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Old 08-18-2021, 04:27 PM   #43
IndigoErth
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Biden voters, you asked for this. Own it, eat it.
Hate to break it to you, and since he's out you might want to pretend it never happened... but this exact same thing would still be happening had Trump been reelected because he was making deals with terrorists, not Afghanistan's government, to pull our people out in May. Is it uncomfortable to think he also planned (though later canceled) to have them come to the U.S. and meet at Camp David?

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51689443

Afghan conflict: US and Taliban sign deal to end 18-year war

29 February 2020

The US and the Taliban have signed an "agreement for bringing peace" to Afghanistan after more than 18 years of conflict.

The US and Nato allies have agreed to withdraw all troops within 14 months if the militants uphold the deal.

President Trump said it had been a "long and hard journey" in Afghanistan. "It's time after all these years to bring our people back home," he said.

Talks between the Afghan government and the Taliban are due to follow.

Under the agreement, the militants also agreed not to allow al-Qaeda or any other extremist group to operate in the areas they control.

Speaking at the White House, Mr Trump said the Taliban had been trying to reach an agreement with the US for a long time.

He said US troops had been killing terrorists in Afghanistan "by the thousands" and now it was "time for someone else to do that work and it will be the Taliban and it could be surrounding countries".

"I really believe the Taliban wants to do something to show we're not all wasting time," Mr Trump added. "If bad things happen, we'll go back with a force like no-one's ever seen."

Within the first 135 days of the deal the US will reduce its forces in Afghanistan to 8,600, with allies also drawing down their forces proportionately.

The move would allow US President Donald Trump to show that he has brought troops home ahead of the US presidential election in November.

The deal also provides for a prisoner swap. Some 5,000 Taliban prisoners and 1,000 Afghan security force prisoners would be exchanged by 10 March, when talks between the Taliban and the Afghan government are due to start.

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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tr...der-2020-03-03

“We had a very good conversation with the leader of the Taliban today, and they’re looking to get this ended, and we’re looking to get it ended. I think we all have a very common interest,” Trump said. “We had, actually, a very good talk with the leader of the Taliban.”

“The relationship is very good that I have with the mullah,” Trump said. “We had a good long conversation today and, you know, they want to cease the violence. They’d like to cease violence also.”
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN20N0YU

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday said he would be personally meeting leaders of the Taliban in the near future and rejected criticism of a deal that the United States signed with the insurgents in Afghanistan.
Trump calls off secret Camp David meeting with Taliban, Afghan leaders

The Taliban on Trump: "We hope he will win the election" and withdraw U.S. troops

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Originally Posted by 1987 View Post
Own it, eat it.
Eat your own words and try not to choke on them.



What has happened is terrible, and I guess we probably shouldn't have decided to leave without ensuring that darn Afghanistan could actually stand in their own feet, but if they never would and were unable to even after 20 years of help... then what? Your tax dollars keep going there forever because the place can't succeeded on its own? When did the Right stop chanting "America first"? Even if we didn't leave, the Taliban would no doubt have still flipped out over then breaking the promise they had with Trump.

Get the good people out and then let the rest of the world play target practice and end the Taliban. ISIS is elsewhere, I think? How do we convince them to go there, too...
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