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Originally Posted by Galactus

A lot has been said about this movie from the people involved and what it's supposed and a lot of contradictory from this being a more realistic and dark take to it being a huge outlandish family movie but if we're to take the latest comments by Leibesman as the definitive answer then he's plainly stated that he believes the concept is so stupid that it can't be done in a serious way like the Nolan Batman movies or even semi-serious way ala most of the Marvel Studio movies. So what does that leave?

The Turtles were born out of mocking the state of comic books in the 80's. He basically says it's absurd to have a serious movie and no comedy relief and have the TMNT's. And I think you're making them out to be something they're not. The cartoons were more comedy and being silly than serious.

So every other version is lazy?

It's comments like this that make me wonder how people are TMNT fans if they think things like this. Tell did you always the other versions were lazy in this aspect or did not think about it until this movie made it an issue?

No, the other versions were limited by animation techologies and movie technologies. The current TMNT cartoon addresses Donnie's weapon, and he's constantly inventing other weapons to use for himself. It would be lazy for THIS movie to just give him a wooden stick *that's what it is* when he's inventing all these other things, why not give him a metal one, that collapses and expands with some force, giving it more dimensions and more points of attack. And when it's collapsed it compatible which is logical too.

I think people tend to exaggerate how the cartoons have differs but even the cartoons are generally for a specific audience with movies we expect a little more.

So cartoons can differ, but movies you expect more...like copying exactly what was written 30 years ago...

And Hollywood is littered with Catwomans and Swamp Things and Leagues of Extraordinary Gentlemens that all failed with common denominator being they deviated from the sources way too much.

A lot of the successful comic book movies of today like the first Iron Man, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, the Nolan Batman movies all take a great deal from the comics even adapting specific story lines. Just look at how pumped people are for the Man of Steel sequel because they are using elements from specific DC stories.

The turtles are not your usual comic book characters. They have a good chance to grab the action comedy genre because it's not being done with comic books. I for one hope this does well and that inspires Fox to go ahead with a Deadpool movie because action comedies can work and be profitable.

It's funny when movies are made from books people actually listen when it's pointed out to them if there's changes and to some degree respect that the original authors intention is more valid. Whereas with comics people who point out changes have a sneering attitude towards them that they are just nerds living in their parents basement that handle change.

But as I've pointed out the history of these movies show that keeping true to source works. It's actually kind of arrogant to suggest that Hollywood can improve on ideas and designs that have lasted for decades.

I simply don't care whether it's a comic book or novel that's the source material. This is an adaptation of a story that has thousands of directions it's gone in the past, there is nothing wrong with trying to add new elements to the Turtles. And I find people who prefer the book, or comic to movies to be so close minded. Why can't you just go and watch the movie instead of pointing out everything different from the comics or book?

That's great. We finally get to see the characters do things they were always meant to do but never could...but why does that have to tacked on with them doing things they never mean to do also?

Let's be clear no comic book heroes can ever be in real life but no one makes these kinds of arguments that Captain America should be flexing bullets.

Kevin Eastman helped with this movie, he's behind it 100%, he would know if something is outside of what the turtles are meant to be. You don't know, I don't know. You can lay claim to knowing what they are and aren't meant to be.

Captain America has a bullet proof shield...the Turtles now have a bullet proof shell...what's the problem? In the clip I saw, Raphael is huddled over being shot and he stands up screaming and doing the Hulk flex as the bullets burst on him. He doesn't start bouncing them off shooting the Foot. Calm down.