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https://majorspoilers.com/2022/05/24...ja-turtles-129

so, the frogs were just visiting from Florida when the bomb went off.

So I guess this is the first series the Punk Frogs were humans before mutation. In both the original cartoon and Nick 2012 cartoon they were ordinary frogs that got mutated. They never appeared in the Archie comics so this was it beforehand.

I still find the Venus plot super cringy and off-putting.

I don't get why they felt we needed two female mutant turtles, and both that take up so much space/prominence from the actual stars of the comic. Ugh.

"bEcaUsE rePreSenTatiOn!"

Oh, yeah.

TMNT never had interesting non-white, non-male, (non-human?) characters before Jennika came along! /s

They went on, and on that little girls need mutant female turtles to look up to. Jeez. I don't think kid me would've liked Jennika at all, and not just because I was already a huge fan of April. Jennika is just...a flatline.

Back in the day, April and Ninjara was all we needed.

They were presented as straight. Not "progressive" enough in these modern times. It's not enough to have a prominent female character. It means nothing unless she licks beaver. Straight women only count as 5/8s Female anymore.

There's rules to these things, man. Try and keep up.

April's never been confirmed as 100% straight, so. :lol:

All Women Are Gay, yes. They don't all practice, but they're all inherently swishy, sure.

Which is why I said April and Ninjara were presented as straight. :trazz: In that they only ever outspokenly pined for dudes.

Meanwhile, April lets Oyuki, a near-total stranger, just up and move in with her rent-free and almost no questions asked... uh huh. SOME of us knew what was really going on, there. "Bow-chicka-BOW-wowwwww..." :lol:

That's hot. That's a hot way to live.

Everything you just said, while sadly true, does the exact opposite of keeping me up. Figuratively speaking.

What about the April/Oyuki scenario I proposed above? That certainly does a fine job of keeping me "up". HI-YOOOOOOO! :tgrin:

I like that every conversation eventually gets to this point. Usually it takes longer, but I suppose there would have to be more substance in the comic for us to talk about to delay it.

I do my best! Tips are appreciated.

Just the tips? :tlol:

I call it Campbell's Law.

I unironically liked April/Oyuki.

I think Adventures did a better job with the relationships than the recent IDW comics have, which is ironic since IDW has more 'shipping'. Believe me, I enjoy good romances... What the Mutant Town stuff's had...is not.

Well I could certainly never take the whole thing. :trazz:

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Definitely felt less forced in the Archie books. And considering how heavy-handed that series could be at times, that says something.

I never liked how Archie did the Raph/Ninjara break-up, though. That was terrible. She all but openly wishes to go hop in this other guy's bed, right in front of her current boyfriend... and yet RAPH is the bad guy for "losing his temper" and "having a bad attitude" and all that? UGH. None of that was believable, to me. At least not the book's insistence that Ninjara was "right" and Raph was "wrong". That's completely backwards. If your girlfriend is openly making bedroom eyes at another dude while knowing full well that it makes you uncomfortable, she's a slut and you're allowed to be cranky about it.

Which was a shame, because before that I really liked Ninjara. And I get they needed to force a break-up and everything, but that whole thing was just awful. In the back of my mind, I still can't really look at her without thinking of her as "The skank who used Raph's 'negative attitude' as an excuse to go f*ck some other guy", as women are wont to do. And the Furrlough story confirms that she didn't wait very long at all before hopping right on Mokoshan's dick once Raph was out of the picture. So again, how was Raph the bad guy for being suspicious in the first place?

Shame. But I mean... that is a thing some women do, so... I guess it was realistic. I just didn't like how it went down because it made me like Ninjara less and before that I'd had no problem with her.

Reminds me of Macho Man, overly jealous and overly protective around Elizabeth so she wouldn't sleep with other guys. What's the first thing she does when she gets a bit of independence? Sleep with other guys. I don't condone Macho Man's methods but wow Elizabeth, you reeeeaalllly proved him wrong, ya skank.

I felt the same way you did when I first read those comics some years ago, but...meh. I've been very forgiving especially given that was one of the few things I didn't like in the TMNT Adventures run. I still really like Ninjara, mostly because I tend to not hold bad writing against characters. If I did, I'd hate most DC and Marvel heroes by now...

The part that bugs me the worst if they broke up even after Future Raph warned them about it. What a waste. And it was clear she was pretty much the love of his life by how hurt Future Raph was.

I always figured he got that other fix girl cause he realized even going back in time didn't fix things and it was meant to be.