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Old 08-28-2021, 10:27 AM   #4
IndigoErth
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More of his ilk? You seem to be either missing or ignoring that towing a party line wasn't a priority for him because he used the party as a useful idiot for his own benefit. Throwing out bait expecting people to bite so he can gain support.

One of the most blatantly transparent pandering moments had to be when he decided to go take pictures holding up a bible, like the theists, esp the Evangelicals, were supposed to be impressed if he waves those pictures in front of them and stay in line offering their support.

If he was really going against party loyalties, then he aught to have been working with some Dems at least once in a while, trying to push for greater bipartisanship, but he didn't. He only pushed the theme that they were enemies.


Bucking loyalties and maybe leaning more into unaffiliated moderates who want to work for the nation, not a party, would be great. But it's no good to us as a nation if people can't see the difference between doing that and, like Trump, just using a party for their own interests.

Forgoing loyalties should not mean electing people who carry on about space lasers while punishing people who themselves bucked their own party by criticizing Trump despite the backlash they knew they'd get for it.


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Originally Posted by Sumac View Post
It not always was like that. From what I've understood for most of the time, except for the civil war, people were able "agree to disagree" in US.

And this is what made US different from many other countries, and arguably it was its greatest strength, until recently, when Left leaning elites...
It's definitely not a recent shift, it has been BS boiling under the surface for decades, and no, pointing at the Left and saying "they did it and they do these meanie things" is no different than how the Right has always treated the Left and aren't justified in it either.
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