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Old 10-10-2018, 11:07 AM   #77
IndigoErth
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Why she waited 36 years for this?
Who knows, but even that specific case aside, people seem to forget that the early 80s were different times. Domestic violence itself was still relatively newly considered a serious matter. Before then, it was a "private family matter" that wasn't typically intervened in. But are all police in all places going to start getting involved at the same rate? Probably not. Are all families going to up and decide it's no longer a private issue and should be reported? Probably not. And certainly not those who are guilty of it. Even today of course.

And if kids are raised in such a household, then what is the message there? That it's okay to abuse women (or men, or children, as the case may be) and get away with it? That those women have no power to speak out because this is allowed as a "family issue" and they'd be shamed because it's supposed to be kept private back then?

Granted, in a case like Ford, why then didn't she speak out 10 years ago? Or 20? But maybe after that long most people have put an event aside for long enough that it's just easier to keep it there, shoved to the back of the mind and in the past. (After all, given her age, her formative years were smack dab in the middle of society deciding if abuse was important or not or if victims are supposed to just hush up and deal with it, and people are molded by the times they come from...)

But, in a case like this, I could kind of understand reacting when you're suddenly hearing the guy's name in the news and seeing that a person who abused you could be given a position of power that would allow him to have a hand in decisions that affect the whole country for the rest his life...


Who knows... I have no idea what to make of this case and neither of them are solidly believable. But the history of abuse - be it domestic violence, rape, or what have you - and how society has responded to it and how that and change over time plays a part isn't as simple as people want to make it out to be.


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You'd think there'd be more balance near the middle as you fan out, but as soon as you cross two steps into the left you have critical thinking errors all over the place, and the mania begins almost immediately after that.


So... are you "far, far right" then? I mean, it seems like a "critical thinking error" to generalize liberals in such a way.

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