[Leo656]

The adoption/foster care system is woefully inadequate, many kids never get taken into a proper home because the people who can afford to adopt only want perfectly healthy and white babies, which most kids put into the system are not - many kids put into the system are non-white and among them a lot of those have physical or mental ailments which make them "unappealing" to potential adopters. Tons of kids never get taken in and just age out of the system, growing up disillusioned and bitter.

Also, tons of kids who get put into foster homes are physically and sexually abused. There's no promise whatsoever that a kid being fostered or adopted is going to be properly taken care of, people scam the system all the time.

People who say "Just put the kid up so someone else can take care of it" are incredibly over-simplifying the situation. Most of those kids end up having sh*t lives, too. They become overburden on a society that's already overflowing, and the sad part is, they're aware of it, and they don't fully ever get over it even if they manage to avoid being abused.

Condoms fail, birth control fails, "just don't f*ck" isn't realistic. Also, the lives of the Already Existing should always trump the potential/theoretical lives of "the unborn". If having a kid is going to ruin your life - which is often the case - then people need options so as to not have the kid. The lives of the parents AND child are all forfeit when people who can't properly care for kids are "forced" to have them. The parents end up hating/resenting the kid and the kid grows up in an environment where they're fully aware how unwanted they are. That's no good for anyone.

Making a woman carry the baby of the person who raped her is just cruelty beyond the pale. NOTHING good will ever come from that situation. Imagine if you were a kid and somehow found out you were a Rape Baby? Imagine if that information got out, knowing how cruel kids are to other kids just in general? Jesus.

I'm not saying this to be a dick to anyone, but in my experience the people who are the most gung-ho about "Never Abort, never EVER" are people who are never going to be in any position to make such a choice, either for themselves or someone else. Many of the women I know have had at least one, even the ones who already had kids - in their case the feeling was that they already had enough/too many kids - and at the end of the day, Sh*t Happens. That's real life. People get lung cancer without ever smoking, and sometimes people get pregnant while still taking every precaution.

Once again, I will forever and always prioritize the life (and quality of life) of the Existing Human Beings over that of the Hypothetical Unborn.

And as Carlin always pointed out, the "pro-life" stance is pretty hypocritical anyways considering how they ONLY care about forcing women who don't want to get pregnant to carry and give birth to a baby they don't want/can't care for; once that baby is born, those "pro-life" people couldn't care less if it dies, grows up abused, or poor, or in a broken home, none of that; once the kid is out of the womb, it's "Good luck, buddy!" Their sanctimony stops at the birthing stage; before that, they care VERY much what happens to the kid and the mother, but afterwards everybody's on their own. Seems shady, to me. OR, again as Carlin put it, "They're not so much Pro-Life as Anti-Women; so many of these 'pro-life' people go around killing doctors for performing abortions that the whole thing just seems like empty rhetoric."

Pragmatically, at this stage of the game having abortions makes MORE sense than having kids does, for most people. If every couple whose condom broke or whose antibiotic screwed up their birth control or whatever were forced to carry the kid, birth the kid, and then "just give it up for adoption" into an already overburdened system, the entire state of things would be even sh*ttier than it is. Especially considering the pandemic and subsequent economic collapse which will take a decade or more to recover from. Who the f*ck would dump a kid on the world NOW? That seems recklessly irresponsible.

It's an argument that I guess won't go away - although I'm a little bit surprised that it's even still a conversation, but then I guess Texas Gonna Texas - but as I've said, the ones with the strongest "Pro-Life" stance are generally people who likely won't ever have to deal with the situation themselves.

In the case of the anti-abortion politicians, the most absurdly comical thing is how often their little blonde Perfect Christian daughters (or their wives) end up getting knocked up, and in turn they very quietly pay for them to get an abortion to "take care of the problem". Who even listens to those people, and why?

If Texas Governor Greg Abbott's daughter ever got pregnant by a black guy, mark my f*cking words he'd be on the phone with an abortion clinic so fast you wouldn't see more than a blur. Let's just all be real about THAT.