotus?

But yeah, when you think about it, the OT Turtles didn't have that many allies that weren't just the Channel 6 crew and Zack and whatnot. Most of the 'toy' characters were villains.

Anyways, it seems everyone gets their own unique one panel ending, and there's a cool extra pan up shot if you find all the hidden cameo characters.

Leo656 06-26-2022 05:31 PM

Zack (Zach? I forget) should be brought back as a villain. :lol:

Seriously though. "You guys were my heroes, and you just FORGOT about me!" And he knows all of their secrets. Lot of meat on the bone, there.

Bring him back and have him go full Jason Todd, that'd be great. :trazz:

neatoman 06-26-2022 05:54 PM

On a scale from 1 to 10, how surprising would it be if the DLC and/or sequel would use characters like Hun or Bishop?

Personally I'd say a 6. The game is obviously needlessly vehement about sticking to Fred Wolf references, to the point where they actively chose to use the single worst design for Slash, simply because that's what he looked like in the show. But then again, it's not like the Konami games cared about only sticking to Fred Wolf references and it's not like there's anything other than creative decisions keeping them from using characters who weren't ever in the Fred Wolf cartoon.

Coola Yagami 06-26-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1935485)
On a scale from 1 to 10, how surprising would it be if the DLC and/or sequel would use characters like Hun or Bishop?

Personally I'd say a 6. The game is obviously needlessly vehement about sticking to Fred Wolf references, to the point where they actively chose to use the single worst design for Slash, simply because that's what he looked like in the show. But then again, it's not like the Konami games cared about only sticking to Fred Wolf references and it's not like there's anything other than creative decisions keeping them from using characters who weren't ever in the Fred Wolf cartoon.

I'm guessing the only exception would be Super Shredder, since technically Tokka and Rahzar were in the cartoon too.

Kinda wish the voices were better for everyone else. Leatherhead and all them sound so off. And why do the Neutronoes sound like old dudes? It's like they forgot to add the 'high pitch' filter on them or something.

Turo602 06-26-2022 06:26 PM

Even though it would never happen and it's way too soon to be talking about a sequel, I would love it if they did a Turtles Forever type game with the Mirage, 80s, 2k3, and even 2k12 Turtles. The level and enemy variety would be insane.

Multiverses are quite popular today and TMNT are no strangers to it. As much as I would like separate games like Shredder's Revenge based on different eras just to prove not everything has to be 80s TMNT to sell, I think a multiverse game would just make a lot more sense and work as a celebration of of the franchise while using the 80s brand to bank on the arcade game nostalgia.

Coola Yagami 06-26-2022 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 1935487)
Even though it would never happen and it's way too soon to be talking about a sequel, I would love it if they did a Turtles Forever type game with the Mirage, 80s, 2k3, and even 2k12 Turtles. The level and enemy variety would be insane.

Multiverses are quite popular today and TMNT are no strangers to it. As much as I would like separate games like Shredder's Revenge based on different eras just to prove not everything has to be 80s TMNT to sell, I think a multiverse game would just make a lot more sense and work as a celebration of of the franchise while using the 80s brand to bank on the arcade game nostalgia.

To be honest, that would be the only way I see this going. This game pretty much covered everything it could when related to the OT. I really can't see people caring enough about Lord Dregg and his crew to have the sequel be about Red Sky. But a multiverse type where you can choose the different Turtles and their enemies and stages. Not sure about 2K12 cause they'd be CGI unless people would accept animated versions of them.

Though this game might only have the Turtles playable due to all the different types. They should play different and not just be different skins. Or maybe have them be skins with different voices and make each turtle fight in a more universal style that would fit all the incarnations and leave the actual difference to characters with more dramatic changes like April, Casey and Karai. Just replace Karai with Lotus when it comes to the OT.

But yeah, imagine stages being like the Technodrome, Shredder's Tower from 2K3, the 2012 version of Dimension X, the TCRI building, etc.

CyberCubed 06-26-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1935486)
Kinda wish the voices were better for everyone else. Leatherhead and all them sound so off. And why do the Neutronoes sound like old dudes? It's like they forgot to add the 'high pitch' filter on them or something.

I'm surprised you say this, of all the voices only the Neutrinos and the Channel 6 news crew sound really different.

Groundchuck, Dirtbag, Leathhead, Baxter etc. all sound very similar to their OT voices. Also props to whoever did Shredder and Krang, Shredder in particular sounds just like the replacement Shredder VA's we had in the OT. :lol:

RaphaelinSTL 06-26-2022 11:27 PM

Finally on to Splinter to be the last one to get to level 10! Looks like I've put 20 hours into the game so far, and still lovin' it a lot!

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1935464)
Wouldn't they have to get the rights for Usagi?

Certainly they could? You would think he'd be one of the most requested, but guess we'd have to wait and see.

Ninjinister 06-27-2022 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloudrunner (Post 1935351)
I'd love to see an IDW expansion with Alopex as one of the characters... but the cynical part of me knows full well the only potential character that'll come out of IDW is ****ing Jennika.

So the better character?

Coola Yagami 06-27-2022 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1935497)
I'm surprised you say this, of all the voices only the Neutrinos and the Channel 6 news crew sound really different.

Groundchuck, Dirtbag, Leathhead, Baxter etc. all sound very similar to their OT voices.

Eh they sound like bad imitators but it is what it is. Still closer to the generic voices the older games used.

The Neutrinos were the worst. The channel 6 crew still sounded along the lines of bad imitators but the Neutrinos just got bad voice direction.

Loved all the unique lines. Some characters get specific lines at the start of each stage or when a boss arrives. Like Donnie will tell Metalhead he'll fix him up, Leo tells Tempestra that it's game over for her and so forth. I like it cause it makes each playthrough a little different since you can't hear all the lines if you're not using the right character.

Xav 06-27-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1935497)
I'm surprised you say this, of all the voices only the Neutrinos and the Channel 6 news crew sound really different.

Casey sounds nothing like he does in the OT.

Anarchistguy 06-27-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1935528)
Casey sounds nothing like he does in the OT.

Neither do Splinter, Shredder or Slash.

TigerClaw 06-27-2022 01:59 PM

They were only able to get 4 of the original cast, They probably couldn't get Pat Fraley for Krang nor Peter Renaday for Splinter.

Coola Yagami 06-27-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1935528)
Casey sounds nothing like he does in the OT.

He only does the Dirty Harry (Filthy Larry lol) impression during his taunt 'batter up scuzzbucket'


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Originally Posted by Anarchistguy (Post 1935539)
Neither do Splinter, Shredder or Slash.

To be fair at least Splinter and Shredder were trying to imitate the voices. Slash was a whole other direction.

oldmanwinters 06-27-2022 08:12 PM

Full mod download with custom voice clips by Renae Jacobs available in full today:
https://www.nexusmods.com/tmntshredd...s/39?tab=files

Coola Yagami 06-27-2022 11:50 PM

God damn this music is so ****in catchy.

It's like a beat-em-up fiesta. Some tunes have hints of Battletoads and Double Dragon, Double Dragon Neon, Streets of Rage, the X-Men arcade soundtrack, hell the overall Konami sound and even bits from the classic TMNT soundtrack. I'm glad they kept a remixed version of Krang's cartoon theme. And then Shredder slaughters you with his roast rap before he even sets a finger on you.

Icebot 06-28-2022 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1935583)
God damn this music is so ****in catchy.

It's like a beat-em-up fiesta. Some tunes have hints of Battletoads and Double Dragon, Double Dragon Neon, Streets of Rage, the X-Men arcade soundtrack, hell the overall Konami sound and even bits from the classic TMNT soundtrack. I'm glad they kept a remixed version of Krang's cartoon theme. And then Shredder slaughters you with his roast rap before he even sets a finger on you.

Totally agree! In fact I love the Panic In The Sky music so much I bought it from iTunes.

I wasn’t sure if this was said before but does anyone know if
Spoiler:
those ninjas dressed in black with the sais are Megavolt’s ninjas from the red sky episode State of Shock?

Ninjinister 06-29-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Icebot (Post 1935585)
Totally agree! In fact I love the Panic In The Sky music so much I bought it from iTunes.

I wasn’t sure if this was said before but does anyone know if
Spoiler:
those ninjas dressed in black with the sais are Megavolt’s ninjas from the red sky episode State of Shock?

They're Elite Foot.

The Deadman 06-29-2022 07:52 PM

I beat the game in about 3 hours. Not bad. Want more though.

Nickokapo 06-30-2022 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1935567)
Full mod download with custom voice clips by Renae Jacobs available in full today:
https://www.nexusmods.com/tmntshredd...s/39?tab=files

Awesome :tlol: Catwoman april was one of the characters i would have liked to see most, down the line (Alongside Usagi, even tho that's Sakai's character, but it's not like that ever stopped him from appearing in battle nexus or tmnt legends...mona lisa and mondo gecko would be fun too.). My wish came true!
That is such a neatly made mod, i'm gonna try it soon...i am guessing i will need a sepparate copy other than my official steam one?Since it is modifying the game.

I was not aware of the rumors about mona lisa having some files left over, i wonder if any hidden art will show up if/when somebody datamines the game.

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1935438)
If they are going to put the time into creating all new sprties and animations, they may as well just start developing a sequel. It takes a lot of time to craft sprites.

There is much they could do to evolve the gameplay mechanics further. Imagine more dynamic level design and destructibility, platforming innovation, new enemy types, better graphics, new modes, or even new combat mechanics, like block or parry.

I'd like to see them focus on that rather than working on extra characters for the same game that already has seven playable characters and 16 stages.
Granted, some of that could be done via dlc, but it still feels like spinning wheels to me.

Yeah, i wouldn't object to that...they could add new features like ridable vehicles/robots, weapon pick-ups, more moves into the combat system...i'll take whichever they make but if i had to pick between DLC and full-blown sequel, i'd much rather have a sequel, so long as it is at the very least as good, if not better, than this first game.

oldmanwinters 06-30-2022 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickokapo (Post 1935797)
That is such a neatly made mod, i'm gonna try it soon...i am guessing i will need a sepparate copy other than my official steam one?Since it is modifying the game.

.

No, your regular Steam copy is fine for installing or uninstalling this mod (when you want to go back to standard April). The mod readme file gives the details but you just copy the downloaded files into your game’s Steam folder on PC then run the prepacked installer app. To uninstall you just check the game’s file integrity via the Steam dashboard (also in readme). You can play online like normal but only players with the mod installed will experience the changes

TigerClaw 06-30-2022 10:05 AM

Apparently April's fighting style is inspired by Cynthia Rothrock from the movie "Yes, Madam."


oldmanwinters 06-30-2022 10:20 AM

EDIT:
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Originally Posted by Nickokapo (Post 1935797)
I was not aware of the rumors about mona lisa having some files left over, i wonder if any hidden art will show up if/when somebody datamines the game.
.

Mona Lisa sprites have gone public:
https://tcrf.net/Teenage_Mutant_Ninj...er%27s_Revenge

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1935840)
Apparently April's fighting style is inspired by Cynthia Rothrock from the movie "Yes, Madam."

See also…
https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sh...&postcount=272

Shark_Blade 07-06-2022 05:04 AM


MikeandRaph87 07-06-2022 05:52 AM

So Mona Lisa was meant to be apart of the background in a level much like the Lunk Frogs are,but didn't happen?

Slower taunter? So Casey Jones doesn't have any strong points over the other characters?

lonewarrior20 07-06-2022 06:19 AM

Maybe we'll see some new things after some version updates.

TigerClaw 07-06-2022 08:34 AM

Here's Mona Lisa, I wish the image was bigger, She's pretty cute.

https://tcrf.net/images/c/c0/TMNT-Sh...venge-Mona.PNG

Sumac 07-06-2022 01:17 PM

Interesting.
I hope they re-add some of this stuff.

TigerClaw 07-06-2022 01:43 PM

there were also unused sprites of Tiffany.

https://tcrf.net/images/2/20/TMNT-Sh...ge-Tiffany.png

https://tcrf.net/images/7/78/TMNT-Sh...y-Flirting.gif https://tcrf.net/images/2/22/TMNT-Sh...ny-Spotted.gif https://tcrf.net/images/6/6c/TMNT-Sh...ny-Running.gif https://tcrf.net/images/0/09/TMNT-Sh...y-Standing.gif https://tcrf.net/images/2/2f/TMNT-Sh...y-Pointing.gif https://tcrf.net/images/c/cc/TMNT-Sh...d-Standing.gif https://tcrf.net/images/2/28/TMNT-Sh...any-Crying.gif https://tcrf.net/images/5/5f/TMNT-Sh...y-Cheering.gif


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