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~~Leo656~~ · 10-24-2020, 11:24 PM

For a movie about the Suicide Squad, the first one really did more Right than Wrong in the grand scheme of things. It sure didn't seem to hit the mark with a lot of people as a movie, but I mean, it totally represented the "brand" or whatever correctly, for the most part. It's a mess, especially Act III, but I think it says a lot that the guy who created the Squad for the comics said that it was everything he'd expect to see in a movie about them. I think the rest has a lot to do with, "Was the movie even necessary?" And that's a conversation. I'unno, I feel like they aimed squarely for the middle and hit it. A lot could have been done differently, for sure, but I mean... that's the Squad, those are the characters... everyone IN it was done perfectly, to my eyes, they just didn't get a lot to do because the studio didn't know if they were making a comic book version of "The Expendables" or a black comedy about "Harley Quinn and Her Wacky Pals." But for better and worse, that was definitely the Suicide Squad. Like that's what those characters (and a movie about those characters) looks like.

A lot of things were allegedly very different before the studio took final cut away from Ayer. In the unlikely event that his cut ever saw the light of day, I'd be very interested in seeing it. For one thing, I love alternate cuts of movies in general; I find it fascinating to see how different sets of hands can alter the entire shape and direction of a film (for Better and/or Worse). And I feel like there was probably a more coherent narrative before WB started tinkering with it. There's at least THREE different versions of that movie, as I understand it. That's nuts! I doubt any of them is a masterpiece, but I'm willing to entertain the notion that Ayer kinda knew what he was doing with it and that WB didn't have a clue what they wanted. Hence the multiple different cuts with varying plot points and tones.

This time out, I feel like Gunn ALSO knows exactly what he wants to do and WB is just totally letting him, but... this looks a lot more like the Birds of Prey movie than I'm comfortable with.

10-24-2020, 11:24 PM	#35
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	For a movie about the Suicide Squad, the first one really did more Right than Wrong in the grand scheme of things. It sure didn't seem to hit the mark with a lot of people as a movie, but I mean, it totally represented the "brand" or whatever correctly, for the most part. It's a mess, especially Act III, but I think it says a lot that the guy who created the Squad for the comics said that it was everything he'd expect to see in a movie about them. I think the rest has a lot to do with, "Was the movie even necessary?" And that's a conversation. I'unno, I feel like they aimed squarely for the middle and hit it. A lot could have been done differently, for sure, but I mean... that's the Squad, those are the characters... everyone IN it was done perfectly, to my eyes, they just didn't get a lot to do because the studio didn't know if they were making a comic book version of "The Expendables" or a black comedy about "Harley Quinn and Her Wacky Pals." But for better and worse, that was definitely the Suicide Squad. Like that's what those characters (and a movie about those characters) looks like. A lot of things were allegedly very different before the studio took final cut away from Ayer. In the unlikely event that his cut ever saw the light of day, I'd be very interested in seeing it. For one thing, I love alternate cuts of movies in general; I find it fascinating to see how different sets of hands can alter the entire shape and direction of a film (for Better and/or Worse). And I feel like there was probably a more coherent narrative before WB started tinkering with it. There's at least THREE different versions of that movie, as I understand it. That's nuts! I doubt any of them is a masterpiece, but I'm willing to entertain the notion that Ayer kinda knew what he was doing with it and that WB didn't have a clue what they wanted. Hence the multiple different cuts with varying plot points and tones. This time out, I feel like Gunn ALSO knows exactly what he wants to do and WB is just totally letting him, but... this looks a lot more like the Birds of Prey movie than I'm comfortable with.