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Andrew NDB 09-06-2020 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ranger_scout (Post 1860352)
Okay, I watched it yesterday with my two friends and I honestly don't know why critics liked this movie so much.

Diversity.

Shark_Blade 09-06-2020 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1860230)
lol the really have her taking on a whole army or just the main Big Bad?

Yes she pretty much wiped like half the entire army I think what with the jumping backflips and kicking spears everywhere like the OP she is.

It still boggles my mind that anyone would discard their armour protection in a middle of a war, disregarding precaution and safety, her long hair now let loose freely billowing in the air all over her face.. unless they’re absurdly overly confident of their own ability. That’s just awful imo, isn’t she supposed to be the smart one in her village?

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1860351)
For those of you who watched it, do you feel this was worth watching in theaters, or better off on the smaller screen?

Depends on what you’re looking forward to. You want to enjoy big graphic and live audience interaction with the movie? Cinema it is.
You just want to see check out the story and it is sufficient for you to watch on tv? Home it is.

For me, I went to the movie. Some of the audience’s funny reaction (like gasping when they found out one of Mulan’s friends “died” but then he’s actually alive got them laughing aloud) made me smile.

The river bathing scene got a lot of laughs too.

So that’s enhanced experience for me.

Andrew NDB 09-06-2020 10:55 PM

So is it way different than the animated movie, dragon aside?

Shark_Blade 09-06-2020 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1860361)
So is it way different than the animated movie, dragon aside?

The main story plot is similar but with lots changes along the path like no songs, General Shang no longer her muse but a fellow soldier is, the falcon is a witch, etc.

If you don’t mind spoiler check this Chinese woman’s funny tweet thread to get a taste of how it is: https://twitter.com/xiranjayzhao/sta...465590272?s=21

Vicky82 09-07-2020 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1860351)
For those of you who watched it, do you feel this was worth watching in theaters, or better off on the smaller screen?

I thinks it's worth seeing this movie on the big screen for the Cinematography and fight scenes but not for the story itself.

Andrew NDB 09-07-2020 05:54 AM

Hm. So they go straight up war movie? Probably can't do that in PG-13. Yeesh. I think I can already envision the movie, without having watching it. A lot of kicks and slow-mo and no blood and sword swings that are mostly blocked, etc.. Sound about right?

Rubbish. Just bring in the cartoon dragon, then. You have to decide what you're making or don't go that route.

Leo656 09-07-2020 06:14 AM

A "safe" war movie. You know, for kids! :tgrin:

AquaParade 09-07-2020 06:18 AM

Yeah, even Black Panther's finale is hard to take seriously. I find myself watching all the extras, hoping for just one to be impaled in a plight for realism.

Leo656 09-07-2020 06:23 AM

It's funny how in Disney cartoons, you can kill anyone you want so long as it's not too graphic. You can even be really suggestive about it. Scar's death in "The Lion King" and Sykes's death in "Oliver and Company" were both especially harsh. Yet in live action pretty much nobody dies, ever. Like, once every hundred years, maybe, but even then there's loopholes and sometimes they even get "un-killed" in a later project just so nobody ever feels too bad for too long.

Disney has some weird f*cking rules about this kinda sh*t.

Andrew NDB 09-07-2020 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1860392)
A "safe" war movie. You know, for kids! :tgrin:

It's been happening since they decided the "Mortal Kombat" movie needed to be OK for 13 year-olds. Beyond ridiculous. Before that, it'd be weird if such things weren't R. It wasn't even a question .

Leo656 09-07-2020 06:46 AM

Back in MY day, you could have some blood (as long as it wasn't excessively graphic) and one or two F-bombs in a PG-13 flick. Even tits were Perfectly Fine by PG-13 standards on occasion, as long as they were displayed "tastefully" or "artistically" and weren't too big.

Hell, "The Adventures of Baron Munchausen" was a simple PG flick "for kids" and you totally see Uma Thurman's tits in that. Mmmm MMM!

.....Some people swear that people as a whole haven't turned into pussies in recent times. I say, evidence strongly speaks to the contrary.

Also the Munchausen flick is actually really good. Very "quirky" but quite humorous. Uma's funbags are just a fun bonus.

AquaParade 09-07-2020 07:47 AM

Disney has done some weird things in regard to censorship but it seems to be more a symptom than anything else.

I know this is beating a dead horse, but our societies hang-up with sexuality just seem weirder to me the older I get. At least speaking for the United States, but I think it goes beyond that. Just lots of taboo and shame involved in a way that seems harmful.

Leo656 09-07-2020 08:05 AM

Oh, absolutely.

Nipples are awesome, and we all got 'em. Excluding my late brother-in-law who lost his in a skateboarding accident, true f*cking story. But anyway he's dead so I'm reasonably sure everybody else has nipples, so I have never understood why we're not supposed to look at 'em or why they're so taboo.

Lookit Episode One of Thundercats. Cheetara's bare-ass naked! And thank God, but anyways, how absurd is that? That a perfectly nude and rather shapely female form can be displayed uncensored and without complaint... simply because you don't see a hint of nipple, beav, or gash. "Just" the entire nude form is perfectly acceptable, perky tits and all. But throw a couple tiny circles and a dash mark on there and you got yourself some pornography, fella. For real, "The Line" between Art and Pornography in some cases is literally that, JUST a line (or circle).

It's all so incredibly, incredibly stupid.

If I had my way, outside of extreme weather conditions chicks would be naked by law. At least the hot ones.

I don't know if I'm a very good role model but I have lots of fun ideas for how things ought to be.

AquaParade 09-07-2020 08:12 AM

Hmm. Too much good in that post to respond to. I'll just say I'm happy to have it confirmed that nippies don't grow back.

Leo656 09-07-2020 08:27 AM

I think the "not actually nipple" part did somewhat grow back but not the actual "nipple" nipple. I confess I never hung out with him much when he didn't have a shirt on. :lol:

I discovered this fact in the strangest way, too. We were drinking, right, and I was like 13 or 14 which was when I did most of my heavy drinking because this dude and my sister were just terrible role models and I spent most weekends with them, but anyways. We were pretty drunk and sharing random stories when out of nowhere he was like, "Y'know I ain't got any f*cking nipples?" and he proceeded to give me the full story. Apparently it is not good to chest-plant off of a skateboard at high speed on cement. I would have guessed that even without the visual aid, but apparently it's even worse than one would think!

I'm not sure what was more strange, the fact that this indeed happened to him, or that he broached the subject exactly as casually as he would tell me the dog was outside or whatever mundane thing. *I* would've told the story completely differently. I would've woven a tale of intrigue and suspense, gradually building in intensity and drama until finally reaching the climactic nipple-shearing moment, delivering the reveal in just such a way as to make the listener react with the perfect amount of shock, horror, and incredulous revulsion.

Instead he just blurted it out like he would've said the cat took a sh*t. "Y'know I ain't got any f*ckin' nipples?" :lol: That, to me, is the most absurd part of the entire tale, the fact that he relayed this information so casually as if it were something that happens to everyone at one time or other.

But no, they apparently don't ever fully grow back. Good thing he landed on his chest and not his crotch I guess.

Sumac 09-07-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ranger_scout (Post 1860352)
Okay, I watched it yesterday with my two friends and I honestly don't know why critics liked this movie so much.

Chinese money.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1860397)
It's been happening since they decided the "Mortal Kombat" movie needed to be OK for 13 year-olds. Beyond ridiculous. Before that, it'd be weird if such things weren't R. It wasn't even a question .

Mortal Kombat had some gory stuff, just without blood: Scorpion was set on fire and exploded (he is a ghost, but whatever), Sub-Zero was impaled by icicle and frozen, Shang was impaled.

Leo656 09-07-2020 02:43 PM

The rating/censorship of the Mortal Kombat film was bullsh*t, but they did the best they could within the limits they were given. It's still a good movie.

It was weird. Like a concession of what most of us already knew but nobody on their end was "allowed" to say out loud. "Mortal Kombat is absolutely NOT for kids, you guys... but no, seriously, we're well aware that it's totally for kids, we know that's who loves this sh*t the most."

Very strange. But given the fact that there were literally court hearings about Mortal Kombat back in the day... I actually don't think anyone Then or Now should have been surprised that they handcuffed the movie.

Parents pitched a fit over how "violent" TMNT 1990 was. They didn't get any "better" about that sh*t five years later, if anything they turned into even bigger pussies. The parents who bitched about TMNT would have been picketing the movie theaters if the MK flick was Rated R as it arguably should have been. Because it was NO secret that despite what the video game's box said, it WAS totally aimed at children. Kids always love most the things they're "not supposed to" have, like porn and beer and horror movies and violent video games. Teens and adults played MK as well obviously but it was a HUGE hit with the under-12 crowd, especially the home versions. And they ALL just "had" to see the movie.

It's very easy to look back and say "Yeah man, the MK flick definitely should've been Rated R, that's bullsh*t." And technically, that's true. But given how vividly I remember that time and the cultural climate... that was simply impossible. Post-2000, it's plausible, as that generation has "grown up" with the games and they could very sincerely market the movie NOW as being aimed at the 30-somethings who were only 10 when the games came out. Back then, it was a "kids' thing" despite the tongue-in-cheek pretense that it wasn't, because only like ten adults actually played video games in 1994. They couldn't have said, "This MK movie is strictly for adults" because adults didn't actually care about or play Mortal Kombat. There was absolutely no room for plausible deniability on their end. Adults play it NOW, but that was not generally true Then. Only kids and teens generally played it. They would have gotten WAY too much heat if they'd made the film R-Rated. People were still convinced that these games were going to turn their kids into serial killers and mass shooters, and it took them more than 5 more years to get over that silly sh*t (and some people never have). A movie where they went out and ripped people's heads off and pulled their hearts out and all'a that sh*t would've caused riots.

I wish it had been different, too. A "proper" MK adaptation should always be Hard R. But in that time, in that place... no, that was completely, utterly impossible. It was SUCH a different time.

If anything, it's another case of "We should be grateful they even went as far as they did with it." Wouldn't wanna get ol' Tipper Gore's panties in a twist. :roll:

For what it's worth, MY Dad thought everything about the MK franchise was cool as f*ck, despite not playing video games himself. But he was kind of a weirdo. He let me watch horror movies and drink beer and didn't even care if I saw hardcore porn. HE thought a guy ripping out another guy's spine in a video game was all in good fun, and was blown away by how far the graphics had come from back in the early-80s. But MOST parents were pretty much on the opposite end of the "Cool Dad" scale. HE liked the movie just fine, but I also knew plenty of kids whose parents wouldn't let them watch it, so they had to sneak it home from the video store.

Just a totally different time.

AquaParade 09-08-2020 05:34 AM

Leo, that MK movie situation reminds me of South Park. I remember buying an Eric Cartman plushie at Target in elementary school. Seemed clearly intended for kids and I'm pretty sure it was stocked with all the other toys.

And, yeah, that MK movie is awesome. Probably my favorite "bad movie", aside from "Billy Madison", if we want to call it that.

Andrew NDB 09-08-2020 05:39 AM

No, MK was bullsh**. If you're making a video game adaptation that can't even keep the same tone as what it's adapting... what are you doing?

I'll grant that the movie was moderately entertaining on its own... but jesus. And the sequel, Annihilation? Probably on my top 10 worst movies of all time list.

AquaParade 09-08-2020 06:07 AM

Bullsh** or not, it's a lot of fun. The soundtrack and fights work and it is charming seeing that world and it's characters come to life with care. The gore wasn't true to the tone of the game, but considering we were watching harmless sprites at the time in the game, the film didn't feel that egregious in it's lack of full on gore. Seeing that "grunt" ninja shattered into popsicle-bits by Sub-Zero in the middle of a dinner ceremony was actually pretty disturbing as a kid.

It's harmless fun. But I agree that Annihilation was total ass. Probably the worst movie I had seen in theaters until Suicide Squad came into my life. Looking forward to the new MK movie though, even if I'm not necessarily holding my breath. At least it will be violent.


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