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Old 01-23-2015, 05:20 PM   #8
Andrew NDB
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I don't think Pimiko is ever going to win any kind of popularity contest with Karai, but nor should she. Karai has past, present, and future "history" with the Turtles, and in multiple media of... varying quality. She's even been in two TMNT movies now. Now, this doesn't mean Karai is a better character than Pimiko, or even that she's "cooler," it just means she's been all over the place in TMNT since the early 90s and Pimiko has not.

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That's because Vol. 3 "broke too many rules" as far as a lot of fans were concerned
What does that even mean?

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I loved Pimiko as a character, and while I agree with what most have said, I feel like Karai as the descendent/heir of Oroku Saki works well
Why? It cheapens her character. She was fine as a strong woman -- perhaps even stronger than Saki -- ninja master and Foot Clan head... why the need to tie her to Oroku Saki, particularly as something less than him (a daughter, his second in command, etc.) when in the source material she was anything but?

To even want TPTB to do that with her seems outright misogynistic.

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Was she confirmed to be his daughter in the 2007 movie?
No, but by the way she was talking she definitely came off as some kind of underling of his.

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Even in the 2K3 show she was his heir, but not a biological descendent/daughter, technically. He raised her as such but he was no more her father than he was in Mirage.
Um, you realize that's what a father is, right? Whether biologically or not. Either way, that's a far ****ing cry from her portrayal in Mirage. If Saki was anything to her in that while he was still alive, it was probably as a pest she would have to deal with over the telephone from Japan, an annoying upstart in New York that kept causing her Foot Clan problems who she could see to be replaced if need be.

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