[MsMarvelDuckie]

I agree on a lot of your points, though admittedly I've only seen the BTAS version in the cartoons for animated Jokers, so not sure how the later series fit in. My biggest beef on Ledger was how his humor side was really NOT funny in any way, even the pencil gag just came off as another way to show what a psycho he was. That to me just doesn't jibe with how he has always had that kind of cruel slapstick sense of humor, where it was vicious, but still could be seen as amusing by others, albeit morbidly so. Sadistic humor, if you will, but still "funny haha" not JUST "funny in the head". And we DID see him give himself the razor-blade "smile" on screen, so even if it was a "lie", it's still completely out of character, since no other version I know of would have ever one such a thing to himself. To OTHERS? Certainly, but not to himself. He's far too vain to mar his own "good looks" that way. That's something I notice that seems to get overlooked- his personal vanity. He's often seen primping, straightening his tie, combing back his hair, etc, in comics, movies, and especially in the BTAS series. Romero did it a lot too. It's a subtle trait that most probably never even pick up on, but it's there. Ledger's Joker was kind of a slap in the face to that vain, narcissistic side. The part of him that views himself as above everyone else in some twisted way.

I loved most of what was done in Nolan's movies, but that version of Joker kind of left a sour taste for me. As for Leto, it was- different. If I'm being honest, probably my second least favorite. I would have liked to see the Jerome/Jeremiah Joker explored further after Gotham ended, as they kind of took some of the best qualities from other versions and melded them together beautifully. Jerome was a bit more sadistic, but also more "fun", while Jeremiah leaned more on the Anarchist, mastermind side. Both were kind of dramatic and deadly evil, with cruel and nasty tempers, and Jeremiah was pretty narcissistic, too. Put them together, and you basically had the quintessential Joker over the entire spectrum of his various incarnations.